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Did you have your nap yet? nt Bonobo May 2016 #1
Yes I did. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #9
All campaigns make stupid errors. At least Sanders (self) didn't raise the specter of assassination. TheBlackAdder May 2016 #29
I remember that. It was unfortunate Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #36
Member since: Mon May 16, 2016, 10:02 PM chascarrillo May 2016 #120
Welcome to DU!! Jack Bone May 2016 #133
I am a few years younger than Bernie and I couldn't tell you the lyrics to any rap song Vinca May 2016 #2
So, its ok because you can't make out the lyrics? Sheepshank May 2016 #6
Did I say that? No. Stop distorting my words. Vinca May 2016 #11
Yes, you pretty much said that. Sheepshank May 2016 #14
No, I didn't "pretty much say that." Vinca May 2016 #18
How pathetic it is to deliberately "misunderstand" what someone else is saying. 5th grade stuff. bjo59 May 2016 #88
+ 1000. Often they start with *So...* n/t JimDandy May 2016 #97
It's not an isolated occasion. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #15
If you're such a rap fan, why don't you email the rap artist to let him know how offensive it is? Vinca May 2016 #20
I'm sure thats what you would do if it were Hillary Gomez163 May 2016 #26
His "advance" people should be fired. They should be looking at every detail at these rallies. kerry-is-my-prez May 2016 #27
Hungry? bobbobbins01 May 2016 #3
Holy crap Sheepshank May 2016 #4
Lol. Pretty bad. I'm trying to imagine Bernie Hortensis May 2016 #32
Very, very bad messaging. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #5
I agree. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #54
If he fires the people responsible, I would be more inclined to believe an appology Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #56
With Killer Mike on the team, one would have thought the words would have been reviewed Sheepshank May 2016 #122
I doubt he specifically chose the music. MineralMan May 2016 #7
It's not an isolated occasion. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #12
That's very disturbing to hear. MineralMan May 2016 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #19
You're welcome Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #21
At least he hasn't accused us of being child molesters. n/t QC May 2016 #95
Real bad choice, and it doesn't matter of "he" choose the song or not Iliyah May 2016 #13
I agree 100%. MineralMan May 2016 #17
Read the comments on the link Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #23
^^^^^^^^^ Peacetrain May 2016 #42
Lol. A "Tubman" says he'll file a lawsuit against someone. Hortensis May 2016 #46
It's got a good beat and it's easy to dance to..... Brother Buzz May 2016 #31
LOL! It was probably chosen because MineralMan May 2016 #38
It appears to be a fake. thesquanderer May 2016 #113
File under: things a well-organized campaign shouldn't let happen. CrowCityDem May 2016 #8
Right workinclasszero May 2016 #10
Trashing Thread duplicate post B Calm May 2016 #22
Shows that BS really isn't ready for Prime Time ... n/t SFnomad May 2016 #24
He has one crappy "advance team," that's for sure. kerry-is-my-prez May 2016 #30
The video has been debunked AgingAmerican May 2016 #139
And Hillary receives millions from people who, you know...actually kill gays. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #25
and allowed them weapons deals through her Foundation to cluster bomb small children. nt. polly7 May 2016 #71
Exactly. It's impossible to pin moral bankruptcy on Bernie but they keep trying! bjo59 May 2016 #91
Yep. One's a case of bad optics. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #100
Why do you hate strong women? QC May 2016 #96
Self loathing! Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #98
If a Republican did it, we'd be calling for their head Blue_Adept May 2016 #28
So true. Hillary derangement syndrome is completely Hortensis May 2016 #65
Killer Mike is a misogynist homophobe as well. CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #33
Desperate for colored faces despite their controvery. Cornell West? nt BootinUp May 2016 #43
Ring a ding ding CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #49
12 NC Democrats voted for the hateful 'bathroom bill'. They have all endorsed Hillary and she's Bluenorthwest May 2016 #123
Some of the socially conservative AAs who support Clinton are homophobes too Armstead May 2016 #47
Killer Mike has supported marriage equality longer than Hillary. DemocraticWing May 2016 #103
He's used homophobic slurs repeatedly in his "music" CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #104
He apologized. Hillary Clinton made a whole speech about how gay marriage was icky. DemocraticWing May 2016 #106
But why did he use them in the first place? CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #108
He was socialilized into a heterosexist/homophobic culture and did not reject it soon enough. DemocraticWing May 2016 #109
"He was socialized into a heterosexist/homophobic culture" CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #110
America's culture is heterosexist and homophobic. All of it. DemocraticWing May 2016 #112
What!!! There was a screw up in a campaign?????? LAS14 May 2016 #34
Disgusting, he's not even being subtle anymore. George II May 2016 #35
so tell us brave Tavarious was this DMX rap popular? azurnoir May 2016 #37
Everything in political rallies is thoroughly planned. TwilightZone May 2016 #51
so you admit it was popular? but the video evidence shows clearly it was overdubbed onto the vid azurnoir May 2016 #67
Donald Trump is popular. Should Bernie start promoting him at his rallies? TwilightZone May 2016 #68
well it was a mistake to overdub a rap onto a video and then attempt to claim azurnoir May 2016 #72
This is such a bullshit accusation you are making. leftinportland May 2016 #39
I know one thing. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #52
YES. Someone specifically chooses the song played when the candidate ENTERS. pnwmom May 2016 #60
Or someone sliced the song onto the video... leftinportland May 2016 #121
He's too busy with his campaign to WhiteTara May 2016 #40
That's why he has campaign staff. TwilightZone May 2016 #58
That DMX song is blatantly homophobic oberliner May 2016 #41
So tell me Tavarious Uponthegears May 2016 #44
What? Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #48
Maybe DMX Uponthegears May 2016 #59
Actually it never ends Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #62
Tripe Uponthegears May 2016 #69
She sure does catnhatnh May 2016 #119
You are not the person to declare the quality of her relationship is with the LGBT community. JudyM May 2016 #64
A terrible mistake....But that's all it is Armstead May 2016 #45
I think it's great that you have a three-day weekend from middle school. mac56 May 2016 #50
Yet another accusation that someone is being paid to post? MineralMan May 2016 #66
There. mac56 May 2016 #74
Thanks. You turned a personal attack that MineralMan May 2016 #77
LOL. The irony. nt. polly7 May 2016 #82
You're welcome. Anytime. mac56 May 2016 #83
There's another "paid to post" accusation further downthread. mac56 May 2016 #126
Killer Mike's music wasn't available? brooklynite May 2016 #53
I guess not Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #55
KMart"s Bargain Bin was closed itsrobert May 2016 #89
I'm not hearing those lyrics in this 42 second clip Laughing Mirror May 2016 #57
I'm not sure. It was also on BET. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #61
Well where's the clip with those lyrics? Laughing Mirror May 2016 #63
It's an anti-gay song. Just because the entire song wasn't played doesn't make it any less anti-gay TwilightZone May 2016 #70
Well they played the anthem part of the song because it's rousing Laughing Mirror May 2016 #73
Ok, got it. It's a "rousing" anti-gay song so it's ok. TwilightZone May 2016 #75
The part I heard does not sound anti-gay Laughing Mirror May 2016 #78
The trick is to only ever play the Kidz Bop version. Nye Bevan May 2016 #76
Two posts about this within four minutes of each other with almost exactly the same subject line. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #79
Right? truebrit71 May 2016 #129
Looks like yet another smear Bjorn Against May 2016 #80
Member since: Mon May 16, 2016, 10:02 PM chascarrillo May 2016 #81
A full month after the first influx. bunnies May 2016 #135
Second wave. frylock May 2016 #151
I knew it! Sanders is a right-wing gangster organizing a gang of anti-gay, racist, sexist thugs. imagine2015 May 2016 #84
yes, I'm positive Bernie picked that rap for just that reason.... he's a HUGE rap fan Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #85
And besides that he's a gangster! Good point. imagine2015 May 2016 #86
Bernie is the OG!!! Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #90
The story has been updated and there is some question as to whether the music was genuine. Ash_F May 2016 #87
The best part is that most people who have already read your OP will not see this post. Ash_F May 2016 #92
This is even more pathetic than "chairs were thrown" bunnies May 2016 #93
It's fake. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #111
Is your claim Sanders chose this song? Perogie May 2016 #94
I still can not discount it Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #114
I'd never believe you or anyone on the 'they threw chairs and bottles' campaign for so many Bluenorthwest May 2016 #136
Embarrassing fail. nt. polly7 May 2016 #99
If you don't have anything better to to... dchill May 2016 #101
Sanders uses an offensive song and Hillaryites come unglued. Hillary's entire fucking career CBGLuthier May 2016 #102
Poor dear you must be exhausted. I watched a clip and I didn't hear that. Autumn May 2016 #105
It's right here Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #115
Must be a shitload of different versions of this guy walking out. Take a nap sweetie Autumn May 2016 #118
You get paid to post that? B Calm May 2016 #107
No. Bernie should just apologize instead of hiding it... Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #116
The video is faked leftinportland May 2016 #117
Oh, TJ got punk'd again? hellofromreddit May 2016 #125
Sure looks faked up to me, and it comes from folks who said 'that's not Bernie in those photos' Bluenorthwest May 2016 #124
Except he didn't.. truebrit71 May 2016 #127
Wait -- Democrats who can't clap in time to a beat? mainer May 2016 #128
That's the biggest tell, really. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #131
Now let's see. Who has a motive to smear Bernie. Could it be... mainer May 2016 #130
Exploitative liars are a toxin. Bluenorthwest May 2016 #132
Welcome to DU Paulie May 2016 #134
Nah, not a fluke or mistake. Ratfucking. riderinthestorm May 2016 #137
They have been plastering this all over DU in grand Capehart style, truth and common sense Bluenorthwest May 2016 #138
Yup. Classic example of catapulting the propaganda... riderinthestorm May 2016 #142
It's exploitative of LGBT and in essence an act of hate. Bluenorthwest May 2016 #144
I'm really sorry BNW. Its despicable crap. They know it riderinthestorm May 2016 #147
What is your evidence of that? oberliner May 2016 #141
Shrug. Pick any of the shitty memes: chairs thrown, violent Bernie supporters riderinthestorm May 2016 #143
The YouTube video was posted by a Bernie supporter oberliner May 2016 #145
I'm too cynical anymore oberliner riderinthestorm May 2016 #148
Understood oberliner May 2016 #150
Not fail, and lies are toxic Iliyah May 2016 #140
Discredited story. Can find videos from Fox of same Lancaster event with no music as Sanders enters. highprincipleswork May 2016 #146
Way to build your credibility here, whoever you are. DISPROVED JudyM May 2016 #149
The optics when Hillary loses California are going to be just terrible. frylock May 2016 #152
HILLARY CLINTON AVOIDS REPORTERS' QUESTIONS Warren DeMontague May 2016 #153
I first saw this in the Bernie group or video and multimedia bravenak May 2016 #154
Except, it's a lie. Someone dubbed the song on the video. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #156
It was a lie spread by his own fans then bravenak May 2016 #157
LIE. Total fabrication. WTF is your problem??? cui bono May 2016 #155

TheBlackAdder

(28,261 posts)
29. All campaigns make stupid errors. At least Sanders (self) didn't raise the specter of assassination.
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:04 PM
May 2016

.



Things really get going after the 7 min. mark...


Dissing MLK, Jessie Jackson, Rev. Wright, favoring McCain over Obama, etc., and her allusion to assassination.






She partially atoned for her actions, but KXL, Big Money, Big Oil, etc. gives me reservations.

I will vote Democratic, no matter who the nominee is, but I struggle now to stay uncommitted.


Who is she really, inside? I don't think anyone of us really knows!


.
 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
36. I remember that. It was unfortunate
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:11 PM
May 2016

This is not 1 time for Bernie. Read the comments in the link for more information.

Vinca

(50,334 posts)
2. I am a few years younger than Bernie and I couldn't tell you the lyrics to any rap song
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:42 PM
May 2016

for a million dollar prize. For starters, even if you listen to it, you usually can't make out what they're saying. If this is, indeed, what the lyrics say, you ought to email Bernie's campaign and tell them so they'll stop playing it.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
6. So, its ok because you can't make out the lyrics?
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:44 PM
May 2016

Too bad there are only 3 songs in this world to choose from.

Vinca

(50,334 posts)
11. Did I say that? No. Stop distorting my words.
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:47 PM
May 2016

I suggested the poster alert Bernie's campaign about the lyrics. I'm 100% positive if that's what the lyrics are and Bernie is made aware of them they won't be played again. You can accuse Bernie of many things, but he's not a bigot.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
14. Yes, you pretty much said that.
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:49 PM
May 2016

"....starters, even if you listen to it, you usually can't make out what they're saying. If this is, indeed, what the lyrics say,"

Vinca

(50,334 posts)
18. No, I didn't "pretty much say that."
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:51 PM
May 2016

You seem to be tag teaming with the person who posted this and trying to see who can do the best job bashing Bernie. It isn't working.

Vinca

(50,334 posts)
20. If you're such a rap fan, why don't you email the rap artist to let him know how offensive it is?
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:53 PM
May 2016

You must be good for something other than Bernie bashing.

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
27. His "advance" people should be fired. They should be looking at every detail at these rallies.
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:03 PM
May 2016

When I was an advance person for a presidential candidate, we looked at every single detail from the music, to the lighting, the podium placement, the signage.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
4. Holy crap
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:42 PM
May 2016

...and for all of those that attacked/rudely responded to me for calling Bernie tone deaf...here's a big old raspberry back at you.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
32. Lol. Pretty bad. I'm trying to imagine Bernie
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:10 PM
May 2016

trying to make out the words of a rap song at any time, tone deaf or otherwise. The thought's worth a chuckle anyway. But perhaps I wrong him.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
122. With Killer Mike on the team, one would have thought the words would have been reviewed
Sat May 28, 2016, 03:55 PM
May 2016

It's not like there are only 5-6 songs available on this planet to chose from. I'm thinking sloppy choices in a mad rush to cater to the younger folk.

MineralMan

(146,351 posts)
7. I doubt he specifically chose the music.
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:45 PM
May 2016

That's very unfortunate, though, that such a thing was played. I wonder who did choose it? Ugly stuff, indeed.

MineralMan

(146,351 posts)
16. That's very disturbing to hear.
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:50 PM
May 2016

I'm not viewing any political rallies, so I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for the heads-up.

Response to MineralMan (Reply #16)

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
13. Real bad choice, and it doesn't matter of "he" choose the song or not
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:48 PM
May 2016

Apologize or will his camp blame DWS, DNC and HRC.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
46. Lol. A "Tubman" says he'll file a lawsuit against someone.
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:15 PM
May 2016

Easy bet.

Seriously, of course someone other than him chose it, and I'm just amazed the person in charge could be that negligent. That is the obvious answer and most probable, but could someone who doesn't like him have played a dirty trick?

MineralMan

(146,351 posts)
38. LOL! It was probably chosen because
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:11 PM
May 2016

it appeals to the "young people." I doubt anyone in charge of the music selections had even bothered to listen to the lyrics. It's that "hip hop" music "young people" seem to like. That's the way that stuff sort of goes. Still, it's very sad that more attention was not paid to the content of the music.

If this gets a lot of publicity, it's not going to be good news for the Sanders campaign. But, I don't really think that matters any more. There's no longer a path to the nomination for Bernie Sanders. Not even a narrow, dangerous path. It's too bad he's going out this way, though.

thesquanderer

(12,001 posts)
113. It appears to be a fake.
Sat May 28, 2016, 03:11 PM
May 2016

From the link:

UPDATE: This story gets weirder and weirder. A journalist friend pointed out to me that he found some video from the Sanders campaign (via ABC), from the same event, that uses different music than the DMX song. I’m including that video below.

But things get even stranger than that. There’s live Fox News video of the same event that includes no music whatsoever. (The Fox tape goes mute at one point, but when it’s not muted there should be music, like there is on the Sanders campaign tape, and there isn’t.)

So there are three different videos of the “same” event. Now, is it possible these are different events in California on the same day, using the same actors and the same backdrop? Yes. But still, this is very strange.


But also to the OP's point: "I don't know how you can support him after this." Seriously? Even IF there was some campaign screwup with offensive song lyrics (which it appears there was NOT), is a supporter really going to stop supporting him as a result? I mean seriously, does ANYONE think that in his heart of heart, Bernie really wants to shoot the gays? This is just silly.
 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
139. The video has been debunked
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:29 PM
May 2016

The original is available online.

Hillary supporters have been duped again.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
100. Yep. One's a case of bad optics.
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:21 PM
May 2016

The other's a case of a cozy relationship with homophobic murderers.

Blue_Adept

(6,402 posts)
28. If a Republican did it, we'd be calling for their head
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:04 PM
May 2016

If Hillary's campaign had done it, I can't even imagine the outrage level.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
65. So true. Hillary derangement syndrome is completely
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:34 PM
May 2016

incompatible with a sense of humor.

The idea of an elderly, cranky Sanders being heralded with rap music is distracting me, though, away from my core liberal rage.

I know a lot of old men and exactly one who gave it a chance and won't swipe at the radio the instant it comes on. In Sanders' case, it'd be blaring from the time he arrived until his theme music for entering the stage started. And absolutely no sense of humor to help him through it.

Too funny. It's making me wish I'd gone to one of his rallies out of curiosity, but too late now.

 

CorkySt.Clair

(1,507 posts)
33. Killer Mike is a misogynist homophobe as well.
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:10 PM
May 2016

Berners totally embraced him...until he became an embarrassment. Then he might as well have been in the witness protection program.

 

CorkySt.Clair

(1,507 posts)
49. Ring a ding ding
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:18 PM
May 2016

We have a bingo. West is there as a part of the Berner campaign because he's great at slurring president Obama, a favorite Berner pastime. All because he didn't get the seats he wanted T the inauguration in 2009.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
123. 12 NC Democrats voted for the hateful 'bathroom bill'. They have all endorsed Hillary and she's
Sat May 28, 2016, 03:58 PM
May 2016

not distanced herself from them. Officials with votes. So called Democrats.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
47. Some of the socially conservative AAs who support Clinton are homophobes too
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:17 PM
May 2016

That's the problem, with "demographic" campaigning. No group is monolithic.

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
103. Killer Mike has supported marriage equality longer than Hillary.
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:33 PM
May 2016

Smearing black people as homophobic is a common racist canard meant to divide oppressed groups. It's disgusting, false, and it's outrageous that it happens by the 'woke' Hillary supporters that abuse the language of social justice to support their candidate.

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
106. He apologized. Hillary Clinton made a whole speech about how gay marriage was icky.
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:46 PM
May 2016

She refuses to apologize for that and literally shouted at somebody who asked her to at a town hall.

 

CorkySt.Clair

(1,507 posts)
108. But why did he use them in the first place?
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:48 PM
May 2016

We're all aware of his ham handed apology, and the fact that he's been MIA since these lyrics came to light at the end of February.

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
109. He was socialilized into a heterosexist/homophobic culture and did not reject it soon enough.
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:54 PM
May 2016

But he apologized and he's repeatedly called on people to accept LGBT people for upwards of a decade. I don't forgive this shit easy, I know what it feels like to be called a fag and go home at night and cry myself to sleep because people hate me for what I am. But Killer Mike isn't a homophobe anymore. He's had a lot of work to do to make up for that, and maybe he's not done, but I'll give him (or hell, for that matter Hillary too) credit for doing good works to make up for the bad.

I also recognize that you keep saying "music" in a derisive way, implying that Killer Mike's stuff is not real music. Run the Jewels put out what in my opinion is one of the best rap albums of the last five years though, and if you don't think rap is real music, then it's ridiculous to even discuss this with you.

 

CorkySt.Clair

(1,507 posts)
110. "He was socialized into a heterosexist/homophobic culture"
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:58 PM
May 2016

But I thought you wrote that this was a myth and a dog whistle?

Which is it?

Actually don't bother. Killer Mike is a clown, Bernie's not going to be the nominee and you're putting me to sleep.

We're done here.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
37. so tell us brave Tavarious was this DMX rap popular?
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:11 PM
May 2016

and the reason I say brave is because if you watch the video it becomes very very obvious the song was dubbed in

TwilightZone

(25,517 posts)
51. Everything in political rallies is thoroughly planned.
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:20 PM
May 2016

This was a conscious decision, albeit probably by someone who had no idea what the lyrics said or bothered to find out.

They just used it because it was popular. Doesn't excuse it.

TwilightZone

(25,517 posts)
68. Donald Trump is popular. Should Bernie start promoting him at his rallies?
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:37 PM
May 2016

Just acknowledge that it was a stupid mistake and move on. This incessant need to explain away dumb mistakes the campaign makes - and they all makes mistakes, mind you - is misguided, at best.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
72. well it was a mistake to overdub a rap onto a video and then attempt to claim
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:41 PM
May 2016

that it represents Bernie, I'll give you that

leftinportland

(247 posts)
39. This is such a bullshit accusation you are making.
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:11 PM
May 2016

Been to several Sanders rallies and to many other political rallies...venues open long before rally begins and music is played...kinda like music played in an elevator or supermarkets.

You actually think someone from the campaign picked the song specifically? Pretty naive of you...this service is contracted out.

pnwmom

(109,025 posts)
60. YES. Someone specifically chooses the song played when the candidate ENTERS.
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:29 PM
May 2016

Last edited Sat May 28, 2016, 04:04 PM - Edit history (1)

That is an important moment. And they also have to check to make sure they have permission to play music at any event -- there can be a fee involved.

TwilightZone

(25,517 posts)
58. That's why he has campaign staff.
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:27 PM
May 2016

Everything in political rallies is planned, so someone in his camp most likely chose the song. They probably picked it because it was popular and had no idea what the lyrics said.

Doesn't excuse it. His staff is supposed to ensure that things like this *not* happen.

 

Uponthegears

(1,499 posts)
44. So tell me Tavarious
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:14 PM
May 2016

Is DMX not Hillary's kind of person of color?

Is artistic expression one of those increments of privilege that rap performers just need to wait for?

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
48. What?
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:18 PM
May 2016

Hillary has a great relationship with black and minorities, LGBT, .. She has a very diverse campaign

 

Uponthegears

(1,499 posts)
59. Maybe DMX
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:29 PM
May 2016

is one of those super predators?

Who else falls in that category . . . Nas, Ja . . . the tens of thousands of brothers and sisters who are there for whoever stops to listen?

Hillary's "love" for diversity ends at the point where her middle right coalition starts to squirm.

 

Uponthegears

(1,499 posts)
69. Tripe
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:38 PM
May 2016

And you just proved it.

Hillary has NEVER stood up for a person of color when doing so would make the center right core of the Third Way uncomfortable. Yea, she will stand up for Michael Brown's grieving mother because folks who look like her sympathize with mothers. BUT when it comes to calling out the WHITEWASH in Ferguson, or the right of people to take their anger to the streets, she's all law and order.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
45. A terrible mistake....But that's all it is
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:14 PM
May 2016

Campaigns often use songs without really understanding their real context.

Anything otehr than the Star Spangled Banner runs that risk....and that one could be picked at too.

MineralMan

(146,351 posts)
66. Yet another accusation that someone is being paid to post?
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:35 PM
May 2016

Show your evidence, please, or self-delete.

MineralMan

(146,351 posts)
77. Thanks. You turned a personal attack that
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:44 PM
May 2016

might have been hidden into just an insult. Way to go.

mac56

(17,575 posts)
126. There's another "paid to post" accusation further downthread.
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:04 PM
May 2016

Just thought I'd save you a few moments.

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
55. I guess not
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:24 PM
May 2016

Do you remember his first few rallies he had a racist revolution song at his rally? People here said it was sarcasm. Maybe it was.. I don't know.

Laughing Mirror

(4,185 posts)
57. I'm not hearing those lyrics in this 42 second clip
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:26 PM
May 2016

Are they playing the radio version of this 2003 recording?

Laughing Mirror

(4,185 posts)
63. Well where's the clip with those lyrics?
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:30 PM
May 2016

This sounds like guilt by association to me. Also sounds like a smear.

TwilightZone

(25,517 posts)
70. It's an anti-gay song. Just because the entire song wasn't played doesn't make it any less anti-gay
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:40 PM
May 2016

This isn't complicated.

Laughing Mirror

(4,185 posts)
73. Well they played the anthem part of the song because it's rousing
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:42 PM
May 2016

And if there is video of those offensive lyrics I want to hear it. I am gay.

Laughing Mirror

(4,185 posts)
78. The part I heard does not sound anti-gay
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:45 PM
May 2016

It doesn't sound anti anything.

But we can hallucinate the homo thug lyrics over it, if it makes us angry enough.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
79. Two posts about this within four minutes of each other with almost exactly the same subject line.
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:47 PM
May 2016

Wow you guys should figure out a system where your posts are staggered after you receive the order to put them out there.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
80. Looks like yet another smear
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:47 PM
May 2016

Has anyone actually clicked on the link in the OP and read the update? Even the hack who originally published this is now admitting that there is not proof this song was actually played.

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
84. I knew it! Sanders is a right-wing gangster organizing a gang of anti-gay, racist, sexist thugs.
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:50 PM
May 2016

And I bet he personally selected that rap song because he just loves those lyrics.

Bad man.

Bad gangster man!

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
87. The story has been updated and there is some question as to whether the music was genuine.
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:56 PM
May 2016

It looks like it was overlayed by this random "NoahAyala" youtube user.

Unrelated to the Sanders Campaign.

Great job OP!

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
111. It's fake.
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:59 PM
May 2016

Multiple indicators that the "NoahTV" version is overdubbed:

* Several people clapping in rhythm...at a different tempo from the song. Not a single person can be seen grooving along to that music, despite it having a powerful, prominent beat.
* Music considerably louder than the crowd noise, something I've never seen at a Sanders rally (countless watched on video, two attended in person).
* The original article the OP cites now contains a FULL event video in which the song never appears.

It's ratfucking, people...and this OP should be deleted.

Perogie

(687 posts)
94. Is your claim Sanders chose this song?
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:08 PM
May 2016

Also your link now says there's some controversy if the song was actually playing.

Do you have this much outrage on the things that Hilliary actually says or are you blind to that?


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3537349/It-skit-Hillary-blames-Bill-Blasio-joined-stage-gala-racist-colored-people-joke.html

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
114. I still can not discount it
Sat May 28, 2016, 03:12 PM
May 2016

The ABC version supplied by the Sanders Campaign, cut the crowd noise seconds into the music.
The fox version is muted.
The one with the DMX, you can hear both the music and the crowd shouting and chanting Bernie.

hmmm. Which one to believe?

https://twitter.com/Edwinprime/status/735925339939954688/video/1

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
136. I'd never believe you or anyone on the 'they threw chairs and bottles' campaign for so many
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:19 PM
May 2016

reasons, the leading LGBT reason being that camp Tellalie was eager to excuse those horrible things Hillary told the American public about AIDS and Reagan which she did at the expense of the LGBT community and other minority communities as well as at the expense of the truth. People who yawn over that then try to convince me they give a fuck about LGBT people are not convincing in their testimony.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
102. Sanders uses an offensive song and Hillaryites come unglued. Hillary's entire fucking career
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:30 PM
May 2016

was based upon homophobia and racism and you people act like it wasn't. DOMA, DADT, 3 strikes, policy after policy designed to cater to the straight and the white.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
105. Poor dear you must be exhausted. I watched a clip and I didn't hear that.
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:45 PM
May 2016

Maybe you need to get off the computer and take yet another nap.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
118. Must be a shitload of different versions of this guy walking out. Take a nap sweetie
Sat May 28, 2016, 03:37 PM
May 2016

I"m worried you will exhaust yourelf

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
124. Sure looks faked up to me, and it comes from folks who said 'that's not Bernie in those photos'
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:01 PM
May 2016

when it was and who also said 'Ronald Reagan was the first AIDS activist' when he sure as shit was not.

These are not trustworthy persons.

mainer

(12,037 posts)
128. Wait -- Democrats who can't clap in time to a beat?
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:06 PM
May 2016

Not possible.

If this were a GOP crowd, I could believe it cause everyone knows a Republican can't keep a beat.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
131. That's the biggest tell, really.
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:10 PM
May 2016

People clapping and grooving...at a different tempo from the song.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
137. Nah, not a fluke or mistake. Ratfucking.
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:25 PM
May 2016

But you knew that.

I love seeing newbies destroy their credibility themselves, so much less effort for the rest of us.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
142. Yup. Classic example of catapulting the propaganda...
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:34 PM
May 2016

Now that its proven wrong, they'll laugh and try another smear without a single fuck to give.

Once you see the pattern, its impossible to miss.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
144. It's exploitative of LGBT and in essence an act of hate.
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:42 PM
May 2016

I am disgusted with the Clinton campaign beyond all measure.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
147. I'm really sorry BNW. Its despicable crap. They know it
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:47 PM
May 2016

But they obviously think there's some audience for this bullshit. Its telling that not a single Hillary supporter has called this out - still too busy trying to prop it up.

Hang in there.


 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
141. What is your evidence of that?
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:32 PM
May 2016

It looks the media just didn't do its due diligence (no surprise there).

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
143. Shrug. Pick any of the shitty memes: chairs thrown, violent Bernie supporters
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:39 PM
May 2016

Bernie’s a racist, or sexist, or mean to Jane.

He's a greedy grifter for going to Rome.

It's a pattern that's unmistakable. Its obviously not a lack of media diligence - often they're participating in the ratfuck.



 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
145. The YouTube video was posted by a Bernie supporter
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:45 PM
May 2016

Here's what I think happened:

A young Sanders supporter posted a video to YouTube of Bernie at an event with a song that he likes added in (if you ignore the lyrics, it's actually kind of a cool image of Bernie coming onstage to that beat).

The media got wind of the video and thought that the song was actually played at the event (which, on casually playing the video, is reasonable).

Then the story took off from there.

No one bothered to check to see if the song was actually played at the event (which would have been reporting 101). This, sadly, is the state of the media in this day and age.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
150. Understood
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:53 PM
May 2016

It's possible that you are right, certainly, but I think my hypothesis is pretty reasonable.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
146. Discredited story. Can find videos from Fox of same Lancaster event with no music as Sanders enters.
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:46 PM
May 2016

I'm an editor, and let me tell you from experience, if an original exists of him entering with no music, and that includes sound of the audience cheering while he enters and then both crowd sound and him speaking as he begins speaking, it is very easy to make another video with whatever music you want during his entrance and layer/mix that in. Any kind of music that the creator of this new video wants.

I'm sure that pretty much we all know this.

So, counterfeit videos made to discredit the honest record of Bernie Sanders. What else is new?

All this proves are the disgusting attacks on this man.

JudyM

(29,294 posts)
149. Way to build your credibility here, whoever you are. DISPROVED
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:50 PM
May 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512076168

Know what you're doing before starting an OP or you are shaming yourself and your candidate, who can't find much to legitimately criticize Sanders for.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
152. The optics when Hillary loses California are going to be just terrible.
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:59 PM
May 2016

You guys are pulling out all the stops on the ratfuckery to mitigate the terrible optics when she loses in California.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
154. I first saw this in the Bernie group or video and multimedia
Sat May 28, 2016, 05:00 PM
May 2016

I wondered when the poster would actually LISTEN to the words of the singer/rapper/artist. They seemed proud about it so I just ignored it.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
155. LIE. Total fabrication. WTF is your problem???
Sat May 28, 2016, 05:01 PM
May 2016

You guys have really lost it. Can't deal with facts and policy issues and REAL problems so you have to go make shit up.

Honestly, you guys have no shame and no integrity. Its really embarrassing. There's only 3/4 of the people in this country left who care about reality and facts. The GOP and the Hillary camp could give a rat's ass. Seriously embarrassing to have to be an American these days. You guys make is suck.

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