The Benghazi email story could prove to be devastating.

[JRLeft]

The optics look bad. Turn off your TVs because this will be the lead story for the next 2 weeks.

[dennis4868]

1. Please do explain

Not sure what you are talking about.

[grasswire]

2. could you kindly provide some more detail?

I don't have a clue what you are talking about, and a quick perusal of LBN turns up nothing.

[mzmolly]

5. Here

Fox host Greta Van Susteren claimed that recently released State Department emails prove that the Obama administration knew the attack in Benghazi, Libya, was an act of terrorism as it was happening and that it was "ridiculous" for the administration to link the attack to an anti-Islam video. Yet the emails show only that the State Department was aware that an Islamist militia had taken credit for the attack, and other reporting has indicated that the anti-Islam video did, in fact, play a role in the attack.

http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/10/24/foxs-van-susteren-misrepresents-state-dept-emai/190888

[RudynJack]

77. Some Islamist militia

takes credit every time an American stubs his toe. A claim means nothing. Sec. Clinton was absolutely right- a facebook post is not evidence.

[mzmolly]

3. Turn off Faux. Myths that the President didn't refer to the attack as a "terrorist" one immediately

are false. So, I fail to get the "devastating" part?

http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/10/24/foxs-van-susteren-misrepresents-state-dept-emai/190888

Fox host Greta Van Susteren claimed that recently released State Department emails prove that the Obama administration knew the attack in Benghazi, Libya, was an act of terrorism as it was happening and that it was "ridiculous" for the administration to link the attack to an anti-Islam video. Yet the emails show only that the State Department was aware that an Islamist militia had taken credit for the attack, and other reporting has indicated that the anti-Islam video did, in fact, play a role in the attack.

[demvoter4life]

4. How

Does anyone not know its on every mainstream site. It is what made intrade go up 15%. But I brought it up earlier and I was a fox loving, Troll. Dont report anything slightly negative! It is on
CBS
ABC
NBC
Reuters
msnbc

anyway its not going to matter unless the news hounds in on it all day everyday.

[Drunken Irishman]

10. Stop lying...and people won't call you a troll.

Intrade was manipulated by one Romney supporter ... not this non-story.

http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2012/10/intrade-manipulation-fail.html

[mzmolly]

12. Yes, the words Benghazi and emails are being reported on. But only one outlet is spinning.

http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/10/24/foxs-van-susteren-misrepresents-state-dept-emai/190888

[Drunken Irishman]

18. It's not even the top stories on these websites...

ABC News: Candidate: 'God Intended' Pregnancies From Rape

CBS News: Romney skips foreign policy on campaign trailThe GOP candidates, trying to break open a deadlocked race, say they are gaining steam

NBC News: US officials: Iran behind Saudi oil firm cyberattack

[mzmolly]

21. It's mass Romnesia!

Seems some have forgotten the second debate already? I'll post a visual reminder, in an attempt at intervention.

[krawhitham]

67. You are clearly a troll

Obama has picked up 5 points on intrade today, after it was manipulated yesterday

I've had MSNBC on all they they talked about it for no more than 5 minutes

[MADem]

78. He's eating his pizza even as we speak... nt

[bayareamike]

6. This story, apparently

http://www.examiner.com/article/emails-reveal-white-house-knew-terror-group-behind-benghazi-attack

[bayareamike]

8. Still don't think this will be devastating though...

The State Department received emails alleging that the attack was taking place for multiple reasons, that a terrorist group had taken credit for the attack and that the video was responsible. We were receiving mixed messages, just as the Obama Administration has said.

[JRLeft]

7. Emails detail unfolding Benghazi attack on Sept. 11 October 23, 2012 Ambassador Chris Stevens (CBS

Emails detail unfolding Benghazi attack on Sept. 11 October 23, 2012

Ambassador Chris Stevens (CBS News) It was six weeks ago on Tuesday that terrorists attacked the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya. Now, CBS News has obtained email alerts that were put out by the State Department as the attack unfolded. Four Americans were killed in the attack, including Ambassador Christopher Stevens.

These emails contain the earliest description so far of what happened at Benghazi the night of the attack. Read the emails (PDF) Ambassador warned Libya was "volatile and violent" Why no one has been right about Libya CIA saw possible terror ties day after Libya hit: AP

Ambassador Chris Stevens (CBS News) It was six weeks ago on Tuesday that terrorists attacked the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya. Now, CBS News has obtained email alerts that were put out by the State Department as the attack unfolded. Four Americans were killed in the attack, including Ambassador Christopher Stevens.

These emails contain the earliest description so far of what happened at Benghazi the night of the attack. Read the emails (PDF) Ambassador warned Libya was "volatile and violent" Why no one has been right about Libya CIA saw possible terror ties day after Libya hit: AP

http://m.cbsnews.com/storysynopsis.rbml?pageType=eveningNews&catid=57538689&feed_id=29

[ProSense]

9. Why are you hyping RW talking points? n/t

[alcibiades_mystery]

41. JRLeft is a right wing troll and sockpuppet for Blue Yorker

It's not that odd that he would post right wing tripe.

[RomneyLies]

66. Thanks for the heads up

Bookmarking your post for future reference when called to jury duty.

[mzmolly]

14. What's your point? 1. No one disputed the fact that it was a terrorist

act. 2. Groups taking credit for XYZ, do not always mean they are responsible for XYZ.

No wonder the RW is so pissed at Crowley. They thought this mythical story would have legs with an uninformed populace. OOPS!

[creon]

59. Where is the smoking gun?

I have not found the 'smoking gun".

[SweetieD]

11. I don't really see the devastation. The WH has said all along there were mixed signals.

Nothing contradicts what the WH has already said about this issue. Plus the stories just say that a group claimed responsibility on facebook and it mentions another group also claimed responsibility. There were also reports that it was totally spontaneous and thus these groups might have taken advantage of the confusion to claim responsibility for an attack they didn't do. I'm not sure what conservatives would have wanted? For the WH just to say a certain group actually did the attack, when it wasn't known for certain?

[Cali_Democrat]

13. Devastating?

Riiiiight.

Turn off my TV and turn on my computer so I can see lovely posts from you?

[SweetieD]

15. Also see this article from 9/12, the WH specifically mentioned that the group Ansar al Sharia

may have been involved in the attack.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/12/us-libya-usa-attack-idUSBRE88B0EI20120912


Again, where is the devastation? This whole thing is just a rehashing of RW talking points about Libya that have continued to fail to gain traction.

[JRLeft]

16. The media loves controversy. So yeah I expect them to push

this story. Remember the Reverend Wright BS?

[Cali_Democrat]

19. "So yeah I expect them to push this story"

I also expect you to push this story.

[mzmolly]

23. I have a simple, visual answer ... which I posted above.

[Blueprogress]

43. Yes I remember Rev. Wright

and this story will go nowhere just like that the Wright bs.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

56. Reverend Wright!?

You're not just reaching, you're flying.
This thread must be devastating for you.

[creon]

61. Where is the incriminating evidence?

I have not found it.

[SweetieD]

24. Now I know you are a troll.

Obama called it an "Act of terror" the next day and the day after and in the days after.

Also it is a terrorist act whether it was planned or whether it was spontaneous.

Obama did not say the attack was caused by the youtube video. Even if it had been, it would have still been a terrorist act. So what is your point?

[Maeve]

49. And you were right! To no one's surprise but the troll's...

"Troll was allowed to troll well past troll-limit, has now been sent back to trolltown. On the trolley. "
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=294108&sub=trans

[mzmolly]

25. Obama said it was a terrorist attack the next day.

eom

[creon]

62. yes he did

in the rose garden

[chillfactor]

20. guess I missed the "devastating" part....

mixed messages have been coming out of Libya since the attack....

[Maximumnegro]

22. Foreign debate is over. Obama won.

Romney is not doing any press for the rest of the election says MSNBC.

So please explain who is going to care. Especially that Akin's twin just broke national press on God giving thumbs up to rape.

Women are the core vote this year. Which story do you think they're going to care about.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

40. They care more about the deficit, silly!

[A-Schwarzenegger]

26. Romney said "Never mind" in the debate.

Sorry, JR, it was all a dream.

[unc70]

27. You do realize no consulate in Benghazi?!

There wasn't a consulate in Benghazi, only a CIA operation.

[blogslut]

28. Call me kooky. I could be wrong.

But I'm pretty sure that the presidential election campaign will be the top news story for the next 2 weeks.

[NewsCenter28]

31. Why are you buying into Faux propaganda?

This will not be a story this time tomorrow night. Obama's Leno appearance and swing state campaign tour will steal the spotlight. Not to mention that Libya has been litigated to death and is baked into the cake so to speak. Also, not to mention that the administration discussed Answar-Al-islam or whatever they call themselves being involved on 9/12 itself per the Reuters article.

Also, what is the point of spreading this news??

[A-Schwarzenegger]

32. I think you misdirected this.

You meant it to be aimed at the OP, right?

[NewsCenter28]

34. Right, sorry A-S-It's directed to JR

I just replied to the last post on the thread at the time that I posted. I'm new here. So, still learning the ropes so to speak. My apologies!

[A-Schwarzenegger]

36. I've done the exact same thing.

[ejbr]

42. Can you be both right

AND kooky?

[blogslut]

58. Yes!

[budkin]

29. CROFL!

Another one of these threads...

[Warren DeMontague]

30. Many things "could" happen. Rick Santorum could show up naked on my doorstep tweaking on meth.

It's not hugely likely, but it's within the realm of possibility.

[octoberlib]

33. It annoys me when these panic threads aren't accompanied with links and research

in the original post.

[Amonester]

35. Apparently, nobody's interested in anything about foreign policy...

Well, almost nobody.

[Bolo Boffin]

37. How do emails that confirm the administration's story become devastating?

But thank you for your concern.

[demgrrrll]

38. I just saw this on my MSNBC feed, wondered what was going on glad I came here

Yes they will try and spin this but they will fail, he said it was an act of terror the next day didn't he.. Give me a break.

[jsmirman]

39. Two weeks ago just called. It wants its bullshit narrative back.

Even Romney wouldn't touch this in debate 3.

This OP is ridiculous.

[OldDem2012]

44. With all due respect, you're full of it. Do better homework. nt.

[myrna minx]

45. LOL. Um. No. Trump has some DEVASTATING Noooz too!11!11

[morningfog]

46. You vastly overstate the impact. It will be negligible. And won't "lead for the next 2 weeks."

If it leads at all, it will only be a day or two. New shiny objects will come along soon enough and the low info voter will promptly forget what they never really understood.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

47. It's a bullshit argument....

The whole Benghazi tragedy is a bullshit non-issue.

A group of islamist militants used civil unrest to mask a direct strike on the consulate in Benghazi. It worked. For several days afterwords, it was assumed that the whole thing was the actions of a mob, until more evidence came to light that untimately proved otherwise.

Case closed.

But in fact, if you look at the statements made by the White House during the week or so after the attack, their every utterance was always accompanied by the phrase "as far as we know" or "to the best of our knowledge." Until it had the facts, the White House was not being definitive one way or the other.

Obama did EXACTLY what a responsible adult would do -- hold off until all the evidence has been gathered. Don't tip off the militants that we're investigating. Don't shoot first and ask questions later. Only an asshat Republican who wants to score political points off the dead body of Ambassador Christopher Stevens would try to make this an issue, and that's exactly what they're doing.

[Chichiri]

48. Thanks for your concern.

[reflection]

50. Benghazi is over as it pertains to this election.

And the "email story" is a complete nontroversy. Any time something blows up, 50 extremist groups jockey for position to take credit. I read this story this morning and it didn't even raise an eyebrow with me. I actually hope the Republicans focus on this for the next two weeks. It will move the narrative to "foreign affairs" which is the exact debate where Obama took Mitt behind the woodshed.

[wiggs]

63. Benghazi is the ONLY topic on RW radio today...listened to two shows off and on for a bit. For the

90% of talk radio airtime that is RW, that's what's important today.

Among thinking people, it is over as an issue. That doesn't mean it's over wrt the election.

[reflection]

72. Respectfully disagree.

This is already baked in the cake for anyone that gets their news from AM radio. It won't add one more vote for Romney.

[scheming daemons]

51. go back to troll school... you are making rookie mistakes

[Firebirds01]

52. ABC News Story

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/email-alerts-describe-911-benghazi-consulate-assault-unfolding/


Last line: "The timing of the emails is consistent with what a senior State Department official told reporters at a briefing on Oct. 9."


Our guys were honest and open the whole time. Fox Lies, never forget that.

[BelieveMe3]

53. the emails prove what?

It was an extremist act? So what. No matter what the motivation of course it was!!! And a terrorist act too!!

I think the repubs are fools to dwell on how scary the world is right now-Romney showed he is not up to the job of being commander in chief and people do not trust him on foreign policy. So by talking about Libya over and over it only means people will be scared and won't trust Romney who doesn't know where Syria is, to be in charge.

[tarheelsunc]

54. So a terrorist attack cannot be motivated by something?

These clowns need to quit spewing their BS.

[Floyd_Gondolli]

55. I love the smell of troll in the morning

OP is an obvious troll as anyone who has followed his posts knows. 5 negative Obama posts for 1 positive is his MO based on my observations.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

57. Your Concern Is Duly Noted.Thank You For Your Input.

I was going to add " Now go fuck yourself" but that would be puerile.

[LiberalFighter]

60. Bull crock

[krawhitham]

64. Turn off your TVs?

Yeah because hiding helps so much

[wiggs]

65. I HAVE YET TO HEAR WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION SAID THAT IS NOT ACCURATE. If journalists,

pundits, and dem leaders listen to actual quotes re Benghazi they would see the WH was very careful in their wording...and if media took off on a tangent on their own, it's due to their own bias and/or needs.

Still...it is the ONLY topic on RW radio (which is 90% of all talk radio across the nation and probably more than that in swing states). So-called experts are chiming in on how this is the worst action by a president in recent memory, including Watergate. Cover-up. Scandal. Deaths. Incompetence....over and over and over. I don't see why this meme isn't rebutted more strongly. I am hopeful that they have plans to correct public perception soon.

[Blue Idaho]

68. Do yourself a favor and put JRLeft on ignore.

This is an agent Provocateur.

[MjolnirTime]

69. nice try. but you failed.

[DCBob]

70. How many times have we heard the word "devestating" from the "DU nervous Nellies"?

answer: too many times.

[AverageJoe90]

75. It's not just here, either.

You ever been to the Environment & Energy forum? That's basically Nervous Nellie central(or at least, as of the past several months)!

[NHDEMFORLIFE]

71. The lead story for the next two weeks?

Nothing is the lead story anywhere now for more than two days.

[LP2K12]

73. Really?

I thought it was two hours.

[AverageJoe90]

74. Please, just stop.

I swear, you are about as bad as geek tragedy was a few weeks back about this kind of stuff.

Until we have reason to worry, we shouldn't. It's that simple.

[taught_me_patience]

76. This (non) story will not even last two hours

let alone two days. Even Romney's given up on Libya.

[Maximumnegro]

79. I'm devastated!

That this story hasn't devastated! Emailmentum?