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Related: About this forumBaton Rouge shooter Right Wing malitia group...
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On MSNBC now. He was a member of sovereign citizens a RW militia group.
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fun n serious
Jul 2016
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Some are saying Sovreign citizens (RW group) others saying BLM or Black Panthers MOvement... IDK
Southerncomfy
Jul 2016
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Southerncomfy
(117 posts)1. Some are saying Sovreign citizens (RW group) others saying BLM or Black Panthers MOvement... IDK
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(4,451 posts)2. Chuck Todd just said SC RW..
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Hoyt
(54,770 posts)3. He doesn't meet the "profile" of a Sovereign Citizen, but you never know.
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DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)4. here's what the FBI has to say about this group
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Southerncomfy
(117 posts)5. According to the Southern Poverty Law Center...
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/sovereign-citizens-movement
The movement is rooted in racism and anti-Semitism, though most sovereigns, many of whom are African American, are unaware of their beliefs' origins. In the early 1980s, the sovereign citizens movement mostly attracted white supremacists and anti-Semites, mainly because sovereign theories originated in groups that saw Jews as working behind the scenes to manipulate financial institutions and control the government. Most early sovereigns, and some of those who are still on the scene, believed that being white was a prerequisite to becoming a sovereign citizen. They argued that the 14th Amendment to the Constitution, which guaranteed citizenship to African Americans and everyone else born on U.S. soil, also made black Americans permanently subject to federal and state governments, unlike themselves.
The Sovereign Belief System
The contemporary sovereign belief system is based on a decades-old conspiracy theory. At some point in history, sovereigns believe, the American government set up by the founding fathers with a legal system the sovereigns refer to as "common law" was secretly replaced by a new government system based on admiralty law, the law of the sea and international commerce. Under common law, or so they believe, the sovereigns would be free men. Under admiralty law, they are slaves, and secret government forces have a vested interest in keeping them that way.
The movement is rooted in racism and anti-Semitism, though most sovereigns, many of whom are African American, are unaware of their beliefs' origins. In the early 1980s, the sovereign citizens movement mostly attracted white supremacists and anti-Semites, mainly because sovereign theories originated in groups that saw Jews as working behind the scenes to manipulate financial institutions and control the government. Most early sovereigns, and some of those who are still on the scene, believed that being white was a prerequisite to becoming a sovereign citizen. They argued that the 14th Amendment to the Constitution, which guaranteed citizenship to African Americans and everyone else born on U.S. soil, also made black Americans permanently subject to federal and state governments, unlike themselves.
The Sovereign Belief System
The contemporary sovereign belief system is based on a decades-old conspiracy theory. At some point in history, sovereigns believe, the American government set up by the founding fathers with a legal system the sovereigns refer to as "common law" was secretly replaced by a new government system based on admiralty law, the law of the sea and international commerce. Under common law, or so they believe, the sovereigns would be free men. Under admiralty law, they are slaves, and secret government forces have a vested interest in keeping them that way.
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(3,967 posts)6. We win!
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(4,451 posts)7. Someone is playing games with facebook
2 profiles. One black one white... White one is real. Black profile was created about an hour ago and 1 obviouly backdated post
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Southerncomfy
(117 posts)8. I saw the same thing... people are SO F******G stupid to fall for this
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(7,813 posts)10. If that's the case, then why? Trying to start a civil war? Trying to give police reason to
gear up for war in the streets?
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Chemisse
(30,811 posts)11. Locking
This is not election news. Please post in GD.
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