Wow. This photo.

[bigtree]

Eric Boehlert ?@EricBoehlert 1h1 hour ago

wow. this photo. Sanders fans yelling at Clinton supporter attending event. kinda sums up primary season

[uponit7771]

1. Yeap, the purist usually don't do the ground work either... vote for one person to do everything

... Obama's Morehouse speech was eye opening

[AgingAmerican]

61. Central Americans Latinos protesting Hillary's actions in Central America!`

How dare they! Must be Bernie Bro's!!

[kerry-is-my-prez]

68. Looks like the Trump hooligans except they are Latino. It's the year of the angry male......

Usually bullying a black woman for some reason....

[SFnomad]

75. Angrywhitemanistan ... both the right and left live there n/t

[unapatriciated]

80. yeah that's what it is.....not

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511918653#post17

[okasha]

82. I see maybe 3-4 identifiable Latinos

in that picture, lots of white guys, one racially unidentifiable person wearing a hammer and sickle scarf over the f ace and a white girl with a Mexican flag.

There's a video of the same crowd with sound, and the crowd is chanting BERNIE! BERNIE!

Nice try, though.

[mehneh]

109. Ugh this comment makes me cringe.

This comment is personally insulting to every skin color and actually does more harm than good in the category of racism. There are plenty of light skin Latinos (specifically in south America) but you're pegging them with "white privilege" in this photo to write them off as crazy white people. I've seen this too much from Democrats and PC culture. You make "whiteness" something to discredit and you prop up brown and black people with "SPECIAL" VALIDITY? No one needs special treatment. We are all equal and you're proving that YOU'RE RACIST. Also you're insulting all kinds of light-skinned people who identify with their culture and home countries but look like a " racially unidentifiable" so you assume. This also hurts halfies and people anyone born from one country (Example: Honduras) and lives in an ethnically different country (Like Korea or Egypt).

[JPnoodleman]

114. You only get to be a "PoC," until you become inconvenient. n/t

[SMC22307]

118. "Identifiable" by whom? You?

Camp Weathervane is now "self-reporting" the race and ethnicity of anti-Hillary protesters?

Too fucking funny.

[hrmjustin]

2. Digusting and disgraceful behavior.

[DrDan]

6. yet not surprising

[pangaia]

102. Sure beats bombing the wrong fucking country, eh.

[panader0]

112. You mean like this guy?

http://www.newsmax.com/CMSPages/GetFile.aspx?guid=a4c48514-722f-47c8-946a-61ec0e1bd5f6&SiteName=Newsmax&maxsidesize=600

[hrmjustin]

113. Wow! You go to newsmax to get a picture of Bill Clinton with a bullhorn.

Pathetic.

[KingFlorez]

3. I would have thrown mints at them

"Your breathe smells like hot garbage, so you need to quit yelling at me and get to brushing"

[Henhouse]

9. lol...n/t

[WhiteTara]

16. In the moment, I think she felt traumatized

with grown men screaming in her face with their bullhorns.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

110. Traumatized? Seriously?

Annoyed or angry - probably. But if you think people yelling during a protest gathering is traumatizing, you've never been to a protest gathering, or your skin is awfully thin. People yell. Sometimes they are angry and rude and use bad language. But here there's no indication that these guys were threatening the woman or even that they were targeting her, personally, to yell at. And if the pic was taken with a telephoto lens she could have been ten feet or so away from them. If there were no threats, pushing, shoving or any kind of violence at this protest there's no reason for her to have been "traumatized," unless maybe she posts on DU.

[SMC22307]

120. She's smiling. Not all women are shrinking violets...

me included.

[suffragette]

90. So you assume Chicano protesters have bad breath. Huh.

Why is that?

[KingFlorez]

95. You are the one who brought that into it, not me

Why did you feel the need to do that? Ask yourself the question.

[Dem2]

111. That was weird

[suffragette]

119. No, your 1st reaction was to look at their picture and comment on their breath

Rather than on any policy and issue disagreements that formed the basis for their protest.

Here is more info on the organization of the protests:

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Los-Angeles-Latino-Activists-Protest-Against-Hillary-Clinton---20160505-0034.html

Community groups in Los Angeles are holding demonstrations on Thursday to protest the policies of Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, who will deliver a speech to university students at the city’s East Los Angeles College, or ELAC.

The protest organizers, which includes representatives from several groups including Unión del Barrio - Los Angeles, MEXA de ELAC, the Los Angeles Brown Berets, Red Guards LA, Todo Poder al Pueblo Collective, and many others, warn that Clinton’s foreign and domestic policy would have negative impacts on working class inner-city and immigrant communities across the country.

"This event is to let Hillary know that she is not welcomed in Los Angeles and to raise community awareness of what she really represents,” the event organizers said in a press release via Facebook.

As part of the Thursday protests, organizers are hoping to spread awareness regarding Hillary Clinton’s support for controversial foreign policy decisions throughout the region of Central America and the Middle East during her tenure as the country’s secretary of state.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. Two points

1) That guy looks unhinged and easily capable of violence.
2) Imagine when the president campaigns for her and these miscreants heckle him.

[MoonRiver]

5. Sickening!

[Nye Bevan]

7. Hey.... that's DU, but in real life! (nt)

[Henhouse]

8. Bernie followers are convinced that the ugly protesters are Hillary plants. sighs...nt

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

10. I see no indication that these are "Sanders fans."

Or, for that matter, that the woman in the foreground is a Clinton supporter. I see a Mexican flag and a guy in some sort of Native garb. As I understand it these people were protesting immigration policies.

Anyhow, last I heard, peaceful protests were OK things, even if sometimes people get offended by them.

[In_The_Wind]

19. I agree with you.

[WhiteTara]

20. Did that really look peaceful to you?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

24. I don't see anyone touching anyone else, throwing things,

or doing anything but apparently yelling. I've been to peaceful protest gatherings dating back to the '60s, and most of them were noisy. Yelling almost always happens at protests; do you expect protesters to just stand there silently, holding their signs and smiling? Delicate flowers who can't stand yelling should bring earplugs.

[passiveporcupine]

74. peaceful means no violence, no breaking the law

Shouting is often done at protests. How do you consider that non-peaceful? Or are all protests supposed to be people sitting on the ground in silence while being sprayed in the face with mace?

So Hillary supporters are always nice and quiet when protesting?

first they silence the Bernie supporters (by shouting him down and then voting that he can't even speak) and then kick them out of the caucus, and then the Hillary leader calls Bernie a Socialist Jew. Now which is worse? Being shouted at with the words "fuck you by one guy"? or being silenced by a room full of Hillary supporters who can't even listen to a Bernie supporter and then use bigoted language against Bernie to insult him.

Yep...Bernie supporters are really violent and evil.

I'm wondering if this isn't a little bit of jealousy over the crowds that Bernie gets, whether it be a rally or a protest. Hillary just doesn't seem to invite much energy from her base. Her people may show up and vote, but they sure aren't trying to get her message across to anyone else. I wonder why? It's almost like they don't care about anyone but those who vote for her...those blacks and Hispanics and especially those young whites who don't support her...they just don't count. Not their voices or their very real needs. It is the message I see here all the time. If I were you I'd want to win that energy over to my side, not try to discount them all or try to label them as nasty and violent.

[seabeyond]

83. Intimidation. And that is what that is about. Standing over them, being aggressive.

[passiveporcupine]

85. Following them and shouting as they stalk them,

or blocking their way while screaming in their face is intimidation. Standing on the side-lines yelling and chanting is just protesting. Until someone gets physical, or spits on them or something like that, it's not intimidation. If they were shouting that they were going to hurt them or kill them, that would be intimidation.

You guys are such victims, it just kills me.

[seabeyond]

88. Men, standing over those wlaking by, children, women, unable to defend. Too close, yelling, hateful

[passiveporcupine]

89. Oh please.

There should be someone handing out kittens.

Jesus people, knock off the drama queen stuff.

[seabeyond]

93. No

[passiveporcupine]

94. No surprise here

[seabeyond]

97. No surprise that bullying and intimidation is acceptable with Sanders supporters.

[passiveporcupine]

98. If only that were true.

but it's not. It's more accurately coming from all the Hillary supporters here who have long lists of hides in their transparency page. That shows who is really into bullying and intimidating. I've been putting them on ignore left and right lately because there are so many of them. And you guys all seem OK with that and keep patting each other on the back for threads and posts that are pretty nasty.

And again, you are not one to talk...look at your hides.

[seabeyond]

101. Do... put me on ignore.

[passiveporcupine]

108. Thanks for responding.

I meant to do it and I got sidetracked. Now on with your collection of hides.

Bye!

[lumberjack_jeff]

79. Yes. n/t

[SMC22307]

122. What do you expect at these protests... tea and scones?

They're protesting Hillary's role in the Honduran coup. Why does Camp Weathervane think said protests should be pretty? It's really bizarre. Is it from too much time online and not enough time out in the real world, at real protests? Truly bizarre.

[Dale Neiburg]

29. And one man in the back is wearing a hammer and sickle!

My guess is GOP pretending to be Bernie supporters (not to say we don't have our share of bums too).

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

38. There was a guy whose name was Phil Parlock (or something like that)

who, carrying a McCain sign, would bring his young kid to McCain rallies. His two older sons, wearing Obama t-shirts, would tear his McCain signs out of his hands - all staged to make (fake) pro-Obama protesters look like abusive thugs. Might that sort of thing be happening again this time?

[frylock]

47. That happened in 2004.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

49. Could it happen again?

Yup.

[frylock]

52. No doubt.

I hear that some "Bernie supporters" were sporting gear with hammer and sickle.

[villager]

53. And politics has only been pure, clean, transparent and tidy since then!

[Warren DeMontague]

107. Guy has a hammer and sickle bandana- so he MUST be a berniebro!

Derp derp.

[Peregrine Took]

11. Oh the horror of it. Come on! If you are a delicate flower stay home.

Politics ain't beanbag. This is deadly serious business folks. People aren't messing around.

I have a hunch that woman was doing something to inflame the sign people and some wiseacre took the shot just then. Its a partial action scene - where is the rest of it?

Reminds me of my outrageously outspoken SIL. S
he will get in someone's face in a restaurant or store and when the person reacts in kind she runs home to my brother and tells them what a horrible person she encountered. After this happened a few times he got wise to her and would say - ok - start from the beginning - what did YOU do to provoke them????

[bigtree]

15. I always carry my 'Liar, Liar, Liar' sign and bullhorn for just that possibility

[JTFrog]

18. Yea, that was a pretty lame excuse/accusation.

And there has been no shortage of those the last two days.

[CoffeeCat]

27. Six in ten American do not trust Hillary Clinton

That sign represents the majority opinion in this country.

Man, including myself, believe that she is a "liar" and that she is untrustworthy.

What's so absolutely horrific about a sign that says "liar."?

Still not getting the faux outrage.

[KittyWampus]

65. six in ten Americans fall for rightwing bullsh*t about her. And apparently

that includes some number of Sanders supporters, if GDP is any indication.

[CoffeeCat]

66. We're rational, adults who have followed Clinton for decades

We don't appreciate her corruption. Her lies. Her warmongering. Her cozying up to corporations--which is an affront to our democracy.

We're not children. You need to just calm down and realize that not everyone who disagrees with you is some kind of victim of "right-wing bullshit."

Who gives a damn what right-wingers have to say.

[Henhouse]

37. LOL....n/t

[SwampG8r]

73. Just using bullhorns to get attention

You know.......like bill.did in mass.
Funny how that was ok

[seabeyond]

84. Because intimidation should be applauded, only if you are the aggressor.

[okasha]

92. Yep, it's always a woman's fault.

You're in the wrong century, dude.

[Walk away]

12. Typical Bernie Follower!

What else is new?

[CoffeeCat]

13. Those protesters were there, situated at that site

and people were walking by. That woman was one of the people who walked by.

Wow. Talk about making mountains out of mole hills.

Are you done being ridiculous for the day?

What do you think happens at a protest...knitting?

People yell, scream.. Dear God, sometimes they chant!!!

This faux outrage schtick is a bit bizarre.

[seabeyond]

86. A bunch of aggressive men, towering those walking by, too close. Angry, yell. You are ok with this?

[Kittycat]

91. Purling in Anger: arrest at "knit-in" protest

Damn Hippy grandmas and their yarn, trying to end oil pipelines! We need to crack down on first Ammendment rights.

I remember this story way back, and had to go find it.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/07/03/328163481/purling-in-anger-arrest-breaks-up-knit-in-at-vermont-utility

Seriously though, Poutrage level red around here lately! Since when are democrats anti-first Ammendment? FFS our party has truly morphed to the elephant zone. Someone get me a box of mice, so I can scare them back to the other side.

[NurseJackie]

14. What disgusting creatures they are.

[CoffeeCat]

21. Are you guys doing your best impression

of 1950's bridge-club members?

"I do declare! First, these hooligans yelled. Then, they held up signs! Then they yelled some more! Such horrible, disgusting creatures! Why...they almost made me drop my new parasol. I was just so terrified! Watercress sandwich anyone?"

[NurseJackie]

25. So you're making it personal? What exactly is it that YOU are trying to impersonate?

I suppose that criticizing our response is one way to deflect from their behavior. (But I should point out that it's not a very effective way.)

[CoffeeCat]

30. Sorry, you and your friends sound ridiculous

I don't find it horrific when protesters yell, chant and hold up signs. I don't see any reason to "deflect". They're protesters at a protest. They didn't hurt anyone.

I don't get it.

The whole faux outrage theater is beyond silly.

[casperthegm]

17. I'm assuming you have evidence?

Anything that shows that these people are Bernie Sanders supporters?

I will say this, whoever it is that is protesting, yes it's their right, but what they are doing is attempting to drown out the voice of the opposition. No matter how much someone may dislike, suspect (or even know) that the opposition is a terrible choice for the country, I think that person should have the right to be heard and the people to make their decisions accordingly. Hopefully they are informed decisions. But as a Bernie supporter I hope that his fellow supporters don't participate in these activities. And again, is there any proof that they are participating?

[WhiteTara]

23. Well, their bullhorns will make sure their voices are heard. nt

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

28. Last I heard the First Amendment doesn't exclude bullhorns.

It's OK to protest even if you're loud.

[casperthegm]

46. ok, so there is no evidence then? Thank you.

As a Bernie supporter I'm prepared to say that purposely trying to prevent free speech is wrong.

At the same time, HRC supporters have a responsibility to present a factual case. I've asked for evidence to show that this crowd is made up of Sanders supporters. I have seen none.

[WhiteTara]

70. I may have posted

to the wrong reply. I never said they were Bernie supporters. I simply said their bullhorns make their voices heard.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

33. They are clearly protesting outside the gathering.

There is no indication that anyone's voice was drowned out or that anyone was prevented from speaking.

[Armstead]

22. Yes we now hate demonstrations and protests

I guess the interruptions of Bernie that Clinton supporters defended so aggressively at the beginning of the campaign were okay because they were directed personally at him.

[m-lekktor]

26. They stopped liking BLM protestors once they started protesting Hillary events all the time. nt

[Armstead]

32. Yep. Useful when smearing Bernie and setting herself up as the champion on social issues

But "bad mean Berniebros" when the tables are turned.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

31. It's always a matter of whose ox is being gored.

If you want to protest anybody but Hillary it's perfectly OK, even if you use a bullhorn and say impolite things. But if you're protesting outside a Hillary gathering you are being outrageous and rude and reprehensible and, of course, sexist.

[cali]

34. There is nothing that indicates they are Sanders supporters

Grinned up dog shit.from the hill camp

[CoffeeCat]

36. And even if they were Bernie protesters...So what?

They're holding up signs, they're yelling. They're drawing attention to themselves.

I don't even care who these people are.

I am more intrigued by the faux outrage from the Clinton camp. It's hilarious.

[bkkyosemite]

35. I see no Bernie t-shirts, buttons, hats, signs...give me a break.

[Beacool]

39. Yeah, that and the "f*ck you" chanting was charming.........

Particularly since children were walking by too on their way to Hillary's rally.

Stay classy, people........

[Armstead]

43. I assume your decorous standards will be maintained if people protest trump during the General

[Beacool]

50. Deflecting much?

Yes, I do expect Democrats to behave better than Trump supporters and not yell "f*ck you" when children walk by. We don't have to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

[Armstead]

40. Oh Media Matters....No context....Very telling

And unless my eyes deceive me, i see a Mexican flag and others indications that this may be more of an immigration oriented peotest

[Duckhunter935]

41. Don't see any Bernie signs or clothing

So anyone that protests Hillary's immigration statements is a Bernie supporter, who knew. Eric Boehlert, where have I heard of him?

[jillan]

42. Oh looky - another Clinton supporter wanting to take away our First Amendment.

Just because you don't like why someone is protesting does not make it wrong.

[workinclasszero]

44. Do all of Sander's supporters wear red bandanna's covering most of their face

with a hammer and sickle on them like that bro in the pic??

[frylock]

51. No, but agents provocateur might pull something like that for effect.

[workinclasszero]

55. Yeah sure

[frylock]

57. I mean, we ALL know they're Bernie supporters, because a Hillary Supporter on teh Twitter sez so.

And we know how much they're into accuracy.

[Ned_Devine]

45. Where are the Bernie signs? You are so fucking desperate

[workinclasszero]

54. Watch the video

All you can hear is the mob screaming BERNIE! BERNIE! BERNIE!...and...F*CK YOU F*CK YOU!!!


https://twitter.com/SAConScene/status/728388122304598016

[Henhouse]

62. Thanks for posting...They asked for video....so here it is....n/t

[workinclasszero]

64. And theres the proof

Sanders needs to suspend his lost campaign now, its getting out of hand with these Trump-like mobs.

[frylock]

48. Good luck with this tactic in the GE.

[KPN]

56. Sanders fans?

Where's your proof of that? They are Hillary haters, yeah, but this wasn't organized by any Bernie for President organization.

[Kip Humphrey]

58. The nerve of those hispanic protesters! How dare they exercise their 1st amendment rights

to protest against Hillary! I'll bet some are undocumented rabble rousers too!

For the low information reader:

[AgingAmerican]

60. Central Americans protesting Hillary's actions in Central America!`

How dare they!

[AgingAmerican]

59. Latinos protesting Hillarys actions in Honduras

But don't let that stop you from repeating your DNC issued talking point.

[vintx]

78. Apparently her fans think supporting a coup is no biggie!

[floppyboo]

63. Yup, sums it up. Clinton supporters driving wedges and using fear again.

I see indigenous, muslim, AA, Indian, women - So ya, it sums it up. Big media war full of hateful propaganda from the Hillary campaign to drive wedges. Not a hell of a lot better than Trump.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

67. Or maybe the two fringe candidates incite violence.

[floppyboo]

69. that would be a 'neat' historical narrative, but I would argue that Hillary is the fringe

Why is she out courting Bush surrogates? Why is DWS fighting Elizabeth Warren on payday loans?
Where are your people now?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

71. Courting Bush donors does/does not equal inciting violence.

[floppyboo]

76. Neither does 'fringe' so can we agree - enough of convenient equivalencies?

There is no logic in this, and if you continue to hold your course, you leave yourself open to many attacks.
Hillary, on the other hand, will not behave this way. Far too dangerous with Trump and his 'no holds barred' approach.

Bernie himself has not behaved in any improprietous way either. People sympathetic to his cause on the other hand have been arrested for civil disobedience in record numbers lately in DC. But they are sympathizers, not there just because of him.

For instance, I like parks. My mayor likes parks. I did not vote for my mayor for (x) reason. Therefore, I like parks. That's pretty much all you can conclude.

editing - so tempted to give you some primo Hillary examples of where your logic leads you, but I'll let Trump do it.

Talk instead about the beauty of the right to protest - one of the great things to be proud about in this country. Ugly is not pretty, and there are consequences, but make sure those barbs land on the right target. And sometimes, ugly is called for!

[NurseJackie]

72. OMG! He reminds me of the "Full Metal Jacket" guy!

and the BULLY older-brother guy "Chet" from "Weird Science".



but here's how I see them ...

[cherokeeprogressive]

117. No surprise. You probably equate the Full Metal Jacket Guy to Sanders supporters I bet.

You know, war-mongering types? That's what Sanders supporters are, right?

Fucking incredible.

Those weren't Sanders supporters. They were Trumpeteers and that was warm chocolate chip cookies fresh out of the oven compared to the cold hard shit sandwiches Hillary and her supporters are going to be subjected to over the next 6 months.

Get used to it.

[NurseJackie]

121. He certainly had that crazy eyed look ...

... didn't he?

[cherokeeprogressive]

123. The crazed eyed look of a Sanders supporting war-monger?

You'd have better luck finding a Yeti.

[NurseJackie]

124. You'll have to check and see if that's what I said ...

... or if that's your imagination at work again.

[Metric System]

77. What exactly is the point of shouting at Hillary supporters, including children? Do they think they

will change minds?

[JCanete]

81. Bad form of you to try to conflate a movement that is about

uniting middle class and poor people against a common threat, with examples that YOU choose to characterize as typical Sanders supporters. Your proof that they are Sanders supporters is weak, and what IS DIVISIVE, is to characterize a whole movement based upon the worst anonymous actors of the bunch. This isn't originating from a place of real outrage. It is a tactic.

I'll accept your claim that there are ignorant, and even abusive Sanders supporters, but if they are attacking ordinary people with this vitriol, then they don't get the movement they think they're a part of. If there are organized examples of Bernie supporters that promote mysogony or racism, or any kind of violence, then yes, I for one disavow them, but these examples are just not convincing to me that they even come close to defining our movement. But I guess that's your job right? To try to make sure this is how we are defined? Shame.

[Prism]

87. Do you only like the quiet Latinos?

Seems like.

They're people, not props.

I guess you're learning. Rough day for you.

[closeupready]

96. The typical DU Hillary supporter has over 5 hidden posts,

but with active accounts. I'll let that fact speak for itself.

[Uponthegears]

99. WOW

This manufactured victim hood.

The families of Hillary supporters hear F-you from Honduran protectors

WHILE

The families of Honduran protestors are MURDERED by the people Hillary helped put in power.

Get a sense of proportion!!!

[Yurovsky]

100. That ring on her finger indicates she's just another rich faux-liberal HRC supporter...

You want a warm reception, try a GOP event, you'll fit right in with the country-club Republicans.

[Cali_Democrat]

129. Only and rich person wears a ring on their finger? nt

[TimPlo]

103. I attended a protest in NC where we where protesting the

Discrimination of minorities with new voting laws. And oddly enough the GOP run media called us angry thugs. I see fox news all time calling any African American who protest as loud mouth thugs etc. Same old same here I see except it is directed toward Latinos. They get called rude because they don't agree with Clinton.

[Uponthegears]

105. Thank you

[MariaThinks]

104. yet in their warped dissonance, they believe it is hillary supporters yelling at them

the parallel between what some Bernie supporters and what some trump supporters recognize and project is astounding

[MFM008]

106. I would have had my pepper spray.

because they are

[cherokeeprogressive]

115. Get used to the situation, and the fact it AIN'T Sanders fans she is/will be dealing with.

This is a warm, soft chocolate chip cookie compared to the cold hard shit that's comin'. It wasn't served up by Sanders supporters; it's the forte of The Trumpeteers.

If this picture hurts your feelings... get out of the kitchen and go back to the couch where you belong.

[aikoaiko]

116. We've seen incidents before where the pictures and video were not what they seemed.

I'll wait to learn more about who is saying what to whom.

[kstewart33]

125. Getting challenging to tell Trump supporters from Sanders supporters. nt

[glowing]

126. Yes, we know, the Liar guy fits a pretty neat-o Bernie-Bro meme...

He's a favorite photo. However, I see little discussion being had of the groups that did come to protest economic issues, immigration issues, and her support for Hondurus regime change and the violent fall out since that time. She was at the State and helped foster that mess... And then the Republicans were protesting Onama when parents sent their children north for protection against the violence. (And if I'm not mistaken, a corporation was in full support of the regime change in that country.)

[LWolf]

127. And you identified this man as

a "Sanders fan"...how?

Not that I disagree with the sign when it comes to Clinton.

[Joe the Revelator]

128. Flippant dismissal of the working class from people wearing fancy Jewelery?

Yeah they does kind of sum things up.