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babylonsister

(171,057 posts)
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:56 AM Nov 2012

Obama Victory Margin Grows

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/11/29/obama_victory_margin_grows.html



November 29, 2012

Obama Victory Margin Grows

As the votes keep coming in, David Wasserman notes President Obama's national lead over Mitt Romney is now 50.9% to 47.4%.

First Read: "That's a bigger (and more decisive) margin that Bush's victory over John Kerry in 2004 (which was Bush 50.7% and Kerry 48.2%). What's more, the president's lead has grown to close to 3 points in Ohio, 4 points in Virginia and 6 points in Colorado. One doesn't win Colorado by six points without winning swing voters; there isn't a big-enough Democratic base to make that argument."
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Obama Victory Margin Grows (Original Post) babylonsister Nov 2012 OP
I guess all those freeloading 47% voted for Romney instead of Obama. WI_DEM Nov 2012 #1
But....but....it was a SQUEAKER! And Obama wasn't gonna win the POPULAR vote....and, and... MADem Nov 2012 #2
Ditto! What passes for media, in this country, is just pathetic. They sit around and make up..... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #6
But they were brainwashing us too! Some of us were a little worried even though we had high hopes. RickFromMN Nov 2012 #10
They were so obviously in Mitt's camp, all of them! I hope no one will be fooled by them again as... freshwest Nov 2012 #11
And the FCC is poised xxqqqzme Nov 2012 #16
Yup. After Michael Powell and his 'The Free Market IS My GOD!' while we went to the FCC hearings, freshwest Nov 2012 #18
Votes are STILL being counted? Z_California Nov 2012 #3
Isn't it fucking ridiculous a month after davidpdx Dec 2012 #32
I heaven05 Nov 2012 #4
God how I LOVE that Willard got 47%. rivegauche Nov 2012 #5
So would I rivegauche pipewrench Nov 2012 #7
we have 200,000 provisional ballots in OH and 80% + will be D. Botany Nov 2012 #8
200k ballots? By the way, do you know if they ever started counting provisionals in Maricopa Cty, Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #12
That's right Ligyron Nov 2012 #15
I went to the AZ group and Kali let me know that Flake won, and I haven't got an answer about 'Joe.' freshwest Nov 2012 #20
Thanks for that Ligyron Dec 2012 #28
Oy! What about downticket races? 2ndAmForComputers Nov 2012 #21
How you vote at 24 is a good indicator of how you will at 54 ... SomeGuyInEagan Nov 2012 #9
Most of my family voted Republican until their thirties, then they started to gradually switch. TheBlackAdder Nov 2012 #14
Heh ... we owe your family as well. SomeGuyInEagan Nov 2012 #23
47% is a good number for Mitt. I was watching something the other night on CNN and this Filibuster Harry Nov 2012 #13
Has anyone noticed that our FRiends keep alleging "voter fraud" every time the count goes up... brooklynite Nov 2012 #17
Please don't let it go down in the 46% range ... 47% is so ... aptly Mitt-prescient. libdem4life Nov 2012 #19
As long as it's more than 46.5% it's OK. We'll round it up. 2ndAmForComputers Nov 2012 #22
And remember how the Rs said Bush won "decisively" in 04 treestar Nov 2012 #24
Wow, and I was worried about Colorado ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2012 #25
Romney's campaign actually thought they had Colorado locked up. Drunken Irishman Nov 2012 #26
It took a nice turn towards O at the end after some shaky weeks ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2012 #27
think it should have been 25% romney and squeekers like bachman should have lost. Sunlei Dec 2012 #29
USA "is modern liberal democracy" shocker Satirist Dec 2012 #30
Welcome to DU! hrmjustin Dec 2012 #31

MADem

(135,425 posts)
2. But....but....it was a SQUEAKER! And Obama wasn't gonna win the POPULAR vote....and, and...
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:00 PM
Nov 2012

it was a nailbiter...a horse race....neck-n-neck!!!!!!

Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
6. Ditto! What passes for media, in this country, is just pathetic. They sit around and make up.....
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:36 PM
Nov 2012

memes, and their colleagues inside their bubble spread the b.s. far & wide. They did everything in their power to hand this election to Mitt Romney, but thank goodness, we weren't fooled by them.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
11. They were so obviously in Mitt's camp, all of them! I hope no one will be fooled by them again as...
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:25 PM
Nov 2012
they'll do anything they can to undermine Obama's second administration as they did the first, to give the mid-terms to the GOP and to build up to 2016.

The GOP throwing Grover under the bus when they all want to do the same thing he did is a diversion from who and what the GOP is.

The GOP is not a political party. It is a front operation for predatory corporations to destroy all democratic institutions that could regulate them to protect the people from harm. They are a carnival shell game to keep the public's eyes off of their purpose, to take over infrastructure and reduce us to third world status in education, healthcare, labor and human rights, and destroy the environment for them.

The networks colluded to create the two public sides of the deception, the Ron Paul - Libertarian - Patriot phenomena (so mistreated, yet still GOP?) and the Randian - Chickenhawk - Tea Party KKK (for the others side of the GOP brand) they will certainly do it again.

They've been beating the GOP drum for the alleged rioting over an anti-Muslim (with GOP ties), the deaths in Benghazi (while leaving out the GOP defunding embassy security and privatizing), sex scandals like Patraeus between Republicans to blame on a Democratic POTUS (oh, really?), the fiscal cliff (engineered by the GOP), and a half dozen other things.

Watch these corporate shills only to gauge the newest lie that they have agreed to put out to enrage the conservative haters, and demoralize those working against this corrupt status quo. They have never reported anything that Obama has done for the good, and they never will. And they can't reform, because they are owned by the groups that sought to defeat us.


freshwest

(53,661 posts)
18. Yup. After Michael Powell and his 'The Free Market IS My GOD!' while we went to the FCC hearings,
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 03:15 PM
Nov 2012

we have to be the ones to wise up. The lemmings will continue to belive the dreckt they serve up to divide us, both the left and the right. They fully intend to continue to enrage, demoralize and distort to serve their owners.

One has to look a step ahead, to the intention and result of what they are selling, since it is a sales job. If they preach something that simultaneously enrages the right into voting, and demoralizes the left, who wins the election?

The right benefits from everything they sell, either not voting by scandalizing Democratic elected officials, demeaning our progressives, never telling our side of it. They have not pushed anything to encourage the left to vote for changing the system in twenty years or more.

The 'all parties are the same - corporate theme' doesn't affect the GOP since they rebrand themselves with every cycle and they believe corporations should own everything. Meanwhile the Democrats are just the big tent that allows everything, and they divide us on whatever they know will work.

And work it does, even if it's not the truth. They never report the work of our progressives, and then when we post it here online people don't believe it because it's not part of the media ocean we live in. We'd better get smart, involved and keep to our principles, from the basics to the highest.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
12. 200k ballots? By the way, do you know if they ever started counting provisionals in Maricopa Cty,
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:40 PM
Nov 2012

in AZ? Wasn't there some shady stuff there re: whether or not to count them?

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
20. I went to the AZ group and Kali let me know that Flake won, and I haven't got an answer about 'Joe.'
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 04:30 PM
Nov 2012

They did, however, send good progressives to D.C. In case anyone missed it, California and Oregon gave the Democrats the super majorities in their state legislatures. In CA, this will make a big difference after decades of GOP sabotaging the budget there.

And of all things wild and wonderful, in spite of voter suppression and Tom Delay's gerrymandering and then some, Texas turned their state legislature to a Democratic super majority. The Democrats had a better showing with Sadler against the favored Tea Party Cruz for Senate, despite the almost complete media blackout on Sadler in Texas.

Our DUer W8liftinglady was relentless writing to the newspapers who refused to print one word about the fact the Democrats were running a candidate against the GOP for Hutchinson's Senate seat.

Despite blatant attempts to thwart the voters, Washington stayed Democratic in the governors and federal races, but still suffers under GOP in the state legislature, forcing many of the Democrats to compromise. National victories are made within the states, although they seldom hit national media.


Ligyron

(7,629 posts)
28. Thanks for that
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:34 PM
Dec 2012

Yeah, and can you imagine what will happen if Texas actually becomes more and more Democratic as predicted? ... and with their electoral votes added to Cali and NY in the Presidential Races?

HA!

The future is looking hopeful.

SomeGuyInEagan

(1,515 posts)
9. How you vote at 24 is a good indicator of how you will at 54 ...
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:06 PM
Nov 2012

... according to James Carville.

Sixty-six percent of the 18-to-24 year-olds voted for Obama (http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/july-dec12/youth_11-26.html). We owe them a big thank you.

TheBlackAdder

(28,188 posts)
14. Most of my family voted Republican until their thirties, then they started to gradually switch.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:54 PM
Nov 2012

It was a gradual transition from Republican to Independent to Democrat.

Heck, Ronald Reagan would be probably a Democrat by today's standards!

We grew up as a true Eisenhower Republican family.. which means we are now Democrats.

Filibuster Harry

(666 posts)
13. 47% is a good number for Mitt. I was watching something the other night on CNN and this
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:48 PM
Nov 2012

republican, who I forget his name, mentioned a tight election with Obama winning 51 - 49. What in the hell is this guy talking about? Delusional.

brooklynite

(94,513 posts)
17. Has anyone noticed that our FRiends keep alleging "voter fraud" every time the count goes up...
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 03:06 PM
Nov 2012

...without thinking that the margins are increasing in States where Republicans run the Government.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
24. And remember how the Rs said Bush won "decisively" in 04
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 07:13 PM
Nov 2012

So I guess President Obama won this "decisively." Right?

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
27. It took a nice turn towards O at the end after some shaky weeks
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 07:56 PM
Nov 2012

Election night, it was still quite comforting to watch a solid lead all night.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
29. think it should have been 25% romney and squeekers like bachman should have lost.
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:48 PM
Dec 2012

To many tiny state districts with local republican control.

Satirist

(1 post)
30. USA "is modern liberal democracy" shocker
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:58 PM
Dec 2012

Assertions the United States of America was headed back to a "medieval theocracy" proved unfounded as President Obama was re-elected on Tuesday November 6.

A raft of pundits had predicted victory for a Republican platform that included "keepinge ye wymmen in ye kitchen", "ye new-fangled science is nothinge but sorcerie" and "keep oute ye barbarian hordes".

"We are at a complete loss to explain it," said Republican Wytchfinder-General Karl Rove. "We were convinced the voters would be moving forward with us to address the problems of the year of our lord 1412."

Unfortunately for the losing side, American voters decided that the USA was in line with all the other modern liberal democracies in Europe, Australia and everywhere else around the world in 2012.

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