2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSanders Campaign has devolved from somewhat inspiring to downright embarrassing
The Sanders campaign is turning out to be keystone cop operation.
At first, he was running what at least aspired to be an inspirational campaign. Though it always left me a little cold, personally, from the beginning. I gave him credit for having his heart in the right place.
But now he is in desperation mode. And it's a very sorry sight.
Just think about the silly Vatican escapade. It seems as though the real story is that he somehow through a series of connections wrangled his way into tiny academic conference in the Vatican. He was added an afterthought, without even a speaking slot.
All the while, he was, either through a misunderstanding (more likely) or mendaciousness (possible but not likely) selling this wrangled invitation as coming from the Pope and offering Sanders a personal meeting with the Pontiff himself.
When that was exposed as an untruth -- I won't say lie, since he may have been led by his aides or intermediaries to believe it -- he and his aides were still acting as if he would be some sort of headliner at said little conference and that it was some sort of great honor to be invited. Turns out not to be the whole story. Otherwise, he wouldn't have had to be shoe-horned in between already and probably long-ago planned sessions. He is clearly an afterthought. There only because of the wrangling of him and/or his intermediaries.
That's admittedly a pretty small thing, in the great scheme of things. But it is a symptom of a bigger rot that seems to spreading throughout his increasingly desperate campaign.
Think of the way he has earned Pinnochio and after Pinnochio over the past month. Think of his baldly sexist attack on Hillary Clinton's qualifications. In all seriousness, if you think that wasn't a bit of implicit sexism, do you think he would have deigned to call a man with a record similar to Hillary's unqualified? There is such a person, you know. That would be John Kerry. He too served as a Senator and Secretary of State (and had a very similar voting record). Would Sanders have thought for an instant to apply the term unqualified to him?
And then there is the flip flop on the super delegate thing. First he declares that super delegates should follow the "will of the people" when he vainly hoped hat the will of the people would be with him. But when that vain hope is dashed he says that the super delegates will follow him and ignore the will of the people
But just to cover his rear, since he knows he isn't going to get more votes or more delegates, he has to diss the voters -- especially black voters in the South.
His whole attack on the 90's and the crime bill for which he voted is just him trying to talk down to black people, again, especially those who support Clinton, as if he knows better than they where their true interests then lay and still lie.
Forget the pie-in-the sky, impracticality of many of his ideas -- which was my original reason for not backing him and preferring Hillary. Whatever the merits of those ideas, his campaign has turned into a sad, ugly, desperate spectacle. I really hope it ends soon.
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)islandmkl
(5,275 posts)islandmkl
(5,275 posts)well, not in this case, not really...
this OP was about as surprising as the sunrise in the east...
riversedge
(70,214 posts)Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)I say Stop copy-catting our platform!
Armstead
(47,803 posts)HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)jmg257
(11,996 posts)Its OK - Really - Hill will be in her element too, hanging with the Clooneys in the Bay Area.
"Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders will head to Vatican City just days before the New York primary to attend a meeting on social justice and economic issues."
""According to a report in Politico, Clooney and his wife attorney Amal Clooney will be sitting at the head table of an April 15th fundraiser in San Francisco along with Clinton. To sit alongside the candidate and her celebrity pals, donors just need to raise a cool $353,000."
Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)jmg257
(11,996 posts)Vinca
(50,270 posts)I've got a feeling the POTUS shouldn't have ticked off the FBI. LOL.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)chascarrillo
(3,897 posts)Almost sounds, I don't know, presidential.
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)couldn't make it.
I'm Bernie is still upset Hugo Chavez died.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)in allocating blame for these missteps. Some of the worst may be the campaign staff, but Bernie has not only gone along with things, but done so after learning he was in error.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Entirely false, bigoted and insulting to those who lived that history. A moment of towering ignorance that is beneath the dignity of the office of the President.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)Disgusting. Another one her "mistakes."
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)Vatican visit faux scandal, and now they assemble to pat each other on the back as if it were "job well done". How incredibly transparent they are and they don't even know it. Eh...that's life inside the beltway bubble I suppose.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)At least come up with something original Bernie. Copying whacked out teabaggers is embarrassing.
Pope's meeting with Kim Davis not an endorsement, Vatican says
By Ed Payne and Daniel Burke, CNN
Updated 1:44 PM ET, Fri October 2, 2015
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/02/us/kim-davis-pope/
Human101948
(3,457 posts)Clinton opposed same-sex marriage as a candidate for the Senate, while in office as a senator, and while running for president in 2008. She expressed her support for civil unions starting in 2000 and for the rights of states to set their own laws in favor of same-sex marriage in 2006.
As polls showed that a majority of Americans supported same-sex marriage, Clintons views changed, too. She announced her support for same-sex marriage in March 2013.
Its up to voters to decide how they feel about her changed stance, but on same-sex marriage we give Clinton a Full Flop.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jun/17/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-change-position-same-sex-marriage/
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)day one, all smears and relentless negativity of a virulent nature that smacks of the bias that infests Camp Clinton on DU and elsewhere.
katsy
(4,246 posts)Just on her email scandal.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/03/09/fact-checking-the-hillary-clinton-email-controversy/
The rest of this op is just too silly to consider.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)"It may be hard for your viewers to remember how difficult it was for people to talk about HIV/AIDS back in the 1980s and because of both president and Mrs. Reagan in particular Mrs. Reagan we started a national conversation, when before nobody would talk about it, nobody wanted to do anything about it, and that too is something I really appreciate with her very effective low-key advocacy. It penetrated the public conscience and people began to say, hey, we have to do something about this too."
It's all lies and she opens by claiming her recollection is just better than that of others. Then she spews a fictional narrative apparently meant to pander to Reagan Democrats or Republicans....
katsy
(4,246 posts)Bring up this nonsense. Glass houses and all...
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)Probably as a fucked-up triangulation strategy, just like that crime bill.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)She lies as a default instinct, and in 2008 did her best to make Obama look like a nefarious cult leader who had no experience or qualifications.
If Clinton is the common denominator in two separate campaigns against two thoroughly decent and honorable men, then I wouldn't put it on Sanders or Obama.
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)Oh noes!
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)that enthusiasm.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)livetohike
(22,142 posts)silvershadow
(10,336 posts)He's gaining at every turn, as the other campaign is in free-fall
Here's a little tune in honor of Camp Weathervane's woes:
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)They probably didn't mean for their hoods to slip until after the primaries were over
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511707289
Sky Masterson
(5,240 posts)Please..
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)No one believes you. No one.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... he's really NOT the paragon of virtue that his supporters hold him up to be. He's just another politician like any other.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)TheSarcastinator
(854 posts)Keep telling yourself that Bernie and Hillary are ethical equals: the cognitive dissonance and self-deception necessary for such a position only feeds into the perception that Her Majesty is a stone cold fraud.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... trusts the wrong people. Bad judgement.
Bill USA
(6,436 posts)[font size="+1"]A heretics fate[/font]
jrandom421
(1,004 posts)I'd prefer a Honey Barbeque Sauce with a hint of ginger and garlic. If I'm gonna be burned, at least I'll smell good!
Ron Green
(9,822 posts)It's clear you're not interested in either a fair analysis or fundamental change.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)4dsc
(5,787 posts)and some people want change. You don't want change so your part of the problem. Thanks for the clarification.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Buddyblazon
(3,014 posts)Several paragraphs convincing others while trying to convince themselves.
Don't look at us for approval. Go on with your insecure self.
apcalc
(4,465 posts)And I have found him inspirational early on regarding some economic topics. These things are those that we need to talk about. We need to move the meter in his direction.
My feeling is that he is an idea guy. Sort of a " global" thinker. We need those kinds of people. As for implementing any of these ideas , it seems he has little actual practical plans. I find his follow through very lacking. Honestly, as he explains it, I think he doesn't know how to proceed. What will he do when he hits the brick wall ( to date) in the House ? He can't articulate his plans with much detail beyond the origin.
We also need people like Hillary, who are planners and doers, who can follow through, monitor and adjust, take the plans as far as they go. We also need someone who understands the world with a wide angle lens, not a narrow view, like the Republican view. She excels there.
It would be great if it wasn't an either/or.
At times, I do find Sanders "ego" way out of the box, sort of like Trump. ( a contested convention? WOWEE. ). I wish he did something for the
Democratic Party, down ballot Democrats like she is doing. We need to elect Democrats. Maybe he will. I am hopeful.
yardwork
(61,607 posts)I'm still annoyed that the Sanders campaign sued the DNC after they admitted that they stole data. Tried to shift the blame to Hillary. Say what?
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)And you want to talk embarrassing? Embarrassing is HRC's "PC time" skit.
That was a memorable fail. As always, an unforced error. She screws up a LOT.