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Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:40 AM

The Benghazi email story could prove to be devastating.

The optics look bad. Turn off your TVs because this will be the lead story for the next 2 weeks.

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Reply The Benghazi email story could prove to be devastating. (Original post)
JRLeft Oct 2012 OP
dennis4868 Oct 2012 #1
grasswire Oct 2012 #2
mzmolly Oct 2012 #5
RudynJack Oct 2012 #77
mzmolly Oct 2012 #3
demvoter4life Oct 2012 #4
Drunken Irishman Oct 2012 #10
mzmolly Oct 2012 #12
Drunken Irishman Oct 2012 #18
mzmolly Oct 2012 #21
krawhitham Oct 2012 #67
MADem Oct 2012 #78
bayareamike Oct 2012 #6
bayareamike Oct 2012 #8
JRLeft Oct 2012 #7
ProSense Oct 2012 #9
alcibiades_mystery Oct 2012 #41
RomneyLies Oct 2012 #66
mzmolly Oct 2012 #14
creon Oct 2012 #59
SweetieD Oct 2012 #11
Cali_Democrat Oct 2012 #13
SweetieD Oct 2012 #15
JRLeft Oct 2012 #16
Cali_Democrat Oct 2012 #19
mzmolly Oct 2012 #23
Blueprogress Oct 2012 #43
A-Schwarzenegger Oct 2012 #56
creon Oct 2012 #61
demvoter4life Oct 2012 #17
SweetieD Oct 2012 #24
Maeve Oct 2012 #49
mzmolly Oct 2012 #25
creon Oct 2012 #62
chillfactor Oct 2012 #20
Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #22
Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2012 #40
A-Schwarzenegger Oct 2012 #26
unc70 Oct 2012 #27
blogslut Oct 2012 #28
NewsCenter28 Oct 2012 #31
A-Schwarzenegger Oct 2012 #32
NewsCenter28 Oct 2012 #34
A-Schwarzenegger Oct 2012 #36
ejbr Oct 2012 #42
blogslut Oct 2012 #58
budkin Oct 2012 #29
Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #30
octoberlib Oct 2012 #33
Amonester Oct 2012 #35
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OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #44
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Jeff In Milwaukee Oct 2012 #47
Chichiri Oct 2012 #48
reflection Oct 2012 #50
wiggs Oct 2012 #63
reflection Oct 2012 #72
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DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #57
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krawhitham Oct 2012 #64
wiggs Oct 2012 #65
Blue Idaho Oct 2012 #68
MjolnirTime Oct 2012 #69
DCBob Oct 2012 #70
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NHDEMFORLIFE Oct 2012 #71
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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:42 AM

1. Please do explain

Not sure what you are talking about.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:42 AM

2. could you kindly provide some more detail?

I don't have a clue what you are talking about, and a quick perusal of LBN turns up nothing.

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Response to grasswire (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:47 AM

5. Here

Fox host Greta Van Susteren claimed that recently released State Department emails prove that the Obama administration knew the attack in Benghazi, Libya, was an act of terrorism as it was happening and that it was "ridiculous" for the administration to link the attack to an anti-Islam video. Yet the emails show only that the State Department was aware that an Islamist militia had taken credit for the attack, and other reporting has indicated that the anti-Islam video did, in fact, play a role in the attack.


http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/10/24/foxs-van-susteren-misrepresents-state-dept-emai/190888

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Response to mzmolly (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:15 AM

77. Some Islamist militia

takes credit every time an American stubs his toe. A claim means nothing. Sec. Clinton was absolutely right- a facebook post is not evidence.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:45 AM

3. Turn off Faux. Myths that the President didn't refer to the attack as a "terrorist" one immediately

are false. So, I fail to get the "devastating" part?

http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/10/24/foxs-van-susteren-misrepresents-state-dept-emai/190888

Fox host Greta Van Susteren claimed that recently released State Department emails prove that the Obama administration knew the attack in Benghazi, Libya, was an act of terrorism as it was happening and that it was "ridiculous" for the administration to link the attack to an anti-Islam video. Yet the emails show only that the State Department was aware that an Islamist militia had taken credit for the attack, and other reporting has indicated that the anti-Islam video did, in fact, play a role in the attack.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:45 AM

4. How

 

Does anyone not know its on every mainstream site. It is what made intrade go up 15%. But I brought it up earlier and I was a fox loving, Troll. Dont report anything slightly negative! It is on
CBS
ABC
NBC
Reuters
msnbc

anyway its not going to matter unless the news hounds in on it all day everyday.

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Response to demvoter4life (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:49 AM

10. Stop lying...and people won't call you a troll.

Intrade was manipulated by one Romney supporter ... not this non-story.

http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2012/10/intrade-manipulation-fail.html

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Response to demvoter4life (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:50 AM

12. Yes, the words Benghazi and emails are being reported on. But only one outlet is spinning.

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Response to mzmolly (Reply #12)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:55 AM

18. It's not even the top stories on these websites...

ABC News: Candidate: 'God Intended' Pregnancies From Rape

CBS News: Romney skips foreign policy on campaign trailThe GOP candidates, trying to break open a deadlocked race, say they are gaining steam

NBC News: US officials: Iran behind Saudi oil firm cyberattack

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #18)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:59 AM

21. It's mass Romnesia!

Seems some have forgotten the second debate already? I'll post a visual reminder, in an attempt at intervention.



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Response to demvoter4life (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:06 PM

67. You are clearly a troll

Obama has picked up 5 points on intrade today, after it was manipulated yesterday

I've had MSNBC on all they they talked about it for no more than 5 minutes

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Response to krawhitham (Reply #67)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:42 AM

78. He's eating his pizza even as we speak... nt

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Response to bayareamike (Reply #6)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:49 AM

8. Still don't think this will be devastating though...

The State Department received emails alleging that the attack was taking place for multiple reasons, that a terrorist group had taken credit for the attack and that the video was responsible. We were receiving mixed messages, just as the Obama Administration has said.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:48 AM

7. Emails detail unfolding Benghazi attack on Sept. 11 October 23, 2012 Ambassador Chris Stevens (CBS

Emails detail unfolding Benghazi attack on Sept. 11 October 23, 2012

Ambassador Chris Stevens (CBS News) It was six weeks ago on Tuesday that terrorists attacked the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya. Now, CBS News has obtained email alerts that were put out by the State Department as the attack unfolded. Four Americans were killed in the attack, including Ambassador Christopher Stevens.

These emails contain the earliest description so far of what happened at Benghazi the night of the attack. Read the emails (PDF) Ambassador warned Libya was "volatile and violent" Why no one has been right about Libya CIA saw possible terror ties day after Libya hit: AP

Ambassador Chris Stevens (CBS News) It was six weeks ago on Tuesday that terrorists attacked the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya. Now, CBS News has obtained email alerts that were put out by the State Department as the attack unfolded. Four Americans were killed in the attack, including Ambassador Christopher Stevens.

These emails contain the earliest description so far of what happened at Benghazi the night of the attack. Read the emails (PDF) Ambassador warned Libya was "volatile and violent" Why no one has been right about Libya CIA saw possible terror ties day after Libya hit: AP

http://m.cbsnews.com/storysynopsis.rbml?pageType=eveningNews&catid=57538689&feed_id=29

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Response to JRLeft (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:49 AM

9. Why are you hyping RW talking points? n/t

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Response to ProSense (Reply #9)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:01 AM

41. JRLeft is a right wing troll and sockpuppet for Blue Yorker

It's not that odd that he would post right wing tripe.

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #41)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:06 PM

66. Thanks for the heads up

 

Bookmarking your post for future reference when called to jury duty.

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Response to JRLeft (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:53 AM

14. What's your point? 1. No one disputed the fact that it was a terrorist

act. 2. Groups taking credit for XYZ, do not always mean they are responsible for XYZ.

No wonder the RW is so pissed at Crowley. They thought this mythical story would have legs with an uninformed populace. OOPS!

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Response to JRLeft (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:56 PM

59. Where is the smoking gun?

I have not found the 'smoking gun".

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:49 AM

11. I don't really see the devastation. The WH has said all along there were mixed signals.

Nothing contradicts what the WH has already said about this issue. Plus the stories just say that a group claimed responsibility on facebook and it mentions another group also claimed responsibility. There were also reports that it was totally spontaneous and thus these groups might have taken advantage of the confusion to claim responsibility for an attack they didn't do. I'm not sure what conservatives would have wanted? For the WH just to say a certain group actually did the attack, when it wasn't known for certain?

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:52 AM

13. Devastating?

Riiiiight.

Turn off my TV and turn on my computer so I can see lovely posts from you?

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:54 AM

15. Also see this article from 9/12, the WH specifically mentioned that the group Ansar al Sharia

may have been involved in the attack.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/12/us-libya-usa-attack-idUSBRE88B0EI20120912


Again, where is the devastation? This whole thing is just a rehashing of RW talking points about Libya that have continued to fail to gain traction.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:54 AM

16. The media loves controversy. So yeah I expect them to push

this story. Remember the Reverend Wright BS?

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Response to JRLeft (Reply #16)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:58 AM

19. "So yeah I expect them to push this story"

I also expect you to push this story.

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Response to JRLeft (Reply #16)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:00 AM

23. I have a simple, visual answer ... which I posted above.

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Response to JRLeft (Reply #16)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:08 AM

43. Yes I remember Rev. Wright

and this story will go nowhere just like that the Wright bs.

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Response to JRLeft (Reply #16)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:24 PM

56. Reverend Wright!?

You're not just reaching, you're flying.
This thread must be devastating for you.

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Response to JRLeft (Reply #16)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:59 PM

61. Where is the incriminating evidence?

I have not found it.

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Response to demvoter4life (Reply #17)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:01 AM

24. Now I know you are a troll.

Obama called it an "Act of terror" the next day and the day after and in the days after.

Also it is a terrorist act whether it was planned or whether it was spontaneous.

Obama did not say the attack was caused by the youtube video. Even if it had been, it would have still been a terrorist act. So what is your point?

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Response to SweetieD (Reply #24)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:44 AM

49. And you were right! To no one's surprise but the troll's...

"Troll was allowed to troll well past troll-limit, has now been sent back to trolltown. On the trolley. "
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=294108&sub=trans

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Response to demvoter4life (Reply #17)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:04 AM

25. Obama said it was a terrorist attack the next day.

eom

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Response to mzmolly (Reply #25)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:00 PM

62. yes he did

in the rose garden

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:59 AM

20. guess I missed the "devastating" part....

mixed messages have been coming out of Libya since the attack....

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:00 AM

22. Foreign debate is over. Obama won.

Romney is not doing any press for the rest of the election says MSNBC.

So please explain who is going to care. Especially that Akin's twin just broke national press on God giving thumbs up to rape.

Women are the core vote this year. Which story do you think they're going to care about.

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Response to Maximumnegro (Reply #22)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:58 AM

40. They care more about the deficit, silly!

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:10 AM

26. Romney said "Never mind" in the debate.

Sorry, JR, it was all a dream.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:16 AM

27. You do realize no consulate in Benghazi?!

There wasn't a consulate in Benghazi, only a CIA operation.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:31 AM

28. Call me kooky. I could be wrong.

But I'm pretty sure that the presidential election campaign will be the top news story for the next 2 weeks.

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Response to blogslut (Reply #28)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:37 AM

31. Why are you buying into Faux propaganda?

This will not be a story this time tomorrow night. Obama's Leno appearance and swing state campaign tour will steal the spotlight. Not to mention that Libya has been litigated to death and is baked into the cake so to speak. Also, not to mention that the administration discussed Answar-Al-islam or whatever they call themselves being involved on 9/12 itself per the Reuters article.

Also, what is the point of spreading this news??

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Response to NewsCenter28 (Reply #31)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:39 AM

32. I think you misdirected this.

You meant it to be aimed at the OP, right?

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Response to A-Schwarzenegger (Reply #32)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:42 AM

34. Right, sorry A-S-It's directed to JR

I just replied to the last post on the thread at the time that I posted. I'm new here. So, still learning the ropes so to speak. My apologies!

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Response to NewsCenter28 (Reply #34)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:43 AM

36. I've done the exact same thing.

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Response to blogslut (Reply #28)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:07 AM

42. Can you be both right

AND kooky?

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Response to ejbr (Reply #42)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:25 PM

58. Yes!

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:33 AM

29. CROFL!

Another one of these threads...

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:36 AM

30. Many things "could" happen. Rick Santorum could show up naked on my doorstep tweaking on meth.

It's not hugely likely, but it's within the realm of possibility.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:42 AM

33. It annoys me when these panic threads aren't accompanied with links and research

in the original post.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:43 AM

35. Apparently, nobody's interested in anything about foreign policy...

Well, almost nobody.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:58 AM

37. How do emails that confirm the administration's story become devastating?

But thank you for your concern.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:45 AM

38. I just saw this on my MSNBC feed, wondered what was going on glad I came here

Yes they will try and spin this but they will fail, he said it was an act of terror the next day didn't he.. Give me a break.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:25 AM

39. Two weeks ago just called. It wants its bullshit narrative back.

Even Romney wouldn't touch this in debate 3.

This OP is ridiculous.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:09 AM

44. With all due respect, you're full of it. Do better homework. nt.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:11 AM

45. LOL. Um. No. Trump has some DEVASTATING Noooz too!11!11

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:13 AM

46. You vastly overstate the impact. It will be negligible. And won't "lead for the next 2 weeks."

If it leads at all, it will only be a day or two. New shiny objects will come along soon enough and the low info voter will promptly forget what they never really understood.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:22 AM

47. It's a bullshit argument....

The whole Benghazi tragedy is a bullshit non-issue.

A group of islamist militants used civil unrest to mask a direct strike on the consulate in Benghazi. It worked. For several days afterwords, it was assumed that the whole thing was the actions of a mob, until more evidence came to light that untimately proved otherwise.

Case closed.

But in fact, if you look at the statements made by the White House during the week or so after the attack, their every utterance was always accompanied by the phrase "as far as we know" or "to the best of our knowledge." Until it had the facts, the White House was not being definitive one way or the other.

Obama did EXACTLY what a responsible adult would do -- hold off until all the evidence has been gathered. Don't tip off the militants that we're investigating. Don't shoot first and ask questions later. Only an asshat Republican who wants to score political points off the dead body of Ambassador Christopher Stevens would try to make this an issue, and that's exactly what they're doing.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:25 AM

48. Thanks for your concern.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:54 AM

50. Benghazi is over as it pertains to this election.

And the "email story" is a complete nontroversy. Any time something blows up, 50 extremist groups jockey for position to take credit. I read this story this morning and it didn't even raise an eyebrow with me. I actually hope the Republicans focus on this for the next two weeks. It will move the narrative to "foreign affairs" which is the exact debate where Obama took Mitt behind the woodshed.

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Response to reflection (Reply #50)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:58 PM

63. Benghazi is the ONLY topic on RW radio today...listened to two shows off and on for a bit. For the

90% of talk radio airtime that is RW, that's what's important today.

Among thinking people, it is over as an issue. That doesn't mean it's over wrt the election.

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Response to wiggs (Reply #63)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:27 PM

72. Respectfully disagree.

This is already baked in the cake for anyone that gets their news from AM radio. It won't add one more vote for Romney.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:57 AM

51. go back to troll school... you are making rookie mistakes

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:58 AM

52. ABC News Story

 

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/email-alerts-describe-911-benghazi-consulate-assault-unfolding/


Last line: "The timing of the emails is consistent with what a senior State Department official told reporters at a briefing on Oct. 9."


Our guys were honest and open the whole time. Fox Lies, never forget that.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:03 AM

53. the emails prove what?

It was an extremist act? So what. No matter what the motivation of course it was!!! And a terrorist act too!!

I think the repubs are fools to dwell on how scary the world is right now-Romney showed he is not up to the job of being commander in chief and people do not trust him on foreign policy. So by talking about Libya over and over it only means people will be scared and won't trust Romney who doesn't know where Syria is, to be in charge.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:13 AM

54. So a terrorist attack cannot be motivated by something?

These clowns need to quit spewing their BS.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:13 AM

55. I love the smell of troll in the morning

 

OP is an obvious troll as anyone who has followed his posts knows. 5 negative Obama posts for 1 positive is his MO based on my observations.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:28 PM

57. Your Concern Is Duly Noted.Thank You For Your Input.

I was going to add " Now go fuck yourself" but that would be puerile.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:58 PM

60. Bull crock

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:02 PM

64. Turn off your TVs?

Yeah because hiding helps so much

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:05 PM

65. I HAVE YET TO HEAR WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION SAID THAT IS NOT ACCURATE. If journalists,

pundits, and dem leaders listen to actual quotes re Benghazi they would see the WH was very careful in their wording...and if media took off on a tangent on their own, it's due to their own bias and/or needs.

Still...it is the ONLY topic on RW radio (which is 90% of all talk radio across the nation and probably more than that in swing states). So-called experts are chiming in on how this is the worst action by a president in recent memory, including Watergate. Cover-up. Scandal. Deaths. Incompetence....over and over and over. I don't see why this meme isn't rebutted more strongly. I am hopeful that they have plans to correct public perception soon.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:38 PM

68. Do yourself a favor and put JRLeft on ignore.

This is an agent Provocateur.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:07 PM

69. nice try. but you failed.

 

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:10 PM

70. How many times have we heard the word "devestating" from the "DU nervous Nellies"?

answer: too many times.

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Response to DCBob (Reply #70)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:24 AM

75. It's not just here, either.

You ever been to the Environment & Energy forum? That's basically Nervous Nellie central(or at least, as of the past several months)!

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:14 PM

71. The lead story for the next two weeks?

Nothing is the lead story anywhere now for more than two days.

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Response to NHDEMFORLIFE (Reply #71)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:28 PM

73. Really?

I thought it was two hours.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:22 AM

74. Please, just stop.

I swear, you are about as bad as geek tragedy was a few weeks back about this kind of stuff.

Until we have reason to worry, we shouldn't. It's that simple.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:13 AM

76. This (non) story will not even last two hours

let alone two days. Even Romney's given up on Libya.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:05 AM

79. I'm devastated!

That this story hasn't devastated! Emailmentum?

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