2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumTrump's new aim: Poison a Clinton Presidency
The Clinton delegitimization project is now central to Donald Trumps campaign and such a prime component of right-wing media that its already seeped beyond extremist chat rooms into lock her up chants on the convention floor, national news stories debating whether polls actually can be rigged, and voters puzzling over that photo they think they saw of her needing to be carried up the stairs.
The Clinton campaign has deliberately positioned its response as an offensive boomerang rather than a rebuttal: Dont defend against the attacks, just redirect fire at the messenger. It holds up a mirror to Donald Trump and what his campaign is about, and says everything you need to know about Donald Trump and where these kinds of crazy conspiracy theories are coming from, as one campaign aide put it.
But the Democrats team is aware of how this might factor in beyond November.
Some of the campaign and allies' conspiracies are designed to delegitimize her personally. Most are simply designed to spread fear and mistrust. And I am sure if she wins, the right wing will continue to spread these theories, said Clinton senior adviser Jennifer Palmieri. Palmieri is in favor of ignoring most of the wackiness but warned: Just because they may have zero basis in truth doesn't mean they can't be corrosive. So in this cycle I believe you have to call out the truly destructive theories calmly, but aggressively, and in real time.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/trump-clinton-poison-conspiracy-227485
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)Kerry though everybody knew better, and that was his, and his campaign's, mistake. The Clinton campaign will attack those false statements and words like a rabid wolverine.
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)One thing I have never doubted about Hillary is her ability to fight back.
nolabear
(41,961 posts)PatSeg
(47,430 posts)Once a meme is put out there, no matter how absurd, it takes hold very quickly and doesn't let go. In ten years or so, some people will still repeat the initial lie as if it is accepted fact. Republicans are masters at this kind of messaging.
Kathy M
(1,242 posts)Bannon , everyone in Don 's campaign is comfortable with his tactics let alone Don himself pushing lies . Ailes , Manafort , Stone ,
Cory surrogates promote lies . Then Don hired Conway , wonder how long she has been working in the shadows since her husband was involved in smearing President Bill Clinton
" Conway isn't the only person in her family who has worked to take down the Clintons. Her husband, George T. Conway III, a lawyer at Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz, was behind some of the most bitter lawsuits against Bill Clinton in the 1990s and stories that were promoted via the Drudge Report."
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-08-18/kellyanne-conway-takes-on-toughest-role-yet-trump-whisperer
"As it turns out, some of the most serious damage to Bill Clinton's Presidency came not from his high-profile political enemies but from a small secret clique of lawyers in their 30's who share a deep antipathy toward the President, according to nearly two dozen interviews and recently filed court documents. "
"George T. Conway 3d, a New York lawyer educated at Yale, shared Marcus's low view of President Clinton. When the Jones case led to Ms. Lewinsky, Marcus and Conway searched for a new lawyer for Mrs. Tripp. Marcus and Porter helped arrange for Mrs. Tripp to take her explosive allegations to Starr.
Their effort are only now coming into focus, as a few of their associates have begun to discuss their activities and their names appear repeatedly in the final legal bills submitted by the original Jones legal team. Messrs. Marcus, Porter and Conway did not respond to numerous requests for comment. "
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/02/12/senate.statements/harkin.html
Wanted to add I know Hillary will fight back and expose lies ,
PatSeg
(47,430 posts)Thanks for the links.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)They try this BS every election.
piechartking
(617 posts)And it made me feel a lot better. That coordinated social media tweet storm of related materials in sync with Clinton's speech, where she dropped the hammer, was awesome.
Also, they dropped two well-crafted ads hitting Trump hard on the racism and KKK angle. And honestly, could you argue it may have been a little "dirty", by tying Trump directly to the KKK? Sure! And you know what, the Clinton's can do "classy" dirty - they are playing three-dimensional chess while Trump plays checkers.
I really don't think the Trump campaign will even know what hit them.
anamandujano
(7,004 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)Trump don't give a fuck about anything that ain't Trump.
riversedge
(70,214 posts)CBHagman
(16,984 posts)Nothing has changed, let alone improved, since the "Just another failed president?" headlines during the first months of Bill Clinton's presidency. Attention spans are shorter, ad revenues are down, and controversy is the only song they know.