Obama opens up 12 point lead over Romney in Ohio, 17 in Virginia...

[Drunken Irishman]

Obama up 17 over Romney in Virginia:
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/A_Politics/_Today_Stories_Teases/120304NBCMaristVirginiaMarch2012.pdf

Obama up 12 over Romney in Ohio:

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/A_Politics/_Today_Stories_Teases/120304NBCMaristOhioMarch2012.pdf

[spooky3]

1. it also shows (Senate race): Kaine (D) 48%, Macaca Allen (R) 39%, undecided 14%

I don't know how good this poll is, but I like the results.



[Kahuna]

2. Holy cow! Va, is Team Obama vs. team Mitt/McDonnell . Team Obama leads 51/36..

That's what you call a double can of whoop-ass

There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth throughout repuke land tomorrow.... Can't wait.


Edited to add: The Ohio poll includes Team Obama vs. Team mitt/Portman. The beltway concensus has been that Portman is a the most likely VP pick. In this poll, Team Obama leads Team mitt/Portman, 51/37.

[ellisonz]

3. Pukes are going down!

[David__77]

4. Wonderful!

But we also need both houses!

[Arkana]

5. That Virginia poll's a bit skewed...36% Democrats to 24% Republicans?

[WI_DEM]

9. I agree it seems to be tilted too much in favor of the democrats...

so that when they correct it next time the big headline will be that Romney is coming back and Obama is slipping.

[dmallind]

6. Which would be great if this were October

Being March, means bugger all. Sure I prefer this bugger all to the inverse bugger all, but it remains bugger all nonetheless.

[Alexander]

7. With leads like that, we may find Missouri, Montana, Arizona and Georgia in play.

Obama only defeated McCain by about 5-6 points in Virginia and Ohio in 2008.

If he's winning 12-17 point margins in these days, he wins 2012 in a walk.

[center rising]

8. I don't believe the Virginia numbers

Very fishy to me!!

[fujiyama]

10. I haven't checked the internals

but if we see Obama take VA by a healthy margin (similar or higher % than '08), we may be seeing a real realignment of the political map for several elections to come. Before '08, the last time a Democrat had taken the state was Johnson's landslide in '64!

It's still too early and I won't get too excited. I know all too well that there are many out there that eat up RW talking points.

VA is a true battleground though at this point as is NC. I'll admit, eight years ago it looked like Democrats wouldn't win any southern state for at least another generation - and here we have VA as a purple state, which actually leans kind of bluish!

[aaaaaa5a]

11. I watched MSNBC all day and I only saw this poll broadcast once.

Its truly amazing.

Last week when 9 of the last 10 national polls showed Obama beating Romney(some by as many as 10 points) nationally, MSNBC went with the only outlier poll (Gallup 50-45 Romney) that had Romney up. (Interestingly the same Gallup poll only 3 days later had Obama/Romney tied at 47-47) Now, with every poll showing us that Obama has size-able leads in Ohio and Virginia, we get nothing. The network even ignores their own poll.




Its a good thing the media doesn't have an agenda.