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woodsprite

(11,924 posts)
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 09:41 AM Mar 2012

Concerned here in DE

I'm really concerned for this election. What do they say "The stupid, it burns" (or something like that). I'm friends on FB with a lot of my high school classmates (representing very white, lower-middle to mid-upper income families) and I continue to be amazed at how many have turned into freakin' freepers...and I mean totally went off the deep end of the gene pool. Sure, a couple of them as kids were able to be real jerks and those are ones that I'm not surprised about, but people that I never would have suspected have totally flipped and now have 'quivers full' of kids (one has 11!). I know 30 yrs can make a huge difference in people, but such an "about face" and so different from the families they were raised in.

I've always thought of Delaware as representing a less extreme mix of the general US population. Like our politicians, historically we didn't swing too far in either direction and tended to cross over frequently (too much in some cases). If this mix is a less extreme representation of the US, I'm very concerned.

This will be the first election my daughter will be eligible to vote in, so Pres Obama and VP Biden will get +3 from our family

How are things in other areas that you've observed?

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loudsue

(14,087 posts)
1. I'm really concerned here in NC about the same things.
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 09:50 AM
Mar 2012

I gave up on facebook a long time ago, because I went to high school in Texas, and that place is now crawling with freeperfreaks. But it seems like freeperisms have gone viral, and it's a cancer eating this country alive.

The rest of the world is witnessing what effective propaganda by the corporate controlled media can do to a once-great country. It makes me fearful and really sick.

no_hypocrisy

(46,182 posts)
2. Didn't Delaware Republicans nominate Christine O'Donnell?
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 09:50 AM
Mar 2012

I think that may be an indication of demographics by itself.

woodsprite

(11,924 posts)
6. O'Donnell's nomination was fueled much by the downstate
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 10:14 AM
Mar 2012

population. In NCC, it she seemed to garner the mega-church crowd - and apparently northern DE is also capable of supporting an increasing number of conservative/evangelical mega churches

There is complacency (just like everywhere else) in that if we think someone is acceptable, is an incumbant, and going to 'have it in the bag', people just don't go out to the polls. Everybody I talked to on the morning after thought there was no way Castle - a past Governor - could lose to that witch. I think many Delawareans woke up and felt like a brick hit them between the eyes.

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
3. I Am Concerned Too
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 09:54 AM
Mar 2012

I find some of the same things here in Colorado. I have played golf at a public golf course here in Colrado in the Denver area. You would think that I was at an exclusive country club the place is so racist and anti worker. I know a school principal, a former AT & T retiree, a long time former friend, a brewery worker who are so racist, bigoted and hateful that it is not even funny. They are all on pensions, Social Security, Medicare, etc etc. They hate Obama, hate Democrats, really hate unions and love Hannity, Beck and Limpballs. You cannot say a word around them as they bash Obama and everything else government. Most of the proshop is GOP and listen to that crap. All I hear is RW shit all the time. The brewery worker is yet to retire and complains about not having enough money yet. I will bet our men's club is at least 95% RW. We even had a new member join a couple named Al Gore of years ago and was booed when his was mentioned at our annual banquet. Almost all of these members are middle class or lower middle class workers.

I know one member who has NEVER voted for a Democrat who lost his job at Top Flite golf as a regional salesperson when it was bought out by Calloway (which might be owned by the mormons) and was fired. He lost his second job in golf sales in the recession. He is now working for $7 an hour in the pro shop part time with NO hope of another job at his age and health problems. He used to make big money.

So go figure. I am afraid people are too stupid. I put up with a lot of abuse because I am a Demcrat where I play. So I usually play alone early in the morning when I can.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
5. I think it is the effect of Fox News Network. The lies and hate make these people lemmings. Fox
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 10:14 AM
Mar 2012

News thanks to Murdock and Ailes are a cancer on this country. Then you got the churchs involved in politics and lies so what are these people going believe.

woodsprite

(11,924 posts)
7. Thankfully our church (over 350 yrs old) is liberal
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 10:31 AM
Mar 2012

We had an exodus of many of the conservatives a few years ago when we refused to renew those pastors' contracts (husband and wife team). Unfortunately, that took a lot of the young families. We're just starting to see the addition of some new young families to the mix.

We had another Presby church in the area who had a mass exodus of conservatives. They essentially 'divorced' the Presbytery early this year over the vote to accept gays in the ministry and left their established church in Wilmington, with the pastor leading the way, to find a church of their own. What's ironic is that minister has a gay son and a daughter who has had 3 kids out of wedlock. Hey, at least she's still married to the guy she was screwing around with on her first husband. Supposedly it was after that that she found religion and became a minister. I've known her since 1978 and I always figured it was because she spoke in a way she could make people believe anything AND pastoring is a lucrative business if you serve the right congregation. And she was DEFINITELY interested in serving the right congregation.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
8. Call It The FB Factor...
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 11:19 AM
Mar 2012

Were you on Facebook in 2008? Most of us weren't. Today we're in contact with old friends and acquaintances more than ever before. I've reconnected with people from all facets of my life and you see these people on a daily basis. I used to be lucky to call a friend once every 6 months. The intimate nature of FB lets people express feelings beyond what they would do in a one-on-one situation. Politics seems to be one of those "feelings".

I think this country has been so polarized for so long what we're seeing is the solidifying of positions. It's not that there are more freepers its there's more ways we see them.

SteveG

(3,109 posts)
10. I don't know where you live in DE
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 01:40 PM
Mar 2012

But I live in coastal Sussex, and it is (and has been) a hotbed of tea party activity, foaming at the mouth variety. I think DE is safe for the Dems this time, and I believe we will continue to hold all of statewide offices we do now. We might lose a couple of house and senate seats in Sussex, though Dems will still control both houses in the legislature.

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