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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 04:23 PM Mar 2016

Bernie Sanders LEADS Hillary Clinton, TROUNCES Trump in New Poll




PRESS RELEASE


Sanders Leads Clinton, Trounces Trump in New Poll



MARCH 24TH, 2016



SPOKANE, Wash. – Buoyed by a new national poll putting him ahead of Hillary Clinton and outpacing Republican White House hopefuls by big margins, Bernie Sanders returned here for a rally on Thursday two days ahead of contests in Washington, Alaska and Hawaii.

The new Bloomberg Politics national poll found that Sanders is now the first choice of 49 percent of those who already have voted or plan to vote in this year’s Democratic contests. The former secretary of state was the choice of 48 percent.

Looking ahead to November’s general election, Sanders was 24 points ahead of Republican front-runner Donald Trump. He outpolled U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas by 12 points and held a four-point lead over Ohio Gov. John Kasich. Clinton, in sharp contrast, lost to Kasich by four points and held much narrower leads than Sanders over Cruz and Trump.

The Bloomberg survey was only the latest in a string of polls putting Sanders way ahead of Trump and doing consistently better than Clinton against Trump and the other Republicans in a general election. According to RealClearPolitics, Sanders led Trump on average by 17.5 percentage points in national surveys in March. The U.S. senator from Vermont beat the real estate tycoon by 20 points in a CNN/ORC poll, 18 points in a poll for NBC News and The Wall Street Journal, 14 points in Fox News and Quinnipiac University polls and 15 points in a survey for CBS News and The New York Times.

Assessing the Democratic Party nomination contest, pollster J. Ann Selzer said Sanders “is the one Democrats see as looking out for them – meaning he will build a stronger middle class at the expense of Wall Street. They trust him to do it. In the end, Hillary Clinton has a trust problem.” The poll, for example, found Democratic primary voters by a better than 2-to-1 ratio said Sanders would fight harder than Clinton for the middle class and do the most to rein in the power of Wall Street. More than 60 percent said Sanders cares most about people like them and regard him as the most honest and trustworthy candidate. Only a quarter said that of Clinton.

The new poll came two days after Sanders won 21 more delegates than Clinton in three Western states on Tuesday.

In Idaho on Thursday, Sanders picked up endorsements from Democratic Party Chairman Bert Marley and Pete Gertonson, a national DNC committeeman. “Pent up frustrations of a red state exploded Idaho Caucuses to historic numbers last Tuesday with 78 percent for Bernie Sanders,” Gertonson said. “I’m proud to be an Idaho Democrat representing the people’s choice.” The new backing came in addition to 17 elected delegates Sanders picked up in Idaho.





https://berniesanders.com/press-release/sanders-leads-clinton-trounces-trump-new-poll/



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Bernie Sanders LEADS Hillary Clinton, TROUNCES Trump in New Poll (Original Post) Segami Mar 2016 OP
Low number of people polled and Hillary is 2.5 million votes ahead. nt onehandle Mar 2016 #1
LOL! Segami Mar 2016 #2
It's ALL they have Politicalboi Mar 2016 #14
Nice cherry picking of the national polls. Here is the full set of national polls, same time frame still_one Mar 2016 #3
Too little too late for Bernie Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #4
Why can't Hillary seal the deal? AZ Progressive Mar 2016 #5
part of the reason she doesn't have enough delegates yet 6chars Mar 2016 #8
311 past or likely participants in Democratic nominating contests. Margin of error +/-5.6 pts CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #6
1% is a statistic tie Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #7
One problem. Bernie can't even win the nomination. redstateblues Mar 2016 #9
In case you haven't been paying attention,... Segami Mar 2016 #11
So if Hillary is so hated and Bernie is so loved, Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #15
Hillary being hated and the lack of awareness of Bernie speaks voluimes about the vkkv Mar 2016 #19
Bill Clinton tabasco Mar 2016 #21
When your only "reliable" source is the campaign itself you giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #10
Whaaah.....oh, of course nothing! Segami Mar 2016 #12
There's also much more to the article than the blurb posted here. CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #13
Lol, there may be but that wasn't the point of this OP was it. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #17
'Lol giggle fail'...... Segami Mar 2016 #20
How is that a Fail-he's using the exact same data as the Poll Sanders Supporters are Citing Stallion Mar 2016 #24
For all Practical Purposes Clinton Leads in This Poll Too +3 Stallion Mar 2016 #16
Voters are FINALLY waking up! eom vkkv Mar 2016 #18
Bernie Sanders is BEHIND Hillary Clinton by 303 delegates GreydeeThos Mar 2016 #22
Once again, Sanders supporters do not fully delve into the math Tarc Mar 2016 #23

still_one

(92,317 posts)
3. Nice cherry picking of the national polls. Here is the full set of national polls, same time frame
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 04:25 PM
Mar 2016

Lets see, latest Pennsylvania poll, Hillary 53, Bernie 28.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/pa/pennsylvania_democratic_presidential_primary-4249.html

Latest California poll, Hillary 48, Bernie 41.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ca/california_democratic_presidential_primary-5321.html

Latest Wisconsin poll, Hillary 50, Bernie 44.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/wi/wisconsin_democratic_presidential_primary-3764.html

Presidential elections are determined by states, not by national polls, and for that reason national polls are flawed. However, since you are only pushing one particularly national poll, let me present the other national polls released in the same time frame to be fair

Latest National Polls:

Bloomberg:
Hillary 48, Bernie 49

Fox:
Hillary 55, Bernie 42

Quinnipiac:
Hillary 50, Bernie 38

Monmouth:
Hillary 55, Bernie 37

CBS News/NY Times:
Hillary 50, Bernie 45

CNN/ORC:
Hillary 55, Bernie 44


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
4. Too little too late for Bernie
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 04:25 PM
Mar 2016

Many of the delegates have already been allocated and Hillary is currently leading in states like NY, PA and CA.

With proportional allocation, it's safe to say the race is pretty much over.

It's time to turn to defeating the GOP in the general election.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
8. part of the reason she doesn't have enough delegates yet
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 04:28 PM
Mar 2016

is that not enough have even been elected so it was impossible.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,127 posts)
7. 1% is a statistic tie
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 04:27 PM
Mar 2016

Sanders' people should know that unless he has a bunch of rank amateurs running his campaign.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
11. In case you haven't been paying attention,...
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 04:34 PM
Mar 2016

the electorate hates Hillary and a MAJORITY simply don't TRUST or BELIEVE whatever comes out of her mouth.

What a stellar candidate you are supporting to represent ALL of the people.


continue on....

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
15. So if Hillary is so hated and Bernie is so loved,
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 04:44 PM
Mar 2016

Why is she leading Bernie by 2.5 million votes?

What does that say about Bernie?

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
19. Hillary being hated and the lack of awareness of Bernie speaks voluimes about the
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 04:59 PM
Mar 2016

MAJOR PRESS and TeeVEE.

 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
13. There's also much more to the article than the blurb posted here.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 04:38 PM
Mar 2016
The poll found some encouraging signs for Clinton as the Democratic race moves into its second half. She leads Sanders 50 percent to 47 percent among those yet to vote in a Democratic primary or caucus, an indication that her drive toward the Democratic nomination won’t be impeded. She has 1,690 of the 2,383 delegates needed to become the party’s nominee to the 946 that Sanders has amassed, according to Associated Press estimates on Wednesday.
 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
17. Lol, there may be but that wasn't the point of this OP was it.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 04:53 PM
Mar 2016

I must say this poster is much better at not trying to bury the true nature of their bias they blast it out there for all to see.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
20. 'Lol giggle fail'......
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 04:59 PM
Mar 2016

Nice try but keep your day job because comedy is not your bag........( Oh....this little guy is for me)


but, like always........carry on...

Stallion

(6,476 posts)
24. How is that a Fail-he's using the exact same data as the Poll Sanders Supporters are Citing
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 08:16 PM
Mar 2016

Sanders is behind by 3% points in states that have yet to vote.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
23. Once again, Sanders supporters do not fully delve into the math
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 05:58 PM
Mar 2016
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html

RCP Average 3/16 - 3/22 -- -- 51.5 42.5 Clinton +9.0
Bloomberg 3/19 - 3/22 311 LV 5.6 48 49 Sanders +1
FOX News 3/20 - 3/22 410 LV 5.0 55 42 Clinton +13
Quinnipiac 3/16 - 3/21 635 RV 3.9 50 38 Clinton +12
Monmouth 3/17 - 3/20 391 RV 5.0 55 37 Clinton +18
CBS News/NY Times 3/17 - 3/20 388 LV 6.0 50 45 Clinton +5
CNN/ORC 3/17 - 3/20 397 RV 5.0 51 44 Clinton +7


So the Sanders camp cherry-picks the sole poll that has Sanders up, and it is only +1 which as any Intro to Statistics class will tell you, is like likely a tie, and looky here;

Democrats Evenly Split Over Clinton, Sanders in Bloomberg Poll

The national poll of 1,000 adults was conducted March 19-22 by Selzer & Co. of West Des Moines, Iowa. The overall sample has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points, while the subgroup of 311 Democratic primary voters has a margin of error of plus or minus 5.6 percentage points. The subgroup of 815 likely general-election voters has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.4 percentage points.


Not only does the title debunk their claim, but also the numbers.

Math; it has a well-known Hillary bias.
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