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Frenchye

(37 posts)
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:40 AM May 2016

Clinton debated Sanders before the NY primary. And she won. She's not afraid of debating in CA

A right-wing newspaper called the Washington Times claimed that Hillary Clinton is "ducking" a debate in Fox News.
But in the article neither Clinton nor anybody at all in her campaign is quoted saying anything at all. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/19/hillary-clinton-ducking-final-debate-with-bernie-s/

Unexplained is why a candidate who has participated in multiple debates (and as a result is 98% favorite to win the nomination according to Predictwise) be afraid of debating in California.

No scientific poll has shown respondents saying that Sanders won any of the debates held so far.

While you're at it, please fall out of love with the Washington Times, Fox, etc.




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Clinton debated Sanders before the NY primary. And she won. She's not afraid of debating in CA (Original Post) Frenchye May 2016 OP
she's afraid Bernie won't hold back anymore polio2 May 2016 #1
She's been accused of being afraid to debate for a year now Frenchye May 2016 #3
bernie refused to attack her on many personal issues polio2 May 2016 #4
Then why does she always have to jerk everyone around before hand? pdsimdars May 2016 #36
Bernie held back in the debates huh? apnu May 2016 #17
Who "wins" a debate is entirely subjective. djean111 May 2016 #2
It was a Sanders supporter TexasTowelie May 2016 #5
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #6
Please don't accuse other DUers of being paid posters. MineralMan May 2016 #9
They're grumpy these days Frenchye May 2016 #10
She's definitely ducking a debate (and breaking a promise) irrespective of whether or not she's DisgustipatedinCA May 2016 #7
Can't quote silence. hellofromreddit May 2016 #8
.. frylock May 2016 #11
If she refuses to debate she is ducking it. It is what it is. ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #12
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yup timmymoff May 2016 #14
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has she agreed to it? ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #16
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She hasn't agreed, therefore she is ducking it. Until she agrees, she hasn't agreed. ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #20
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So far yes. ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #23
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How can I quote her agreeing when she hasn't agreed? ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #27
Poster joined in May 2016, like another I posted to this morning. She kept demanding links too. merrily May 2016 #31
LOL! Keep demanding links and direct quotes. merrily May 2016 #30
If she doesn't show, she doesn't show. n/t Orsino May 2016 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #22
Who said she won't show? n/t Orsino May 2016 #33
I don't think it will happen. The realization is setting in. ucrdem May 2016 #24
Chicken hawk is too chickpoo? More news at 11:00. nt nc4bo May 2016 #26
I'm thrilled that she reneged. But the source shaming is pure hypocrisy. merrily May 2016 #28
She need to ignore him and stop giving into his demands. Gomez163 May 2016 #29
Oh look. Another one. Maedhros May 2016 #32
+1 JudyM May 2016 #34
Is she making this one a "thing" too? Can't she just DO something without all the drama? pdsimdars May 2016 #35
 

polio2

(98 posts)
1. she's afraid Bernie won't hold back anymore
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:44 AM
May 2016

He was holding back in all the other debates and now Hillary thinks she won't be able to control him this time around.

Bernie has been nothing but appeasing the Hillary camp since day 1, but trying to stomp his movement out now with no concessions for the platform has finally made Bernie snap.

 

Frenchye

(37 posts)
3. She's been accused of being afraid to debate for a year now
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:46 AM
May 2016

I've heard the "She-s-afraid-to-debate" meme for a long long time.
It's not because of some theory that Sanders was holding back and now might turn into The Hulk when it's too late.

 

polio2

(98 posts)
4. bernie refused to attack her on many personal issues
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:49 AM
May 2016

such as the email server, etc. from the beginning. It's clear Bernie was holding back, because he never expected to get this far. The reason why he has, is because everyone underestimated the weakness of Hillary.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
36. Then why does she always have to jerk everyone around before hand?
Fri May 20, 2016, 02:22 PM
May 2016

Can't she just do something without all the nonsense?
The GOP had 17 candidates and didn't have half the drama. Diva!

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
2. Who "wins" a debate is entirely subjective.
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:44 AM
May 2016
While you're at it, please fall out of love with the Washington Times, Fox, etc.

You are the one reading it.....

Not in love with them. Not in love, or even like, with Hillary, either.

Due to her positions on issues like war and fracking and the TPP and cluster bombs. Has nothing to do with any "news" outlets.

TexasTowelie

(112,568 posts)
5. It was a Sanders supporter
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:50 AM
May 2016

that posted the article from the Washington Times on DU earlier (I believe it was last night). The author of the OP probably decided not to post the link since it would constitute a meta discussion which would get the post locked by the forum hosts.

Response to Frenchye (Original post)

MineralMan

(146,341 posts)
9. Please don't accuse other DUers of being paid posters.
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:57 AM
May 2016

Unless you have direct evidence of that, it is a terrible personal attack.

 

hellofromreddit

(1,182 posts)
8. Can't quote silence.
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:54 AM
May 2016

A failure to agree is a failure to agree. But maybe she'll follow Bernie's lead again and agree to a debate, if belatedly.

Response to ThePhilosopher04 (Reply #12)

Response to timmymoff (Reply #14)

Response to ThePhilosopher04 (Reply #16)

 

ThePhilosopher04

(1,732 posts)
20. She hasn't agreed, therefore she is ducking it. Until she agrees, she hasn't agreed.
Fri May 20, 2016, 01:04 PM
May 2016

Your question answers itself.

Response to ThePhilosopher04 (Reply #20)

Response to ThePhilosopher04 (Reply #23)

 

ThePhilosopher04

(1,732 posts)
27. How can I quote her agreeing when she hasn't agreed?
Fri May 20, 2016, 01:09 PM
May 2016

Absence of an agreement is refusal. The offer has been out there.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
31. Poster joined in May 2016, like another I posted to this morning. She kept demanding links too.
Fri May 20, 2016, 01:17 PM
May 2016

It's very important to make sure the record is linked.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
30. LOL! Keep demanding links and direct quotes.
Fri May 20, 2016, 01:15 PM
May 2016

Member since: Thu May 19, 2016, 07:00 PM
Number of posts: 36

Response to Orsino (Reply #19)

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
24. I don't think it will happen. The realization is setting in.
Fri May 20, 2016, 01:06 PM
May 2016

Long NPR piece today about their respective ad campaigns (Hillary and Trump). Everyone will have their chance to vote but it really is over.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
28. I'm thrilled that she reneged. But the source shaming is pure hypocrisy.
Fri May 20, 2016, 01:14 PM
May 2016

I haven't used those as sources, but today an message board post from KOS full of falsehoods is an OP. Yesterday, it was anonymous Sanders hit piece by screen name Betty Cracker from a blog o'matic site. I did not see a single Hillary supporter worry about unreliability or bias. So, spare us. At least people at the Times are working writers who putting their real names on their crap, which is more than I can say for the "sources" Hillary supporters have been making OPs out of.

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