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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCitiizen Pain: After he loses the election, Donald Trump will enter a world of hurt (TNR)
From Jeet Heer, a senior editor at The New Republic:
https://newrepublic.com/article/137864/donald-trump-citizen-pain
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Yet Trump TV, as The New Yorkers Ryan Lizza and Talking Points Memos Josh Marshall have persuasively argued, seems like a pipe dream. Its prohibitively expensive to start a cable network, the TV news market is already crowded, and ventures to create celebrity-centered channels (including efforts by famous figures as various as Oprah, Sarah Palin, and Glenn Beck) have all struggled or failed. Trump TV might exist as some sort of internet platform, but thats unlikely to secure either the attention or financial success that Trump craves.
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By running a bigoted campaign, and being revealed as a sex predator, Trump has become massively unpopular. This will hurt his social standing significantly. Its hard to imagine hell be treated with the same indulgence by the jet set that he has spent his life cultivating. To be sure, Trump will still have millions of fans among the Republican base, but in general they are not the sort of people Trump goes golfing with at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida. Trump used to relish hobnobbing with politicians like Bill Clinton and Mitt Romney, but they, and figures of their stature, now shun him. Moreover, many of his hangers-on, who were in for the ride as long as long as it promised publicity and money, will abandon him after he loses. Its unlikely that Kellyanne Conway will stick around long after November 8. Much of the Republican Party, which is keeping Trump at arms length as he implodes, will soon be treating him like a pariah.
Its not just a social loss that Trump will suffer, but also, perhaps even more sorely, a financial one. The Trump brand has been tarnished by his toxic mouth. Whereas his name was once associated with high-end (if garish) luxury items, now its synonymous with racism, xenophobia, and boasts about sexual assault. The Times reported Monday that the Trump brand is being hurt by a spontaneous boycott. Across the country, Michael Barbaro wrote, voters alarmed by the tenor of Mr. Trumps campaign and the emerging accounts of his personal conduct are engaging in spontaneous, unorganized and inconspicuous acts of protest that take direct aim at perhaps his most prized possession: his brand name. There may not be many new hotels or golf courses in Trumps future.
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Trump has repeatedly said that Citizen Kane, the classic film by Orson Welles, is his all-time favorite movie. There are obvious parallels between the movies titular anti-hero and Trump. Charles Foster Kane was the spoiled child of great wealth, who dabbled in populist politics and almost won high-office before being undone by a sex scandal. In his old age, Kane ends up friendless in his vast estate of Xanadu, taken care of by servants but cut off from humanity. Could Mar-a-Lago be the new Xanadu?
There is a key difference between Citizen Kane and Trumps story. Kane uses his wealth to build a media empire. If Trump ultimately decides not to do likewise, there will be only one way for him to escape Kanes sad, lonely fate. Trumps sole remaining path for being taken seriously after this election is to do the one thing that hes proven really good at: winning Republican primaries. The greatest danger of Trumps impending irrelevance, then, is that it could fuel his desire to run again in 2020.
Yet Trump TV, as The New Yorkers Ryan Lizza and Talking Points Memos Josh Marshall have persuasively argued, seems like a pipe dream. Its prohibitively expensive to start a cable network, the TV news market is already crowded, and ventures to create celebrity-centered channels (including efforts by famous figures as various as Oprah, Sarah Palin, and Glenn Beck) have all struggled or failed. Trump TV might exist as some sort of internet platform, but thats unlikely to secure either the attention or financial success that Trump craves.
-snip-
By running a bigoted campaign, and being revealed as a sex predator, Trump has become massively unpopular. This will hurt his social standing significantly. Its hard to imagine hell be treated with the same indulgence by the jet set that he has spent his life cultivating. To be sure, Trump will still have millions of fans among the Republican base, but in general they are not the sort of people Trump goes golfing with at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida. Trump used to relish hobnobbing with politicians like Bill Clinton and Mitt Romney, but they, and figures of their stature, now shun him. Moreover, many of his hangers-on, who were in for the ride as long as long as it promised publicity and money, will abandon him after he loses. Its unlikely that Kellyanne Conway will stick around long after November 8. Much of the Republican Party, which is keeping Trump at arms length as he implodes, will soon be treating him like a pariah.
Its not just a social loss that Trump will suffer, but also, perhaps even more sorely, a financial one. The Trump brand has been tarnished by his toxic mouth. Whereas his name was once associated with high-end (if garish) luxury items, now its synonymous with racism, xenophobia, and boasts about sexual assault. The Times reported Monday that the Trump brand is being hurt by a spontaneous boycott. Across the country, Michael Barbaro wrote, voters alarmed by the tenor of Mr. Trumps campaign and the emerging accounts of his personal conduct are engaging in spontaneous, unorganized and inconspicuous acts of protest that take direct aim at perhaps his most prized possession: his brand name. There may not be many new hotels or golf courses in Trumps future.
-snip-
Trump has repeatedly said that Citizen Kane, the classic film by Orson Welles, is his all-time favorite movie. There are obvious parallels between the movies titular anti-hero and Trump. Charles Foster Kane was the spoiled child of great wealth, who dabbled in populist politics and almost won high-office before being undone by a sex scandal. In his old age, Kane ends up friendless in his vast estate of Xanadu, taken care of by servants but cut off from humanity. Could Mar-a-Lago be the new Xanadu?
There is a key difference between Citizen Kane and Trumps story. Kane uses his wealth to build a media empire. If Trump ultimately decides not to do likewise, there will be only one way for him to escape Kanes sad, lonely fate. Trumps sole remaining path for being taken seriously after this election is to do the one thing that hes proven really good at: winning Republican primaries. The greatest danger of Trumps impending irrelevance, then, is that it could fuel his desire to run again in 2020.
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Citiizen Pain: After he loses the election, Donald Trump will enter a world of hurt (TNR) (Original Post)
highplainsdem
Oct 2016
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exboyfil
(17,863 posts)1. Alot of the support left for Trump
is based on anti-Hillary and no other choice (mostly because of Hillary appointing Supreme Court justices). Once he loses I bet at least half of his voter base will turn on him, and his popularity numbers among them will rival Clinton's.
Lots better candidates in four years to capture the Christian/white populist vote. I am going to watch Tom Cotton closely.
Trump's a flim flam man. I am sure he already has the next hustle cooking.
monmouth4
(9,697 posts)2. Cancellations are piling up at Mar-a-Lago as I type this. Galas galore going somewhere else, the
Breakers seems to be the new "place to be."