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http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/11/29/obama_victory_margin_grows.htmlNovember 29, 2012
Obama Victory Margin Grows
As the votes keep coming in, David Wasserman notes President Obama's national lead over Mitt Romney is now 50.9% to 47.4%.
First Read: "That's a bigger (and more decisive) margin that Bush's victory over John Kerry in 2004 (which was Bush 50.7% and Kerry 48.2%). What's more, the president's lead has grown to close to 3 points in Ohio, 4 points in Virginia and 6 points in Colorado. One doesn't win Colorado by six points without winning swing voters; there isn't a big-enough Democratic base to make that argument."
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)it was a nailbiter...a horse race....neck-n-neck!!!!!!
Tarheel_Dem
(31,233 posts)memes, and their colleagues inside their bubble spread the b.s. far & wide. They did everything in their power to hand this election to Mitt Romney, but thank goodness, we weren't fooled by them.
RickFromMN
(478 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)The GOP throwing Grover under the bus when they all want to do the same thing he did is a diversion from who and what the GOP is.
The GOP is not a political party. It is a front operation for predatory corporations to destroy all democratic institutions that could regulate them to protect the people from harm. They are a carnival shell game to keep the public's eyes off of their purpose, to take over infrastructure and reduce us to third world status in education, healthcare, labor and human rights, and destroy the environment for them.
The networks colluded to create the two public sides of the deception, the Ron Paul - Libertarian - Patriot phenomena (so mistreated, yet still GOP?) and the Randian - Chickenhawk - Tea Party KKK (for the others side of the GOP brand) they will certainly do it again.
They've been beating the GOP drum for the alleged rioting over an anti-Muslim (with GOP ties), the deaths in Benghazi (while leaving out the GOP defunding embassy security and privatizing), sex scandals like Patraeus between Republicans to blame on a Democratic POTUS (oh, really?), the fiscal cliff (engineered by the GOP), and a half dozen other things.
Watch these corporate shills only to gauge the newest lie that they have agreed to put out to enrage the conservative haters, and demoralize those working against this corrupt status quo. They have never reported anything that Obama has done for the good, and they never will. And they can't reform, because they are owned by the groups that sought to defeat us.
xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)to give them even more media control.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)we have to be the ones to wise up. The lemmings will continue to belive the dreckt they serve up to divide us, both the left and the right. They fully intend to continue to enrage, demoralize and distort to serve their owners.
One has to look a step ahead, to the intention and result of what they are selling, since it is a sales job. If they preach something that simultaneously enrages the right into voting, and demoralizes the left, who wins the election?
The right benefits from everything they sell, either not voting by scandalizing Democratic elected officials, demeaning our progressives, never telling our side of it. They have not pushed anything to encourage the left to vote for changing the system in twenty years or more.
The 'all parties are the same - corporate theme' doesn't affect the GOP since they rebrand themselves with every cycle and they believe corporations should own everything. Meanwhile the Democrats are just the big tent that allows everything, and they divide us on whatever they know will work.
And work it does, even if it's not the truth. They never report the work of our progressives, and then when we post it here online people don't believe it because it's not part of the media ocean we live in. We'd better get smart, involved and keep to our principles, from the basics to the highest.
Z_California
(650 posts)Geez, glad it wasn't close.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)they still aren't finished?
heaven05
(18,124 posts)hope he and his advisers remember these numbers when dealing with the party of traitors.
rivegauche
(601 posts)That is the most perfect karma EVER.
pipewrench
(194 posts)numeric justice served.....
Botany
(70,501 posts)n/t
Tarheel_Dem
(31,233 posts)in AZ? Wasn't there some shady stuff there re: whether or not to count them?
Ligyron
(7,629 posts)I wonder what happened or IS happening?
freshwest
(53,661 posts)They did, however, send good progressives to D.C. In case anyone missed it, California and Oregon gave the Democrats the super majorities in their state legislatures. In CA, this will make a big difference after decades of GOP sabotaging the budget there.
And of all things wild and wonderful, in spite of voter suppression and Tom Delay's gerrymandering and then some, Texas turned their state legislature to a Democratic super majority. The Democrats had a better showing with Sadler against the favored Tea Party Cruz for Senate, despite the almost complete media blackout on Sadler in Texas.
Our DUer W8liftinglady was relentless writing to the newspapers who refused to print one word about the fact the Democrats were running a candidate against the GOP for Hutchinson's Senate seat.
Despite blatant attempts to thwart the voters, Washington stayed Democratic in the governors and federal races, but still suffers under GOP in the state legislature, forcing many of the Democrats to compromise. National victories are made within the states, although they seldom hit national media.
Ligyron
(7,629 posts)Yeah, and can you imagine what will happen if Texas actually becomes more and more Democratic as predicted? ... and with their electoral votes added to Cali and NY in the Presidential Races?
HA!
The future is looking hopeful.
2ndAmForComputers
(3,527 posts)SomeGuyInEagan
(1,515 posts)... according to James Carville.
Sixty-six percent of the 18-to-24 year-olds voted for Obama (http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/july-dec12/youth_11-26.html). We owe them a big thank you.
TheBlackAdder
(28,188 posts)It was a gradual transition from Republican to Independent to Democrat.
Heck, Ronald Reagan would be probably a Democrat by today's standards!
We grew up as a true Eisenhower Republican family.. which means we are now Democrats.
SomeGuyInEagan
(1,515 posts)And Reagan was a Democrat until GE bought him.
Filibuster Harry
(666 posts)republican, who I forget his name, mentioned a tight election with Obama winning 51 - 49. What in the hell is this guy talking about? Delusional.
brooklynite
(94,513 posts)...without thinking that the margins are increasing in States where Republicans run the Government.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)2ndAmForComputers
(3,527 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)So I guess President Obama won this "decisively." Right?
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Election night, it was still quite comforting to watch a solid lead all night.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)To many tiny state districts with local republican control.
Satirist
(1 post)Assertions the United States of America was headed back to a "medieval theocracy" proved unfounded as President Obama was re-elected on Tuesday November 6.
A raft of pundits had predicted victory for a Republican platform that included "keepinge ye wymmen in ye kitchen", "ye new-fangled science is nothinge but sorcerie" and "keep oute ye barbarian hordes".
"We are at a complete loss to explain it," said Republican Wytchfinder-General Karl Rove. "We were convinced the voters would be moving forward with us to address the problems of the year of our lord 1412."
Unfortunately for the losing side, American voters decided that the USA was in line with all the other modern liberal democracies in Europe, Australia and everywhere else around the world in 2012.