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goblue316

(69 posts)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:45 AM Nov 2012

We need to back the Papa Johns employees

Papa John has announced that because of the election he will be laying off employees because of the Affordable Care Act. Go to his facebook page and let him know what you think. His page is overwhelmed with negative comments. He could charge an extra .14 cents per pizza and be able for afford to provide all of his employees with good health care insurance, but instead he is threatening a layoff. I for one will be boycotting Papa Johns. Let's back up other American Workers and tell him what you think. Ready, set, go!!!!!

Here is the link:

http://www.facebook.com/papajohns

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We need to back the Papa Johns employees (Original Post) goblue316 Nov 2012 OP
I wrote and promised never to return ChairmanAgnostic Nov 2012 #1
I would like to read the Facebook page. Fawke Em Nov 2012 #2
Here ya go!! goblue316 Nov 2012 #5
Thanks! Fawke Em Nov 2012 #12
Thanks - just let them know I will be boycotting them until they reinstate their employees hours. patricia92243 Nov 2012 #27
Also read that the Olive Garden was scaling back on hours to 30 so that they bkkyosemite Nov 2012 #3
Real Stupid Moves... KharmaTrain Nov 2012 #41
I sent a note to Papa John's and LibGranny Nov 2012 #4
Self delete mnhtnbb Nov 2012 #6
I found the orignal goblue316 Nov 2012 #10
Yeah, after you provided the link I deleted my post. Thanks! mnhtnbb Nov 2012 #13
One way to Papa Johns is through Peyton Manning BlueStreak Nov 2012 #7
I'll twitter to Peyton to dump Papa John's like a hot potato and invest in Blackjack's Panasonic Nov 2012 #43
I'd pay an extra 14 cents per pizza if I knew it helped the workers tarheelsunc Nov 2012 #8
The whole 14 cents is bogus BlueStreak Nov 2012 #9
Maybe he shouldnt be giving away 2 million free...Papa Johns Pizza's MadBadger Nov 2012 #11
Anyone maintaining on the Internet a list of companies that SDjack Nov 2012 #14
Saw this on FB mzteaze Nov 2012 #15
so did I Viva_La_Revolution Nov 2012 #23
That picture is why the top marginal rate needs to go back to 90% woolldog Nov 2012 #44
His threat is bullshit Mz Pip Nov 2012 #16
Absolutely correct, economics 101, these type of threats are bogus! DrewFlorida Nov 2012 #19
Thank you. This is just like the timeshare guy who says BlueStreak Nov 2012 #24
The whole 30 hours is bogus Blue4Texas Nov 2012 #17
Except for managers - and he isn't going to demote them to part time BlueStreak Nov 2012 #28
I wondered about that too. He must have plenty of people in his corporate office Beaverhausen Nov 2012 #31
I wonder if boycott Blue4Texas Nov 2012 #32
Thank you for the link and the idea, I just posted my personal boycott! DrewFlorida Nov 2012 #18
pizza employees couple band together and sell your own local pizza Sunlei Nov 2012 #20
He'll get what he pays for. JohnnyRingo Nov 2012 #21
Is it true that Pizza Hut is willing to hire the workers from Papa John's? lunamagica Nov 2012 #22
LOL! and-justice-for-all Nov 2012 #25
Another thought ... without "going totally negative" ... why not just declare the Best Pizza libdem4life Nov 2012 #26
Papa John's customers are mostly young people RosedaleGuy Nov 2012 #29
They need to unionize. spooky3 Nov 2012 #30
Union would be nice, but goblue316 Nov 2012 #35
Yes, I was not suggesting it as either-or. We get natural pizza from a local spooky3 Nov 2012 #37
How stupid is the Right? railsback Nov 2012 #33
exactly +1 (n/t) spooky3 Nov 2012 #38
Just posted the following there: coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #34
In addition to their $3.50 "delivery fee"... md83 Nov 2012 #36
This might be a crazy thought democrattotheend Nov 2012 #39
He's getting ripped to pieces on his Fb page ffr Nov 2012 #40
Go to their stores, order the cheapest single thing on the menu, Mr.Bill Nov 2012 #42

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
3. Also read that the Olive Garden was scaling back on hours to 30 so that they
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:50 AM
Nov 2012

would not have to give insurance to their employees. I think this is a temper tamtrum and when the economy really gets going these idiot employers will have to hire full time and give insurance ha ha.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
41. Real Stupid Moves...
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:09 PM
Nov 2012

When you hire someone full time they tend to be a lot more dedicated and harder workers. Part-timers...especially those who know the boss is cutting corners by not offering full time or benefits will be more likely to not show up for work or be available for hours (as they'll have to take another part time job to make up for the loss of income/benefits). Then it's a manpower nightmare as you'll have a lot more part timers to try to keep track of and someone who will need to watch hours. This stupid move is guaranteed to cut productivity and profits.

LibGranny

(711 posts)
4. I sent a note to Papa John's and
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:52 AM
Nov 2012

said we have 3 other pizza house selections her in our town and that my husband makes the BEST pizza ever! So Papa Johns won't be missed!

goblue316

(69 posts)
10. I found the orignal
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:01 PM
Nov 2012

facebook page by putting in a search for papa johns and then the link said like us on facebook and that is how I got in.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
7. One way to Papa Johns is through Peyton Manning
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:58 AM
Nov 2012

He has a Children's Hospital named after him in Indianapolis.

He advertises for Papa Johns and bought 21 of their franchises. He needs to take a stand in favor of health care. Otherwise why the hell is he associated with a children's hospital?

See http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021789628#post1

He is busy playing football. I'm sure he doesn't understand the issue. We need to find a way to educate him. If he understood, I believe he would do the right thing. And if he doesn't, I think we should seriously consider a campaign to reduce the value of the "Peyton Manning brand".

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
43. I'll twitter to Peyton to dump Papa John's like a hot potato and invest in Blackjack's
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:41 PM
Nov 2012

Rod Smith used to pitch for Blackjack, and they make pretty good pizza for a local chain.

tarheelsunc

(2,117 posts)
8. I'd pay an extra 14 cents per pizza if I knew it helped the workers
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:58 AM
Nov 2012

With that said, Papa John can really afford to pay for this himself and he knows it.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
9. The whole 14 cents is bogus
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:00 PM
Nov 2012

If you screw your employees, that costs you a lot more than 14 cents. If you take care of your employees the employer benefits a lot more than 14 cents.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
44. That picture is why the top marginal rate needs to go back to 90%
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:48 PM
Nov 2012

Lives like that, but won't provide employees health care.

Mz Pip

(27,452 posts)
16. His threat is bullshit
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:23 PM
Nov 2012

If he cuts his employees he won't be able to meet the demand for his pizzas. Less employees means slower less efficient service. Businesses hire as many people as they need to meet the demands of their customers.

He'd be biting off his nose to spite his face.

DrewFlorida

(1,096 posts)
19. Absolutely correct, economics 101, these type of threats are bogus!
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:29 PM
Nov 2012

However, Papa John's may see a lower demand for their pizza, due to the asshole who runs the company, I for one will not buy Papa John's pizza from now on!

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
24. Thank you. This is just like the timeshare guy who says
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:20 PM
Nov 2012

he'll have to scale back ripping off his customers if Obama gets elected. No. He'll keep ripping off as many customers as he can.

In the in case of Papa John, if I understand it, he is threatening to make more employees part time so they won't be covered by the ACA provisions. First off, 80% of the Papa John's stores are franchised and many of them are small enough businesses that they would qualify for ASSISTANCE to provide health care. Second, Papa John has absolutely nothing to say about whether his franchisees use full-time employees, part time, or both. Third, any intelligent business person is going to look for the best employees they can afford for the job. You simply don't get a lot of loyalty from part-time employees. Certainly there are many people who only want a part time job at a pizza place, because they may already have a full-time job or are in school. But your key employees will usually be full time, and it has nothing to do with ACA.

If these bastards want to hire full time employees and not help with their health care, then screw them. They should pay a tax, even if it is only 14 cents per pizza.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
28. Except for managers - and he isn't going to demote them to part time
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:36 PM
Nov 2012

Want to lose a good manager quickly? That will do it.

Here is another clear picture of makers and takers. The makers:


The takers:

Beaverhausen

(24,470 posts)
31. I wondered about that too. He must have plenty of people in his corporate office
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:01 PM
Nov 2012

I assume they won't have their hours cut either. Not really sure who this affects, but like you I doubt most of the employees we are thinking about, those who we actually deal with when we get our pizzas, are working a 40 hour week.

disclaimer- I do not get any pizzas from them. I luckily have a great local place nearby that does pretty good pizza. Pretty good is all one can hope for in California. But that's another thread...

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
20. pizza employees couple band together and sell your own local pizza
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:32 PM
Nov 2012

small local business start-ups for the win. national chain pizza is crap.

JohnnyRingo

(18,638 posts)
21. He'll get what he pays for.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:42 PM
Nov 2012

By keeping employee hours down to part time status and paying them the absolute minimum, he'll be assured of a subpar workforce that is constantly looking for a better job. Employee turnover will increase and he'll spend a fortune on perpetual training costs. Few will feel any commitment to the company, the job, or him, so employee theft will increase. He can push people around, but he can't force them to care about whether he's making money.

Appointments with his accountant will soon be an unpleasant experience, even without a boycott.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
22. Is it true that Pizza Hut is willing to hire the workers from Papa John's?
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:08 PM
Nov 2012

I hope it is true, that would be amazing!

Down with Papa John's!!

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
26. Another thought ... without "going totally negative" ... why not just declare the Best Pizza
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:33 PM
Nov 2012

place in your town. Give them some free advertising...friends, family, organizations, etc. As a sidenote and "not selected" Papa John's or Godfather or whatever. Just make sure the preferred company isn't anti-gay or some other nonsense. No retail place of business or eating can ever get enough good advertising.

RosedaleGuy

(89 posts)
29. Papa John's customers are mostly young people
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:45 PM
Nov 2012

who elected the president. The Twitterverse should call for a boycott of Papa John's until he apologizes. He wants to punish the country for re-electing Obama but the country is far more able to punish him for his childish tantrum.

goblue316

(69 posts)
35. Union would be nice, but
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:21 PM
Nov 2012

We the people can help. We need to boycott and then turn around and support our local small businesses. We also need to back our President and push the government to push these big businesses to do their civic duty and provide health care insurance without whining. And when corporations start to layoff people we boycott till we can't boycott no more. We have been brainwashed into thinking we can not do with out Big Business, well that is wrong. They are not too big to fail!!

spooky3

(34,463 posts)
37. Yes, I was not suggesting it as either-or. We get natural pizza from a local
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:21 PM
Nov 2012

shop. We have had PJ's delivered before, but never again.

If "John" can't see the lack of logic in his own argument, or believes his customers cannot, he's not a very smart business person.

 

railsback

(1,881 posts)
33. How stupid is the Right?
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:13 PM
Nov 2012

Pretty damn stupid, reading those Facebook comments. They're argument is that Papa John's employs around 600 people in corporate, and that 2600 stores are independently run as franchises, so they can do what they want. If there are 2600 independently run U.S. stores out there, Schnatter is deliberately affecting their businesses to score political rightwing points. He personally doesn't have to worry about losing income. No big whoop to him. But all those small business owners who invested their own money and aren't making very big margins at all are going to lose a lot of income. The U.S. can do without turds like Schnatter. Pretty selfish.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
34. Just posted the following there:
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:16 PM
Nov 2012

What a piece of shit your CEO Schnatter is. Just like his shitty, heart-attack inducing pizza. Glad I don't own any shares of stock in this company or I'd be selling them pronto. Come to think of it, I may sell PZZA short on Monday.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
39. This might be a crazy thought
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:43 PM
Nov 2012

But instead of boycotting, what if people were to go out of their way to eat at Papa John's and add an extra 14 cents to their order, with a note that we support Obamacare and are willing to pay 14 cents more per pizza for it. I know it doesn't punish the owner, but it might send him a message and do more to support the workers.

I had a similar idea with Applebee's, but this might be even easier since he actually said how much it adds to the cost and it might send the message and cause the CEO to reconsider. I fear that if we boycott it might only cause more layoffs and thus feed into the story that Obamacare is hurting business and its workers.

Mr.Bill

(24,311 posts)
42. Go to their stores, order the cheapest single thing on the menu,
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:26 PM
Nov 2012

small soft drink? or whatever, then leave a $5 tip. Support the employees, not the business.

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