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CNN's John King: Trend Line Is Moving Governor Romney's Way (Original Post) TroyD Oct 2012 OP
the trendline MFM008 Oct 2012 #1
+1 octoberlib Oct 2012 #7
I'm thinking I"m gonna be trashing this thread...... FrenchieCat Oct 2012 #2
Trash away TroyD Oct 2012 #10
It's getting play....cause you just posted his smut here...... FrenchieCat Oct 2012 #12
But Troy hopes he's wrong! A-Schwarzenegger Oct 2012 #21
Yep......sure! FrenchieCat Oct 2012 #22
It's likely someone was going to post it, so really what the hell does it matter davidpdx Oct 2012 #28
With All Do Respect You Could Fit All Of CNN's Listeners Into A Phone Booth. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #29
What do you think, TroyD? A-Schwarzenegger Oct 2012 #3
The current polling & Electoral College still appear to favor Obama TroyD Oct 2012 #6
I put as much stock in John King's commentary Summer Hathaway Oct 2012 #4
I put as much stock in John King(cnn mediaWhore) as I Cha Oct 2012 #14
The trendline, the trajectory BeyondGeography Oct 2012 #5
the lines lead directly to vote manipulation in Florida and Ohio Supersedeas Oct 2012 #33
I've always felt John King was a very fair and articulate pundit/analyst. His comment worries me DMacTX Oct 2012 #8
You thought like Ceasar....... FrenchieCat Oct 2012 #13
John King declared Obama the winner of the debate tonight TroyD Oct 2012 #15
Yeah, sometimes it's hard to tell if somebody is stupid A-Schwarzenegger Oct 2012 #23
Actually, John King is a cnn mediawhore...so Cha Oct 2012 #19
Your Concern Is Duly Noted.Thank You For Your Input./nt DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #30
Humm, given John King's enormous journalism cred and Surya Gayatri Oct 2012 #9
Maybe we all should just give up hogwyld Oct 2012 #39
The trend is no longer moving Romney's way. woolldog Oct 2012 #11
Trend lines tend to move when a candidate exceeds expectations. Chan790 Oct 2012 #16
I don't know about shit in his pants....... FrenchieCat Oct 2012 #18
The Award for the Palin moment goes to Mittens Cosmocat Oct 2012 #27
You know how it is with trends... dchill Oct 2012 #17
I call Bullshit on John King-cnn-MediaWhore. Cha Oct 2012 #20
John King has shit for brains. MjolnirTime Oct 2012 #24
Probally because most demvoter4life Oct 2012 #25
I think your statement and John King misrepresents reality. fasttense Oct 2012 #26
"Gallup" not "Gallop" and Fox News? UPI? SurveyUSA? (R)assussen? yep.. fair and balanced. progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #36
Flushing in 3...2...1. nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #31
.. nc4bo Oct 2012 #32
bullshit GeorgeGist Oct 2012 #34
Trying to create momentum where there is none. TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #35
John King tosh Oct 2012 #37
Don't forget who openly supports whom DFW Oct 2012 #38
John King is such a fu*&ing TOOL BigDemVoter Oct 2012 #40

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
2. I'm thinking I"m gonna be trashing this thread......
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 02:36 AM
Oct 2012

What about you, oh great Poll Posting Personnage???? What do you think about the shit you posted here?

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
10. Trash away
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 02:45 AM
Oct 2012

I hope John King is wrong, so direct your trashing at him.

This is getting some play tonight, so as always, it's important to be aware of the narrative that is out there, whether we like it or not.

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
22. Yep......sure!
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 03:11 AM
Oct 2012

Just waiting for him to post on what Ann Coulter said while he's at it!

I stopped watching CNN for a reason, and John Media Whore King is one of them.
I don't need to see his name next to a negative quote on the Presidential race
15 days out (right after a winning O debate) on this forum.

If I want fucked up news about what some Corporate Media Whore said,
I can go to FreeperRepublic and get a link to that bullshit!

Just sayin'.....

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
28. It's likely someone was going to post it, so really what the hell does it matter
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 08:36 AM
Oct 2012

I'm not sure why you and others treat this person like crap. You'll find on here I often stand up for people, and I am certainly not a troll. I've been on 4 1/2 years and have 6,000 posts.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
6. The current polling & Electoral College still appear to favor Obama
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 02:42 AM
Oct 2012

And Nate Silver showed Obama going up to 70% today.

But as I always say, it's important to be cautious and watch out for the Republicans.

John King is right that the gap did narrow after the first debate, but he appears to be leaping to conclusions here.

David Gergen looks like he doesn't entirely agree with John in the clip.

Summer Hathaway

(2,770 posts)
4. I put as much stock in John King's commentary
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 02:39 AM
Oct 2012

as I did Baghdad Bob's.















Okay, maybe a bit more stock in Baghdad Bob.

DMacTX

(301 posts)
8. I've always felt John King was a very fair and articulate pundit/analyst. His comment worries me
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 02:43 AM
Oct 2012

a little......

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
15. John King declared Obama the winner of the debate tonight
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 02:52 AM
Oct 2012

Which is why I was surprised by tonight's comment about the trendline.

But I see where he is coming from. Romney has narrowed the race from where it was a few weeks ago and put states in play for himself that were out of reach.

But I think John King should wait a few days before making any conclusions.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
9. Humm, given John King's enormous journalism cred and
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 02:44 AM
Oct 2012

Last edited Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:58 AM - Edit history (1)

impeccable record as a political pundit, I suppose we should be quaking in our boots, huh?
Whadda ya think, Troy?

hogwyld

(3,436 posts)
39. Maybe we all should just give up
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:46 PM
Oct 2012

and face the inevitability of the coming Rmoney apocalypse. Obama should just give his concession speech tonight and save us the pain.... Oh yeah, sarcasm...

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
16. Trend lines tend to move when a candidate exceeds expectations.
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 02:53 AM
Oct 2012

Considering that Governor Romney did not come out in any debate drool on himself and shit his pants, one could make an argument that he did exceed expectations.

Ultimately, going from a 0% chance of victory to 30% chance of victory is significant...but still the difference between losing and losing.

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
18. I don't know about shit in his pants.......
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 02:57 AM
Oct 2012

Last edited Tue Oct 23, 2012, 03:28 AM - Edit history (1)

But.....




and....



and....



and...

Almost falling off the stage: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251167220

If that's not underperforming, than I don't know what is!

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
27. The Award for the Palin moment goes to Mittens
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 07:52 AM
Oct 2012

seriously, there is a lot to work with, but the Syria is their route to the sea thing should be getting A LOT of talk.

 

demvoter4life

(15 posts)
25. Probally because most
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 04:23 AM
Oct 2012

Of the trackers have romney ahead. Just 2 months ago Obama was up +7 average.
latest poll of each company since first debate showing romney lead.
Gallop
Rasmussen
survey USA
Battleground Politico
PPP tracker just released http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/102010211022TrackingPoll.pdf
they got a 55% female to 45% male ratio and still have romney +2 how?
UpI
Fox
Pew Research

They like to ignore all polls showing obama up granted there are less right now.
http://electoralmap.net/2012/intrade.php (always accurate more so then public polls)

that Ohio number at 54% keeps dropping.

I get every poll as soon as it comes out and nationally I hate to say cutting out gravis(they dont do many national polls)
Romney is ahead about 0.6 of a point.
With no Rasmussen romney is ahead about 0.15 points. In all honestly he does have a tiny lead Nationally. Snce the first debate. I know im a troll debby downer ect. But it all comes down to GOTV and Margin of error in the national vs state polls. Vote, Contribute, Talk to family and Friends ect. Its going to be close. Im a realist and wont contribute to the Obama in a landslide post that was floating around. Use calm rationality not Obama is going to win by 15+ points. Also know do whatever you can do to help, and 60% chance of winning is better then a coin flip. Call me a troll or whatever you like Obama had this in the bag....now the VP debate and the Last 2 President Debates failed to move the Polls (this one wont Either Less viewers, PPP and CNN showed no difference in vote although Obama cleary won.) The Electorate is stubborn and the "I dont know attention people" will vote for whoever tells them to (if they vote) basically leaving the winner up to the Same people you see on MSNBC post debate focus groups. whoever can get 3% of the uninformed idiot vote will win. Leaving the presidency in the hands of 5% of people who know nothing of politics and have no idea who is lying in the debates. These are the people that watch the debates and vote who there BF's, Parents, Friends tell them to. They dont watch the news or know the facts. That is why Obama "lost" the first debate. whoever changed there mind did so watched it and probally did not watch another debate. BOOM there mind was made up Romney it is (he seemed like he wanted it more although I didnt listen to much) I have heard that 3x by yes real people. I personally dont get it, but a 4% switch is only 1 in 25 people and that is what happened.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
26. I think your statement and John King misrepresents reality.
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 06:14 AM
Oct 2012

Even Intrade has Obama winning with a substantial lead.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
36. "Gallup" not "Gallop" and Fox News? UPI? SurveyUSA? (R)assussen? yep.. fair and balanced.
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 04:29 PM
Oct 2012

Do you understand polling? Do you know that we don't elect the President based on popular vote?

Do you understand LIKELY VOTER models? Which exclude people based on the color of their skin, their income, and their age???

DFW

(54,370 posts)
38. Don't forget who openly supports whom
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 04:35 PM
Oct 2012

John King, Chuck Todd, David Gregory, Wolf Blitzer, and, at least up to recently-until the right trashed her after doing a credible job in the second debate, Candy Crowley...........this was a partial list of openly Republican-friendly "newscasters-" commentators on CNN.

Expect it from them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Crowley has now seen the true ugly face of her followers--maybe she will acquire some objectivity because of it. I doubt it, but stranger things have happened. The rest of them are papered-over Fox clones, and have only slightly more objectivity than Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity.

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