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Sanders sweep! All three states by huge margins, Hillary did not take a single county! (Original Post) morningfog Mar 2016 OP
Very impressive!! Nice to seee Real Democrats still exist in this world! quantumjunkie Mar 2016 #1
The voters in Alaska, Hawaii and Washing are very smart people Impedimentus Mar 2016 #20
Yes, and those three states could not be more different from each other...... virtualobserver Mar 2016 #2
I think the theory is that if she can buy enough super-delegates, the pledged one's won't matter Dragonfli Mar 2016 #5
OUCH and unfortunately - probably - true. eom Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #14
doesn't that result in a repeat of 1968? would voters really let this happen? it would be the amborin Mar 2016 #21
I agree, the party, under the leadership of the Clinton type ruthless politicians Dragonfli Mar 2016 #22
a while back there were posts re: the lobbyists who are paid supers; that info needs repeating amborin Mar 2016 #25
They really do just want to force her in. senz Mar 2016 #29
DEFINED AS FASCISM! CorporatistNation Mar 2016 #30
K & R Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #3
Actually, in the last 5 caucus states, Segami Mar 2016 #4
After Iowa, the Bernie team got wise to possible caucus shenanigans Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #8
It's a rude awakening for a caring soul like Bernie Segami Mar 2016 #13
I hear that lawsuit against the DNC is still going on... eom Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #15
Yes, Camp Sanders excels in the "berate-someone-to-vote-for-you" open caucus system Tarc Mar 2016 #6
hmmmm HERVEPA Mar 2016 #7
"Those caucus states don't count" marions ghost Mar 2016 #10
Poor widdle hill shills in caucuses can't hold their own. morningfog Mar 2016 #11
It's tough to "hold your own" with your fingers in your ears Lorien Mar 2016 #37
Another whiny HRC fan who is clueless. thanks for exposing yourself! nt Logical Mar 2016 #17
I am sure those that populate those States will be pleased ro learn their's are not (real) States Dragonfli Mar 2016 #31
We've experienced all the bullying we need from HillsBros right here. senz Mar 2016 #32
Thats not really how these caucuses have worked. You vote, argue, then vote again MadBadger Mar 2016 #33
Ah, so that's what you call "Talking about THE ISSUES!" We don't need to rely on election Lorien Mar 2016 #36
My caucus was very civil, unlike this forum. killbotfactory Mar 2016 #38
So was mine suffragette Mar 2016 #41
Yeah, like the ones with no paper trail, that can be stolen with black box voting? Those primaries? ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #43
yea electronic vote counting seems to be her firewall questionseverything Mar 2016 #44
THANK YOU AK< WA < HI marions ghost Mar 2016 #9
Wow! ❤️ That's a resounding, "oh, hell no!" to HRC Waiting For Everyman Mar 2016 #12
What does this bode for California, especially when the polls have been shown - YET AGAIN - tilted? Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #16
Hard to say democrattotheend Mar 2016 #23
People need to know that Clinton is NOT Obama redux senz Mar 2016 #34
All for that plan. Nothing wrong with a generous serving of truth. eom Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #35
CA was on Super Tuesday in 2008. jeff47 Mar 2016 #40
K&R amborin Mar 2016 #18
woohoo..a thing of beauty. K&R Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #19
Bern is the Word! me b zola Mar 2016 #24
He took every single county in all 3 states yesterday!!! ljm2002 Mar 2016 #26
35 bucks to Bernie this morning berningman Mar 2016 #27
The American people are waking up from their MSM delusion senz Mar 2016 #28
K & R AzDar Mar 2016 #39
Those of us in those three states knew Bernie would do well, but the fact that Hillary didn't liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #42
 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
2. Yes, and those three states could not be more different from each other......
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 08:58 AM
Mar 2016

Why is Bernie able to completely blow out Hillary in three such different states?

Why can't she compete at all in those states?

Maybe a candidate needs something more than fundraisers with the one percent.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
5. I think the theory is that if she can buy enough super-delegates, the pledged one's won't matter
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 09:14 AM
Mar 2016

Since hundreds have declared already that they will vote for her, even if the States they represent, vote for Bernie Sanders (as Dr Dean has already admitted is the plan), this along with voter suppression and party affiliate switching without the voter's knowledge in closed primaries, will assure she can win the primary without question.

What she fails to consider is that, these tactics plus an already unenthusiastic voting base will depress her vote so much more and harm the party itself so much that the Pyrrhic Primary win will help her lose a General Election, she would likely have lost anyway.

amborin

(16,631 posts)
21. doesn't that result in a repeat of 1968? would voters really let this happen? it would be the
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 11:07 AM
Mar 2016

end of the Democratic party

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
22. I agree, the party, under the leadership of the Clinton type ruthless politicians
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 11:32 AM
Mar 2016

Only concerned about large money donations and their personal wealth, ethics and the very law be damned; have already shrunk the part to 30% of the population, after this primary (that I am certain now they WILL steal). It would destroy the party.

Not to mention handing the GE to the Republicans.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
29. They really do just want to force her in.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 12:09 PM
Mar 2016

No consideration whatsoever for the process of democracy, no respect for the American people.

Just want to force it through on technicalities, "irregularities," string pulling, rule bending.

Artificial and grotesque.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
4. Actually, in the last 5 caucus states,
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 09:02 AM
Mar 2016

Hillary only won one single county by 1 vote.

Lewis County

1 of 1 precinct reporting

Vote:

Hillary - 20 - - - 50.0%

Bernie - 19 - - - 47.5%


By 1 person....

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
8. After Iowa, the Bernie team got wise to possible caucus shenanigans
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 09:32 AM
Mar 2016

and made sure to keep a good record of them.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
13. It's a rude awakening for a caring soul like Bernie
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:36 AM
Mar 2016

to be exposed to the grifting ways of the Clinton Road Show. The full extent of team Clinton's voter shenanigans will never make it to sunlight. Another big state loss for Hillary and their whole campaign will begin to shudder.




Tarc

(10,476 posts)
6. Yes, Camp Sanders excels in the "berate-someone-to-vote-for-you" open caucus system
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 09:20 AM
Mar 2016

We get that, but we're turning to some real states with real primary systems shortly.


Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
31. I am sure those that populate those States will be pleased ro learn their's are not (real) States
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 12:27 PM
Mar 2016

Have you altered your flag accordingly to remove the appropriate stars?

I suppose that you also feel that Hawaiian natives are not "real" people either, do you by chance attend many Trump rallies?

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
32. We've experienced all the bullying we need from HillsBros right here.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 12:28 PM
Mar 2016

Hill's only hope is continued election "irregularities" and pulling strings.

No wonder polls show universal distrust of that candidate.

MadBadger

(24,089 posts)
33. Thats not really how these caucuses have worked. You vote, argue, then vote again
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 12:31 PM
Mar 2016

And for the most part, nobody changes their vote.

And I'm a Hillary supporter.

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
36. Ah, so that's what you call "Talking about THE ISSUES!" We don't need to rely on election
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 01:58 PM
Mar 2016

fraud and theft, as team HRC does.

killbotfactory

(13,566 posts)
38. My caucus was very civil, unlike this forum.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 02:04 PM
Mar 2016

Everyone who spoke in favor of either candidate was applauded.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
41. So was mine
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 03:04 PM
Mar 2016

While I was waiting for the bus, a neighbor came by walking her dog and we talked about the caucus and bus routes. Let her know easiest way to transfer and get to the caucus. She is a Hillary supporter and I am for Bernie.

There was a huge line and people talked while waiting. I noticed quite a few couples were split in support. Neighbors were campaigning for their candidates with each other, but it done in a neighborly way. And this is in Seattle, so an urban location where we don't know all our neighbors.
Once inside and seated in our precincts, district volunteers reminded us to be respectful of each others views and that we were all there working together to win against the Republicans. People cheered.

My precinct had extra large attendance so we were moved to a hallway. Our precinct leader volunteer was a no-show, so a district leader asked for volunteers and a vote for them. He stressed it would be best to have 2 leaders (one Sanders supporter and one Clinton supporter) and the same for the tally volunteers. We voted on these and they led well and tallied accurately. While they read their packets of info, I went to the front and a woman wearing a Hillary sticker helped me find coffee (I had a Bernie sticker on, volunteers from both had been offering these while we we in line). I got some for me and my neighbor, since we both had been talking about wanting more coffee - hey, Seattle

We only had a few uncommitted.
People were asked if they wanted to speak and some did. They were passionate, well-informed, and made their points clearly. There was also question time allotted, all very fairly and equitable done. People could change at this point if they wanted to. There wasn't much change, only the uncommitted who I think went from 3 uncommitted to 2-1 for Hillary.

We then split into respective groups, with a much larger one for Bernie, and chose delegates and alternates. Again, people volunteered for this and were each given time to speak and we then voted for our choices. Dates they would need to participate in future were noted and the importance of attending the next stage to represent us was stressed (again a good sign of people being informed and realizing the importance of the process).

Then onto platform issues and people could stay to participate or leave. It was a beautiful, sunny day.

 

ThePhilosopher04

(1,732 posts)
43. Yeah, like the ones with no paper trail, that can be stolen with black box voting? Those primaries?
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 03:17 PM
Mar 2016

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
12. Wow! ❤️ That's a resounding, "oh, hell no!" to HRC
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 09:47 AM
Mar 2016

from the far-western Dems.

Can I just say,

And THANK YOU!!! Washington, Alaska & Hawaii


That's as clean as a sweep can get. Bernie and you guys knocked a grand slam outta the park! THAT, was elegant! Let's hope Oregon and California do the same (and the states until then).

democrattotheend

(11,607 posts)
23. Hard to say
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 11:37 AM
Mar 2016

California is a primary, not a caucus, so it's a little different. But it is definitely his best chance that day. On the other hand, I read an article recently that was a bit discouraging. It said that Obama had support from a lot of the white liberals Bernie is winning, but also the black vote, and still could not win California. Bernie is obviously winning many white voters who did not vote for Obama, but Obama probably lost fewer white voters due to race in California than in most other states.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
34. People need to know that Clinton is NOT Obama redux
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 12:34 PM
Mar 2016

and they also need to know that neither Obama nor Warren are Clinton fans. They both know how dirty she campaigns -- he experienced it, she witnessed it -- and they both know how rightwing her politics are.

People need to know this and we need to help them know it.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
40. CA was on Super Tuesday in 2008.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 03:04 PM
Mar 2016

Obama still had to overcome the "nobody will vote for a black man with a funny name" charge. That did not really fade away until little later in the primary.

Also, the "black vote" in CA is not that large - about 6.5% of the state is African American. Asian Americans are more than double that (14.4%), with Latinos at 38.6%.

You could win all of the "white" (38.5%) and "black" vote and still lose the state.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
26. He took every single county in all 3 states yesterday!!!
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 11:47 AM
Mar 2016

Woo hoo, now THAT is worth CROWING about!!!!!

BIG K&R!!

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
28. The American people are waking up from their MSM delusion
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 11:56 AM
Mar 2016

and not a minute too soon.

Lord I hope we can carry this through to the GE and to a return of democracy and livability in our country.

Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
42. Those of us in those three states knew Bernie would do well, but the fact that Hillary didn't
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 03:14 PM
Mar 2016

get one single county surprised even us. That is pretty cool.

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