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KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 11:07 PM Jul 2016

Clinton's Facebook page shared a post from the Sanders campaign Facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/hillaryclinton/posts/1182372725152588

I'd say that is probably a good indicator that an endorsement is imminent. This was shared an hour ago and the talk about a joint appearance was circulated a few hours before that, so the timing is very telling.
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Clinton's Facebook page shared a post from the Sanders campaign Facebook page (Original Post) KingFlorez Jul 2016 OP
Unity around the corner? Oh the horror to the haters on both sides. bklyncowgirl Jul 2016 #1
Cris Hayes said Tuesday was a possible target. Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #2
Thank God!!! Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #3
Trump can win for two reasons Eric J in MN Jul 2016 #4
"Trump has charisma" sufrommich Jul 2016 #5
I'm serious. Other real estate developers Eric J in MN Jul 2016 #11
Jim Bakker had that same kind of charisma. Some people LIKE unhinged buffoons. randome Jul 2016 #29
Do men find him charismatic? Most women are repulsed. bettyellen Jul 2016 #6
And the more numerous LoverOfLiberty Jul 2016 #15
Yep! And thank god for that! bettyellen Jul 2016 #33
Trump won the Republican nomination despite Eric J in MN Jul 2016 #17
I think they find his lifestyle appealing and the fact that he has no filter must appeal bettyellen Jul 2016 #32
+1000! DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #20
I agree with that. Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #10
Right, he does, but he is disliked and rejected Hortensis Jul 2016 #18
A better way to pay for college was never the issue between Hillary and Bernie... Sancho Jul 2016 #7
Thanks Sancho. A reason I voted Clinton. Her plans are more thought out avoiding hidden seabeyond Jul 2016 #9
Giving grants to Red States Govenors was not a good plan. As you said=look what happened to riversedge Jul 2016 #12
Expanding Pell Grants is a good idea... Sancho Jul 2016 #14
Should we means-test K-12 public schools? NT Eric J in MN Jul 2016 #19
YES...or else provide EQUAL education for all. Sancho Jul 2016 #28
The platform debate is coming to a close. Most likely Sanders will make an endorsement afterwards, Chathamization Jul 2016 #8
That's some crazy misplaced irrelevance. JTFrog Jul 2016 #16
"His endorsement is irrelevent, but we're really concerned that he hasn't done it yet! He doesn't Chathamization Jul 2016 #21
+1 (NT) Eric J in MN Jul 2016 #24
Nobody is "concerned" anymore. JTFrog Jul 2016 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #26
Sanders who? NurseJackie Jul 2016 #13
Sanders is the one with favorability Eric J in MN Jul 2016 #23
LOL! JTFrog Jul 2016 #27
The majority of Americans have a favorable opinion Eric J in MN Jul 2016 #30
Those that have heard of him. JTFrog Jul 2016 #31
Oh ... you mean the one who didn't get nominated? :-P NurseJackie Jul 2016 #34
I'll believe it when I see it DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #22

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
3. Thank God!!!
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 06:37 AM
Jul 2016

We need unity. We have to go all out to beat Trump. Some act like he is a joke and can't win. But I am not so sure. Fear sells...we need to politically bury Trump under a pile of truth...he is a bigoted, war-mongering incompetent who would destroy our country...for thirty years or more between dangerous policies and the courts.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
4. Trump can win for two reasons
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 06:48 AM
Jul 2016

- The country is so partisan now that any major party nominee has a floor of 40% in the general presidential election.

- Trump has charisma.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
11. I'm serious. Other real estate developers
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 08:12 AM
Jul 2016

...weren't featured in NY tabloids in the 1990s, and as reality TV stars from 2004-2015.

With regard to his being "unhinged" that could also be described as unpredictability which is part of his charisma.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
29. Jim Bakker had that same kind of charisma. Some people LIKE unhinged buffoons.
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 09:17 AM
Jul 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
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Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
17. Trump won the Republican nomination despite
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 08:30 AM
Jul 2016

...Jeb Bush being the expected nominee, Jeb Bush's Super PAC having raised over $100 million, and Trump having a mixed record on taking conservative positions.

There must be a significant number of men who think Trump has charisma.



 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
32. I think they find his lifestyle appealing and the fact that he has no filter must appeal
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 11:27 AM
Jul 2016

To some assholes who are sick of having to hide their assholery. I don't know if that adds up to charisma. He's such a dork to boot.

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
10. I agree with that.
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 08:01 AM
Jul 2016

Trump has loyal backers (first time bigots have a candidate who gets them, one issue voters (pro-gun or anti-choice) some disaffected American workers in all fairness). I still believe given demographics we have a good chance to win, but let's not get all 'we have got this prematurely".

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. Right, he does, but he is disliked and rejected
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 08:34 AM
Jul 2016

by large, usually majority, blocs of right-wing voters. The questions, of course, are how many will vote for him, Hillary, neither and how many will stay home on November 8 altogether.

You're right, though. Never underestimate the fear and disgust most conservatives have been trained to feel when they think of what Democrats will finish doing to the country. Obama has almost destroyed it, driving many conservatives so crazy that they've run into Trump's arms in fear (who can blame them?), and it just needs a little push from the left to collapse entirely.

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
7. A better way to pay for college was never the issue between Hillary and Bernie...
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 07:48 AM
Jul 2016

the main differences were...

1.) Hillary didn't want the rich to get the same break as regular folks.
2.) Hillary didn't want to pay for college by taxing public employee and union negotiated retirements.
3.) Hillary wanted to hold states accountable so they didn't milk the federal budget.
4.) Hillary wanted to protect social justice (like HBCUs and tuition equity and admission of undocumented)

Bernie simply wanted "free tuition" paid for by an FTT - something that educator unions wholeheartedly rejected.

Paying for college by removing tax loopholes of the rich, requiring means testing, and holding state governments feet to the fire are all in Hillary's original plan.

I think that everyone knows, just like Medicaid, some states will not go along with a federal plan to provide tuition relief for higher education no matter how good the deal is for their students.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
9. Thanks Sancho. A reason I voted Clinton. Her plans are more thought out avoiding hidden
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 07:59 AM
Jul 2016

obstructions and leveling the field. Not starting on an unlevel playing field.

riversedge

(70,220 posts)
12. Giving grants to Red States Govenors was not a good plan. As you said=look what happened to
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 08:14 AM
Jul 2016

Medicaid!!

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
14. Expanding Pell Grants is a good idea...
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 08:25 AM
Jul 2016

but states set tuition rates. If you give them grants, they just take the money and run.

Also, FTTs tax the large state retirement funds (invested on Wall Street), so the loss will be paid for by state employees and union negotiated retirement benefits.

Finally, none of the "free tuition" helps the undocumented (millions of people) brought to the US as children, because some states (like Vermont) don't have admissions and tuition equity for non-citizens. Also, families of the undocumented can't apply for the "free tuition" because they don't have SS#s, tax records, etc.

HBCUs are often PRIVATE, but represent many of the best opportunities for minorities.

In short, tuition should come from CLOSING TAX LOOPHOLES. Tuition should be means tested.

Children raised in the US should have an automatic path to citizenship and equal opportunity to attend college!

Money to pay for college should be earned (by working through school) and delivered to the student - not funneled through red state legislatures.

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
28. YES...or else provide EQUAL education for all.
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 09:08 AM
Jul 2016

My wife and I are in our 40th year as educators at all levels in three states.

Public schools are unequal and the rich get richer. It would be fine with me to not only make the gated communities pay more, but they should share the wealth with those who get substandard education. Charter schools are one way to steal from the poor and enhance the wealthy. It goes on and on.

http://www.tampabay.com/projects/2015/investigations/pinellas-failure-factories/

Chathamization

(1,638 posts)
8. The platform debate is coming to a close. Most likely Sanders will make an endorsement afterwards,
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 07:59 AM
Jul 2016

being able to say to his base "See? The Democratic party isn't perfect, but it's still our best hope for pushing a progressive agenda." People have been saying this for a while. An endorsement based upon policy rather than simply based on "well, I lost, so might as well endorse" is going to have more of an impact on Sanders supporters.

I imagine some people sense this is coming to a close, since we're seeing an uptick in the "OMG WHY HASN'T HE ENDORSED YET" concern trolling posts (even some from people saying his endorsement wouldn't matter). Those will probably become irrelevant very soon.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
16. That's some crazy misplaced irrelevance.
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 08:30 AM
Jul 2016

His endorsement doesn't matter anymore. He is late to the party again.



Chathamization

(1,638 posts)
21. "His endorsement is irrelevent, but we're really concerned that he hasn't done it yet! He doesn't
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 08:46 AM
Jul 2016

matter, but we can't stop creating topics about him!"

Indeed.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
25. Nobody is "concerned" anymore.
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 08:54 AM
Jul 2016

Like I said, late to the party.

That doesn't mean people will just stop talking about him. I think people really just want him to face the fact that he lost and to stop bashing Democrats and focus on Trump. Loser's don't get to call the shots.

His endorsement at this point is probably expected, but it also seems pretty meaningless considering his negativity.



Response to JTFrog (Reply #16)

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
27. LOL!
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 09:00 AM
Jul 2016

That 15 percent is pretty much made up in those that have never heard of him or have no opinion.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
31. Those that have heard of him.
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 09:18 AM
Jul 2016

Or have an opinion. 14% of people haven't or don't.

Just going by your own link.

I think by this time next year he will be back where he was beginning of last year in the polls with more than half of Americans not knowing who he is.

I think that would have been different if he hadn't been so negative after losing.



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