Chelsea Clinton suggest marijuana kills people

[Separation]

chelsea suggests pot kills people

Well, this isn't very promising.

During a recent appearance at Youngstown State University, Clinton—campaigning on behalf of her mother, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton—told a crowd of students that “anecdotally, we have lots of evidence” that cannabis is effective in treating epilepsy and stimulating the appetites of those undergoing chemotherapy treatment. But she then went on to say that there are still some public health concerns associated with pot consumption due to recent deaths in Colorado.

[JRLeft]

1. She's not helping.

The alcohol industry has lobbied against Marijuana legalization.

[Loki Liesmith]

2. meh

It's a drug and if its going to be used in treating anything, appropriate skepticism toward its effects should be presumed.

Treat it like any other med.

Oh, and find a better delivery mechanism. It smells like shit.

[Separation]

4. What, you mean like

Oil, lotions, capsules, vapor, edibles?

[KittyWampus]

17. Do all of those things deliver precise dosages? Your OP has a butchered quote

and no real context.

Anyone supporting pot as a therapeutic drug needs to understand the need for dosing properly.

I smoked pot for years in my twenties. So you can't pretend I'm some uptight anti-drug crusader.

[Separation]

22. Kind of hard to study it

When it's classified as a schedule 1 drug.

Look, I am a disabled vet. I suffer from PTSD, nightmares, a dibilatating injury which leaves me with almost zero quality of life. A few years ago I would start a day with a coin toss. Heads I give it another try, tails I go into the woods and don't come back out.

I live on disability through the VA and social security. Here is what I do know. If I try to use marijuana or try to grow it and get caught I will go to jail or prison. If I get arrested with any felony charge I will loose every benefit that I have through the VA.

Now, am I saying that marijuana would cure me and it would be rainbows and marshmallows if I could fire up a joint? I have no idea, because at this point it's illegal to even try.

[farmbo]

24. Maybe its time for a short vacation to Oregon or Washington state...

To see if legalized pot mitigates your PTSD symptoms. I suspect we could pass the hat here on DU if money is a problem.

At least its worth a try,

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

29. Have you ever tried Topomax?

My daughter used to take it for seizures, migraines, anxiety, OCD, Tourettes and depression. Prior to taking it she used to have terrible nightmares too. It didn't get rid of them completely, but it helped with them. She lost a friend to suicide and had a lot of emotional trauama as a result...she experienced a tremendous amount of guilt. Topomax helped her with almost everything that was going on with her. It did cause her to have some difficulty remembering words she wanted, though, but otherwise she responded great on the lowest possible dose.

[TexasBushwhacker]

42. Re Topomax and memory

They don't call it Dopomax for nothin'. I had to take it for a while for hand tremors.

[mountain grammy]

34. Colorado!

My husband is a Vietnam vet who gets healthcare through the VA. He's met a few PTSD patients who swear cannabis has saved their lives. A couple have relocated here just so they can smoke legally. Most dispensaries give discounts to veterans.
I wish you the best. Marijuana is a benign drug that is proven to be effective for relief of pain and anxiety. I won't say it's a cure all, but prohibition is needlessly hurting people.

[NWCorona]

15. It's a plant

And if it happens to burn there might be some effects.

[MagickMuffin]

3. Yet, check out ALL the Pharma medications that have warnings on the other

complications caused by using those drugs. They even mention taking them can lead to death.

Perhaps Chelsea should stick to topics she understands!

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

33. A lot of people don't realize this, but if someone has a family history of mental illness marijuana

use can actually trigger the development of very serious mental illnesses like severe bipolar disorder with psychosis and schizophrenia. That is the most likely reason that the guy in Miami that ate the homeless man's face was found to only have marijuana in his system. Psychosis was likely triggered by the marijuana he smoked.

Just wanted to mention this so anyone not aware can go ahead and look it up.

[theaocp]

45. Prohibition is obviously the best approach.

Thanks for the information. Our DoJ can keep on keepin' on.

[Blue_Tires]

5. She didn't just pull it out of thin air:

http://www.denverpost.com/2014/04/03/marijuana-edibles-in-spotlight-in-colorado-after-students-death/

http://www.denverpost.com/2015/07/24/cdc-warns-of-marijuana-consumption-in-report-citing-teens-colorado-death/

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/24/health/colorado-pot-er-visits/

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2015/05/18/marijuana-intoxication-blamed-in-more-deaths-injuries/

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/marijuana-cookie-death-colorado-warning-labels-cdc/

http://www.newsweek.com/deaths-prompt-colorado-crackdown-pot-infused-food-251833

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6428a6.htm

[scscholar]

8. Thanks. I live in Seattle, and I've seen the horrors. (ntxt)

[RonniePudding]

41. "The horrors"

A bit melodramatic, don't you think?

It's always interesting to me when supposed progressives view marijuana through the conservative lens.

[Dem2]

9. Thanks

As noted by others, it's a drug with psycho-active effects - people need to be careful and monitor their intake carefully until they understand how it effects them. I've found that there's a significant variation in any given person's reaction to marijuana.

[JoePhilly]

6. Very very concerning.

[Journeyman]

7. It's true. You have a 300 lb bale drop on you from a 40 foot height, you got problems . . .

[Go Vols]

10. +1

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

11. Or, you can ingest it ballistically ....

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/feb/27/marijuana-cannon-us-border-seized-mexico

[Journeyman]

12. I remember shotgunning. It seems so quaint today . . .

[apcalc]

13. She seems reasonable to me....

Like anything else it is a drug.
Consider alcohol-Used irresponsibly, it can kill...you or others......
How about aspirin? Various other over the counter meds?

Let the science and evidence be gathered before you condemn.
Do you even know what evidence she is referring to? Have you researched the cases ?

[KittyWampus]

14. That's some butchered quotation along with zero context.

I hate to bump this POS thread... but had to make sure other DU'ers realize how content on this site can be misleading

[Fast Walker 52]

16. her statement seems fair... bad headline

[Osakagreg]

18. "Suggests?"

Chelsea's statement was "But we also have anecdotal evidence now from Colorado where some of the people who were taking marijuana for those purposes, the coroner believes, after they died, there was drug interactions with other things they were taking."

One thing is certain, Chelsea has said that she is 100% in favor of medical marijuana.

[Go Vols]

20. Yep,and recreational too.

Elsewhere in the weekend remarks, Clinton reiterated her mother’s pledge to respect the right of states to implement their own marijuana laws without federal interference.

“She supports states making whatever choices they think are right vis–à–vis medical or recreational marijuana use,” she said.

+ from same article

no other drugs were involved, so there are no “interactions” to speak of.

http://www.marijuana.com/blog/news/2016/09/chelsea-clinton-implies-marijuana-can-kill-you/

[bettyellen]

25. And I think it's inevitable that states will do it themselves.....

And the tide will turn.

[LeftRant]

19. She cited possible drug interactions. It's a valid point.

We haven't been allowed to study this drug because of the government. All drugs have side effects and interactions with other compounds. Maybe they're not harmful in 99% of people but we won't know until we can study this a lot.

The title is hyperbole. Shame.

[radius777]

21. it is a moderate and reasonable position

any drug, especially one that affects the brain/nervous system, is going to have side effects, especially for those individuals that may have underlying health problems. it can also be addictive just like alcohol or any other drug that stimulates the dopamine pathways.

also the potency can vary. it's not regulated, standardized or well understood enough. more research is needed.

it should be decriminalized, but im not sure if that is the same thing as saying it is a thoroughly healthy or good thing for society as a whole. we just don't know until more scientific studies are done.

[jalan48]

23. Sitting in prison because of a marijuana bust is bad for the health as well.

Somehow I doubt many children of millionaires have to go through such an ordeal when they get caught with weed.

[RKP5637]

26. FFS!!! Wonder if she also checked on deaths from alcohol, among one of the worst killers. n/t

[workinclasszero]

28. No kidding

Every day, 28 people in the United States die in motor vehicle crashes that involve an alcohol-impaired driver. This amounts to one death every 53 minutes. The annual cost of alcohol-related crashes totals more than $44 billion.

http://www.cdc.gov/motorvehiclesafety/impaired_driving/impaired-drv_factsheet.html

So when are we making alcohol illegal?

[RKP5637]

30. Amazing, isn't it. n/t

[workinclasszero]

35. It always blows my mind when the media hysterically screams about

a heroin/meth/crack epidemic that kills maybe 5000 a year. I mean its sad but.....

Close to 500,000 people die a year from legal smoking and 10's of thousands from drinking in wrecks and just medical issues.

But that's all good because...reasons.

How many people died last year from smoking pot????

Let me guess.....ZERO?

[RKP5637]

38. I've really never known anyone with a serious problem from pot. Often I think we live in an

awfully dumb society. It goes forward in some ways, and then takes leaps backward sometimes. The height of ignorance and propaganda against pot is astounding. And then big pharma, plus alcohol pushers not wanting profits disturbed. Plus those that want to see people wither in pain that might be helped by pot. The fight against medical marijuana is stunning.

[mountain grammy]

36. Oh yeah, there's that!

and then, cigarettes, the real gateway drug.

[RKP5637]

39. Someone was slurping away on scotch the other day telling me how pot is a gateway drug. As I was

watching them progressively get drunk I said, and what's that drug the gateway too. All I got was a deer in the headlight look, like DUH!

[happynewyear]

27. What does she know?

and more importantly, DID SHE INHALE?

[phallon]

31. Chelsea,

Your parents lied to you about marijuana. What choice did they have with Tipper always around.

[Lint Head]

32. 3,141 people were killed today in traffic accidents.

On average, 28 of those deaths were alcohol related.
http://www.icebike.org/real-time-traffic-accident-statistics/

[underthematrix]

37. Well Chelsea's actual words are a far cry from suggesting marijuana

kills people. It appears she cited research on both sides of the issues effective in treating epilepsy and patients receiving chemo. It doesn't sound like she's taking sides

[BlueStateLib]

40. You people aren't even close to what Chelsea Clinton said in Youngstown about marijuana

Chelsea Clinton: FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE NON-EPILEPSY SEISURE DISORDERS AND CHALLENGES, THAT WE ALSO HAVE ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE FROM COLORADO WHERE SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE TAKING MARIJUANA FOR THOSE PURPOSES, THE CORNER BELIEVED AFTER THEY DIED THAT THERE WAS DRUG INTERACTION WITH OTHER THINGS THEY WERE TAKING. ONE OF THE REASONS WE NEED RIGOROUS STUDYING IS THAT WE WANT TO KNOW WHERE IT WORKS AND WHERE IT DOES NOT BECAUSE PROBABLY THERE ARE SOME AREAS WHERE IT WORKS AND AREAS WHERE IT DOES NOT. ONE OF THE REASONS THE FDA HAS SUCH RIGOROUS TESTING AND ONE OF THE REASONS OUR FDA APPROVAL PROCESS IS THE GOLD STANDARD FOR THE WORLD IS THE RIGOROUS STUDY OF NEW DRUGS AND HOW THEY INTERACT WITH OVER-THE-COUNTER DRUGS AND PRESCRIPTION DRUGS.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?415832-1/chelsea-clinton-sally-field-make-campaign-appearance-johnstown-pennsylvania

[VulgarPoet]

43. I hope to God she never runs for public office.

There hopefully won't be another Trump that forces a vote for her.

[Demsrule86]

44. I read what Chelsea actually said.

And it is not what is posted here...you should delete for inaccuracy.