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kurt_cagle

(534 posts)
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 05:33 PM Aug 2016

If Trump gets crushed, will the Dixiecrat/Tea Party/Alt-Right contingent get ejected by GOP?

The Alt-Right movement (which I believe is the mutated form of the Dixiecrats of the 1960s) has been dragging the GOP so far to the right right over the last fifty years that the GOP can no longer field a primary candidate that will win in the general election, and after 2020, when redistricting will occur with a much more favorable map for the Dems, will end up losing the House and Senate as well (assuming the Democrats don't take and keep the Senate this year and 2018).

The GOP doesn't have the demographics right now to remain competitive, but to get to a point where they do, I think the only thing they can do is jettison the tea party, and let if fall into third party obscurity. Anyone see it differently?

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JI7

(89,249 posts)
2. it would help in the long term to reject them
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 05:43 PM
Aug 2016

Because they would gain some minority voters which they will need if they want to last as a party.





Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
3. GOPE v. GOPar......it is a happening, after the 2016 debacle. Fox vs. Trump (Breitbart) media.
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 05:48 PM
Aug 2016

Buy popcorn stocks.

catbyte

(34,386 posts)
6. No, because as much as I'd like to think they have, I don't think they've hit rock bottom yet.
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 06:06 PM
Aug 2016

The Republicans still have enough of the population supporting them for another election cycle, maybe two, before the beast finally dies. The only way that the Republican party is going to change is if demographics change it. Their alleged"no holds barred autopsy" after the 2012 debacle went nowhere--they took exactly the wrong message and thought they needed to be MORE conservative. Until demographics overcome the rampant gerrymandering that went on after we Democrats threw our little temper tantrum in 2010 and allowed baggers to take control of waaaaaay too many states--including my own--things will continue to be grim. We bear some responsibility for this clusterfuck--this is what happens when we sit on our asses and don't vote. I HOPE we've learned our lesson.

Imperialism Inc.

(2,495 posts)
10. Yeah 2010 is the key.
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 07:55 PM
Aug 2016

The districts they drew up made it so that their biggest worries are someone running from the right in the primaries, not the general. Clinton may try to build a coalition with the traditional conservatives but I'm not sure it is going to work because of that.

no_hypocrisy

(46,101 posts)
7. This is what they should do to reorganize:
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 06:06 PM
Aug 2016

Let the ALT Right and Tea Party leave the Republican Party.

Try to woo back the Reagan Democrats, Corporate Democrats, DINO's. They'll return if policy changes are made.

But it can no longer be strictly movement conservatives running the party. Even returning to the Nixon republican party would be progressive.

duncang

(1,907 posts)
9. They can't fire themselves.
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 07:44 PM
Aug 2016

If they got rid of all of those people there would only be maybe 1 or 2 repub. politicians left and that may be stretching it.

TeamPooka

(24,226 posts)
11. Let's see, for the last two POTUS elections GOP/RNC issued reports afterwards that told them
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 08:14 PM
Aug 2016

if they want to win nationally again they need to lose the racism and persecution against Latinos and the rank and file responded with Trump as the nominee.
So the answer to your question is no.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
12. If the GOP thinks they can bounce back as they did in 1964 they are seriously misguided.
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 08:18 PM
Aug 2016

Goldwater, for all of his extreme positions at the time, was still a Republican and he remained a respected Senator and indeed the Republican Party eventually adopted many of his positions. But the GOP also inherited many Dixiecrats beginning in 1964 and Nixon was able to use that greatly to his advantage, particularly in 1972. But Trump is not really a Republican. And his loyal supporters are not moving into the Republican Party, they are moving away from it. They will also blame the GOP for Trump's defeat. It is going to be extremely difficult to put the Republican Party back together again and I would not be at all surprised if a Trump party does not emerge from the wreckage which will turn midterm elections in 2018 on their head - all bets will be off.

lastlib

(23,226 posts)
13. The mainstream GOP can't divorce the far-right base......
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 08:30 PM
Aug 2016

...because there is too much community property tied to them. Guns, taxes, abortion, government regulation, Obamacare, Clinton-dementia--both of them share all the same POVs on these matters; there really isn't that much separation between them. So a divorce would be messy, and neither one would have enough left afterwards to ever win another national election. I foresee them wandering in the electoral wilderness for another couple cycles before they come to their senses enough to put some of the nastiness aside to form a coalition capable of governing. The demographics have to change as well; they can no longer be the party of old white dudes and Christian absolutists and guns. They have to reach out to minorities and tie in to their aspirations and issues before they can break out of this death-spiral.

BigDemVoter

(4,150 posts)
14. Oh they can stay for a while & rampage around like bulls in a china shop
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 08:59 PM
Aug 2016

& make 100% CERTAIN that the GOP is tainted forever by that shit stain.

LeftRant

(524 posts)
15. Not openly. They'll try to limit their power though,and still seek their votes in the next election.
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 01:56 AM
Aug 2016

And you can bet your arse that the next GOP pres. nomination will have some extra rules, maybe even superdelegates.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
16. Not anytime soon. They need Trump's voters to win...
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 03:29 AM
Aug 2016

...so they'll try changing the primary rules to favor already-elected Republicans and cull outsiders.

It will still leave them open to their wackos within their system, like Ted Cruz.

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