Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 12:46 PM Aug 2016

Trump's new aim: Poison a Clinton Presidency

The trick out of Brooklyn isn't just to make Hillary Clinton win but to make her win as something other than a brain-damaged crook who stole the election and will spend the next four years selling out the government from her deathbed.

The Clinton delegitimization project is now central to Donald Trump’s campaign and such a prime component of right-wing media that it’s already seeped beyond extremist chat rooms into “lock her up” chants on the convention floor, national news stories debating whether polls actually can be rigged, and voters puzzling over that photo they think they saw of her needing to be carried up the stairs.

The Clinton campaign has deliberately positioned its response as an offensive boomerang rather than a rebuttal: Don’t defend against the attacks, just redirect fire at the messenger. “It holds up a mirror to Donald Trump and what his campaign is about, and says everything you need to know about Donald Trump and where these kinds of crazy conspiracy theories are coming from,” as one campaign aide put it.

But the Democrat’s team is aware of how this might factor in beyond November.

“Some of the campaign and allies' conspiracies are designed to delegitimize her personally. Most are simply designed to spread fear and mistrust. And I am sure if she wins, the right wing will continue to spread these theories,” said Clinton senior adviser Jennifer Palmieri. Palmieri is in favor of ignoring most of the wackiness but warned: “Just because they may have zero basis in truth doesn't mean they can't be corrosive. So in this cycle I believe you have to call out the truly destructive theories calmly, but aggressively, and in real time.”


http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/trump-clinton-poison-conspiracy-227485
12 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
1. Palmier just said that the Clinton campaign will not be swift-boated without fighting back.
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 01:00 PM
Aug 2016

Kerry though everybody knew better, and that was his, and his campaign's, mistake. The Clinton campaign will attack those false statements and words like a rabid wolverine.

PatSeg

(47,430 posts)
11. That was my thought as well
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 11:44 AM
Aug 2016

Once a meme is put out there, no matter how absurd, it takes hold very quickly and doesn't let go. In ten years or so, some people will still repeat the initial lie as if it is accepted fact. Republicans are masters at this kind of messaging.

Kathy M

(1,242 posts)
3. Yup.... just look at the people Don is surrounding himself with .....
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 01:45 PM
Aug 2016

Bannon , everyone in Don 's campaign is comfortable with his tactics let alone Don himself pushing lies . Ailes , Manafort , Stone ,
Cory surrogates promote lies . Then Don hired Conway , wonder how long she has been working in the shadows since her husband was involved in smearing President Bill Clinton

" Conway isn't the only person in her family who has worked to take down the Clintons. Her husband, George T. Conway III, a lawyer at Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz, was behind some of the most bitter lawsuits against Bill Clinton in the 1990s and stories that were promoted via the Drudge Report."

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-08-18/kellyanne-conway-takes-on-toughest-role-yet-trump-whisperer

"As it turns out, some of the most serious damage to Bill Clinton's Presidency came not from his high-profile political enemies but from a small secret clique of lawyers in their 30's who share a deep antipathy toward the President, according to nearly two dozen interviews and recently filed court documents. "

"George T. Conway 3d, a New York lawyer educated at Yale, shared Marcus's low view of President Clinton. When the Jones case led to Ms. Lewinsky, Marcus and Conway searched for a new lawyer for Mrs. Tripp. Marcus and Porter helped arrange for Mrs. Tripp to take her explosive allegations to Starr.

Their effort are only now coming into focus, as a few of their associates have begun to discuss their activities and their names appear repeatedly in the final legal bills submitted by the original Jones legal team. Messrs. Marcus, Porter and Conway did not respond to numerous requests for comment. "

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/02/12/senate.statements/harkin.html

Wanted to add I know Hillary will fight back and expose lies ,

piechartking

(617 posts)
5. Everybody got a taste last week of the Clinton machine taking aim
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 01:46 PM
Aug 2016

And it made me feel a lot better. That coordinated social media tweet storm of related materials in sync with Clinton's speech, where she dropped the hammer, was awesome.

Also, they dropped two well-crafted ads hitting Trump hard on the racism and KKK angle. And honestly, could you argue it may have been a little "dirty", by tying Trump directly to the KKK? Sure! And you know what, the Clinton's can do "classy" dirty - they are playing three-dimensional chess while Trump plays checkers.

I really don't think the Trump campaign will even know what hit them.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
6. Nope. Trump is just pre-excusing his loss (or quitting).
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 02:39 PM
Aug 2016

Trump don't give a fuck about anything that ain't Trump.

CBHagman

(16,984 posts)
7. I think the media's already poised to poison a Clinton presidency.
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 11:33 PM
Aug 2016

Nothing has changed, let alone improved, since the "Just another failed president?" headlines during the first months of Bill Clinton's presidency. Attention spans are shorter, ad revenues are down, and controversy is the only song they know.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»Trump's new aim: Poison a...