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Texin

(2,596 posts)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:07 PM Oct 2012

Jeff Greenwald stated that O could lose the popular vote but still win the election,

http://news.yahoo.com/why-hurricane-sandy-might-cost-obama-the-popular-vote-but-not-the-presidency-1030125687.html

his statement premised on the state of things on the East Coast following this storm. Anyone else been thinking that something like this is actually quite likely? As much as I was appalled by the atrocity of the storm, I couldn't help myself from thinking the same thing. What are the odds that polling places will be up and running next Tuesday, never mind the fact that these folks are going to be in a state of shock for some time to come.

I can't help but worry about this and is it even in the realm of possibility that millions of votes lost in the metropolitan citites of the Northeast could actually even cost Obama the whole thing?
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Jeff Greenwald stated that O could lose the popular vote but still win the election, (Original Post) Texin Oct 2012 OP
BULLSHIT Allan Licthman has said Obama curtain to win the popular vote bigdarryl Oct 2012 #1
I'm not being flip. Who is Allan Licthman? Texin Oct 2012 #4
A History Professor At American University DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #9
Yeah, what happened to Greenfield? Did he start taking himself too seriously and just CTyankee Oct 2012 #14
He Was An Aide To Bobby Kennedy DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #17
Isn't President Obama ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2012 #5
It depends on what polls you choose to look at. former9thward Oct 2012 #21
Fine with me. BlueDemKev Oct 2012 #2
this mac56 Oct 2012 #8
I worry about dems on the east coast staying home do to the disaster. JRLeft Oct 2012 #3
Well, it won't just be the Dems. I can't believe those rethugs affected will be Texin Oct 2012 #6
Oh my goodness, you worried again? CTyankee Oct 2012 #15
that has always been possible in any presidential election treestar Oct 2012 #7
First...early voting favors Dems. Reps scream it and Dems cheer it. Sheepshank Oct 2012 #10
If that happens creeksneakers2 Oct 2012 #11
It could effect overall turnout in the region fujiyama Oct 2012 #12
NJ and NY and CT will be okay. Jennicut Oct 2012 #13
How can Obama lose his popularity when his popularity numbers are high than Romney Hutzpa Oct 2012 #16
Pepperoni ... GeorgeGist Oct 2012 #18
It's Jeff GreenFIELD ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #19
Nate silver puts that probability at just 4.6% RomneyLies Oct 2012 #20
 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
1. BULLSHIT Allan Licthman has said Obama curtain to win the popular vote
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:09 PM
Oct 2012

That's what his keys are based on

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
14. Yeah, what happened to Greenfield? Did he start taking himself too seriously and just
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:39 PM
Oct 2012

give up and go with the flow?

He was once considered a strong liberal. Now he's a real part of the Establishment.

Texin

(2,596 posts)
6. Well, it won't just be the Dems. I can't believe those rethugs affected will be
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:12 PM
Oct 2012

breaking their asses to get to the polls either.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
15. Oh my goodness, you worried again?
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:40 PM
Oct 2012

Press a cool, wet cloth on your forehead. It'll make things better...

treestar

(82,383 posts)
7. that has always been possible in any presidential election
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:13 PM
Oct 2012

I don't see the laws conniving at allowing millions to be disenfranchised due to this storm. There are ways around it.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
10. First...early voting favors Dems. Reps scream it and Dems cheer it.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:17 PM
Oct 2012

so if anyone is going to be more negatively impacted, it'll be the Reps.

The voting ballots have been secured and saved. They didn't put them in boxes in the basements, for crying out loud!

Obama will be winning both the popularity AND the electoral votes this November.

fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
12. It could effect overall turnout in the region
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:25 PM
Oct 2012

but since most, if not all of the states affected were strongly blue it's unlikely to have an impact on the electoral vote.

But Obama's popular vote could be impacted since the region is a stronghold for him. It's hard to say how down ticket races will be affected. Who knows if this has any effect on the CT Senate race. Maybe someone more familiar with statewide races in the region can provide more insight.

Either way, it's incredibly devastating and I can see why Christie basically said "fuck the politics". This will quite some time to clean up. The photos on the Atlantic are really something.

http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/10/hurricane-sandy-after-landfall/100396/

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
13. NJ and NY and CT will be okay.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:29 PM
Oct 2012

DE and MD have some power outage issues too. They are going to use paper ballots in these states and switch locations for polling places if need be. Even in these blue states turnout is usually high.

But we are not babies on the east coast. We are used to crappy weather. Power outages are not uncommon here with even snow storms. I lost power during the freak October snow storm in Connecticut last year.

Bad weather really does not stop us from doing much. Drive through snow? We do it all the time to work and school. Rain is nothing to most of us. Power outages and some loss of mass transit will be a pain in the ass but not really deter most people here that want to vote.

Hutzpa

(11,461 posts)
16. How can Obama lose his popularity when his popularity numbers are high than Romney
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:41 PM
Oct 2012

riddle me that genius Greenwald.

 

RomneyLies

(3,333 posts)
20. Nate silver puts that probability at just 4.6%
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:50 PM
Oct 2012

Obama is more likely to pick up a state he did not win in 2008, 5.4%.

I trust Nate's probability forecasts.

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