Hillary's cheating caught on camera in Nevada (Coup by corporations and Military Industrial Complex)

[egalitegirl]

This is a coup by the corporations and the Military Industrial Complex.

As you can see clearly, a motion for recount is placed before the chair. A male comes and whispers something to the woman because Hillary's women are just like her who cannot think for themselves and and take orders from men.

In response to the male command, she ignores the motion for a recount and claims that there is a motion to change the rules.

The entire crowd shouts NO but she claims the motion to change the rules has passed!

This is now out in the open. Gadhafi and Saddam Hussein had better Democratic processes than Hillary Clinton.

The Clinton family has subverted the Democratic process and reduced America into a banana republic. This is coup in the making and very shameful.

[SFnomad]

1. Caucuses are hardly democratic n/t

[egalitegirl]

3. So you agree DLC is not Democratic?

Hillary and her cohorts in the DLC created the caucuses. Don't blame Bernie for it. You just admitted that the Democratic Party leadership is not Democratic.

[SFnomad]

4. Re: Hillary and her cohorts in the DLC created the caucuses.

What kind of drugs are you doing? Caucuses have been around for a lot longer than Secretary Clinton and the DLC. They didn't "create" them.

[puffy socks]

32. They must've been some powerful hallucinogens! nt

.

[TwilightZone]

16. "Hillary and her cohorts in the DLC created the caucuses."

Let me guess. This is your first rodeo?

[SFnomad]

22. My guess is the person won't be old enough to vote for a couple of Presidential elections n/t

[puffy socks]

37. It's just mind boggling!

A few days ago I came across a post where a BoB supporter said he didn't believe in the SCOTUS argument . It was a stupid reason to vote for Hillary"
I explained that Ruth Bader Ginsburg was probably going to retire or pass away and obviously Scalia will be replaced soon,

and they said, "Who the 'F' is Ruth Bader Ginsburg?"

[TwilightZone]

70. I had a chat on another site with a BS supporter that didn't know that the CPC existed.

Even though Bernie's a member. After I explained what it was, the poster still didn't believe it because "Bernie's the only progressive in Congress".

That being said, not knowing who RBG knocks that one out of the park.

[puffy socks]

91. Maybe it's

because the progressives in the CPC are running from Sanders?
https://gobling.wordpress.com/2016/02/04/when-progressives-run-from-bernie/


A ton of his supporters really believe "Bernie's the only progressive in Congress" and that no one else has ever fought for Progressive legislation since FDR or Kennedy.
It's a slap in the face to all the progressives who have been raked over the coals by the GOP i.e. corporate America's representation in Congress.

[TwilightZone]

95. Well, they're all sellouts, dontcha know?

They kind of lost me when they proclaimed that John Conyers was a sellout, but had no idea who he was or what he'd done. That was almost as good as declaring Planned Parenthood part of the establishment.

I think a lot of them are political neophytes, so they're mostly unaware of anything in the political arena prior to Sanders deciding to run for president.

[LiberalFighter]

90. That is not a caucus.

It is a state convention.

[SFnomad]

99. Nevada is a caucus state n/t

[LiberalFighter]

110. Nevada is only a caucus state for the purpose of determining how many delegates

each candidate receives that go to the national convention and the delegates that will vote on it.

It is at the convention just as in states with primary elections that they decide the delegates that go to the national convention.

Just because a state uses a caucus for their elections doesn't make state party conventions a caucus too. They serve different functions.

[CoffeeCat]

106. The caucuses were Democratic until Hillary

got her mitts on them. Now they're corrupt as hell. Her little flying monkeys will do cheat however they can and exploit the system a million different ways.

Caucuses used to be transparent, open and smoothly run. In 2008, with record participation--no problems in our Iowa caucuses. Smooth as silk.

This year, with a 30 percent drop in attendance, it was a shit show on steroids. Because that's how you cheat. Create chaos, wreak havoc and you can get away with stealing it all.

What a joke our entire primary has been. One shit show after another--state after state. Rigged caucuses, voter suppression, not enough voting machines, "clerical errors", voter suppression, disappearing registrations, 6-hour voting lines, exit polls that don't match the election results.

Investigations in Arizona, Illinois, New York and Delaware is being looked at now.

What a travesty. How did we get so far down this rabbit hole?

[creeksneakers2]

130. Hillary won Nevada

by a very slim margin. Subsequently, I read a celebration here of Bernie winding up with more delegates than she did at a Nevada convention. The Sanders supporters were fine with that. They loved it.

Now things are getting even crazier.

Are you implying Hillary had anything to do with election problems? That's ridiculous if you are.

[cui bono]

149. The establishment has everything to do with election problems.

And we know who they don't want in power.

.

[chwaliszewski]

153. +1000

[bkkyosemite]

126. Oh please!

[cantbeserious]

2. Duplicity Is As Duplicity Does

eom

[nenagh]

5. Wow,

I'm glad it was caught on tape...hope it is spread far and wide on social media.

Go Bernie.

[felix_numinous]

6. Kick for visibility

[SusanCalvin]

8. WHAAAAAAAA??????? That is nuts. nt

[scscholar]

9. People screaming "no" during the vote for "aye"

really screwed themselves. The aye was louder.

[SusanCalvin]

11. I defy anyone to tell without a db meter, even with the cross vote.

It was too close for a voice vote.

[egalitegirl]

18. Motion should be for recount

First fraud is that the motion for recount was ignored. It was placed BEFORE the male commander instructed the female puppet to ignore the motion and replace it by another motion.

Please discuss this fraud before obfuscating the discussion with the second fraud.

[CorporatistNation]

120. How Can ANYONE Support THIS Egregious Behavior!

Because it is CRIMINAL!

[bjo59]

147. Right. Really mind boggling.

People there reported that even Hillary delegates were angry. That a freaking travesty. And then the images of the brown shirted police all lined up at the front of the stage after she suddenly closed down the convention and ran out.

[liberal from boston]

194. Go Bernie

Last night I watched live coverage of a young woman whose Nevada family is involved in Democratic Party explained what was happening. IMO, everything happened quickly & when announcement was made she said so sadly we just saw an election stolen. Interesting that she is a Bernie supporter but her father (who is a former Congressman} supports Hillary. She said her father was disgusted, ripped up his ballot & walked out. Any DU member also see this??

[Uncle Joe]

10. I wonder who that man was that whispered something in her ear?

Thanks for the thread, egalitegirl.

[jillan]

24. That's what I was wondering too. Who is he and what did he say?

[egalitegirl]

25. He obviously told her to ignore the motion for recount

and replace it with a motion to change the rules to favor Hillary. No idea who he was but must be one of the Clinton team's operators who decided on the spot how to counter the motion for recount.

[AzDar]

12. K & R

[Progressive dog]

14. Coup, taking orders from men, is just funny

The Gadhafi and Saddam Hussein bit is hilarious. I'm wondering if you think that Bernie would talk that way if he dared or if you just don't have a clue about the country you live in.

[sadoldgirl]

15. This was clearly a take over from the party.

They are not even ashamed of showing it out
in the open!

Now the reaction will set in, and the party will
not like it.

[NewImproved Deal]

46. Some consolation in knowing what's coming...if either Oligarch "wins" in November...

[link:|

[Depaysement]

55. Gowanus, Brooklyn

Just in case anyone asks.

[pdsimdars]

167. A thing of beauty and wisdom!

[hellofromreddit]

17. Deja vu all over again

[B Calm]

19. Wow they are acting like republicans.

[-none]

72. Whatdaya mean acting?

They are not acting.

[CentralMass]

20. Wow..what corruption.

[Demsrule86]

23. Bernie people lied and cheat to get those delegatate last time

Good for Hillary and her supporters to beat them at their own game.

[elleng]

33. So according to you, 2 wrongs make a right, right?

[Demsrule86]

124. haha Don't give me that

You disenfranchised the voters...minority voters at that...which make it particularly reprehensible. A wrong has been righted...Hillary won...you should not have send letter and acted in such a sleazy manner.

[elleng]

127. I disenfranchised no one, and I sent no letter, nor did I act in a sleazy manner.

2 wrongs do NOT make a right.

[Demsrule86]

140. You defend what other supporters of your candidate did: they behaved dishonorably

and disenfranchised voters...I can tell you think it was wrong and you are right. Terrible thing to do and when you consider...many of the voters were minority voters...it makes it worse...so called Democrats stealing votes from minorities... in a cruze- like manner...horrible.

[chwaliszewski]

154. Here comes the self-righteous finger wagging...

I don't have the patience to point out all of the sleaziness your candidate and her ilk have pulled that apparently you're okay with. Maybe Hillary was flawless until she had to dodge that sniper fire in Bosnia back in the '90s.

[Samantha]

36. Who cheated when the original caucus was held?

Sanders was unquestionably polling much better than Clinton right up until the actual caucus. Harry Reid rode into town that Wednesday to save the day. He called one of his "friends" who controlled a very large business and asked him to let his workers off to go to the caucus and vote for Hillary. They were given the time and ran over and said they were there to vote. It was overwhelming. They were allowed to vote, and to speed things up for those who were not registered, they were handed the registration sheet, told to fill it out afterwards and turn it in. In other words, many of those people who voted were not even registered when they did.

Sam

[Demsrule86]

123. Hillary worked hard to win Nevada

She won fair and square... sorry what you did was wrong and now that wrong hopefully has been righted. The people that vote deserve to have their vote respected...never has any Democrat ever done this...I don't think any GOP did it before Cruz.

[shraby]

43. Kindness and love with a post like that????? What planet do you hail from.

[Demsrule86]

122. Planet reality

Stealing votes is a terrible thing to do ...especially from minority voters who fought for 100 years for the right. You think you are so clever...haha...you showed Hillary and all...but what you did was wrong period...and you should be ashamed. You claim your candidate is so honest and all...I sure didn't see that in Nevada.

[RichVRichV]

103. How did they cheat?

Hillary delegates didn't bother to show up. That's on the Hillary campaign not Bernie's. He didn't write the rules (the state party with the backing of the DNC did), and he and his supporters followed the rules as written. So how did they cheat?

[Demsrule86]

121. Fraudulent letters were mailed and you know it.

But here is the thing...I don't care what tricks you employed or how clever you thought you were ...those were real voters who had a right to have their votes count. What you did was morally reprehensible...and can not be defended.

[RichVRichV]

125. Couple things about that letter.

1) It was mailed by the state party, not Bernie supporters.

2) Bernie supporters got it also, they simply chose to ignore it and show up anyways.

3) The letter didn't lie. It stated that if you registered your presidential preference would be counted (regardless of showing up to the actual caucus). That was the truth. It specifically says so in the Nevada State Delegate Selection Plan (which are the rules the state caucuses follow). It specifically said people could register on the Friday before the convention and that was the requirement for having their votes counted for presidential preference. Page 8, 2a. The letter was completely truthful.



Learn the damn rules of the party before you start arguing things!

[seabeyond]

133. It was mail by a Sanders supporter working there, she sent a correct email to Sanders supporters

telling them they had to show, she admitted it and was fired, it was a group effort of Sanders supporters.

[RichVRichV]

142. Once again, prove it!

You are doubling down on your lies. Prove the accusation. Once again the email was factual.


Here is the email in question:




And here is the rules that it pertains to:

a) Exact registration times shall be set by each county’s respective convention committee. However, each convention committee shall be directed to open in-person registration for no less than three (3) hours between 4:00 p.m. and 9:00 p.m. on Friday, April 1st; and no less than two (2) hours prior to the convention’s call to order, while remaining open until 12:00 p.m. Where practicable, the Nevada State Democratic Party encourages county parties to use online pre-registration beginning up to 30 days prior to the county convention date. However, the use of online pre-registration does not exempt or mitigate the requirements for in-person registration set forth here.

f) Delegates to county conventions shall be considered to have aligned with a preference group when they are registered for the convention. A delegate shall be required to designate his or her preference group at the time of registration. A delegate who refuses to designate a preference group shall be registered by the Credentials Committee as uncommitted.

That is directly from the Nevada Democratic Delegate Selection Plan, pages 8 and 9.

Hillary didn't lose Clark county because her delegates were lied to and didn't show up to the convention. She lost it because too many of her delegates didn't bother to register at all! The alternates were seated because there were not enough registrations (from Friday or Saturday) to fill all the spots. Even Bernie's registrations rates were down for the convention, just not as bad as hers. Unlike the round one caucuses, the convention count for presidential preference were done via registration forms, not hand counts.



And finally if Christine Kramar was such a lying cheating person, why did even the Hillary supporters on the credentials committee join her in the protest when she was ousted? Because it was a partisan move by the Hillary campaign to gain an upper hand and completely against the rules as outlined. it had nothing whatsoever to do with cheating.

[Demsrule86]

141. that is not true...the woman who did it was fired...

and tossed out of the convention.

[RichVRichV]

144. The head of the credentials committee Christine Kramar was ousted for partisan reasons.

Her removal had absolutely nothing to do with any emails sent to delegates. The charge was sharing confidential emails with the Bernie campaign (totally different emails than the ones discussed here). The charge was ludicrous on it's merits. Anything going through the credentials committee had to be non-partisan and shared with all sides.

Even the two Hillary supporters on the credentials committee acknowledged that and protested her ouster with her.

[Demsrule86]

157. Do you deny she helped trick Hillary voters and steal votes?

and acted in an unprofessional manner? We all know she did it and deserved to be fired...and possibly prosecuted.

[RichVRichV]

162. I already disproved it. Look at post 142.

I'm sure you'll ignore it. Hillary supporters are great at ignoring any evidence that goes against your bias, no matter how obvious it is pointed out.

[Demsrule86]

191. Baloney

She sent a letter with the wrong time on it to Clinton people...she was lucky she was just fired...could have been prosecuted. FACT...Hillary Clinton won the Nevada caucus. FACT 2...Bernie supporter tried to overturn the primary...FACT3 They were stopped cold and are crying because they were not allowed to cheat. FACT4 Those few votes are meaningless for Bernie as he has lost the primary and all the bad behavior won't change that.

[RichVRichV]

196. So now you're trying to claim she sent them the wrong times. Where do you get your information?

Brock Nation Review?


Since you once again provided no evidence I'm going to presume this has to do with the email sent to delegates you keep going on about (which was sent by the party, not by any Bernie supporter). If there is another letter you are speaking of please provide a link to it.

Now here's a copy of the dastardly email in question:




Now here is a direct quote from the Nevada Democratic Delegate Selection Plan, page 8, 2a.

a) Exact registration times shall be set by each county’s respective convention committee. However, each convention committee shall be directed to open in-person registration for no less than three (3) hours between 4:00 p.m. and 9:00 p.m. on Friday, April 1st; and no less than two (2) hours prior to the convention’s call to order, while remaining open until 12:00 p.m. Where practicable, the Nevada State Democratic Party encourages county parties to use online pre-registration beginning up to 30 days prior to the county convention date. However, the use of online pre-registration does not exempt or mitigate the requirements for in-person registration set forth here.

Oh look everything in that email follows the state parties rules on when registration is supposed to happen. The 3 hour mandatory registration time on Friday was met. The 2 hours before convention convened on Saturday was met. The keeping registration open until noon on Saturday was met. The dates were correct. Once again, the email was truthful. No one was lied to. Bernie supporters didn't cheat. Large numbers of Hillary supporters just didn't bother to register for the second round. That's why they lost it.


I know I'm not going to ever convince you know matter how obvious the evidence is. You're stuck in your bubble and locked into bias overload. However I won't let you set the narrative with a pack of lies that you can't even attempt to back up.

[bjo59]

148. Showing up is lying and cheating now?

[Demsrule86]

158. sometimes

when you flip a primary you lost and take delegates, you did not earn

[procon]

27. So your angst is based on yourbelief that women must be subservient to men?

That's what I see from your writing:
Men give commands.
Women cannot think for themselves.
Women don't take orders from men.

Welcome back to the 60s, and from there you proceed to make an unfounded allegation based on a whisper that no one could hear. Again, there's nothing here that provides any inkling that there is some "coup by the corporations and the Military Industrial Complex". None of the claims you've made appear any any other credible news reports. Which leads to the conclusion that this OP is just another fiction based on a Youtube video by some blogger named Alexander Higgins, famous for... I dunno what.

[egalitegirl]

31. I don't know the youtube account holder either

I was watching another video on youtube and at the end of it, youtube automatically started playing this one. That is how I came to know about it. I immediately thought it would be something people here would be interested. I don't think it is a hoax simply because we do not know the person who posted it. Do you really think the video is not genuine?

[George II]

39. It's not genuine.

[procon]

45. The question is not whether the video is genuine,

but more about credibility. You say you know nothing about this blogger. It happens that his anti-Hillary meme nicely fits in with your own confirmation bias, but why is this unknown blogger's added editorial commentary, "Crooked Hillary Election Fraud", a valid conclusion? It isn't at all apparent what was happening from that clip with the really bad audio pickup.

There's also your own subjective opinions about women in general and a total fabrication about a nonexist coup and Banana Republics, all because Bernie fans disagreed with something... like maybe because they lost the vote count, who knows. There is no coups in the works, just winners and losers, but you based your comments on nothing more than a visceral reaction to this short video snippet.

[egalitegirl]

75. No idea why it is added

I pasted the link and nothing more from the link into the original post. I did not even intend it to be displayed as a video because I thought it required special code. I thought it would show up as a link. In fact, I was pleasantly surprised that it showed up as a video because I used to wonder how to do that sort of thing!

I have no idea how the editorial commentary you mention shows up stamped on the video. The original does not have it stamped on the video! So it must be how DU processes youtube links. I do notice that the commentary is below the video on the original page but I did not notice that part when I posted it.

[tammywammy]

28. WTF?

A male comes and whispers something to the woman because Hillary's women are just like her who cannot think for themselves and and take orders from men.

Bless your heart. I don't want the hide for saying what I really think.

[Number23]

61. Plus a freaking million. And a jury of simpletons left this rot, 3-4

[greatauntoftriplets]

65. Plus about a billion.

I take orders from men???

[Agschmid]

83. Well you do always agree with me in MIRT.

So yeah... Clearly.

[greatauntoftriplets]

86. Nope.

It's that you agree with me.

[Agschmid]

88. You caught me.

[greatauntoftriplets]

89. LOL.

I bet you knew that was coming.

[mcar]

92. I'll add to this +etc

No point in responding to the OP.

[moriah]

114. Are you a fellow Southerner?

It's really a very versatile phrase...

[pdsimdars]

168. You see a video with that kind of dishonesty and all you can do is find fault with that?

I find myself questioning people's value systems more and more with tone deaf statements like that.

[tammywammy]

177. Bless your heart.

Hillary's women are just like her who cannot think for themselves and and take orders from men.

I find myself questioning people's value systems more and more with tone deaf statements like that.

[pdsimdars]

184. Remember, here's looking at you.

.

[tammywammy]

185. ...

Hillary's women are just like her who cannot think for themselves and and take orders from men.

I find myself questioning people's value systems more and more with tone deaf statements like that.

[Travis_0004]

29. Results of jury service

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
On Sat May 14, 2016, 08:17 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Hillary's cheating caught on camera in Nevada (Coup by corporations and Military Industrial Complex)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511961872

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Ghadafi and Saddam Hussein are better than Hillary, and "Hillary's women" can't think for themselves and take orders from men. So much fail in this post.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat May 14, 2016, 08:25 PM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: What. The. Hell?
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: A more hateful pile of excrement could not be found outside of a Tea-Party porta-john. Sander's fans, you need to call this kind of garbage out when it comes from those walking among you, pretending to be your own. No progressive or Democrat would post this kind of bullshit.

[Dem2]

49. Good to know hardcore misogyny is allowed so long as the side in power posts it

wow!

[BootinUp]

105. +1

[TwilightZone]

59. And that's pretty much all you need to know about the current state of DU.

Anything goes, as long as it's pointed the right direction.

[sheshe2]

66. Just look at all the rec's.

Enough said.

[Number23]

63. Juror #7 deserves a medal. Serious props but as usual, the sane and reasonable are outnumbered

[Henhouse]

77. Three cheers for Juror #7.....n/t

[mcar]

93. Yes

And notice the Leave votes offer no comment.

[Maru Kitteh]

146. I am juror #7. I can't believe this tripe was allowed to stand.

The pure, seething misogyny alone should have been sufficient enough to start handing out pizza slices.

[JTFrog]

165. Not only allowed to stand but rec'd over 100 times. n/t

[Bobbie Jo]

132. FYI...

Going forward if we see anyone voting to leave the worst-of-the-worst posts, or voting in a nakedly partisan fashion to hide posts which are clearly legitimate, then we will remove that person's ability to serve on juries. (We are not going to provide any notification to members who lose their jury privileges, because under the messed-up values of primary season we think many of you would see it as some kind of badge of honor.)

Skinner

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1013&pid=5098

Just sayin'...

[pdsimdars]

169. I think jurors like that #7 should be removed from the jury pool.

They don't have the judgement, discretion or mental discipline to be ruling on anything. Look at that unbalanced explanation.

Can someone put a stop to this kind of mind being on juries? It should be done.

[MrMickeysMom]

30. Seriously fucked up beyond belief...

This is what so-called democracy looks like under a corporate rule.

[NanceGreggs]

34. I don't see Hillary there ...

... so I'm wondering how she got "caught cheating".

" ... Hillary's women are just like her who cannot think for themselves and and take orders from men."

"In response to the male command, she ignores the motion ..."

Sexist much?

If the women who support Hillary "take orders from men", why aren't they all taking their orders from Bernie? Last I heard, he is of the male persuasion.

That "woman who cant think for herself" is on her way to the presidency of the United States, the most powerful position on the planet. She seems to think for herself rather well.

[fun n serious]

35. It's disgusting how the OP says it like that. nt

[Dem2]

50. Misogynist hate is allowed if the Bernie jury allows it

This is the most vile thread I've seen allowed on any forum in years.

Edit: right-click and google the subject of this thread, then look at transparency. That's all I'm going to say.

[Henhouse]

78. The poster may be a troll but the number of recs and the jury decision is beyond belief...nt

[Dem2]

80. The fact that people endorse the 'unknown' if it agrees with their biases

...is quite concerning to me. What's happening here?

[Henhouse]

97. I don't know....

I get asked to serve on a jury a few times a day when I'm online. I'll agree to serve but if I feel I that I can't be objective I'll cancel my decision to serve.

How anyone could rec this OP or vote to leave it shocks the hell out of me.

I'll be glad when this primary business is over....

[Dem2]

102. All the whinging about TOS violations and character assasination is par for the course though

It's distasteful, but it's politics - this is the time when it gets rough.

But this misogyny from a questionable poster is something else...

[Demsrule86]

160. I agree

It is disgusting and calls into question the jury system.

[NanceGreggs]

116. BS juries will allow ...

... anything as long as it's pro-Bernie and/or anti-HRC. Anything.

What's really mind-boggling is that this is NOT the most vile thread I've seen here. I've seen some that are actually worse.

[Dem2]

118. I'll grant that I've surely missed a few

How does something so blatant that was likely alerted on several times not get a review? ... perhaps it will eventually?

But of all the things to promote after all the accusations of misogyny in the recent past, it seems illogical to recommend this thread.

Politics sucks sometimes.

[NanceGreggs]

128. Oh, there's all kinds of ...

... "illogical" going on around here - and it's been going on for months.

A lot of people who "doth protest too much" when they are accused of being misogynists, or racists, or sexists often "rec" OPs that are literally dripping with any or all of the above.

Funny that, huh?

[Dem2]

131. I expect bitterness, childish accusations, rendering of clothing etc.

But I don't expect those who claim to have the moral and ethical high ground staked out (obviously this is hilarious in it's own right, but so be it) to promote this sort of low-brow misogyny. I'm sure many are commenting indirectly by not commenting, but the bigger person isn't afraid to take on their own side when they've veered too far to one side. Nobody wins in a gutter fight.

[NanceGreggs]

134. Well, it's the internetz ...

... where what people claim to be and who they really are can be very different things.

But then a thread like this one comes along, and who people really are - and what views they really hold - becomes apparent.

Despite all efforts not to do so, some people just can't help "outing" themselves in the end.

[Demsrule86]

137. The Lolita one was way worse...

That was the last straw...I blocked those that posted that filth. I never blocked anyone before.

[LiberalFighter]

81. They really need life experiences related to this before giving their opinion.

They likely know nothing about Roberts Rules what is included in bylaws for major organizations. Especially when it involves a convention. Like using a parliamentarian. I bet the man was that person.

[mcar]

94. The worst display of sexism and misogyny I've seen here

And that's saying something.

[BootinUp]

107. +1

[Henhouse]

40. "Hillary's women are just like her who cannot think for themselves and and take orders from men."?

I should have stopped reading this screed right after "military industrial complex" but I'm a gluton for punishment.....

[Demsrule86]

159. This clearly shows

the jury system is rigged in favor of Bernie supporters but the party is almost over. I never had anyone on ignore. But I put the worst of them on ignore...including the Lolita one. Honestly, it is almost over but this should never have been allowed.

[Squinch]

41. I don't even know when I took that wrong turn that ended me up in the Free Republic!

I thought I was going to Democratic Underground, but this is some serious, ignorant, conspiracy monger, fact-free, tea-bagger shit right here.

[Agschmid]

42. Ummm... Wtf?

A male comes and whispers something to the woman because Hillary's women are just like her who cannot think for themselves and and take orders from men.

[NewImproved Deal]

44. Inviting Barbara Boxer was an open Provocation.

She is not only a Clinton Machine hack of several decades, but she is a Clinton in-law---her daughter Nichole is married to Hillary's brother, Tony Rodham. One big cozy Oligarchy...

[link:|

[blue neen]

47. So, you don't like Hillary, you don't like Barbara Boxer,

you don't like Barbara Boxer's daughter...

[JSup]

56. Pretty Old Testament...

...the 'sins of the sister' and all that.

[blue neen]

64. .

Yep.

[Henhouse]

79. lol..n/t

[grasswire]

58. sounds about right to me.

But we don't like Hillary's brother Tony, either.

[blue neen]

67. I like the quote in your sig line.

Would you mind sharing the author?

[grasswire]

68. of course

There wasn't enough space to put his name in.

William Lloyd Garrison. Abolitionist.

[blue neen]

76. Actually, my research shows that this quote is attributed to Frederick Douglass.

Suffragist. Abolitionist.


"Those who profess to favor freedom and yet depreciate agitation, are people who want crops without ploughing the ground; they want rain without thunder and lightning; they want the ocean without the roar of its many waters. The struggle may be a moral one, or it may be a physical one, or it may be both. But it must be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will."

Thank you.

[grasswire]

113. I'm sorry. Yes, of course. Brain blip. nt

[riversedge]

87. Nina Turned spoke for Bernie and Boxer for Hillary today. Trying to Diss Boxer for

speaking for Hillary is so wrong.

[riversedge]

96. Oh, for petey sake--it was a short lived marriage and have been divorced at least 15 YEARS!.

Bringing that marriage and posting a pic of them --into this this thread just shows how Desperate you are. Shame on you.

[TwilightZone]

98. They've been divorced for 15 years.

[pdsimdars]

170. more family values

[Bobbie Jo]

48. This OP is a hot mess.

[rockfordfile]

51. No kidding

[Agschmid]

52. Yup.

[Number23]

62. As usual, you are far too kind. Jury left it 3-4 too. I was not the first alerter or dare I say,

the last.

[Bobbie Jo]

74. 54 recs and counting...

Isn't that special.

SMDH

[pa28]

54. Anyone doubting the fictional nature of the word "democratic" in Democratic party needs to see this.

Shameful display.

[pnwmom]

57. Proving even a self-professed "egalitegirl" can be a nasty misogynist.

"Hillary's women are just like her who cannot think for themselves and and take orders from men."

Sounds like projection to me -- from someone taking orders from men.

[JaneyVee]

60. MOAR TINFOIL ASAP!

[snowy owl]

69. Don't need to read posts to know corruption wins when it favors clinton. Sad. So sad.

And this is what you are all proud of?

[840high]

71. They are proud and don't

care. It's her turn.

[pdsimdars]

171. I often wonder what it will take for them to FINALLY have the scales fall off their eyes.

[apcalc]

73. We need primaries.

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Caucuses ROT.

[One Black Sheep]

82. Just was reading about this on Raw Story...they have many videos about it up as well.

Violence erupts at NV Democratic convention amid tensions between Clinton and Sanders supporters

The Democratic convention in Nevada turned violent on Saturday, with at least one fight breaking out, according to video posted Twitter users who were in attendance.

Tensions were high between supporters of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), the Las Vegas Sun reports. They apparently spilled over on the state convention floor.

People can be seen scuffling, and a woman says into a microphone, “We need a medic in the front, a medic in the front.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/violence-erupts-at-nv-democratic-convention-amid-tensions-between-clinton-and-sanders-supporters/

[riversedge]

84. Oh--you get the award for having the craziest post of the day. What a bunch of BULL

[Jitter65]

85. That!! nt

[synergie]

100. And the ratfuckers have taken over, when you quote Trump and say such vile

things as you try to defend BS's attempt to violate the will of voters, you proclaim what you are. Those WVa stats of all those Trump supporters who voted for Bernie really don't seem to be much of an anomaly at all.

[RichVRichV]

108. And yet the same exit poll you like to quote shows Bernie doing 8 points better against

Trump than Hillary does in WV. Imagine how much it would have been without the Trump supporters interfering.

We'll ignore the 15% of Hillary's vote that were from Republicans in that same exit poll.

While I don't condone the rhetoric from the op I understand the anger behind it. What is happening in Nevada is blatant in our face cheating. The difference between you and I is that I would be angry at this even if it favored my candidate. What is happening in Nevada is just wrong.

[synergie]

115. Um, sure, because it's WVa.

Full of angry white men who prefer other angry white men over a woman supported by a black man they hate.

How about we just ignore the fact that WVa is pretty conservative and voted against Obama too?

Sorry, but the "anger" behind it is pure hate and pure RW idiocy, you guys don't seem to understand the anger behind those of us who are listening to this misogyny from people pretending to progressives. What happened in Nevada is that Bernie supporters were prevented form blatant in your face cheating to steal a contest that Bernie lost. They lost seats by not following basic rules. the difference between you and I is that I don't condone RW hate, misogyny or cheating by people too dumb to follow simple rules.

I'm quite angry about what's happening in Nevada, I was angry when BSers pulled this crap in IA, and in that other NV convention. I'm just not excusing any of it when it's one candidate that's being slimed and cheated against by the people who are doing all the cheating and the sliming and ALSO accusing others falsely of their own actions.

This what CONS do. Look at the actual facts here and watch the videos with out the RW edit, and then see if you can manage to dredge up some anger since what your candidate's followers are doing should enrage and upset anyone who thinks democracy is something that's to be valued and for whom misogyny and RW hate is unacceptable no matter how much "anger" one feels about being thwarted from violating simple rules.

[RichVRichV]

117. You are lieing through your teeth.

Bernie and his supporters never cheated in Nevada. There isn't one shred of evidence they ever did. Hillary delegates didn't show up is what happened. All rules were followed by Bernie supporters. You are lieing to cover for the blatant caught on video cheating that is happening today by the state party to hand the win to Hillary.

I dare you to provide one shred of evidence that Bernie or his supporters cheated in any way in Nevada. Back up those lies with proof. You can't and we all know it.

[synergie]

145. Sorry, but I leave that to RWers and their tools.

There is more evidence of BS dirty tricks than HRCs. Yeah, when you tell the HRC delegates something false about when they're supposed to show up, but it's BERNIE's lies, that's not cheating on BS's part because his purity burns through any of the lies?

You're the one that's being dishonest here, with your numerous non-factual statements.

You just admitted what happened, but we know you can't figure out why you just exposed what happened, but we know you can't admit it, truth is hard for RWers and BSers apparently, but vile smears are so very easy, so that's what you engage in.

[RichVRichV]

164. Respond to post 142 if you have the guts.

It shows you're lying. The rules for running the caucuses are printed for the world to see. There was no cheating by Bernie, his campaign, or his supporters. The same can't be said of the state party or Hillary campaign.

[synergie]

186. Sorry, but again, the facts are that BSers simply did not follow the rules

and as usual are belligerent, demanding and dishonest. If you had the guts or the brains you would understand simple facts, but apparently reading rules and complying with them us just not something that you have the guts to do. There was cheating by BS last time, his campaign and his supporters deal with everything that does not go their way by getting aggressive, violent and dishonest as your post shows. The party is not cheating you, nor is HRC, you are just LOSING. People are not buying BS. Yelling at us, screaming at us, threatening us and pulling dirty tricks to steal delegates you did not win simply is not working. Gave the guts to face reality, it shows you are lying, and too terrified to accept why or how.

You have a nice day now, and do try to get a grip all this anger and dishonest ranting is not good for your health, and you have so much more disappointment ahead of you and more losses you need create total fiction to explain, since we know you are too frightened to deal with things like math and reality.

[RichVRichV]

188. Hahaha, save the condescending bullshit for someone else.

You're a typical Hillary supporter who ignores evidence as it's presented to you because it goes against your bias. I proved the email sent to the delegates was in fact truthful. I even quoted the paragraphs that proved it and linked to the official delegate selection plan written by the Nevada state party and approved by the DNC. I linked proof that the delegate email wasn't why the Hillary campaign got Christine Kramar sacked. It was because she passed an email from the Hillary campaign that they considered confidential (ignoring that she had a responsibility to provide all material to all campaigns in order to do her duties in an unbiased manner), had nothing whatsoever to do with the delegate email you like to go on about. That delegate email is one big fat red herring. I even showed that the two Hillary supporters on the credentials committee backed Christine Kramar when she was ousted.


You haven't proven any part of your argument. All you've got is accusations and innuendo that you "know is true" because you "just know it's true". You can't provide one shred of evidence to show it's actually true.

[BootinUp]

101. Your post is rather offensive and crazy you know. Suggest

you think about editing out the slur against women at a minimum. Its this kind of stuff that not only affects how you are viewed here but also other BS supporters and the campaign itself.

As far as how many yeas and nays there were, clearly there were both, and watching that video is not a good way to determine which side prevailed.

[TwilightZone]

104. "because Hillary's women...cannot think for themselves and take orders from men"

Wow, I have no idea why some people think that some of Bernie Sanders' supporters are sexist.

None at all. I have no idea what could possibly give them that impression.

[JoePhilly]

174. + 1

[Loki]

109. You seem to be projecting again, egalitegirl

Men whispering in women's ears and telling them what to do? Must happen at your home regularly, but there would be hell to pay if it happened at mine. You don't know Jack when it comes to Democratic women, and it doesn't surprise me.

[cry baby]

111. I cannot wait til bullshit like this is no longer allowed here at DU. nt

[synergie]

112. So here's what actually went down, the dishonest op is not telling the truth here.

https://twitter.com/RalstonReports/status/731683071058042881

The delegates didn't follow the basic rules, and thus they failed the credential check, their personal failures, not someone plotting against them.

[Squinch]

150. It always is the same with the Bros. 1) Fuck up because you are not prepared or you don't understand

the process. 2) Blame Hillary and "the oligarchy" 3) whine loudly and bring a specious lawsuit 4) Lose.

[synergie]

155. Now they are throwing "turn into a violent mob" into the mix!

[zappaman]

119. Kick for the laughs!

[OhZone]

129. She won Nevada.

And then she won Nevada.

What's the issue?

[Jester Messiah]

135. I'm surprised there hasn't been violence yet.

This kind of shit... it kind of leaves that door hanging open.

[Demsrule86]

136. I don't think I would want to make this a big deal

You cheated first and that sort of makes Bernie look really bad. It looks to me like tonight was fair and just...definintely.

[Corporate666]

138. You sound silly

I'm sorry, whining about "corporations and the military industrial complex" just totally eliminates any credibility your complaint may have.

Regardless of whether either of those things are bad - they have NOTHING to do with this situation. Conflating the two simply tells me you are unable to make a cogent point and are just flinging shit at the wall, hoping something will stick. Or you have so little respect for fellow DUers that you think the mere mention of evil buzzwords is enough to set off the ignorant masses, and you don't need to explain yourself to them.

[johnp3907]

139. Meanwhile, back on planet Earth............

[Tarc]

143. What this is is something generally referred to as "course correction"

The Sanders camp tried to snake delegates that they didn't earn a ways back, now that is apparently being set right.

[highprincipleswork]

151. This seems to be corruption, pure and simple. If they play it this way, this year is toast for Dems.

[Demsrule86]

156. I have an issue with your post

You stole the delegates in April by sending letters to Clinton supporters with the wrong time..the woman who did it was fired Thus democracy was thwarted by you in April...when you overturned a primary by sleazy tricks and gave yourself and unearned victory. Shame on you for stealing what was mostly minority votes.

[HereSince1628]

161. The Us vs Them thing knows few bounds, and when power is involved, well...

It's plagued humanity for as long as there has been history.

No group controlling power cedes it willingly. And the fight for control has been revealed this election cycle more than others.

Thanks to the internet, there is awareness of the voter registration problems from across the country. In context, if not intent, it is not clearly distinguishable from what deliberate acts against opponents would look like. And participants of the Democratic primaries and caucuses from across the country are very aware of that.

This event, along with the previous events, is another wedge that will contribute to impediments of unification.

[JTFrog]

163. The 110 people who rec'd this sexist bullshit can never again deny the existence of BernieBros and

the misogyny they love to spread far and wide on the internet. Let this be exhibit 1,000,472,137,444.

As you can see clearly, a motion for recount is placed before the chair. A male comes and whispers something to the woman because Hillary's women are just like her who cannot think for themselves and and take orders from men.

In response to the male command, she ignores the motion for a recount and claims that there is a motion to change the rules.

OP has already been locked out of the thread for continuing to post sexist shit.

[Il_Coniglietto]

166. Schadenfreude...the Germans got it right

Because I know on January 20, 2017 that woman who, as you call her, "cannot think for herself and takes orders from men" will be sworn in as President of the United States. That will be a beautiful day.

So type up whatever ridiculous, misogynist screed you want. Ain't gonna change a thing. Ain't gonna change my vote nor those of the MILLIONS of Americans who support Hillary over anyone else.

And you and all the folks who rec'd this thread know it.

Enjoy!!!

[pdsimdars]

173. If she is the nominee she will lost to Trump. It's almost a given.

[Il_Coniglietto]

176. Nope!

Millions of us are working to make sure that doesn't happen, and we will succeed!

[leftofcool]

179. Horse shit! You think Latinos and AAs won't come out to vote?

You do realize that no one can win a general election without that demographic?

[pdsimdars]

172. The ISSUE ??????

I still don't understand why any Hillary supporter can actually address an ISSUE.
The author was deeply offended by this PERVERSION of Democracy, and maybe said something that might offend. But get a grip.

Hillary's campaign is lying, cheating and stealing right out in the open, caught on camera, and YOUR biggest concern is to attack the messenger for a comment you may not agree with? Really? Do any of you give a crap about the country at all? Or is it just about getting your own way? Doesn't matter how low you have to go, just as long as you get what you want? Because it is very hard to tell from what you post.

[TwilightZone]

175. "The author was deeply offended"

No, the author was deeply offensive. People who call themselves liberals and progressives and then wholeheartedly support this rant are neither.

Besides, as has been documented elsewhere in this thread and others, the blame lies firmly on Sanders supporters who didn't know the rules, changed party affiliation before yesterday, and/or didn't bother to show up.

Edit: Oh, and brought in from California. Oops.:

[felix_numinous]

178. Fraud caught right on video

Do they actually believe we are going to go along with this? That the stadiums of awake people are going to self lobotomize and convert to mindless cool aide drinking zombies? I don't think so.

[Florencenj2point0]

180. someone in the middle of a crowd of very loud bernie supporters

take a video with his/her iphone and it sounds like the ayes have it. I am SHOCKED!

Furthermore what is the evil rule? You have to be a democrat to be a seated delegate.

[Buddyblazon]

181. While the commentary the OP used is terribly unfortunate....

Seeing that type of behavior in Nevada...pretty disgusting.

Behavior like that does the opposite of unify the party.

[Land of Enchantment]

182. Ugh. Typical of what's to come....nt

[Aerows]

183. What a pile of bullshit.

I am going to be the first one to say "I told you so" (because I have, repeatedly and I am by no means alone on DU to have stated this in no uncertain terms).

When election fraud costs the Democratic party MULTIPLE elections in state races and in the presidential race I don't want to hear from one single person that smugly denied that there have been repeated instances of electoral fraud during the primary.

I don't want to hear one single person yell "Nader". If you have turned a blind eye to the multitude of "voting irregularities" and somehow think that all will be hunky dory in November, get ready, because this is what you will hear:

[font size=6 color=maroon] WE TOLD YOU SO![/font]

[cagefreesoylentgreen]

187. The only ones getting fooled here

The only ones getting fooled here are the "Hillary or Bust" folks, and their willingness to cheat for their candidate. And Hillary's silence on the issue is deafening.

As the saying goes, there are none so blind than those who will not see.

[anotherproletariat]

189. I didn't realize Hillary was in Nevada recently. Seems strange since their primary is over. nt

[JTFrog]

190. Another troll bites the dust after getting 130 rec's on a disgustingly sexist OP.

No way you get unflagged after you put your disgusting sexism on display. Good riddance.

And I'm glad someone brought this thread up in Ask The Administrators. Sure wish they would consider PPR's for people who encourage this nasty shit. Those who let it stand and those who reccomended it. How very liberal and progressive of you folks.

[PeaceNikki]

192. Aaaaaaaaand, it's banned.

[tammywammy]

193. The disgusting troll has now been banned.

Lovely to see so many recs on this POS thread.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

197. She was propping up Trump and I called her out.

Somebody can do a search if they question my veracity.

[Number23]

200. Can someone do an AtA about the 134 rec'ers of this moronic garbage?

[BainsBane]

195. Any change in the agenda first requires a motion to suspend the rules

I sat through hours of this the weekend before last. it's how conventions work.

Your sexist comments about women being unable to think for themselves is ironic considering you glob on to the first conspiracy theory that comes along and don't bother to learn about the proceedings. It also confirms to me the extend to which opposition to Clinton is about undermining my equal rights as a woman in this country.

[MaeScott]

198. Crooked is as crooked does and she will be a crooked Pres if elected.

[Beaverhausen]

199. Thank you Donald Trump

geez- you can't even figure out another ugly name to call her?