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angrychair

(8,771 posts)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 04:31 PM Apr 2016

LOOK: Bernie Sanders financial information

Look, don't tell anyone, it's a secret, I found all of Bernie Sanders financial fillings in a secret place called the "Internet" by looking for 5 whole minutes.
Whatever you do, don't tell the the Clinton SuperPACs and "media outlets" or they might discover this secret hiding place called the "Internet" and tell everyone all of Bernie Sanders financial secrets:

https://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/reports.php?year=2004&cid=N00000528

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LOOK: Bernie Sanders financial information (Original Post) angrychair Apr 2016 OP
Who woulda thunk? smiley Apr 2016 #1
Not tax returns MattP Apr 2016 #2
Better than tax returns angrychair Apr 2016 #8
Right, they are senate financial disclosures, which are BETTER than tax returns. phleshdef Apr 2016 #9
NO - you didn't brooklynite Apr 2016 #3
Excuse? beedle Apr 2016 #5
Why does he need "a team of lawyers and tax accounts"? brooklynite Apr 2016 #7
These are not "campaign fillings" angrychair Apr 2016 #6
ANY CANDIDATE FOR FEDERAL OFFICE FILES THESE FORMS. I KNOW BECAUSE I WAS A CANDIDATE FOR CONGRESS! CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #22
Nothing to beat here but your post....lol! Segami Apr 2016 #10
BTW - can you tell us which of those campaign reports addresses the FEC complaints? brooklynite Apr 2016 #4
Since there isnt an FEC complaint angrychair Apr 2016 #12
FEC letters to the Sanders campaign: brooklynite Apr 2016 #34
Whats Bern hiding in his Tax Returns..........?????? Cryptoad Apr 2016 #11
Follow the link angrychair Apr 2016 #13
I follow the link Cryptoad Apr 2016 #15
You downloaded and read all of his disclosures already? Wow I am IMPRESSED!!! beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #18
Specifically angrychair Apr 2016 #25
His 1040's have been released. TM99 Apr 2016 #31
Lol Hydra Apr 2016 #14
Another non-issue, "Sanders takes Lobbyist money just like she does" Dragonfli Apr 2016 #32
Not tax returns....but I'm pretty sure you know that already. n/t Lucinda Apr 2016 #16
Specifically angrychair Apr 2016 #24
Then it should be no problem to publish them, right? Lucinda Apr 2016 #26
He never said he wasn't angrychair Apr 2016 #27
LOL He should have done it already. This is the second time he has said he couldn't do it now. Lucinda Apr 2016 #28
I'm not concerned angrychair Apr 2016 #29
Transcripts plz n/t Hydra Apr 2016 #33
and people can find Clinton speeches on youTube. your point being? nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #17
Not all of them, people aren't stupid enough to believe that. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #19
Could you find me the videos of the speeches she gave here for the two big banks pushing polly7 Apr 2016 #21
ZOMG HE MUST HAVE BEEN PAID PENNIES FROM SPECIAL INTERESTS!!! beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #20
Hillary only released her 1040's too, WHAT'S HILLARY HIDING??? beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #23
Her full tax returns are at that link, did you click any of the returns? MattP Apr 2016 #30

angrychair

(8,771 posts)
8. Better than tax returns
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 04:44 PM
Apr 2016

These are his Senate financial disclosure forms that list all income and investments for him and his wife for the last 20 years. What more are you trolling for?

brooklynite

(95,187 posts)
3. NO - you didn't
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 04:36 PM
Apr 2016

You found his CAMPAIGN filings with the FEC....which amazingly enough, can be found at the FEC website.

You DID NOT find his PERSONAL filings...which amazingly enough, CANNOT be found at the IRS website. He has to release them.

And if his personal filings WERE available, why did he need to come up with an excuse like "we've been busy".

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
5. Excuse?
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 04:41 PM
Apr 2016

Surprisingly enough Sanders doesn't have a team of lawyers and tax accounts .. Maybe Hillary can give him the name of a good one? Or lend him 10 or 20 of hers for a week or so?

If the Clintons have experience in one thing, it's getting the right people on the right books to present the "right truth".

I'll cut Bernie some slack for not being on top of the Presidential campaign bureaucracy like Clinton's.

brooklynite

(95,187 posts)
7. Why does he need "a team of lawyers and tax accounts"?
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 04:43 PM
Apr 2016

All he needs is the tax forms he filed for the last five years, and a Jr. staffer to drive down to Kinko's.

angrychair

(8,771 posts)
6. These are not "campaign fillings"
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 04:41 PM
Apr 2016

These are his Senate and House financial disclosures as he is a sitting U.S. Senator. They are far more detailed than his tax returns as they are all income sources and investments for him and his wife. Isn't that what your concern trolling about? That he somehow has some secret source of money or a secret account? Everything is there.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
22. ANY CANDIDATE FOR FEDERAL OFFICE FILES THESE FORMS. I KNOW BECAUSE I WAS A CANDIDATE FOR CONGRESS!
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 05:26 PM
Apr 2016

THEY PROVIDE A RANGE... of asset levels and investment and other income. That's it...

Obama has to fill out the same thing!

angrychair

(8,771 posts)
12. Since there isnt an FEC complaint
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 05:04 PM
Apr 2016

That would be hard. There were some questions which were already answered.

angrychair

(8,771 posts)
13. Follow the link
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 05:08 PM
Apr 2016

All your "concerns" will be answered. There is 16+ years of House and Senate financial disclosure fillings that are more detailed than tax returns as they show all sources of income, accounts and investments with all assets and liabilities. What more could you be concern trolling about about?

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
15. I follow the link
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 05:11 PM
Apr 2016

why want he release his tax returns?? Tell me he is hiding something. Penalty for signing false IRS form are far worst than those forms u are taking about.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
18. You downloaded and read all of his disclosures already? Wow I am IMPRESSED!!!
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 05:17 PM
Apr 2016

We have a speed reader here, folks.

What parts do you have questions about?

angrychair

(8,771 posts)
25. Specifically
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 06:02 PM
Apr 2016

What do you think is in his tax returns that are not in his financial disclosures? You already know his salary and his financial disclosures list all accounts, all investments, all assets and all liabilities. What are your explicit concerns?

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
31. His 1040's have been released.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 06:18 PM
Apr 2016

Go look at them. The IRS does not currently have an active investigation open on the Sanders family or campaign.

Now the FBI does on Clinton, so maybe you are 1) being disingenuous, 2) attempt to deflect from your own candidate's failings, 3) are trying to rat-fuck him because your candidate is a corrupt narcissist?

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
14. Lol
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 05:10 PM
Apr 2016

It's another non-issue presented by an increasingly desperate Team Hill

You guys should ask for some time off, and take your boss with you. You guys could de-stress and maybe come back with some positive points to post. If nothing else, the water's fine down there.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
32. Another non-issue, "Sanders takes Lobbyist money just like she does"
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 06:43 PM
Apr 2016

No, not like she does the total is a whopping $3,200 and all from progressive causes and individuals, unlike her and NOT CORPORATE large scale bundles and dark money to PACs in the millions of dollars like her.

“One of the many messages our campaign has effectively sent to the political establishment of this country is that the American people have had enough of the billionaire class buying elections,” Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver told the Center for Public Integrity.

Added Mike Casca, Sanders’s rapid-response director: "Bernie’s campaign is fueled by individual contributions averaging under $30—not lobbyists bundling six figures at private events."

A Clinton campaign spokesperson did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

To be sure, lobbyist donations—about $3,200 overall—represent a tiny fraction of the more than $96 million Sanders has raised for his underdog presidential bid. About 70 percent of that sum comes from small-dollar donors who have given Sanders $200 or less.

Sanders’s anti–big money, anti–special interest mantra has resonated with many voters, who have lifted him to victory against Clinton in several primary and caucus contests.

The lobbyist cash the Sanders campaign has collected has come from traditionally left-leaning causes: labor unions, environmentalists, the American Civil Liberties Union.

For instance, John M. Walsh, a lobbyist for the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, contributed $500 to Sanders last year.

Other labor lobbyists giving Sanders money include Ian Hoffmann, a lobbyist for the American Federation of Government Employees, who contributed $235, and Michael Dolan, a lobbyist for the Teamsters, who gave $100.

Each lobbyist declined to comment.

Lobbyist Michael Correia of the National Cannabis Industry Association also donated $500 to Sanders last year. That’s tied for the largest amount among Sanders’s lobbyist contributors to date.

Correia, who also gave $500 to Republican Rand Paul, told the Center for Public Integrity he contributed to both presidential campaigns because it was an “opportunity to reward somebody” for being a leader on cannabis policy.

In November, Sanders introduced a bill to decriminalize marijuana.

“I can understand when he uses the rhetoric about lobbyists or the power of corporations—I get that,” Correia continued, adding that lobbying the government is a constitutionally protected right. “I can proudly say that I’m a lobbyist.… I’m doing something that I think is right and on the right side of history.”

That sentiment was reiterated by other lobbyists contacted by the Center for Public Integrity.

One Sanders-supporting lobbyist who refused to be quoted by name said, “I’m a good lobbyist,” and insisted that “not all lobbyists are unethical.”

Most lobbyists who’ve contributed to Sanders’s campaign simply didn’t want to discuss their donations.

“Unfortunately, I can’t discuss my personal political affiliations on the record,” said Ian Thompson, a lobbyist at the American Civil Liberties Union who has given $170 to Sanders.

“I respectfully decline comment,” echoed Robert Henson, a lobbyist at Credit Union National Association who has donated $100 to Sanders.

Likewise, Amanda Aspatore, a lobbyist at the National Mining Association who has given Sanders $250, declined to discuss her contribution. “I’m not going to comment on that,” she said.

http://www.newsweek.com/sanders-hillary-clinton-democrats-bernie-lobbyists-cannabis-brotherhood-436080

They like to leave out the important stuff and act like kids that say, "but my sister eats cookies too!" after getting caught sealing hundreds of boxes of girl scout cookies from the garage, it is not the same when the sister got "caught" eating a cookie put in her lunchbox by mom, but they gotta' justify the bad action somehow.

angrychair

(8,771 posts)
24. Specifically
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 06:01 PM
Apr 2016

What do you think is in his tax returns that are not in his financial disclosures? You already know his salary and his financial disclosures list all accounts, all assets and all liabilities. What are your explicit concerns?

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
26. Then it should be no problem to publish them, right?
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 06:04 PM
Apr 2016

It's customary for the candidates to publish them. Why isn't he?

angrychair

(8,771 posts)
27. He never said he wasn't
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 06:06 PM
Apr 2016

He just hasn't yet. It's not a race.

You didn't answer my question though, so I'll ask again:
What do you think is in his tax returns that are not in his financial disclosures? You already know his salary and his financial disclosures list all accounts, all assets and all liabilities. What are your explicit concerns?

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
28. LOL He should have done it already. This is the second time he has said he couldn't do it now.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 06:09 PM
Apr 2016

And I don't presume to know what is in his taxes. We'll see what there is to see if and when he releases them.
Your guy shouldn't have any problems with the info coming out, right? So what is the big deal?

angrychair

(8,771 posts)
29. I'm not concerned
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 06:12 PM
Apr 2016

You are.
"He should have done it already"? Since there is no legal requirement, much less a deadline, that statement is false.

Since you didn't answer, I will ask again:
What do you think is in his tax returns that are not in his financial disclosures? You already know his salary and his financial disclosures list all accounts, all assets and all liabilities. What are your explicit concerns?

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
19. Not all of them, people aren't stupid enough to believe that.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 05:19 PM
Apr 2016

Last edited Sun Apr 3, 2016, 06:39 PM - Edit history (2)

She refuses to release the transcripts, why?

polly7

(20,582 posts)
21. Could you find me the videos of the speeches she gave here for the two big banks pushing
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 05:23 PM
Apr 2016

Keystone XL?? I've looked everywhere, a dozen times. Please and thank you.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
20. ZOMG HE MUST HAVE BEEN PAID PENNIES FROM SPECIAL INTERESTS!!!
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 05:20 PM
Apr 2016

From Money Nation, the article has a full breakdown of the net worth of one of the poorest senators in Washington:

We estimate Bernie Sanders’ net worth at $528,014. That’s 7.8 times larger than the net worth of the median American family. However, since all senator net worths are estimates, it’s possible Bernie Sanders’ net worth is much lower. In fact, Bernie Sanders’ net worth could be as low as $222,026. That’s 3.3 times larger than the net worth of the median American family. Finally, the Bernie Sanders net worth average of $528,014 is about twice the net worth of others in his age group.

According to Center for Responsive Politics and Money Nation data:

Bernie Sanders Net Worth August 2015: $528,014
Bernie Sanders Net Worth May 2015: $440,511
Bernie Sanders Net Worth 2014: $330,408
Bernie Sanders Net Worth 2013: $330,506
Bernie Sanders Net Worth 2012: $460,506
Net Worth 2011: $308,005
Net Worth 2010: $429,004
Net Worth 2009: $105,003
Net Worth 2008: $219,504
Net Worth 2007: $345,503
Net Worth 2006: $188,504
Net Worth 2005: $128,001
Net Worth 2004: $115,501

Bernie Sanders’ net worth has fluctuated over time, from $115,501 in 2004 to $345,503 in 2007. The 2008 financial crisis may have caused a drop of 36% of Sander’s net worth in that year. Sanders’ net worth sunk as low as $105,003 in 2009 and has gone as high as $460,506 in 2012.

Our figures above show a rise of $87,503 in Bernie Sanders’ net worth between May and August of 2015. However, only part of that rise comes from an actual change in Bernie Sanders’ net worth. Most of the change comes from amendments to disclosure forms. In other words, Sanders didn’t suddenly make an extra $87,000.

http://moneynation.com/bernie-sanders-net-worth/

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