2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumLooky looky what my Aunt said on Facebook.. I am offended..
I have noticed many people have placed an incredible amount of importance, feeling and passion for a political party which I feel has become their "god". In these cases the political party has replaced what their passion, feeling and importance should be for God and their faith in Him. For people who say they believe in God and yet say they are voting for a party or person who almost always goes against God's rules in every major decision is a good indicator what REALLY IS more important to that person. God or "the party." So many people are happily brainwashed because their politics have taken the place for their God. What or Who DO YOU HAVE MORE PASSION FOR? In this note I'm not AT ALL saying EITHER PARTY is working for God! But when I vote...I will be looking for the PERSON who says they will be standing by Christian biblical truths rather than any party or person who Openly abandons them and adamantly denies our country's Christian heritage....
CurtEastPoint
(18,644 posts)Jewish, Muslim, Native American, multiple nationalities, races? Why just 'Christian'? And I'm a Christian. STOP FORCING your shit on everyone else!
jkrichter
(46 posts)Mutiny In Heaven
(550 posts)A) Where is her proof of these "truths"?
B) Can she tell you how many tenets of her faith Mitt Romney has violated during his tenure at Bain Capital and mendacious political campaigns?
C) If her answer is "no", then why does she insist on pretending to be a Christian?
We People
(619 posts)She should also be asked for proof that he doesn't, in deed, actually worship money (and the power of it), or, as the Bible calls it, MAMMON...
"No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon." - Matthew 6:24
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammon
no_hypocrisy
(46,104 posts)to defer making their own decisions, delegating their rights to another entity instead of actively participating themselves. That is the road to fascism.
txdemsftw
(461 posts)well, not completely..but you get the point.
get the red out
(13,466 posts)So many people are happily brainwashed by whatever ReThug Preacher GOD they go worship on Sunday that they would vote against healthcare for the elderly, food in the mouths of children, keeping jobs at home, preserving the environment that keeps us alive, and basic compassion simply because they told them that it was "God's will" that they vote with hatred toward Gay people and to try to subvert women's reproductive rights.
In fact, brainwashed IS the Republican Party.
Locrian
(4,522 posts)So I guess she's rejecting the Mormon candidate? In support of 'good christian' bible values vs the book or Mormon?!
kerouac2
(449 posts)since he's the only Christian running...
Curious how she'll reply when you point that out.
Romney has to follow the direction of the prophet... and here's a good article to point her to on what that means:
Are Mormons told to follow their "prophets" no matter what? Yes.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/27/1124602/-Are-Mormons-told-to-follow-their-prophets-no-matter-what-Yes
BenzoDia
(1,010 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)If not you may want to introduce her to them, if only via information on the internet.
Doodler71
(443 posts)She is referring to, because it could be argued that the old testament God is entirely different than the new testament God. And since Jesus, aka Christ, was the impetuous for the new testament then if she refers to the Old testament God... He isn't the Christian God at all. Why?
"But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you shut off the kingdom of heaven from men; for you do not enter yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in." (Matthew 23:13). By prescribing their own doctrines, traditions and creeds, the Pharisees were actually hindering others from the true message, love one another, forgive, cast not a stone when you too are a sinner. They had formulated their own standards of right and wrong.
Much like today, where we are witnessing a casting off of New Testament moral, ethical and doctrinal standards in favor of what fits their political agenda. They often cling to obscure verses in the Old Testament and completely over look or ignore the message that Christ brought with the New Testament. The true Chritian faith is based on the New Message.
Regardless, no one in a free democratic society should be able to impose their religious beliefs on to others or make those beliefs laws that infringe on the rights of others.
GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)RichGirl
(4,119 posts)Your aunt is one of the reasons why athiestism is on the rise. These people make faith and God so unappealing.
mnhtnbb
(31,388 posts)Ask her about the 9th commandment.
Then give her a list of Mitt's lies.
She could start with reading these two articles:
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/10/04/958801/at-last-nights-debate-romney-told-27-myths-in-38-minutes/
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/10/17/1030581/at-last-nights-debate-romney-told-31-myths-in-41-minutes/
Throw in a few of the verses below and then suggest she might want to back off her self-righteous high horse.
Luke 6:37 "Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.
Luke 6:41 "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?
John 8 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."
Romans 2:1 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.
Romans 14:10 You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Doodler71
(443 posts)They created their own version of Christ and believe in that version of a fairy tale.
BlueInPhilly
(870 posts)Please ask your Aunt to promise she'll go by the tenets of "Biblical Christianity" when she votes. Oh, and ask her if the angel Moroni appears anywhere in Mark, Matthew, Luke, John, all the epistles, and the Book of Revelations. That should cover the New Testament.
What? No Moroni anywhere? There you go.
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)is she talking about the
a) love thy neighbor as thyself truth
is she talking about the
b) judge not lest ye be judged truth
is she talking about the
c) Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye truth
is she talking about the
d) If a brother or sister is without clothing and in need of daily food...and yet you do not give them what is necessary for their body, what use is that? truth
bushisanidiot
(8,064 posts)unlike romney, Obama follows the Word that Jesus taught.. to help feed and clothe the poor,
to take people in when they are homeless, to help the downtrodden lift themselves up.
Cultist, Mitt Romney is still trying to fit that camel through the eye of a needle and seems
to believe that he who dies with the most money has a special place in heaven.
Also, I hope your aunt knows, that Mitt Romney does not believe your aunt will be allowed
to live with her family in heaven, because only mormons can do that. This is what Mitt
taught as a missionary and it's how he lives his life. Only mormons are allowed to live with
their families in heaven, so your aunt is out of luck, unless she converts to Mitt's cult.
MatthewStLouis
(904 posts)of Jesus than any organized religion. Democrats actually give a damn about other people. The real evil lies with those who cherry pick the bible, follow false prophets, and suck up to the money changers.
Oh and Yes, I like another suggestion: have your Aunty check out the "Nuns on a Bus". I'd say they are definitely for people over profit.
DemKittyNC
(743 posts)Firebirds01
(576 posts)Mormons and Catholics are two of the most hated and discriminated religious groups in the country. Catholics were forbidden to live in states like Georgia and even Maryland after the protestants became the majority.
The US Army had a couple of nasty shootouts with the mormons.
So if she respects our christian heritage, better vote for the only real Christian (real, according to the religious tradition of this country) and that candidate is Barack Obama.
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)Maybe she should read her Bible more, and listen to some dope preacher less. Passages about the rich vs. the poor are everywhere, and very clear. For instance, Matthew 25:34 - 46.
Rethuglicans are the pharisees of our time.
tarheelsunc
(2,117 posts)Is reducing programs for the poor to pay for more tax cuts for the wealthy "biblical?"