2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy didn't the Sanders campaign know the process in NV?
Why didn't they select qualified delegates? What does it say about Sanders campaign that they would take such a small handful of delegates for granted?
Jeff Weaver has previously admitted to not knowing the caucus rules. https://twitter.com/melissaryan/status/693990060253839360
This ignorance thwarted the Sanders campaign's attempt to steal the election overturn the will of the voters commit election fraud fraudulently get more delegates in Nevada.
From John Ralston:
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)We've seen this one already. It was bullshit the first time, too.
DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)I found out three days before our District Convention, that I was a registered Republican.
I was a registered Democrat as of Feb 1, because it is required that all Iowans participating in the Democratic caucuses must be registered Democrats.
So, sometime between Feb 1 and May 1, my voter registration was switched from Democrat to Republican.
And now, we find out that one reason why these 64 NV delegates were stripped of their credentials--was because they "were not registered as Democrats, by May 1."
I wonder if these Bernie delegates had their registrations switched--out of thin air--like I did.
I was told that if I had showed up to our District Convention, as a registered Republicans, that the Hillary people would have stripped my credentials and that I would not have been to participate as a delegate.
Ain't that interesting?
DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)I live in a red state and people are constantly changing their registration. Also, while phone banking it turns out that about 30% of the voters don't even know how they are registered.
At our caucuses you did not need to be registered to vote btw, you just signed up to vote at the meeting. Two thirds of the participants were new voters and change party voters and only about 2% of them actually went to the courthouse later and registered or change affiliation.
ETA: Looks like you are posting the same story down thread but with a different name.
brush
(53,778 posts)I caucused here in Vegas and Clinton supporters outnumber Sanders' by at least 2 to 1.
All this confusion is another reason to get rid of caucuses.
Who has time to sit in a room for 3 hours of confusion. Not the majority of voters as they are either at work or school.
With primaries they can arrange their day and take 15 minutes to vote before, at lunch or after work.
NanceGreggs
(27,814 posts)... with BernieRules, which means the primary rules in every state should be what Bernie thinks they should be instead of what they actually are.
It is very similar to BernieMath in terms of the scope of idiocy/unreality.
Compare posts 15 and 13.
NanceGreggs
(27,814 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)uponit7771
(90,336 posts)uponit7771
(90,336 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Renew Deal
(81,859 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
BootinUp
(47,144 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)BootinUp
(47,144 posts)w4rma
(31,700 posts)I've never talked about this on DU, but I guess now is a good time.
I'm a Bernie delegate from Iowa. I participated in our County Convention and I was gearing up to participate as a Bernie delegate in our District Convention, which was held two weeks ago. Three days before the District Convention, I get a phone call from a Bernie Sanders staff member.
They were wondering why I was registered as a Republican in the state of Iowa.
I was flabbergasted. Our Iowa Caucuses were Feb 1, and to participate you must be a REGISTERED DEMOCRAT. I participated, gave a speech for Bernie and served as a Precinct Captain. Furthermore, I've voted Democrat my entire life, starting in the early 1980's.
You can imagine my shock. Why was I, a Bernie delegate, now a REGISTERED REPUBLICAN?
I was told that there were other Bernie delegates who were also coming up as REGISTERED REPUBLICANS too. One of them was a life-long Democrat who was also a Democratic County Precinct Chair.
I was informed, three days before our District Convention, that if I showed up at our Convention as a REGISTERED REPUBLICAN that the Hillary people could challenge my credentials, strip me of my credentials and that I would be disallowed from participating or voting.
I had to go downtown and switch my registration. The woman at the counter confirmed that I was indeed--a REGISTERED REPUBLICAN.
FACT: SOMETIME BETWEEN FEB 1 AND MAY 1--MY VOTER REGISTRATION SWITCHED FROM DEMOCRAT TO REPUBLICAN.
I have NO IDEA how. I never switched it.
I showed up at the District Convention in May---and sure enough, my name had a big line through it. The Hillary person at the check-in table questioned my Republican status. I had the appropriate paperwork to document that I had switched to Democrat, so I was let in.
I just learned that in Nevada that 64 of Bernie's delegates were stripped of their credentials. A Hillary supporter on DU posted the official reason: "because they weren't 'registered as Democratic voters by May 1, 2016'"
I bet they weren't REGISTERED DEMOCRATS. Maybe they became REGISTERED REPUBLICANS...just like I did. It's like some kind of political miracle, in which Bernie delegates get their registrations switched out of thin air.
Simply unbelievable.
I had a few tears coming down, when I read about why those 64 were stripped of their credentials. Bernie would have won that Nevada caucus room, if those 64 delegates would have been allowed to participate. I hope those delegates find out WHY their credentials were stripped and I hope they fight the ruling--if their voter registrations were switched without their knowledge.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1963030
Renew Deal
(81,859 posts)And I won't question that persons veracity. I'm sure they're telling the truth to the best of their knowledge. It's just not relevant.
Time for change
(13,714 posts)The rules were changed as a result of a "voice vote", which was ruled to be in favor of a rule change, even the the Sanders delegates strenuously objected and demanded an actual vote count.
Talk about strong arm fraudulent tactics.
Renew Deal
(81,859 posts)That's normal
w4rma
(31,700 posts)Especially on a voice vote that sounded like the Nays won that voice vote's majority.
Time for change
(13,714 posts)When there is massive, no doubt a majority opposition to the rule changes?
MFM008
(19,808 posts)If you cant comply with the registration process you shouldn't be trusted to draw a line to a name in a box, even with a crayon.
HRC lost delegates because they came in LATE on the caucus day in my state.
She would have won my district if they had been allowed to vote.
They were turned away.
She would have won by 2 votes, instead she lost by 2.
We had to eat it, against the rules.
Do it right or don't do it and whine about it.