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Related: About this forumMy Father's vote was just stolen in Ohio...
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My father had a stroke a few years ago, and he has trouble reading. He votes absentee, so my mother can help him with the ballot. Well, he sent in his ballot a couple weeks ago, and he did EVERYTHING as instructed. Everything was signed, documented, etc. Proper postage and everything.
Yesterday, he got a letter from the Butler County board of elections saying something was not up to snuff with his ballot, and he had to provide one of the following blah blah blah. One of the choices is his drivers license number, which he already included on the absentee ballot. It says he has to deliver it by hand to their office and his deadline is November 16th.
So basically they're only gonna count it as a provisional ballot. What really happened is they opened his ballot, and saw that he voted for Obama, and now they're not going to count it. I don't know who to contact. I'm so pissed I can't see straight.
Samjm
(320 posts)Contact your local Dem office, and find out if there is a voter rights group in your state and contact them.
Also, I would at least TRY to speak to someone at the Board of Elections explaining your situation, and seeing if you can find some way that they will accept his vote.
But DEFINITELY go speak to the local Obama people. They are ALL over this kind of thing.
flpoljunkie
(26,184 posts)Tigress DEM
(7,887 posts)Election fraud or intimidation complaints may also be directed to the Public Integrity Section ( 202-514-1412). Public Integrity Section prosecutors are available to consult and coordinate with the U.S. Attorneys Offices and FBI regarding the handling of election-crime allegations. I'd also contact the local arm of the Dem party.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)And local democratic offices and your representatives. Take photos showing you had the drivers license number on there already.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)I would call that board of election first thing and ask them to explain why they need driver's license when it was already included.
The Doctor.
(17,266 posts)He can ask for it, and prove that it is filled out properly.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)This is horrible. We cannot let things like this stand.
It's not the DL # they wanted....it's that they wanted it delivered BY HAND, so they could prove his identity. That is against the law in OH, isn't it?
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)I agree with the above posters. Raise holy hell. Phone the local media.
They will toss your father's provisional ballot in the trash alongside the thousands of Democratic voter registration forms across Ohio (a 3rd incident has been identified).
Do not surrender.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Election fraud or intimidation complaints may also be directed to the Public Integrity Section ( 202-514-1412). Public Integrity Section prosecutors are available to consult and coordinate with the U.S. Attorneys Offices and FBI regarding the handling of election-crime allegations. I'd also contact the local arm of the Dem party.
Cha
(297,240 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,712 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)County Board of Elections in person, with video camera in someone else's hand. Go to the local press...
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Go to the press, the Obama campaign and them directly....
I've had enough of these goddamn Republicans....I want them all to lose their jobs and off themselves.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)I hope you and your family can get it rectified so that his vote counts. And maybe Alot of you should accompany him to the office, if possible.
Perhaps there are others you can share this story with locally to prevent it from happening to them.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)Call the elections office and speak to the manager. Tell them that your father has voted for years and ask what is the problem? Make them tell you exactly why they did this. Tell them that your father had a stroke and it is not easy for him to come down to the facility but that he is more than capable of voting as he did. He wants his vote to count. He gave his licesne number to them. What is the problem ask again. If they do not have a reasonable answer then ask if this is the voter suppression or voter intimidation you have been hearing about and your father is being taken advantage of because he is elderly. If so you will be calling the local FBI?
Okay I would probably say the last sentence myself but I'm not going to tell you to do that. But if they have no answers I would sure make them think you are taking it to the authorities because there is too much in the news about this sort of thing and you will not allow this to happen to your family....well there I go again. It's best you say what you wish Best wishes.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)NMDemDist2
(49,313 posts)since his stroke I'm sure his signature has changed.
one of the ways to insure absentee ballots are real is to compare the signatures from the ballot envelope to the one from the file.
relax and call them and ask if that's the problem and what you need to do to fix it
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Which is not easy to do for an elderly person who had a stroke.
JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)abelenkpe
I dont tweet - but I would do that to. Either be mad - or be active.
You need to start making calls, sending emails, and writing letters right this minute. It ain't over until you've done everything you can to get that election worker fired.
NMDemDist2
(49,313 posts)you should be able to get a notary to come to him
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)If the board of elections will accept a notary, I'll come and do it free of charge.
I'm a notary, and I live in Hamilton county (probably less than 10 miles from the OP)
The first thing that needs to be done is to find out what the problem is to find out to address it.
NMDemDist2
(49,313 posts)progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)rexcat
(3,622 posts)At this time his ballot is considered provisional. The provisional ballots can be contested up to 10 days post election or counted up to 10 days after the election in the State of Ohio. I am a polling judge in Ohio and when someone votes provisionally in the precinct I am working we tell them they should contact the BOE within 10 days to confirm their ballot will be counted.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)David Shuster ?@DavidShuster
elect problems - long lines - misinformation - voter intimidation etc, photograph/tweet and use hashtag #EP with state abbreviation ie #EPVA
skeewee08
(1,983 posts)TalkingDog
(9,001 posts)David Shuster @DavidShuster
elect problems - long lines - misinformation - voter intimidation etc, photograph/tweet and use hashtag #EP with state abbreviation ie #EPVA
Please spread this to your friends. If you have any problems voting or your friends do, have them tweet the problem with the hashtag #EP for "Election Problems". So if you are voting in Virginia and have an issue your hashtag would be #EPVA and then describe the problem in the remaining characters. SPREAD THE HASHTAG!
______________________________________________________________
If you don't have a twitter account, I'll post it for you. Let me know.
Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)to your dad to help him out with this mess?
Ninga
(8,275 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(9,120 posts)Dj13Francis
(395 posts)We are being set up. Remember Katherine Harris? Remember Ken Blackwell? While the personnel have changed since, the idealogues of the inconcievably corrupt are still in power in both of these states. Voter purges and the media's inevitable narrative about low turnout are smokescreens to distract from the fact that votes are counted by machines whose source code are legally-protected propriatary information of companies owned and operated by the corporate arm of the Republican party, and whose results are guaranteed to declare exactly the winner They desire.
outsideworld
(601 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,292 posts)his doctor has notified the DMV and his license has been revoked for medical reasons? That can happen here in California. Hope you get this worked out. Lots of good advice in this thread.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)alfredo
(60,072 posts)Have asked for an absentee.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)In OH, you don't need to give a reason to vote absentee.
Ms. Toad
(34,072 posts)If there is an error -for example the wrong drivers license number (there are 2 on each Ohio license & people get it wrong all the time) or a a digit which is illegible or miscopied - the new directive requires it to be corrected in person. The exception is for individuals with a disability or who are overseas military.
This sounds evil - and it is - but the BOE is following the new directive from Husted.
mzmolly
(50,992 posts)though.
Mr.Bill
(24,292 posts)But his driver's license number could be showing up as not valid. All just conjecture on my part, of course.
mzmolly
(50,992 posts)Thanks for clarifying.
JackN415
(924 posts)Make them cite the names of those officials involve in rejecting the vote.
tonybgood
(218 posts)is that Butler County is HEAVILY Republican and very corrupt. It doesn't surprise me one iota that they would challenge any absentee ballot. It is also the home district to one John Boehner so going to your representative is a complete waste of time!!! The only way to fix this is to get the story out nationwide and get the press to hound the Butler County Board of Elections. I'm curious as to how many other absentee ballots have been challenged like this and whether the challenges are only to Democratic ballots.
No Vested Interest
(5,166 posts)I realize that Butler Co. is heavily Republican and is Boehner's home territory, (I live in neighboring Hamilton Co. OH) but this should be reported -In Writing- to Boehner's office anyway. Copies of the letter to local papers - Hamilton, Middletown, Cincinnati, Dayton.
This will put Boehner's office on notice and on the spot. They will have to respond.
Likely they'll say it is a county or state matter, which it is.
Notify Husted's office (OH Sec. of State) and your local state reps. Even though they're also Reps, they'll have to respond as well.
The good news is that this occurred 2 1/2 weeks before the election - enough time to publicize and correct.
Good luck.
Tigress DEM
(7,887 posts)CONTACT INFO for:
Voting Rights Watch advised by BKW Post #43.
Although he may be a bit "busy" today, he should be available Monday.
NELSON PIERCE JR. | OHIO
Nelson Pierce Jr. is the pastor of Beloved Community Church, and the lead organizer with The AMOS Project. He is also a doctoral candidate in the Micah program at New York Theological Seminary. Nelson is passionate about exploring the deep connections between faith and public life.
BELOVED COMMUNITY CHURCH INFO:
Office and Mailing Address:
Beloved Community Church
6566 Montgomery Road Suite #214
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Phone Number:
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Email Address:
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Twitter:
@beloved_ch
islandbobbi
(1 post)Excellent point re: John Boehner's district... it certainly would never get resolved if it were up to him. I am voting via absentee ballot this year and holy hell will be raised if it happens to me. Thanks for your post.
mahina
(17,659 posts)Hutzpa
(11,461 posts)and then tell us that elderlies did not turn out for Obama. So basically it is not about outsiders taking over the electorate, but criminals passing as corporation doing the bidding.
Maineman
(854 posts)After exploring simple options and documenting your efforts, arrange to have him transported to the elections board office on a gurney, make sure the media are there with cameras rolling. Many people would prefer not to do something like this, but in case you and he are willing and able, it would help highlight the problems.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)wildeyed
(11,243 posts)I mean the whole point of an elderly person voting absentee is that they are too fragile to go out much. This is total bullshit. I would call the BOE and make a stink. I would also call the Obama campaign and/or local Dem party HQ and ask if they can get involved. They would not be pleased that one of their votes is being jerked away for total bullshit.
sevenseas
(114 posts)Maybe what they are thinking is because he is elderly and saying he has to bring the license in person think that he will not be able to, therefore they can disqualify another Democrat's vote!
Is there any way this can be checked as to how one-sided this is?
This is making me so mad- if the shoe was on their stinky foot, they would be screaming bloody murder!
geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)I always vote in person on e-day - so I can't help with the process.
Best of luck. Hope he gets his vote back.
Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(9,120 posts)PsychGrad
(239 posts)And make it go viral. Reddit can reach a LOT of people, some pretty important people, and if you can get it recognized, they WILL make it go viral. Post it in the Politics forum - it's a pretty pro Obama site and I've seen them do some amazing things over there (finding criminals and such), and I bet they would be ALL over this issue. Good luck - and I hope it gets sorted and your Dad's vote (which he has earned and has every right to!) gets counted!
Duppers
(28,120 posts)Nt
Hosnon
(7,800 posts)If Reddit sinks its teeth into something, you WILL see results.
asjr
(10,479 posts)sevenseas
(114 posts)....and steal....and then have the nerve to look straight into our eyes and talk about humble and honest and Christian they are.
Norbert
(6,040 posts)It is a haven for Republican politicians. One GOP "lawmaker" named Michael Fox (no relation to Michael J thank God) was bold enough to name a divided highway after himself. The highway is no longer named after him and Fox himself is in jail for corruption.
Fight it with everything you have.
Sancho
(9,070 posts)no one is talking about it, but they reject a bunch of mail in ballots. I'm sure they know who is a Democrat.
Botany
(70,506 posts)Get a lawyer and have him send a registered letter to the Butler County BOE
and tell them it it is a legal ballot and it must be counted as such ...... your Dad
is legally registered to vote in the county and as such his vote must be counted.
Get in touch w/ the Ohio Dem party.
Have questions about voting?
Check out our Election Center
or contact the Voter Protection Team at
[email protected]
OR 855-VOTE-199
(855-868-3199)
Tell the Butler County BOE that you will take the letter they sent your dad to the
media and they will have to answer to the press about voter suppression ....
make multiple copies of the letter too.
if that does not help please contact me via p.m..
Response to Splinter Cell (Original post)
BKW This message was self-deleted by its author.
Tigress DEM
(7,887 posts)Although he may be a bit "busy" today, he should be available Monday.
NELSON PIERCE JR. | OHIO
Nelson Pierce Jr. is the pastor of Beloved Community Church, and the lead organizer with The AMOS Project. He is also a doctoral candidate in the Micah program at New York Theological Seminary. Nelson is passionate about exploring the deep connections between faith and public life.
BELOVED COMMUNITY CHURCH INFO:
Office and Mailing Address:
Beloved Community Church
6566 Montgomery Road Suite #214
Cincinnati, OH 45213
Phone Number:
513-413-7208
Email Address:
[email protected]
Twitter:
@beloved_ch
GETPLANING
(846 posts)Really. Fox local is nothing like Fox News Channel. They will run with it.
inamatteroftime
(135 posts)itssimplestupid
(37 posts)If they made it easy for everyone to vote, even poor people, there would be no Republicans and they know it.
http://www.RepublicansAreADisease.com
Republicans Are A Disease
itssimplestupid
(37 posts)Vote Stealing. Just like 2004.
Why was Blackwell never prosecuted anyway?
alfredo
(60,072 posts)years and they destroyed them early.
The code in the voting machines is a trade secret, so gathering evidence would be difficult.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)and work your way up the food chain.
Democratopia
(552 posts)Your father might have lost his vote, but if you get the local media involved, it could make people that weren't going to vote pissed enough to make the effort to vote. You could lose one vote, but gain a hundred.
RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)I bet they'd move heaven and earth to insure he has his vote counted.
Ms. Toad
(34,072 posts)(A change in how absentee ballot ID errors must be corrected.)
Diclotican
(5,095 posts)Splinter Cell
It is sad for your dad - it should not be like that - but then again Republicans can not win fair and square anymore.. They know it - we know not.. everyone know it.
But the big difference from 2000 ot today, is that in 2000 "we" doesn't had any places to look for information - or in many cases to went the anger many had after the voting in 2000... (Even I who is not even an american was kind of What the H*** about it... ) Today "we" have a place to get information, to get advices and get knowledge about how to fight it.. And that give at least me, some hope that the sanity of US will prevail - even after the nut jobs of GWB, and the tea party-Grand Old Party...
Diclotican
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)julian09
(1,435 posts)what were the others?
rexcat
(3,622 posts)you can put your last four numbers of you SS number on the absentee envelope that the ballot goes in. The person will need to go to the BOE with his drivers license and I would recommend a letter from the utility company or some other form of ID that is considered valid in Ohio for voting.
Ms. Toad
(34,072 posts)It has to be delivered in person (with the exception of overseas military or individuals who are disabled).
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)Nope, its tied with you to all your financial, taxes, your mortgages, bank loans, school education.....how you vote and party affiliation??
Wow....they managed to turn it into what it never was supposed to be and they truly have ALL data on you....
antiquie
(4,299 posts)From Rock the Vote faq:
3. Why is my Social Security number or state ID required?
Under the Help America Vote Act (HAVA), federal law now requires registrants to provide an identification number. The requirements for this information vary from state to state. Detailed state instructions for the ID field are provided during the online voter registration application process. If you have any questions about your state's requirements, please contact your Secretary of State.
Hubert Flottz
(37,726 posts)People who tamper with our votes belong in prison.
Gladys P
(1 post)I agree it should be a felony to steal, intercept or change someone's vote in any way. I believe they are counting on people giving up or not bothering with their vote if it has been tampered with or stolen. Also there isn't a lot of time but we must in good faith help those with vote problems to be heard! Romney has been accused of being underhanded in business what bigger business is there than the USA?
Ms. Toad
(34,072 posts)If there is an error on the voter identification ballot, it will not be counted not even provisionally unless the voter comes in, in person, to correct the error (or falls into the exception below). There are two different numbers on your drivers license - it is extremely easy to get one wrong.
If you are voting absentee by paper ballot, be absolutely certain that you have everything correct on your ballot
The exceptions are military currently overseas, or individuals are disabled. First - if he can get to the board of elections ahead of the election, have him go there to correct it. If he does that before the election, his ballot will be counted as a regular absentee ballot. (if you do that and it they tell you it will still only be counted provisionally, please PM me and I will use my observer connections to make a report - also if they have opened the ID envelope please PM me so I can make a report). If your father qualifies as disabled, the county must send someone to him to correct it.
Organizing for America is tracking "error" rates on ballots returned, and will be investigating places with higher than average (and perhaps higher than last year - I don't know how much information they have about last year, when corrections were permitted by paper - but they are aware of this new problem in Ohio)
As long as I'm on a roll - please make sure that if you are in Ohio and returned the form that Husted sent you that you vote using the ballot you will receive. Any other vote will be provisional. Many people did not realize the form was for an absentee ballot, and sent it in because they thought it was a form of caging. Once you request an absentee ballot (accidental or not), that is the ONLY non-provisional way to vote.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)His father had a stroke-does the father qualify? Or does he need to be officially disabled? Demanding they send someone over to help seems like a good option to me.
Since its sounds like the father is bedridden he is not likely to be able to get there in person.
Ms. Toad
(34,072 posts)Voters with Disabilities Regardless of whether the voter requested assistance in casting the absentee ballot, if a voter requests assistance to supplement the voters identification envelope, the board of elections must send board employees, not of the same political party, to the voter to provide assistance.
If I was that voter, I would make them come to me - and when they get there, check to make sure they sent two of different parties.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Call the board of elections on Monday and demand they send people over to help with the correcting whatever it is they say is wrong!
JamesL2012
(18 posts)Those pukes are so bad and a bunch of liars.
Make sure you fight this to the end get those people fired.
barbtries
(28,795 posts)i was just poll monitoring today in NC for Common Cause. i think the number is the same for all over the country:
888 OUR VOTE
if it isn't, they'll probably be able to point you in the right direction. or contact the country democrats.
don't just be pissed, do something. your father's vote does not have to stay stolen. please keep us updated, thanks.
Me_Bushwacker
(1 post)Report Voting Suppression activity for OH @ 1-866-OUR-VOTE, NC is 855-868-3171 Immediately, get details & contact info
DebbieInOhio
(1 post)I would go to the news outlets, the Ohio Secretary of State and Ohio Attorney General, and the US Department of Justice. I would also go to my Senator and Congressman, local newspapers and Rev. Al Sharpton. We are NOT going to take this voter suppression lying down. Fight it. Contact everyone you can think of.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)so there is not going to be help there.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)I'm assuming you've contacted them.
malaise
(269,004 posts)righ tfuggin' now!
kickysnana
(3,908 posts)telling his mother that she was going to have to go appear in person in order to be able to vote this year. She was in a wheelchair and on oxygen. I think he had just called someone about mail she had received.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)I believe it is because of the work of DUers... See the DU link in the story:
Miami County, Ohio Election Official Resigns Under Weird Circumstances
http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/miami-county-ohio-election-official-resigns
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014274111
FXBGr
(1 post)Contact the Brennan Center at [email protected]. They litigate voting rights cases, and your father's case may be one they could help with. Information: http://www.brennancenter.org/content/election2012 and http://www.brennancenter.org/content/section/category/voting_rights_elections/.
I am not sure if the Alliance For Justice does litigation or just studies and reports http://www.afj.org/.
The ACLU is another important resource. http://www.aclu.org/voting-rights You should contact your local ACLU affiliate: http://www.aclu.org/affiliates
DFW
(54,384 posts)at least to: the US Department of Justice, Washington, DC and the Federal Election Commission. To Obama's campaign HQ and the White House directly as well. A few blogs, too (HuffPo, TPM).
Let DoJ and the FEC know you have sent copies to the press as well.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Ohio Highlander
(4 posts)I hate to say it, but Husted or whatever his name is, got early voting materials to everyone in our neck of the woods...it's gonna be hard to make anything stick this cycle, the ohio gop is got a great pr machine...it also might be hard to argue for someone who's had a stroke...people hear that word, and that someone can't read too well, and they think, "another idiot dem"...that's what's gonna happen
j3161usa
(44 posts)DO NOT CALL "TRUE THE VOTE". Do this NOW----Take your father down to the proper office and "GIVE" them your father's ballot. THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN GET MITT ROMNEY ELECTED IS BY CHEATING!!!!!! ONCE ELECTED, THEY WILL PRETEND HE WON LEGITIMATELY! They will call US sore losers!!
Fla Dem
(23,670 posts)I did not think they opened "mail in ballots" until election day, after the polls closed? Is this the way all states handle mail in ballots...opening them and recording them as they are received? If so I will never do a mail in ballot. There is so much opportunity for fraud. If they had not notified your father, he/you would never had known there was a problem. How many mail in ballots are just destroyed? Finally, it would seem as if you give up you right to a secret ballot if you use the mail in ballot.
riqster
(13,986 posts)And yes, Absentee ballots clearly show who you're voting for. In a Red county, this scenario is not implausible.
midnight
(26,624 posts)slackmaster
(60,567 posts)Other than that, CSB.
Don C. Nuttin
(84 posts)Taking a day or so to talk to folks about this and explore the idea of asking a federal court to require that your father's vote be counted would be a better choice that having a stroke and dying yourself. This is an outrage. I voted a couple of days ago at a county election office in Kansas, an office directly administered by Kris Kobach. I produced my current, valid driver's license. The clerk behind the counter squinted at it and muttered something about my having shaved the close-cropped beard I wore when the photo was taken. I filled out my address (including my apartment number) in the poll book. The clerk slyly asked what my apartment number was. Two Young Republican brown-shirts stood menacingly behind the clerk with nothing to do, except look menacing. I almost said to the Clerk "take this one more step, and I will go right straight to the United States Courthouse, where I practice regularly." But the Clerk did not take it one more step, and I voted. My wife is totally and permanently disabled. I had her in tow, and she voted too. If a Clerk had given her touble I would not have been measured enough to go to the Courthouse. I would have found myself in jail. I hope I do not hear from Mr. Kobach that we need to return to the Election Office. Like -- I suspect-- you, the most constructive thing I could do is some ministerial, time-wasting make-work thing to get our votes counted, the next most constructive thing would be to go to federal court and try to get a federal judge to enjoin this onerous bullshit, or I could stroke out and die or go all Second Amendment on them. I can't think of any more choices. I pray that you try to find something constructive to do.
EC
(12,287 posts)Voter protection line.
http://www.866ourvote.org/
Do it now, they are on full alert, especially in Ohio and Florida.
MrsBrady
(4,187 posts)they will help you.
keep us updated.
riqster
(13,986 posts)If you have a Power of Attorney for him, you can go in on his behalf.
Splinter Cell
(703 posts)UPDATE: I took my dad to the Butler County board of elections and raised hell. The issue was that his signature was slightly different from his last one (he has trouble writing), but we managed to prove it was him and they accepted the explanation. HIS BALLOT HAS BEEN CAST AND WILL BE COUNTED! Thanks to everyone for the support and advise! GOBAMA
writes3000
(4,734 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)That's why I don't even want to vote absentee.
His signature was different? Are they for real?
I am glad it was counted, but the whole point of voting absentee is that you don't have to do it in person.
And yet they made your father to come in, in person.
Tennessee Gal
(6,160 posts)spiderpig
(10,419 posts)Paper ballot. Put it in the privacy envelope. Brought it out to the staff's table, where an old guy took the ballot out and LOOKED AT IT! (Hey, I'm a product of the 60s and didn't trust anyone). I yelled "THAT MAN'S LOOKING AT MY BALLOT!!!" I was ballistic. This idiot said "I just wanted to make sure you voted."
They are so damned corrupt and always have been.
bigregg4838
(92 posts)Hand deliver it to their office by November 16th... My ass! That has got to be the most outrageous thing I have heard. For those who think that your ONE vote means nothing, look to what degree THEY are willing to go to sabotage One vote. Not up to snuff MY big, fat, liberal ASS!! Count that man's vote, OHIO. #Quitplayin
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