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Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:06 PM

If the GOP has finally lost Susan, they will never catch up

Beginning back in the 80's, I had a years-long affair with a woman named Susan.

Susan was a dream come true - beautiful, smart and funny. We had like tastes in pretty much everything - music, wine, fast cars, cuisine, you name it. Susan was classic Fort Worth, Texas.

But she was a Republican, through and through.

Susan worshipped St Ronnie, forgave Iran-Contra, and even backed GHWB.

She listened to LimpBo and watched Faux (not when I was around, however).

The woman thought W was going to save the world, early on, but wavered at the end.

I moved on and had only spoken to her once in the past four years.

She called me last week from SFO, on her way to Yosemite. Asked if she could stop by, drink some wine and play some music.

So I said, "Sure".

Long story short, the night wore on and we were talking about our respective situations.

She told me she has been dating a Judge in Austin, and then she dropped The Bomb.

"I just found out that son-of-a-bitch has been accepting money from Tom DeLay and Bob Perry. I told him that he had a choice - give back the money or get out of my life."

She then went on about the Republican War on Women and the Middle Class. She was livid about voter suppression, the pathologically dishonest Romney campaign, and on and on. Ironically, she had few misgivings about the Judge's political affiliation but her problem was with his supporters who are helping to fund everything else she was pissed about.

She did, after all, put up with me for all those years.

Susan has money and she has a voice.

If the 'pubs have lost the Susans in their race to the bottom, the Party may never recover.

Welcome Home, Suze.



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Reply If the GOP has finally lost Susan, they will never catch up (Original post)
DollarBillHines Nov 2012 OP
louis-t Nov 2012 #1
CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2012 #2
DollarBillHines Nov 2012 #27
BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #3
DollarBillHines Nov 2012 #4
BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #24
struggle4progress Nov 2012 #5
mnhtnbb Nov 2012 #13
gateley Nov 2012 #6
alphafemale Nov 2012 #7
DollarBillHines Nov 2012 #10
busterbrown Nov 2012 #8
trof Nov 2012 #9
BlueStreak Nov 2012 #11
leftlibdem420 Nov 2012 #15
BlueStreak Nov 2012 #19
lunatica Nov 2012 #12
Gman Nov 2012 #14
alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #16
behindenemylins Nov 2012 #17
DollarBillHines Nov 2012 #18
Dan Nov 2012 #21
DollarBillHines Nov 2012 #22
aquart Nov 2012 #25
DollarBillHines Nov 2012 #28
LiberalFighter Nov 2012 #20
behindenemylins Nov 2012 #23
DollarBillHines Nov 2012 #26
no_hypocrisy Nov 2012 #29
leftupnorth Nov 2012 #30
bloodbath Nov 2012 #31
DollarBillHines Nov 2012 #33
hrmjustin Nov 2012 #34
Rain Mcloud Nov 2012 #32

Response to DollarBillHines (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:09 PM

1. She sounds like a keeper.

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Response to DollarBillHines (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:13 PM

2. Well said, my dear DollarBillHines!

I agree with the first poster: She sounds like a keeper.

She is one very smart, classy lady.

Jus' sayin'......

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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 02:16 AM

27. Yep, Peggy....

It was interesting...

Our kitchen...

Imagine Brenda Starr vs Miss Milwaukee..

Damn, Peg...

Redstone would have laughed his ass off

DBH

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Response to DollarBillHines (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:14 PM

3. Susan sounds beautiful inside and out.

Hold on tightly, DBH! She's golden!

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:21 PM

4. She's golden, alright

So is her hair, but I intentionally didn't put that in the OP so as note to inflame the Overly Sensitive.

I swear, the woman hasn't aged in 20-something years. She has some old pics of us in which I look like I could be my own son.

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Response to DollarBillHines (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:51 PM

24. Like I said, beautiful inside and out.

And I seriously doubt your self-criticism, but it does reflect your genuine modesty, and that, too, is beautiful. I hope she knows a good thing when she sees it and grabs onto you as tightly as you want to grab on to her.

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Response to DollarBillHines (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:47 PM

5. Wakin up one lil Suzie at a time

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 06:14 PM

13. +1

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Response to DollarBillHines (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:50 PM

6. You gotta know your influence over the years had a part in this -- niggling in the back of her mind.



May she go forth and spread the truth, Amen.

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Response to DollarBillHines (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:54 PM

7. So sounds like she is giving all the signals of rekindling your romance

Good luck.

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Response to alphafemale (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 05:28 PM

10. G U...

Geographically Undesirable.

It's not the flight time, but the drive to the airport that I deplore.

Otherwise.....

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Response to DollarBillHines (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:56 PM

8. Keep running Sue........

Love Dion......

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Response to DollarBillHines (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 05:18 PM

9. GO SUSAN!

YEAH!

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Response to DollarBillHines (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 05:34 PM

11. Here's something the Left has not understood

The right wing is relentless. They tun into Limbaugh every day. The brainwashing never, ever stops.

We on the left tend to think in terms of discrete campaigns. We mistakenly assume that facts are facts and they speak for themselves, so there is no reason to be campaigning all the time.

We have to change that. We have to be working with every "Susan" out there every day from now on. We got across to 5 million "middle" voters this time. Next time, we need to start with all the "Susans" on our side rather than waiting until the final months to try to win them over.

It isn't about the candidate (Romney in this case). It is about the ideology. It doesn't matter who they prop up at the podium the next time. We have to continue educating people. We can't be dicks about it. But we can be firm, factual, and persistent.

I have a little story that is similar to Susan. A colleague is heavily involved in education -- heading an organization that represents a class of educators. It is natural that he should have a liberal perspective. But in fact, he has been an outspoken Republican as long as I have known him. I'm sure it was a case that he grew up that way and he had never found a reason to question things. After all, we have had some rather dubious characters on our side from time to time. It is always easy for a Republican to rationalize their position by saying, ""Look at that William Jefferson taking all those bribes."

Over the past couple of years, we have engaged in factual discussions an things that directly affected his organization's mission. He has made the full transition now. I can't guarantee he will always vote for the Democrat, but I know he is no longer "under the spell" and that is all we can ask.

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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 06:23 PM

15. It starts in Texas.

 

The only things keeping Texas red are gerrymandering and Democrats writing off.

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Response to leftlibdem420 (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 07:18 PM

19. The power of our voice

There was an amazing story in Indiana this election. it was mostly lost because with this one exception, the election results were dismal here, with the GOP taking a super-majority in the legislature. Thanks, Team Obama for looking out for number one and not pushing for other Democrats. That really sucks.

But despite no help from anywhere, we got one huge win. We had had this complete idiot for Superintendent of Public Instruction, Tony Bennett ("I left my brains in San Francisco ...") This guy has been pushing vouchers and charters like crazy. It was a mission to wreck the largest public districts in the state (Indianapolis, Gary, Ft. Wayne.)

He was opposed in this election by a school librarian named Glenda Ritz. Long story short, she seemingly came from out of nowhere and kicked Bennett's ass by a wide margin -- it wasn't close.
http://www.indystar.com/viewart/20121106/NEWS0502/311060012/Indiana-election-2012-Tony-Bennett-loses-re-election-bid-school-superintendent-challenger-Glenda-Ritz

It is still an uphill battle turning around the damage the these right-wingers have done to public education, especially considering that the legislature is even more Republican after this election. But it is a first step. And the lesson in all of this is that we have to organize -- continuously. Ritz had a built-in constituency of virtually all public teachers in the state. This was not just about their jobs, but that was certainly a big part of it. Simply stated, Bennett's big plan is to privatize schools, sucking public money out of the public districts, giving that money to for-profit operators who don't have to meet the same educational standards and are given a Bonanza of resources, such as rent-and-maintenance-free buildings. Meanwhile the corpses of the public districts are kept alive for all the most difficult, undesirable students. The for-profit schools can have 50% of their staff without any teaching credentials -- in other words at or near minimum wage. But who needs teachers anyway? We will just put students in front of computers all day long and then test them on how much they have memorized. That is the right-wing formula for "education" in the 21st century.

It took a campaign to bring these assholes down. We have to sustain these efforts across the board all the time.

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Here is very good article that talks about what is possible
http://stateimpact.npr.org/indiana/2012/11/07/what-glenda-ritzs-victory-over-tony-bennett-means-for-indiana-schools/

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I don't know if it is true, but people I know who are well connected with the Indiana education establishment say that Bennett thought he had the inside track to become Mitt Romney's Secretary of Education.

Talk about a rude wake-up call. "Mr. Bennett, I have some bad news and some worse news. The bad news is that you aren't going to be in Romney's cabinet. The worse news is that you are out of a job altogether."

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Response to DollarBillHines (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 05:42 PM

12. Lot's of women learn better after they're abused

I know. The first thing you learn is that it can definitely happen to you. It changes you.

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Response to DollarBillHines (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 06:18 PM

14. There will always be a need for a party that appeals to Susan

Just because she is disenchanted with the current makeup if the GOP doesn't mean she's now a liberal. But, she's not stupid either. It's not that people like her will always vote for Democrats going forward. But as long as we can get 'emthat's great because there will be another iteration of the GOP, possibly at done point under a different name, that will do and say the right things but will have totally different motives just like now. And people will buy it, for a while. It likely will be a different speil, based on focus groups. But that party will be anything but sincere.

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Response to DollarBillHines (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 06:39 PM

16. You don't win this election by 4 million plus votes without pulling a lot of Republicans

A lot.

The big story of the election - yet to be written - will be how many women went for the President, regardless of party.

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Response to DollarBillHines (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 06:50 PM

17. Careful there Dollar...

A possibly paranoid perspective:

Be careful. Old flames are notorious for severely compromising someone's intuition - we've all been there. Compound that with her being a Republican before, it could be just a ruse for an ulterior motive at your expense. Haven't met a Republican yet - current or former - that doesn't have some kind of tap dance routine.

Merely pointing out the possibilities for a similarly-minded individual and nothing more.

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Response to behindenemylins (Reply #17)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 07:11 PM

18. She was pretty drunk when she said it.

Susan plays it pretty close to the vest, and probably wouldn't have said it if she was sober.

She wouldn't have wanted to give me the pleasure. But she will probably say it to any 'pub friends she has

We'll talk about it more when she gets back from Yosemite.

The cool thing is that I have voice-activated recorders in my office and in our kitchen (where most of the truly creative conversations take place). I record everything. I'll probably just play it back for her, right out of the blue.

But I certainly get your perspective on this.

I have had some weird conversations with some of my 'pub friends (for the first time in my life, I actually have some). Mostly, they seem to be on some sort of psychotropic drug. It's as if nothing of note has happened in the past couple of weeks.

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Response to DollarBillHines (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:00 PM

21. if she is not aware that you were recording her...

this is probably something that I would keep private... she might not perceive your recording of her in the same way that you might have intended...

She sounds like a keeper...

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Response to Dan (Reply #21)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:58 PM

22. I record EVERYTHING and every one I know knows it

keeper, deluxe

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Response to DollarBillHines (Reply #22)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 01:54 AM

25. Isn't storage a problem?

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Response to aquart (Reply #25)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 02:48 AM

28. Not at all

I have these little Sony sticks (maybe 3 1/4" by 1 3/8") that will record 9 hours of everything.

They are great for live music, too.

Stereo, as well...

Great little tools
DBH

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Response to DollarBillHines (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:11 PM

20. We need to open the eyes of more of them and keep them open.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:38 PM

23. Good call

Agreed.

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Response to behindenemylins (Reply #23)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 02:00 AM

26. There are millions of them

Educated, cool ladies.

I was blown away.

If Susan is gone, they are screwn.. (freeper speelin)

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Response to DollarBillHines (Original post)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 08:11 AM

29. I love Susan!

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Response to DollarBillHines (Original post)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 09:35 AM

30. Excellent! Admittedly I was a bit disappointed this didn't turn into

a "Dear Penthouse" story, though...

:lol:

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Response to DollarBillHines (Original post)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 11:43 AM

31. Can't Decide if it's the GOP's boldness or Miscalculation

I'm still trying to figure if the GOP's strategy in this 2012 campaign was to finally show their true objectives (real selves) or was it accidental that they revealed too much or they simply decided they did not need Susan win.

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Response to bloodbath (Reply #31)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 01:28 PM

33. Welcometo DU!

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Response to bloodbath (Reply #31)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 03:40 PM

34. Welcome to DU!

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Response to DollarBillHines (Original post)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 11:54 AM

32. Warning to Republicans:

 

Don't mess with the U.S.!

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