2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders LEADS Hillary Clinton, TROUNCES Trump in New Poll
PRESS RELEASE
Sanders Leads Clinton, Trounces Trump in New Poll
MARCH 24TH, 2016
SPOKANE, Wash. Buoyed by a new national poll putting him ahead of Hillary Clinton and outpacing Republican White House hopefuls by big margins, Bernie Sanders returned here for a rally on Thursday two days ahead of contests in Washington, Alaska and Hawaii.
The new Bloomberg Politics national poll found that Sanders is now the first choice of 49 percent of those who already have voted or plan to vote in this years Democratic contests. The former secretary of state was the choice of 48 percent.
Looking ahead to Novembers general election, Sanders was 24 points ahead of Republican front-runner Donald Trump. He outpolled U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas by 12 points and held a four-point lead over Ohio Gov. John Kasich. Clinton, in sharp contrast, lost to Kasich by four points and held much narrower leads than Sanders over Cruz and Trump.
The Bloomberg survey was only the latest in a string of polls putting Sanders way ahead of Trump and doing consistently better than Clinton against Trump and the other Republicans in a general election. According to RealClearPolitics, Sanders led Trump on average by 17.5 percentage points in national surveys in March. The U.S. senator from Vermont beat the real estate tycoon by 20 points in a CNN/ORC poll, 18 points in a poll for NBC News and The Wall Street Journal, 14 points in Fox News and Quinnipiac University polls and 15 points in a survey for CBS News and The New York Times.
Assessing the Democratic Party nomination contest, pollster J. Ann Selzer said Sanders is the one Democrats see as looking out for them meaning he will build a stronger middle class at the expense of Wall Street. They trust him to do it. In the end, Hillary Clinton has a trust problem. The poll, for example, found Democratic primary voters by a better than 2-to-1 ratio said Sanders would fight harder than Clinton for the middle class and do the most to rein in the power of Wall Street. More than 60 percent said Sanders cares most about people like them and regard him as the most honest and trustworthy candidate. Only a quarter said that of Clinton.
The new poll came two days after Sanders won 21 more delegates than Clinton in three Western states on Tuesday.
In Idaho on Thursday, Sanders picked up endorsements from Democratic Party Chairman Bert Marley and Pete Gertonson, a national DNC committeeman. Pent up frustrations of a red state exploded Idaho Caucuses to historic numbers last Tuesday with 78 percent for Bernie Sanders, Gertonson said. Im proud to be an Idaho Democrat representing the peoples choice. The new backing came in addition to 17 elected delegates Sanders picked up in Idaho.
https://berniesanders.com/press-release/sanders-leads-clinton-trounces-trump-new-poll/
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Great to see you're on the job with that canned response.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)They know Hillary is walking on thin ice.
still_one
(92,317 posts)Lets see, latest Pennsylvania poll, Hillary 53, Bernie 28.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/pa/pennsylvania_democratic_presidential_primary-4249.html
Latest California poll, Hillary 48, Bernie 41.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ca/california_democratic_presidential_primary-5321.html
Latest Wisconsin poll, Hillary 50, Bernie 44.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/wi/wisconsin_democratic_presidential_primary-3764.html
Presidential elections are determined by states, not by national polls, and for that reason national polls are flawed. However, since you are only pushing one particularly national poll, let me present the other national polls released in the same time frame to be fair
Latest National Polls:
Bloomberg:
Hillary 48, Bernie 49
Fox:
Hillary 55, Bernie 42
Quinnipiac:
Hillary 50, Bernie 38
Monmouth:
Hillary 55, Bernie 37
CBS News/NY Times:
Hillary 50, Bernie 45
CNN/ORC:
Hillary 55, Bernie 44
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Many of the delegates have already been allocated and Hillary is currently leading in states like NY, PA and CA.
With proportional allocation, it's safe to say the race is pretty much over.
It's time to turn to defeating the GOP in the general election.
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)This is embarassing for her to say the least.
6chars
(3,967 posts)is that not enough have even been elected so it was impossible.
CalvinballPro
(1,019 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,127 posts)Sanders' people should know that unless he has a bunch of rank amateurs running his campaign.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)He's losing both in delegates and popular vote.
Segami
(14,923 posts)the electorate hates Hillary and a MAJORITY simply don't TRUST or BELIEVE whatever comes out of her mouth.
What a stellar candidate you are supporting to represent ALL of the people.
continue on....
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Why is she leading Bernie by 2.5 million votes?
What does that say about Bernie?
vkkv
(3,384 posts)MAJOR PRESS and TeeVEE.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)The only reason this person has any notoriety at all.
Thanks for asking!
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)know you're fucked.
Segami
(14,923 posts)CalvinballPro
(1,019 posts)giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)I must say this poster is much better at not trying to bury the true nature of their bias they blast it out there for all to see.
Segami
(14,923 posts)Nice try but keep your day job because comedy is not your bag........( Oh....this little guy is for me)
but, like always........carry on...
Stallion
(6,476 posts)Sanders is behind by 3% points in states that have yet to vote.
Stallion
(6,476 posts)Thanks you saved me some time
vkkv
(3,384 posts)GreydeeThos
(958 posts)Polls don't win; delegates do.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)RCP Average 3/16 - 3/22 -- -- 51.5 42.5 Clinton +9.0
Bloomberg 3/19 - 3/22 311 LV 5.6 48 49 Sanders +1
FOX News 3/20 - 3/22 410 LV 5.0 55 42 Clinton +13
Quinnipiac 3/16 - 3/21 635 RV 3.9 50 38 Clinton +12
Monmouth 3/17 - 3/20 391 RV 5.0 55 37 Clinton +18
CBS News/NY Times 3/17 - 3/20 388 LV 6.0 50 45 Clinton +5
CNN/ORC 3/17 - 3/20 397 RV 5.0 51 44 Clinton +7
So the Sanders camp cherry-picks the sole poll that has Sanders up, and it is only +1 which as any Intro to Statistics class will tell you, is like likely a tie, and looky here;
The national poll of 1,000 adults was conducted March 19-22 by Selzer & Co. of West Des Moines, Iowa. The overall sample has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points, while the subgroup of 311 Democratic primary voters has a margin of error of plus or minus 5.6 percentage points. The subgroup of 815 likely general-election voters has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.4 percentage points.
Not only does the title debunk their claim, but also the numbers.
Math; it has a well-known Hillary bias.