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Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:45 AM

We need to back the Papa Johns employees

Papa John has announced that because of the election he will be laying off employees because of the Affordable Care Act. Go to his facebook page and let him know what you think. His page is overwhelmed with negative comments. He could charge an extra .14 cents per pizza and be able for afford to provide all of his employees with good health care insurance, but instead he is threatening a layoff. I for one will be boycotting Papa Johns. Let's back up other American Workers and tell him what you think. Ready, set, go!!!!!

Here is the link:

http://www.facebook.com/papajohns

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Reply We need to back the Papa Johns employees (Original post)
goblue316 Nov 2012 OP
ChairmanAgnostic Nov 2012 #1
Fawke Em Nov 2012 #2
goblue316 Nov 2012 #5
Fawke Em Nov 2012 #12
patricia92243 Nov 2012 #27
bkkyosemite Nov 2012 #3
KharmaTrain Nov 2012 #41
LibGranny Nov 2012 #4
mnhtnbb Nov 2012 #6
goblue316 Nov 2012 #10
mnhtnbb Nov 2012 #13
BlueStreak Nov 2012 #7
Panasonic Nov 2012 #43
tarheelsunc Nov 2012 #8
BlueStreak Nov 2012 #9
MadBadger Nov 2012 #11
SDjack Nov 2012 #14
mzteaze Nov 2012 #15
Viva_La_Revolution Nov 2012 #23
woolldog Nov 2012 #44
Mz Pip Nov 2012 #16
DrewFlorida Nov 2012 #19
BlueStreak Nov 2012 #24
Blue4Texas Nov 2012 #17
BlueStreak Nov 2012 #28
Beaverhausen Nov 2012 #31
Blue4Texas Nov 2012 #32
DrewFlorida Nov 2012 #18
Sunlei Nov 2012 #20
JohnnyRingo Nov 2012 #21
lunamagica Nov 2012 #22
and-justice-for-all Nov 2012 #25
libdem4life Nov 2012 #26
RosedaleGuy Nov 2012 #29
spooky3 Nov 2012 #30
goblue316 Nov 2012 #35
spooky3 Nov 2012 #37
railsback Nov 2012 #33
spooky3 Nov 2012 #38
coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #34
md83 Nov 2012 #36
democrattotheend Nov 2012 #39
ffr Nov 2012 #40
Mr.Bill Nov 2012 #42

Response to goblue316 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:47 AM

1. I wrote and promised never to return

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Response to goblue316 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:49 AM

2. I would like to read the Facebook page.

Do you have a link?

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Response to goblue316 (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:02 AM

12. Thanks!

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Response to goblue316 (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:35 PM

27. Thanks - just let them know I will be boycotting them until they reinstate their employees hours.

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Response to goblue316 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:50 AM

3. Also read that the Olive Garden was scaling back on hours to 30 so that they

would not have to give insurance to their employees. I think this is a temper tamtrum and when the economy really gets going these idiot employers will have to hire full time and give insurance ha ha.

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Response to bkkyosemite (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:09 PM

41. Real Stupid Moves...

When you hire someone full time they tend to be a lot more dedicated and harder workers. Part-timers...especially those who know the boss is cutting corners by not offering full time or benefits will be more likely to not show up for work or be available for hours (as they'll have to take another part time job to make up for the loss of income/benefits). Then it's a manpower nightmare as you'll have a lot more part timers to try to keep track of and someone who will need to watch hours. This stupid move is guaranteed to cut productivity and profits.

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Response to goblue316 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:52 AM

4. I sent a note to Papa John's and

said we have 3 other pizza house selections her in our town and that my husband makes the BEST pizza ever! So Papa Johns won't be missed!

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Response to goblue316 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:57 AM

6. Self delete

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Response to mnhtnbb (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:01 AM

10. I found the orignal

facebook page by putting in a search for papa johns and then the link said like us on facebook and that is how I got in.

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Response to goblue316 (Reply #10)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:03 AM

13. Yeah, after you provided the link I deleted my post. Thanks!

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Response to goblue316 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:58 AM

7. One way to Papa Johns is through Peyton Manning

He has a Children's Hospital named after him in Indianapolis.

He advertises for Papa Johns and bought 21 of their franchises. He needs to take a stand in favor of health care. Otherwise why the hell is he associated with a children's hospital?

See http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021789628#post1

He is busy playing football. I'm sure he doesn't understand the issue. We need to find a way to educate him. If he understood, I believe he would do the right thing. And if he doesn't, I think we should seriously consider a campaign to reduce the value of the "Peyton Manning brand".

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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #7)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:41 PM

43. I'll twitter to Peyton to dump Papa John's like a hot potato and invest in Blackjack's

 

Rod Smith used to pitch for Blackjack, and they make pretty good pizza for a local chain.

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Response to goblue316 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:58 AM

8. I'd pay an extra 14 cents per pizza if I knew it helped the workers

With that said, Papa John can really afford to pay for this himself and he knows it.

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Response to tarheelsunc (Reply #8)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:00 AM

9. The whole 14 cents is bogus

If you screw your employees, that costs you a lot more than 14 cents. If you take care of your employees the employer benefits a lot more than 14 cents.

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Response to goblue316 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:01 AM

11. Maybe he shouldnt be giving away 2 million free...Papa Johns Pizza's

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Response to goblue316 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:12 AM

14. Anyone maintaining on the Internet a list of companies that

operate under a pro-GOP agenda?

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Response to goblue316 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:18 AM

15. Saw this on FB

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Response to mzteaze (Reply #15)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:20 PM

23. so did I

and it was from 2 different non-political types

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Response to mzteaze (Reply #15)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:48 PM

44. That picture is why the top marginal rate needs to go back to 90%

Lives like that, but won't provide employees health care.

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Response to goblue316 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:23 AM

16. His threat is bullshit

If he cuts his employees he won't be able to meet the demand for his pizzas. Less employees means slower less efficient service. Businesses hire as many people as they need to meet the demands of their customers.

He'd be biting off his nose to spite his face.

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Response to Mz Pip (Reply #16)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:29 AM

19. Absolutely correct, economics 101, these type of threats are bogus!

However, Papa John's may see a lower demand for their pizza, due to the asshole who runs the company, I for one will not buy Papa John's pizza from now on!

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Response to Mz Pip (Reply #16)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:20 PM

24. Thank you. This is just like the timeshare guy who says

he'll have to scale back ripping off his customers if Obama gets elected. No. He'll keep ripping off as many customers as he can.

In the in case of Papa John, if I understand it, he is threatening to make more employees part time so they won't be covered by the ACA provisions. First off, 80% of the Papa John's stores are franchised and many of them are small enough businesses that they would qualify for ASSISTANCE to provide health care. Second, Papa John has absolutely nothing to say about whether his franchisees use full-time employees, part time, or both. Third, any intelligent business person is going to look for the best employees they can afford for the job. You simply don't get a lot of loyalty from part-time employees. Certainly there are many people who only want a part time job at a pizza place, because they may already have a full-time job or are in school. But your key employees will usually be full time, and it has nothing to do with ACA.

If these bastards want to hire full time employees and not help with their health care, then screw them. They should pay a tax, even if it is only 14 cents per pizza.

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Response to goblue316 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:23 AM

17. The whole 30 hours is bogus

I doubt many of his employees work 30 hours

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Response to Blue4Texas (Reply #17)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:36 PM

28. Except for managers - and he isn't going to demote them to part time

Want to lose a good manager quickly? That will do it.

Here is another clear picture of makers and takers. The makers:


The takers:

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Response to Blue4Texas (Reply #17)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:01 PM

31. I wondered about that too. He must have plenty of people in his corporate office

I assume they won't have their hours cut either. Not really sure who this affects, but like you I doubt most of the employees we are thinking about, those who we actually deal with when we get our pizzas, are working a 40 hour week.

disclaimer- I do not get any pizzas from them. I luckily have a great local place nearby that does pretty good pizza. Pretty good is all one can hope for in California. But that's another thread...

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Response to Beaverhausen (Reply #31)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:10 PM

32. I wonder if boycott

Is what they want to then connect it to layoffs, they are slimy as evidenced

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Response to goblue316 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:26 AM

18. Thank you for the link and the idea, I just posted my personal boycott!

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Response to goblue316 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:32 AM

20. pizza employees couple band together and sell your own local pizza

small local business start-ups for the win. national chain pizza is crap.

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Response to goblue316 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:42 AM

21. He'll get what he pays for.

By keeping employee hours down to part time status and paying them the absolute minimum, he'll be assured of a subpar workforce that is constantly looking for a better job. Employee turnover will increase and he'll spend a fortune on perpetual training costs. Few will feel any commitment to the company, the job, or him, so employee theft will increase. He can push people around, but he can't force them to care about whether he's making money.

Appointments with his accountant will soon be an unpleasant experience, even without a boycott.

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Response to goblue316 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:08 PM

22. Is it true that Pizza Hut is willing to hire the workers from Papa John's?

I hope it is true, that would be amazing!

Down with Papa John's!!

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Response to goblue316 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:30 PM

25. LOL!

people are letting johnny boy have it over there.

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Response to goblue316 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:33 PM

26. Another thought ... without "going totally negative" ... why not just declare the Best Pizza

place in your town. Give them some free advertising...friends, family, organizations, etc. As a sidenote and "not selected" Papa John's or Godfather or whatever. Just make sure the preferred company isn't anti-gay or some other nonsense. No retail place of business or eating can ever get enough good advertising.

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Response to goblue316 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:45 PM

29. Papa John's customers are mostly young people

who elected the president. The Twitterverse should call for a boycott of Papa John's until he apologizes. He wants to punish the country for re-electing Obama but the country is far more able to punish him for his childish tantrum.

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Response to goblue316 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:00 PM

30. They need to unionize.

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Response to spooky3 (Reply #30)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:21 PM

35. Union would be nice, but

We the people can help. We need to boycott and then turn around and support our local small businesses. We also need to back our President and push the government to push these big businesses to do their civic duty and provide health care insurance without whining. And when corporations start to layoff people we boycott till we can't boycott no more. We have been brainwashed into thinking we can not do with out Big Business, well that is wrong. They are not too big to fail!!

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Response to goblue316 (Reply #35)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:21 PM

37. Yes, I was not suggesting it as either-or. We get natural pizza from a local

shop. We have had PJ's delivered before, but never again.

If "John" can't see the lack of logic in his own argument, or believes his customers cannot, he's not a very smart business person.

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Response to goblue316 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:13 PM

33. How stupid is the Right?

 

Pretty damn stupid, reading those Facebook comments. They're argument is that Papa John's employs around 600 people in corporate, and that 2600 stores are independently run as franchises, so they can do what they want. If there are 2600 independently run U.S. stores out there, Schnatter is deliberately affecting their businesses to score political rightwing points. He personally doesn't have to worry about losing income. No big whoop to him. But all those small business owners who invested their own money and aren't making very big margins at all are going to lose a lot of income. The U.S. can do without turds like Schnatter. Pretty selfish.

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Response to railsback (Reply #33)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:22 PM

38. exactly +1 (n/t)

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Response to goblue316 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:16 PM

34. Just posted the following there:

 

What a piece of shit your CEO Schnatter is. Just like his shitty, heart-attack inducing pizza. Glad I don't own any shares of stock in this company or I'd be selling them pronto. Come to think of it, I may sell PZZA short on Monday.

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Response to goblue316 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:57 PM

36. In addition to their $3.50 "delivery fee"...

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Response to goblue316 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:43 PM

39. This might be a crazy thought

But instead of boycotting, what if people were to go out of their way to eat at Papa John's and add an extra 14 cents to their order, with a note that we support Obamacare and are willing to pay 14 cents more per pizza for it. I know it doesn't punish the owner, but it might send him a message and do more to support the workers.

I had a similar idea with Applebee's, but this might be even easier since he actually said how much it adds to the cost and it might send the message and cause the CEO to reconsider. I fear that if we boycott it might only cause more layoffs and thus feed into the story that Obamacare is hurting business and its workers.

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Response to goblue316 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:43 PM

40. He's getting ripped to pieces on his Fb page

Gotta say they're passing some luv his way.

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Response to goblue316 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:26 PM

42. Go to their stores, order the cheapest single thing on the menu,

small soft drink? or whatever, then leave a $5 tip. Support the employees, not the business.

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