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Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:15 PM Oct 2012

My Dad Made a Good Point

We were talking about the election this evening and I said we only have a few days left and Nate Silver has an estimate that Obama has about a 75% chance of winning. So in the next few days, Romney would have to reverse Obama's momentum up and then completely overcome Obama's lead, in order to win the election. My dad then added, the "undecided" voters this late in the election usually don't end up voting. That is something that I have heard many times before, so really there are only a very, very small number of swing voters that are actually going to end up voting at this point. That would mean that in order for Romney to make up the deficit in the polls, he would have to strip off people that are currently polling for Obama. The problem, a huge number of Obama supporters have already voted. So in order for Romney to win, he has to stop Obama's momentum, and make up the deficit in voters with a fairly small number of voters that right now say they are going to vote for Obama, while not losing any of his soft support at the same time. He has just over a week to steal obama supporters, that are in the small group of Obama people that haven't voted yet, and use them to some how get to his strongest position of any point in the election.

That has to be an uphill climb that is virtually impossible. If you think about it like that, Romney's 25% chance of winning at 538 is probably way too high. Maybe these other sources that have Obama at 90+ chance of winning are closer to reality.

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My Dad Made a Good Point (Original Post) Doctor Jack Oct 2012 OP
I agree with your dad amuse bouche Oct 2012 #1
I think some undecided's call themselves that but really, they're non-voters justiceischeap Oct 2012 #2
I agree sandyshoes17 Oct 2012 #3
it's abumbyanyothername Oct 2012 #4
This is music to my ears! Kteachums Oct 2012 #5
Excellent point! Caretha Oct 2012 #6
Nate had an earlier article months ago showing that undecideds usually break for the incumbent. grantcart Oct 2012 #7

amuse bouche

(3,657 posts)
1. I agree with your dad
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:24 PM
Oct 2012

Plus the undecideds have no passion about a candidate. It is very easy for them to just not bother

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
2. I think some undecided's call themselves that but really, they're non-voters
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:26 PM
Oct 2012

It's embarrassing to admit you don't vote, especially in what's considered a crucial election.

sandyshoes17

(657 posts)
3. I agree
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:29 PM
Oct 2012

I think alot of these undecided are non voters. I know alot of people who talk alot about politics and don't vote, so I can only imagine people that are undecided just don't understand politics, and it's best they don't vote.

Kteachums

(331 posts)
5. This is music to my ears!
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:32 PM
Oct 2012

I really need to hear this for real; "Obama wins"! I am a cancer patient, single mother with a daughter in college, teach school (planning on retiring this coming June). I am nervously hoping and praying for my President to win.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
7. Nate had an earlier article months ago showing that undecideds usually break for the incumbent.
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:27 PM
Oct 2012

If they don't have a reason to vote for change these folks will tend to keep that which they know.

Your basic point is what Silver is saying about Ohio. Where there is a wealth of polling in a state there is no previous situation where it swung more than a point or two, but not 5 or 6
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