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[Joe the Revelator]

1. Why are you freaking out about it? We have a convention coming up, when we will officially have a

nominee. Horse and cart.

[StevieM]

15. I agree that Hillary is not the presumptive nominee yet, at least not based on how we have

traditionally defined that term.

But I also don't think it is fair to say that we have to wait until the convention, also based on how we have traditionally defined that term.

Of course, some traditions are only eight years old in this regards, but it does seem like a precedent was set in 2008.

Here is the 2008 standard, as I see it: when a candidate gets a majority of pledged delegates, and when their total PDs and super delegate commitments represent a majority of all delegates, that person is declared the presumptive nominee.

I expect Hillary to achieve that benchmark on June 7.

But the voting will continue until June 14 in Washington DC.

So maybe the one week countdown to when the board is expected to rally around the nominee will begin at that point. In which case the Hillary-bashing will have to cease on June 21.

I guess that means that we will celebrate the Summer Solstice by coming back together as a party.

[JDPriestly]

127. DU is going to be a lonely place when you kick out the Bernie supporters.

[StevieM]

131. Bernie supporters are not going to get kicked out.

They simply won't be allowed to post harshly anti-Clinton comments.

The mission of the board will change after the nominating contest is over. At that point the mission of the board will be to elect the Democratic nominee to the presidency.

[Liberty Belle]

26. Stop with this arrogance. Some of us haven't even voted yet, in California.

Be respectful of everyone's right to cast ballots and for the convention process to take place - that is how Democrats choose their nominee, not by fiat.

[Joe the Revelator]

28. I think you replied to the wrong person. :)

[Demsrule86]

73. It needs to be called

There was one Democrat a while back who ripped another Democratic candidate to shreds ...refused to concede to have his 'issues' explored...so he went to the convention...we lost that year...Jimmy Carter was the president...Ted Kennedy was the candidate who b went to the convention. He helped Ronald Reagan get elected. The story of our country would be different had Reagan never won. If a GOP is elected in the fall...he would likely have all branches of government...five court picks too. People would literally die as healthcare would be repealed for sure...nothing to replace it with either. LGBT would be trashed...a woman's right to choose...as for the economy...the Gop always wrecks it. Also not only would we not get a minimum wage of $15., the GOP wants no minimum wage. It could happen. For the good of the party and the country...we need to move to the general and get behind the candidate...much has been made of Hillary staying in. I was an Obama supporter. but she did have a path to the nomination...when she no longer did, she conceded and worked her tail off to elect Obama. It is my opinion that Bill Clinton saved the Democratic election in 12...he worked hard to get Obama re-elected. As I volunteer for every Democratic candidate, I saw it close up...so let's get Hillary elected or if it makes it better for you guys...think about not electing a Republican who will cause nothing but misery for all. I am hoping as Bernie thinks about it, he will bow out and not allow hurt feeling or ego to risk the general.

[angrychair]

120. Nonsense

WJC got PBO re-elected in 2012? You do realize it was a landslide victory for PBO, right? No one was carrying him over the finish line.
You statement is seriously factual challenge and it's said that Clinton supporters are that delusional.

[dchill]

2. What is it that you fear?

Or is it an authoritarian streak coming out?

Let everyone vote, let everyone speak!

[Joe the Revelator]

4. They look at this as a game on DU. They want the purge so they get their echo chamber.

Then, they 'win'.

[dchill]

10. I fail to understand the appeal of an echo chamber...

in political discussion. Maybe they just like the sound of their own voices telling themselves the same thing over and over, without any dissonant facts.

[bjo59]

43. Well, hate to say it but we Americans do have a reputation abroad for loving the sound of

our own voices. Very, very unfortunate character trait when the voice has nothing to say but unsubstantiated "sound bite" opinions in the form of statements of fact.

[Ghost Dog]

80. Heh. Also makes it hard to hear and listen to

the voices of non-Americans.

[Jester Messiah]

102. It's a good way to be taken by surprise when Reality comes knocking. n/t

[NobodyHere]

125. DU is an echo chamber for liberal viewpoints

[_progressive]

51. look this up

Barrier Breakers 2016: A Project of Correct The Record

[stopbush]

9. Pointless post.

[dchill]

13. You should change your user name...

To stopsanders.

[lancer78]

49. I think that person should

change their name as they are trying to give the Bush's a 4th term.

[trueblue2007]

64. WE HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR, BUT FEAR IT'S SELF.

[qdouble]

3. Time for democrats to rally behind democrats

[Smarmie Doofus]

21. Welcome to DU.

How do you like it so far?

[G_j]

27. Welcome to DU

[nolawarlock]

40. Careful ...

They'll be calling you a paid troll before long.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. How many members does Skinner want to lose?

[Andy823]

95. Just the trolls. nt

[Human101948]

106. Hillary should have her people posting here...

no need to drive them out.

[PowerToThePeople]

6. Burp.

[CentralCoaster]

7. 15 states and one FBI investigation to go, put a lid on it and let us vote.

Pay attention, would ya?

Skinner's not calling it until the last vote has been cast.

[stopbush]

11. Unlike Sanders zealots, Skinner isn't wearing bernie blinders.

[Joe the Revelator]

18. So you just started this thread so you could throw jabs?

Got it.

[TM99]

38. Nope he is wearing Clinton ones

instead.

[Carolina]

66. The zealots calling

for shutting down the process before it's over have the nerve to call Bernie supporters zealots. They should be reminded that their girl $hillary stayed in the primary race through CA " because you never know... remember Bobby Kennedy!"

[haikugal]

8. No we don't she hasn't reached the required number yet...LOL so silly.

[2banon]

12. The Most Populated State in the Union, California, Has NOT Voted YET.

The Primaries are NOT over. get over it

[stopbush]

14. You're really hellbent on seeing Sanders lose big time in CA as well.

Time to turn to the GE. Don Quixote can head back to VT.

BTW - Sanders is over it if you aren't. Read the statement his campaign out out tonight.

[pat_k]

50. "going to... Philadelphia with as many delegates as possible to fight for a progressive platform"

As long as there are delegates to win, Sanders supporters will be working to get him every vote possible... and to win as many remaining states as possible.

Sanders ain't over. Perhaps you need to re-read his press release:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1845424

[stopbush]

56. There is absolutely no reason for Hillary to adopt an iota

of Sanders campaign issues in the platform. It's pure hubris on the part of Sanders and his followers to believe that losers get to dicate terms to the victors. Besides, Ds are voting overwhelmingly for Hillary and her take on the issues. Why in heaven's name would she risk pissing off her overwhelming support by adopting stances she didn't campaign on herself?

[pat_k]

61. And when 45% of the pledged delegates on the convention floor

... are Bernie delegates, and she says "fuck you," how do you think that'll work out for her?

[stopbush]

62. She still wins. Works out fine for her.

And for the Democratic Party which supported her overwhelmingly.

Your point?

Sanders is being stupid. Were he smart, he'd be talking to her right now, discussing how he can best support her and the Ds and devising an exit strategy that works for him. But it's not about the D Party, it's all about Sanders.

[pat_k]

63. You do realize the event is televised?

[stopbush]

67. A lot is going to be televised starting tomorrow.

If Sanders gave a fuck about the D Party, he would suspend his campaign tonight, throw his support fully behind Hillary and present a united front that would contrast with the chaos on the R side of the ledger. He could then negotiate quietly behind the scenes for his issues.

By continuing to engage in his lost cause in a very public manner, he throws that all away and hands the media their false equivalancy mantra that the Ds are just as screwed up as the Rs. Nice work, Bernie, you fucking asshole. Squander a golden opportunity to show the world that Ds are of one mind in this election. And why? Because of your useless ego and self-centered bullshit.

[pat_k]

69. It's call Democracy. People standing up for what they believe.

Pretty simple.

It's not about Bernie. It's never been about Bernie. It's about trying to put some spine into the spineless Dems who have their heads stuck up in the beltway sphincter.

Bernie tapped into the frustration and anguish that exists "out here." You can't just wish the genie back into the bottle.

When people-power is involved, it plays out in the public square. Not behind closed doors.

[Human101948]

108. That's right!

Why adopt any of those progressive planks when you are never going to fight put any of them into practice.

So, more empty promises and the same old center right incrementalism.

[stopbush]

119. Why adopt policies that are paid for with Reganesque budgets?

Besides, St Bernard is the only pure politician available who would be able to bend the will of Congress to enact his plans. Hillary would fail as she is not the messiah, as is Sanders.

[TMontoya]

17. Sorry

But its over. CA is now irrelevant.

[Human101948]

111. But RFK was shot in California in June!

Hillary pointed that out in 2008. That's a lot rougher than anything Bernie supporters have said.

[Logical]

16. Lol, more whining! Nt

[workinclasszero]

19. We have our nominee

Call it

[G_j]

33. You're done?

unfortunately for you, there are many other people here besides you.

[earthshine]

103. Please add me to your ignore list.

It's a badge of honor. Something you and your candidate do not have.

[oldandhappy]

22. I have not yet voted in the primary.

Please allow the primary season to finish and allow the convention to happen. The election happens in November!

[Maru Kitteh]

23. The Sanders campaign is no longer seeking the nomination

It's time.

[k8conant]

30. Where does this say Sanders is no longer seeking the nomination?

https://berniesanders.com/press-release/sanders-statement-primary-elections/

PRESS RELEASE
Sanders Statement on Primary Elections
APRIL 26, 2016
Twitter Facebook Email Link
HUNTINGTON, W. Va. – U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders on Tuesday issued the following statement:

“I congratulate Secretary Clinton on her victories tonight, and I look forward to issue-oriented campaigns in the 14 contests to come.

“I am proud that we were able to win a resounding victory tonight in Rhode Island, the one state with an open primary where independents had a say in the outcome. Democrats should recognize that the ticket with the best chance of winning this November must attract support from independents as well as Democrats. I am proud of my campaign’s record in that regard.

“The people in every state in this country should have the right to determine who they want as president and what the agenda of the Democratic Party should be. That’s why we are in this race until the last vote is cast. That is why this campaign is going to the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia with as many delegates as possible to fight for a progressive party platform that calls for a $15 an hour minimum wage, an end to our disastrous trade policies, a Medicare-for-all health care system, breaking up Wall Street financial institutions, ending fracking in our country, making public colleges and universities tuition free and passing a carbon tax so we can effectively address the planetary crisis of climate change.”

[LostOne4Ever]

24. Again, not till Sanders concedes or it is official via the convention. nt

[Blue_In_AK]

25. If I were less polite,

I might say "Pivot on THIS."

[rhett o rick]

29. What are you so terrified about? Afraid of actual democracy?

[Demsrule86]

75. We know Hillary has won

We don't fear Hillary losing the primary...we fear losing the general...Trump praised Bernie and used his words last night. At this point Bernie is a spoiler and that is the truth.

[earthshine]

105. If Bernie were a spoiler, he'd run as an independent.

And he's not going to do that.

Bernie is in to win or shape the Dem platform as best he can. I'm with him.

Hillary's corporate agendas make her a terrible candidate and worse potential president.

[Stuckinthebush]

31. Way past time

She won it in March

But my god, Skiner! Call this!

[ViseGrip]

32. Berners will have to find a new home until the convention. Skinner will lose money.

With fewer people clicking here all day....his revenue will go down.
Tough decision on his part...

[DisgustipatedinCA]

110. "Skinner, it's time to purge 85% of the clicks you get on DU"

That's what I see every time one of these threads pops up.

[boomer55]

34. ef that!

[chwaliszewski]

35. Stopbush, I admire your 'who cares what BSers think' attitude...

that's the way to bring people together. You should probably start by recruiting some of Bernie's youngest voters to come join the Hillary Youth program.

[NuclearDem]

37. I get it! Nazi reference!

Oh, you're a clever one!

[Dragonfli]

36. If you hate democracy so much, and want to post in an echo chamber, there is a group for that /nt

[seaglass]

113. Lol - what would you call JPR?

Talk about echo chambers - this is absolutely embarrassing:

New rule for posts on jpr

David Brock (noted "former" Conservative and enabler of Clarence Thomas' sexual harassment) has announced that he's spending a million bucks on Internet trolls to combat disloyalty towards Hillary Clinton. To combat this crap, we have a new rule: henceforth, any speculation about Bernie possibly not winning the Democratic nomination must be phrased as follows: "If Hillary and her DNC steals the election, and if Hillary is not indicted for the obvious criminally jeopardizing of national security by using a personal mail server as SOS to evade FOIA, then..."

This not only captures the truth, it's something that a Brock-troll won't write, of course.

Failure to use this phrasing or something very close when speculating that Bernie might not win the nomination will result in a deleted post. The second time it happens, the poster will be banned.

This rule is agreed to by all mods and admins

http://jackpineradicals.org/announcement.php?f=29

[TM99]

39. So you are fucking lying.

The Sanders campaign released no such statement.

Please find those words for me in this statement released tonight?

PRESS RELEASE
Sanders Statement on Primary Elections
APRIL 26, 2016

HUNTINGTON, W. Va. – U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders on Tuesday issued the following statement:

“I congratulate Secretary Clinton on her victories tonight, and I look forward to issue-oriented campaigns in the 14 contests to come.

“I am proud that we were able to win a resounding victory tonight in Rhode Island, the one state with an open primary where independents had a say in the outcome. Democrats should recognize that the ticket with the best chance of winning this November must attract support from independents as well as Democrats. I am proud of my campaign’s record in that regard.

“The people in every state in this country should have the right to determine who they want as president and what the agenda of the Democratic Party should be. That’s why we are in this race until the last vote is cast. That is why this campaign is going to the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia with as many delegates as possible to fight for a progressive party platform that calls for a $15 an hour minimum wage, an end to our disastrous trade policies, a Medicare-for-all health care system, breaking up Wall Street financial institutions, ending fracking in our country, making public colleges and universities tuition free and passing a carbon tax so we can effectively address the planetary crisis of climate change.”

https://berniesanders.com/press-release/sanders-statement-primary-elections/

Yeah, thought so. The ones in denial and living in a fantasy world is not Sanders supporters.

[brooklynite]

79. You can understand our confusion...

“The people in every state in this country should have the right to determine who they want as president and what the agenda of the Democratic Party should be. That’s why we are in this race until the last vote is cast.

...e.g., everyone should have a right to vote for their choice, NOT "we're going to win"

That is why this campaign is going to the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia with as many delegates as possible to fight for a progressive party platform

...e.g., our goal is the platform, not the nomination.

[TeeYiYi]

41. Oh my... sooooo dramatic! Unrec. ..nt

TYY

[revmclaren]

42. Rachel Maddow on MSNBC just stated

that listening to Sanders statement, he is saying that there is NO path for him to win. She said that a lot of people will be upset with her saying this.

Even she can see the truth. Everyone who is really watching and listening is saying the same thing. It's over. Sanders only wants to continue to push his progressive agenda all the way to the convention. He is not in it to win any longer.

Time to call it. Sanders himself has said there is no path to victory for him.

Skinner..the ball is in your court.

[pat_k]

52. So, Sanders didn't say it, but Rachel did, so that's it.

We are going to keep working to send as many Sanders delegates to Philadelphia as possible.

With each vote for Sanders, we call on the Democratic Party to commit to making the New, New Deal a reality.

And when about 45% of the pledged delegates on the convention floor are Bernie delegates, I think the Democratic leadership will have a much harder time "dis-ing" them the way Hillary is now.

[revmclaren]

54. If you want to see it that way, ok

But it will be the top topic tomorrow and very hard to ignore. But hugs on your loss...

[pat_k]

55. Lookin' forward to seein' all those Sanders Delegates on the Convention Floor.

If Hillary keeps up her "fuck em" tone, there will be a whole lotta booing goin' on.

[revmclaren]

57. Yeah, that will convince the supers to support him...

[pat_k]

59. Who said that?

But if Hillary and the so-called "leadership" says "fuck you" to Bernie delegates (as she currently is to Bernie's supporters), it will get ugly.

They are going to have to deal with it somehow. I think we'll be seeing Democratic insiders take a more conciliatory tone to the progressive wing of the Democratic party come July -- perhaps she'll even take a bold stand on something.

[revmclaren]

65. and the only one who will look bad will be Sanders.

And he will go back to Vermont without anything from the administration and someone will challenge his senate seat using sanders own attacks against the now president Clinton and the convention footage to attack him and that will be the end of a great career.

So good luck with that. hope it works out exactly as you wish.

[pat_k]

70. Glad you have little fantasies to comfort yourself with.

Me, I'm just looking forward to seeing it play out.

[Gwhittey]

122. Pat_k

you are arguing with someone who only seems to care to be able to win. You are trying to talk about not winning but making the DNC better. And it is useless to try and talk that with someone that only see their own personal glory because of Clinton winning. They have never cared about the issues but about that candidate whose name is Clinton. If she came out tomorrow and said She was changing her stance on Gun control and Abortion most of them would say oh yea gun control is stupid we need to stop trying to push it.

[longship]

44. For Christ sakes! Stop ringing that cockamamie bell!!!

[Matt_in_STL]

45. What is stopping you from moving over to GD yourself and "pivoting" to the GE?

If you are that eager and feel the primaries are over, stop posting here and move to GD. It seems pretty easy, unless you are afraid you'll be missing out if you aren't in GD .

[highprincipleswork]

46. This is a ridiculous line of argument. It is not over till it's over. Superdelegates do not count

until the convention. There are still plenty of votes necessary to go over the threshold. And there is nothing wrong with continuing the race.

The very word "pivot" is fraught with disaster. I sincerely hope that Hillary does not pivot from her current primary policies and positions to some rightward leaning position, in the hopes of attracting a few stray Republican votes. That would be a disaster!!!

You and Hillary and other Hillary supporters should get yourselves ready for a unifying convention, where hopefully Hillary's platform, positions, and VP selection have something to say to all the very energized Bernie supporters who are Democrats, Independents, and Republicans. That would be the smart move, not pissing them off further or further disenfranchising them.

Can't you see the wisdom of that?

Asking to call this off somehow on DU makes no sense at all. But reaching out and finding common ground, that does make sense.

[bettyellen]

53. Pivot just means that Hillary needs to work on a plan for the general election, and she does....

GOTV does not happen on it's own, with FB and tweets.

[highprincipleswork]

68. Her 1st work should be to unify the Party, & not by triangulating and pivoting in any rightward way.

if she is successful and utilizes the framework that she and Bernie have both built, she will have plenty of headsup on the general election, especially compared to the Republicans.

There is a lot of fence-mending and bridge-building and reassurances involved if she really wants to lead this whole army and not just half of one. That's where the building should be, up until the convention.

I consider her speech tonight a good start. A lot of my fellow Bernie supporters are not ready, however, to be so generous. I would like to see more.

[pat_k]

47. This is General Discussion: "Primaries" and we have a few more of those to go.

Sanders supporters are committed to sending as many Sanders delegates to the convention as possible. The outcome of each primary matters and worthy of discussion.

[Rex]

48. CALL CONGRESS RIGHT NOW!

NOWNOWNOW!

[sueh]

58. Gentle reminder: The primary elections are Not. Over. Yet.

[Cha]

60. Good Luck with that!

[Warren DeMontague]

71. Hear, hear our plea o Skinner!

Vital pivoting must be done, and it is the sort of high-test pivoting which cannot be done at the time of the convention, no, lo, the full scale and volume of the pivoting, the massive monumental logistical nightmare which is the gigantic effort to "pivot" democratic underground to a "GE footing" - only a fool would think it could be done quickly!

No, there are massive steel cables to be unwound, giant barges of cement and rebar to be gently ferried through groaning steel sea locks. Foundations to be lain, caverns to be blasted. Huge earthen mounds to be unearthed, and re-earthed again.

The undertaking of the pivotude must be begun and begun NOW, or verily we are doomed in the face of the ginormous pivoting task which lieth before us!


...




Besides, Dad, it's really stressful to have to deal with dissenting opinions.

[AgingAmerican]

72. She isn't the nominee until she's the nominee

Which happens at the convention.

[lamp_shade]

74. He clearly should and I'd venture to guess that he wants to, but I don't think he will.

Not just yet. Maybe next week.

[baldguy]

76. Dragging it out just helps the Republicans.

Which is what some Sanders supporters wanted all along.

[Broward]

77. Please, pretty please with a cherry on top.

[Agschmid]

78. Chill.

No rush.

[Hortensis]

81. I want to agree. But, Trump has pivoted to attacking Hillary.

Hillary has pivoted to the GE as she could lose every state from here on in and still win.

Bernie says he is pivoting to concentrate on issues, not attacks, from here on.

It really does seem time to stop DU doing the GOP's work for it.

[Agschmid]

82. Whenever I see the GOP stuff I alert on it.

I wasn't here for the last primary so I don't really understand how this works on DU.

[grossproffit]

83. Sadly, some love to post GOP stuff here.

It's time to stop that, in my opinion.

[MrMickeysMom]

84. Dear Skinner...

We can't keep up the appearance much longer while stealing speeches and insisting there are no election issues before we all vote.

We don't want to feel democracy anymore...

Signed,

Trolls

[riversedge]

85. Please do it for the sake of the Dem Party. This toxic enviroment on a Democratic Board is

not doing anyone any good--except to serve as fodder for the Republicans.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

90. Mirror mirror, on the wall.

[workinclasszero]

86. Actually Hillary won the nomination in Nevada

when Bernie's phantom revolution failed to show up and save him at the voting booth.

They have failed to show up every since then, including last night.

Call it NOW!

[Vinca]

89. You'd better hope the "phantom revolution" shows up in November or it'll be Pres. Trump.

If it's time for anything, it's time to stop trashing Bernie. He's been amazing: an unknown senator up against the world's most famous woman. She should have put this away months ago.

[workinclasszero]

109. I'm not worried about an internet meme showing up in November

They never showed up in the primaries, they sure as hell weren't showing up in the GE either.

People who love their families enough to save them from a scumball like Trump WILL show up in November and stop the asshole dead in his tracks!

[B Calm]

87. Trashing Thread

[cherokeeprogressive]

88. Like petulant children.

[bvf]

91. Clinton is not the nominee.

Do something about those ants in your pants, OK?

[QC]

92. It's funny how most of those stamping their little feet and demanding

that Skinner drive off 80% of his traffic don't even have donor stars.

Has anyone else noticed that?

[Andy823]

94. I have noticed

That a lot of the trolls that get banned "did" have donor stars, and a lot of those who come here daily to do nothing but trash the "other" candidate also have stars, so what's your point?

[workinclasszero]

112. I don't donate money to anti-democratic party sites

Which DU has been for months now and still is!

We have a clear democratic nominee, Hillary Clinton and the owner of the site still allows people to advocate for third party candidates and people who want to disrupt our candidate and cause maximum harm to her and the democratic party!

IF that is ever stopped by TPTB, then I'll look at contributing money!

[bahrbearian]

115. Its funny that most of them have their transparency pages showing.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=127665&sub=trans

Skinner must be proud.

[QC]

118. Yeah, I've noticed that as well. n/t

[MagickMuffin]

116. I don't have a star (so what), and yet I am a Democratic Precinct Chair,

and you??? How are you involved in your local Democratic party???

[Buns_of_Fire]

93. Furthermore, we demand that the site be renamed "HRC4Ever.com"

And all references to Bernie Sanders or Martin O'Malley be erased from the archives.

And all posters who haven't pledged their troth to Hillary be PPR'd with no hope for reinstatement.

And any post that doesn't include "Hillary" and "awesome" in the same sentence be automatically removed.

That should cover it for now.

[lagomorph777]

96. You seem pretty scared of Bernie.

If you weren't worried about him, you wouldn't be trying to bully us into giving up.

You do know that your candidate and her surrogates are not calling on Bernie to quit, right?

[Orsino]

97. Dear Skinner: Please punish Sanders supporters.

I have chosen an arbitrary date. I don't understand what a primary is, and am confused by more than one voice when it comes to shaping our party's platform. I therefore ask that only Clinton supporters have full posting privileges.

[roody]

98. Is Skinner ready to lose many subscribers?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

121. Nothing will be left but the echo chamber that is the Hillary group.

[aikoaiko]

100. Eff that noise. Feel the Bern.

[northernsouthern]

101. Way to divide the party. NT

[Setsuna1972]

104. Agreed !

The nomination has been decided and its Hillary's ! Time to shift to the General Election and stopping the GOP !!!

[jack_krass]

107. UNREC. Why are you afraid? nt

[workinclasszero]

117. Over 3 million popular votes and 300 pledged delegates for Hillary the next POTUS!

Call it NOW!!!

[Gothmog]

123. it is time to move into general election mode

[JDPriestly]

126. We in California do not vote until June 7. Until after the convention, there is no nominee.,

[LanternWaste]

128. To what specific and measurable end?

"It is time to put DU on a GE footing. Now. Tonight. ASAP..."

To what specific and measurable end (and please show your objective evidence)?

[Yurovsky]

129. BOW DOWN... SUBMIT... OBEY...

Your corporate masters have spoken...

Ummm, how about, "no". Or better yet, "fuck no". The 1% might be your boss, but they're sure as hell not mine.

[hamsterjill]

130. At least insist on a small degree of decorum.

I read a post on DU this morning that had the words (regarding Hillary Clinton)"

"but fuck her and her party are not democrats at all, so...."

I support Hillary and I AM a Democrat and on Democratic Underground, I don't think any of us should have to be insulted to this degree.

[HERVEPA]

132. Take this crap to Ask the Administrators. It's Meta!