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Howard Dean just suggested Trump may have been on cocaine during the debate. (Original Post) pnwmom Sep 2016 OP
WTF? That's kind of like disparaging Hillary's cough. Beartracks Sep 2016 #1
It was the sniffles IN COMBINATION with his hyped-up, zig-zagging style of speaking. n/t pnwmom Sep 2016 #3
Okay, NOW I see it! n/t Beartracks Sep 2016 #5
MAYBE TRUMP'S HIPPY DIPPY DR. WACKY PRESCRIBED SOME SPECIAL PILLS. cynzke Sep 2016 #37
Not saying anything, but Hitler also had a small drug problem... erronis Sep 2016 #46
That plus his crazy, hyped up speaking style looks very much like a coke problem anneboleyn Sep 2016 #9
This morning Trump insisted that he doesn't have a cold or allergies. yardwork Sep 2016 #31
That was my thought. I work in the area of substance abuse. Reminds me of some of clients. kerry-is-my-prez Sep 2016 #51
He did not sound stopped up ... nt Sunny05 Sep 2016 #54
Nope. He was breathing very sharply, deeply... and loudly. n/t Beartracks Sep 2016 #55
And I see nothing wrong with him being high on coke for the debate. woolldog Sep 2016 #2
Trump's coke habit shouldn't necessarily be disqualifying as long as he goes to rehab by January. Coyotl Sep 2016 #48
that is fantastic mercuryblues Sep 2016 #49
Funny! Sunny05 Sep 2016 #57
Is that REALLY a symptom of too much coke? thx in advance uponit7771 Sep 2016 #4
It's also a sign of allergies, colds, etc. But yes, to answer your question. pnwmom Sep 2016 #6
He told Dr Oz he was going to work on losing fifteen pounds, lol.... bettyellen Sep 2016 #24
Many on twitter are saying that radical noodle Sep 2016 #7
The Trump Bump? Generic Brad Sep 2016 #8
Trump's famed stamina, like most things Trump, is all artificial. LeftRant Sep 2016 #10
Oh, that's bad. But lmao anyway! Sunny05 Sep 2016 #58
Leave it alone kevink077 Sep 2016 #11
+1 Beartracks Sep 2016 #56
For comparison: Bowie on coke during Dick Cavett's show. Compare to Trump anneboleyn Sep 2016 #12
Agree about Bowie. You don't get many unique talents like him and Prince. Yavin4 Sep 2016 #19
Trump needs to take a drug test Gothmog Sep 2016 #13
Some medications dry the sinuses bucolic_frolic Sep 2016 #14
I knew something was up reflection Sep 2016 #15
WTF happened to this place? Are we becoming the left's version JRLeft Sep 2016 #16
Yes, how dare we mock and criticize the racist monster known as Drumpf RonniePudding Sep 2016 #18
There's been a lot of conspiracies including polling. JRLeft Sep 2016 #20
You'll be alright. RonniePudding Sep 2016 #21
You're right, I'm a black man in America. I can survive anyone as President even one who says he JRLeft Sep 2016 #35
And how exactly does that to relate to you being upset people were being mean to Trump? RonniePudding Sep 2016 #36
Who said I was upset? JRLeft Sep 2016 #40
Trump said very clearly today that he doesn't have a cold or allergies. pnwmom Sep 2016 #23
No, does not make sense. Sunny05 Sep 2016 #61
Interesting Andy823 Sep 2016 #34
I'm sure it's just hay fever. Frank Cannon Sep 2016 #62
He should be media stalked to undergo a drug test. No candidate should get away with this. ancianita Sep 2016 #17
He's not on cocaine Osakagreg Sep 2016 #22
Dude's been doing lines since the early 80s man Loki Liesmith Sep 2016 #26
He's on something and has been for a while womanofthehills Sep 2016 #32
K&R UCmeNdc Sep 2016 #25
I've always said, "Cocaine is the gods' way of telling you that you have too much money". WheelWalker Sep 2016 #27
Not worth getting too riled up DFW Sep 2016 #28
This morning on Fox and Friends he denied having a cold or allergies BadDog40 Sep 2016 #29
This: MineralMan Sep 2016 #30
That's sure the first thing that came to my mind! LAS14 Sep 2016 #33
I have seen this type of behavior before. It was fueled by a chemical. Inability to focus, rambling, Laser102 Sep 2016 #38
Since some people are saying that treestar Sep 2016 #39
Dean was just on msnbc and said he would not take the tweet down. I think it riversedge Sep 2016 #41
He stood by it an enumerated the four "symptoms" he exhibited.... bettyellen Sep 2016 #42
Powder cocaine has always been the quintessential idle rich idiot's junk of choice. Dalziel3979 Sep 2016 #43
Give me Librium or give me Meth! :) - nt KingCharlemagne Sep 2016 #44
I read somewhere that Trump always makes snorting noises. They have just edited it out on his taped judesedit Sep 2016 #45
Why doesn't he simply acknowledge chronic sinus or allergy problems, if that's what this is? pnwmom Sep 2016 #47
WTF is THIS rumor about Hillary's health re. the debate? Beartracks Sep 2016 #50
Yeah there are photo shopped pics of her and bullshit rumors..... bettyellen Sep 2016 #52
Little piggies *snort* *snort* *snort* that way happynewyear Sep 2016 #53
Was thinking that too. I work in substance abuse too..... kerry-is-my-prez Sep 2016 #59
Colbert pretty much said the same thing..... kerry-is-my-prez Sep 2016 #60

Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
1. WTF? That's kind of like disparaging Hillary's cough.
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 11:57 PM
Sep 2016

As a longtime allergy-nose-blower, I can relate to having an inopportunely runny shnozz.

Edited to add: But I just remembered Trump didn't really sound sniffly. He just sounded like he was inhaling deeply, quickly... and closely to the mic.

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erronis

(15,241 posts)
46. Not saying anything, but Hitler also had a small drug problem...
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 08:47 PM
Sep 2016
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/sep/25/blitzed-norman-ohler-adolf-hitler-nazi-drug-abuse-interview

Seems that people that are addicted to power have other "crosses" to bear (again not to say anything bad about xians or others.)

Watch out for those that proclaim themselves better than the rest - Huger, Smarter, Purer, Whatever. They're probably all liars and psychopaths. Not me, of course!!!

yardwork

(61,599 posts)
31. This morning Trump insisted that he doesn't have a cold or allergies.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 01:59 PM
Sep 2016

He denied that he was sniffing! Claimed it was a "bad mic."

That leaves an obvious suspicion....

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
51. That was my thought. I work in the area of substance abuse. Reminds me of some of clients.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 10:51 PM
Sep 2016

I have allergies too - his nose would have been running.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
2. And I see nothing wrong with him being high on coke for the debate.
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 11:58 PM
Sep 2016

Let him do the next debate on coke as well. This is America after all. Freedom of choice and all that.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
48. Trump's coke habit shouldn't necessarily be disqualifying as long as he goes to rehab by January.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 09:05 PM
Sep 2016

Elliott Lusztig ?@ezlusztig
#ManyPeopleAreSaying Trump's coke habit shouldn't necessarily be disqualifying as long as he goes to rehab by January.

At least the #TrumpSniffles is giving people some post-debate fun after having to endure him for 90 minutes. You can well imagine how many people missed work today for psychological reasons after their first long exposure to Trump's Tea Party mind. They'll recover, especially if they laugh hard enough to snort at Trump jokes (pun intended).
If you had to skip work today just to recover then don't watch the next debate, it may save your paycheck. [center]

Elaine Replogle ?@ElaineReplogle 5 hours ago
Best post-debate meme I've seen. Good summary. #ClintonWon #Debates2016

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
6. It's also a sign of allergies, colds, etc. But yes, to answer your question.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 12:10 AM
Sep 2016

Physical Warning Signs of Cocaine Use
Nosebleeds
Chapped lips
Dry mouth
Dilated pupils
Racing heart
Runny nose
Weight loss
Post nasal drip
Dehydration

http://www.new-hope-recovery.com/center/2013/12/16/warning-signs-for-cocaine-addiction/

LeftRant

(524 posts)
10. Trump's famed stamina, like most things Trump, is all artificial.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 12:38 AM
Sep 2016

I'd bet there's boner pills in his cabinet too.

kevink077

(365 posts)
11. Leave it alone
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 12:43 AM
Sep 2016

And if he passes he comes out better than ever. Trump looks like an ass for attacking Clintons health now. Let's not ruin it.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
12. For comparison: Bowie on coke during Dick Cavett's show. Compare to Trump
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 12:44 AM
Sep 2016

I adore Bowie, and ugh I still can't accept his death. What a beautiful and talented man! Bowie talked in his later years about his problems with drugs, especially in the early 1970s, when he was certain he would die from heroin and cocaine abuse.

Compare Bowie's sniffling, nose rubbing, speaking style, nervousness, quick changes in emotion, etc to Trump. Bowie is worse here than Trump but there are many similarities. Plus Trump always acts holier than thou about drugs, claiming he's never touched a drug or even a drink. I find that VERY hard to believe.

https://m.

Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
19. Agree about Bowie. You don't get many unique talents like him and Prince.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 12:28 PM
Sep 2016

Esp. in the music biz today. No one takes chances any more.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
16. WTF happened to this place? Are we becoming the left's version
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 12:13 PM
Sep 2016

of infowars.com?

Come on people this crazy talk. Loco!

 

RonniePudding

(889 posts)
18. Yes, how dare we mock and criticize the racist monster known as Drumpf
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 12:24 PM
Sep 2016

The horror of it all has given me the vapors.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
35. You're right, I'm a black man in America. I can survive anyone as President even one who says he
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 02:31 PM
Sep 2016

wants to be terrorists.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
23. Trump said very clearly today that he doesn't have a cold or allergies.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 12:43 PM
Sep 2016

He blames the sniffing on the mic.

Does that make sense to you??

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
34. Interesting
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 02:26 PM
Sep 2016

So during the primaries you weren't happy with all of the "crazy talk" being post here about Hillary? You must have come out with the same kind of rebuke to those who were doing that, right?

ancianita

(36,053 posts)
17. He should be media stalked to undergo a drug test. No candidate should get away with this.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 12:20 PM
Sep 2016

We Democrats should raise hell about this. The utter gall. The utter arrogant viciousness and disrespect toward the office!

The gutter morality of it all.

Osakagreg

(111 posts)
22. He's not on cocaine
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 12:42 PM
Sep 2016

Hopefully, that was meant just to be comical.

The last thing I would want to see among Democrats is chasing conspiracy theories as those on the right do so well.

If there is one thing we should learn from the Republicans, it is that leaving facts behind, in order to attract a louder audience is not the kind of fuel we want. Look what it got them. They have Trump now.

I know this was probably posted in a comical sense. But I wanted to chime in about that.

womanofthehills

(8,703 posts)
32. He's on something and has been for a while
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 02:09 PM
Sep 2016

He's either aggressive or he looks like he on downers. So many drugs to choose from.

DFW

(54,370 posts)
28. Not worth getting too riled up
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 01:38 PM
Sep 2016

If Trump had all the classic symptoms of a man doing cocaine, then it's everyone's right (especially an MD) to notice it. If Trump wants to refute it, fine, if not, that's fine, too.

It'll blow over eventually. Pun intended.

BadDog40

(273 posts)
29. This morning on Fox and Friends he denied having a cold or allergies
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 01:42 PM
Sep 2016

and yet his nose was completely stuffed up. If you've ever done coke you know how your nose is the next morning, I have no doubt he was on cocaine last night.

Laser102

(816 posts)
38. I have seen this type of behavior before. It was fueled by a chemical. Inability to focus, rambling,
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 04:31 PM
Sep 2016

sniffing. He was like a kid with ADHD off Ritalin. There is something very wrong with him. Of course saying he's on something is making an excuse for a narcissist, misogynist, bigot, bloated tick. I can't fathom anyone more vile.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
39. Since some people are saying that
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 04:33 PM
Sep 2016

that ought to be enough for the media to obsess about it for a few days. They would if it was Hillary.

riversedge

(70,204 posts)
41. Dean was just on msnbc and said he would not take the tweet down. I think it
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 04:37 PM
Sep 2016

was msnbc. Could have been Cnn. The host dig at him several times. Dean stood by his tweet.

Dalziel3979

(72 posts)
43. Powder cocaine has always been the quintessential idle rich idiot's junk of choice.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 05:27 PM
Sep 2016

So naturally you'll never see a 'war on drugs' declared against that particular substance. That's always been strictly reserved for the peasantry and their far worse society eroding low grade narcs like crack, heroin, meth, and ganja.

judesedit

(4,438 posts)
45. I read somewhere that Trump always makes snorting noises. They have just edited it out on his taped
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 08:38 PM
Sep 2016

appearances. The debate was live and up close.

Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
50. WTF is THIS rumor about Hillary's health re. the debate?
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 10:44 PM
Sep 2016

So there I am today in a two-patient recovery room, waiting for a relative to get wheeled back from an outpatient procedure. On the other side of the curtain is a mom and daughter, and I overhear the daughter saying something like this to her mom, in hushed tones:

"If you watch Hillary closely in the debate, her eyes sometimes point in two different directions. And there was one time where she suddenly started talking really loud, I mean really obvious. Both of these things are signs of Parkinson's disease."

WTF? Is this, like, the current theory going around the wacky conserva-web?

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kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
59. Was thinking that too. I work in substance abuse too.....
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 11:50 PM
Sep 2016

Seen it before. With allergies, your nose runs, you're not just sniffing with no nasal discharge.

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