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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:24 AM May 2016

Hillary's Street Rep ..... Honesty and Trustworthiness...Polls and thoughts

Ramifications of the IOG report.

In the next few weeks — just as the likely Democratic presidential nominee hopes to pivot towards a general election — it will face its toughest scrutiny yet.

“All of that feeds into this overarching problem of public distrust of her,” said Grant Reeher, a political science professor at Syracuse University.

“To put it in slang terms, she’s got a pretty deeply held street rep at this point. This fits the street rep,” he added.

The State Department’s watchdog report was especially damaging, given the official nature of its source. The report claimed that Clinton never sought approval for her “homebrew” email setup, that her use of the system violated the department’s record-keeping rules and that it would have been rejected had she brought it up to department officials


Legal experts appear skeptical that the Justice Department would hand down a criminal charge against Clinton, due to both the high legal hurdles involved and the intense political scrutiny surrounding the likely presidential nominee.

But that won’t end the matter.

Republicans appear primed to cry foul if the FBI closes its investigation without handing down indictments or offering a public explanation. Senior lawmakers have already excoriated the Justice Department for failing to appoint a special prosecutor.

“It’s clear that the attorney general, who serves at the pleasure of President Obama, is going to have very little incentive or intention to pursue the appropriate investigation,” Sen. John Cornyn (Texas), the No. 2 Senate Republican, said on the chamber floor this week.

Other Senate Republicans, including Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) and Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) have launched their own investigations related to Clinton’s email. Some of their findings, Grassley said this week, were at odds with those of the State Department’s inspector general report.

“I will follow up to get to the bottom of these discrepancies because misrepresenting the facts to Congress is unacceptable,” Grassley pledged.

And as she gears up for a general election, Clinton has to expect that Donald Trump won’t be as kind.

Sanders “didn’t pick up on the emails, which I think was a big mistake,” the presumptive GOP nominee said on “Fox and Friends” last weekend.

“I’m going to pick up bigly.”




http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/281554-clinton-email-headache-is-about-to-get-worse


One demonstrably false claim after another, just as she's been doing since the emails story broke.

She didn't want the inconvenience of two devices to keep work and private emails separate. All of her emails were automatically saved by the State Department. She handed over all work-related emails. The private email system was set up for her husband. She never sent or received classified information on the private system. The private system was secure from hackers. The State Department approved her use of the private system.



And here's one more: Clinton has said all along that she and her staff have cooperated with investigators.

Yet they refused to so much as be interviewed by the State Department inspector general. The latest spin on that one is that "there were hints of an anti-Clinton bias inside that office."



We have no new polls on the trust/honesty angle since the IOG report came out but this is how its been trending for a while.


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That’s not a great look, America, when the leading candidates for president are viewed by majorities of the population as fundamentally dishonest, especially when one of them is being investigated by the FBI for mishandling classified information and the other is being sued for fraud in a sketchy “university” scam and then boldface lies about environmental realities.

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Actually I find my post disturbing on a higher moral level Ichingcarpenter May 2016 #5

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
5. Actually I find my post disturbing on a higher moral level
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:32 PM
May 2016

From what I've learned in my life


Who lies for you will lie against you. ~Bosnian Proverb


A half truth is a whole lie. ~Yiddish Proverb

A lie may take care of the present, but it has no future. ~Author Unknown


We tell lies when we are afraid... afraid of what we don't know, afraid of what others will think, afraid of what will be found out about us. But every time we tell a lie, the thing that we fear grows stronger. ~Tad Williams


Honesty is the first chapter of the book of wisdom. ~Thomas Jefferson


It is impossible to calculate the moral mischief, if I may so express it, that mental lying has produced in society. When a man has so far corrupted and prostituted the chastity of his mind as to subscribe his professional belief to things he does not believe he has prepared himself for the commission of every other crime. ~Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason



Truth that is naked is the most beautiful, and the simpler its expression the deeper is the impression it makes; this is partly because it gets unobstructed hold of the hearer’s mind without his being distracted by secondary thoughts, and partly because he feels that here he is not being corrupted or deceived by the arts of rhetoric, but that the whole effect is got from the thing itself. ~Arthur Schopenhauer, translated from German


It takes two to lie. One to lie and one to listen. ~Homer Simpson, The Simpsons

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