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LiberalArkie

(15,730 posts)
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 05:50 PM Mar 2016

Shameful: Gay rights group endorses Republican Mark Kirk over Democrat Tammy Duckworth

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by one_voice (a host of the 2016 Postmortem forum).



In a move that is as appalling as it is embarrassing, the Human Rights Campaign, which styles itself as the largest LGBT civil rights group in the country, has endorsed Republican Sen. Mark Kirk for re-election. This decision is both pathetic and stupid on two levels.

Most immediately, Kirk's record on gay rights is far weaker than that of his Democratic opponent, Rep. Tammy Duckworth—according to no less an authority than HRC itself. In 2013-14, Kirk earned just a 78 percent score on HRC's report card, and in 2009-10, he managed an atrocious 39 percent. (Kirk has no rating for 2011-12, presumably because he missed many votes while recovering from a stroke.) By contrast, Duckworth, who was first elected to Congress in 2012, notched a perfect 100 percent in 2013-14. In what universe does it make sense for an advocacy group to support the candidate who is unambiguously worse on their key issues?

There's also a much broader problem: If you help Mark Kirk remain in office, you're helping Mitch McConnell cling to his job as majority leader. And if the GOP retains the Senate, do you think for a second they'll allow, say, the Employment Non-Discrimination Act to come up for a vote? Of course they won't. HRC isn't this dumb, but its leaders ure are acting like it.

There's a shameful reason for this rank idiocy, though.


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http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/3/21/1504481/-Shameful-Gay-rights-group-endorses-Republican-Mark-Kirk-over-Democrat-Tammy-Duckworth
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Shameful: Gay rights group endorses Republican Mark Kirk over Democrat Tammy Duckworth (Original Post) LiberalArkie Mar 2016 OP
HRC is at it again... HerbChestnut Mar 2016 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author sufrommich Mar 2016 #19
HRC = Human Rights Campaign, not Clinton. eom. Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2016 #21
Gah! Sorry. I shall now delete. sufrommich Mar 2016 #22
:P n/t HerbChestnut Mar 2016 #25
Prove it.. FarPoint Mar 2016 #31
I wonder what group is going to replace them... Kalidurga Mar 2016 #2
Lost one earlier this month LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #3
If I had been a member I would have been out on that endorsement if not sooner. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #9
They lost a lot of Arkansas supporters when 2 attorneys in Little Rock were fighting LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #12
It's sad they had good goals at one point Kalidurga Mar 2016 #13
Just a big business now I guess. LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #14
Politics over the people NWCorona Mar 2016 #4
I have very limited means but she is one of the few candidates I donated to./nt DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #5
Reminds me of when they endorsed D'Amato. Pissed me off. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #6
It is gay baiting. Aerows Mar 2016 #23
And their premature endorsement of Hillary nt nichomachus Mar 2016 #26
Tell me again why there is no sexism? It is everywhere! nt Jitter65 Mar 2016 #7
Must have something to do with leadership coming from Hope, Arkansas LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #8
Well, I guess the fact they endorsed Hillary over Bernie John Poet Mar 2016 #10
I missed this thread--just posted the same thing in another nt TheDormouse Mar 2016 #34
This is crazy. surrealAmerican Mar 2016 #11
What does this have to do with the primaries? sufrommich Mar 2016 #15
Not a thing Aerows Mar 2016 #20
Kirk also stated xloadiex Mar 2016 #16
The money rigs "civil society" as well as politics. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #17
There are a whole lot of things I could say Aerows Mar 2016 #18
Shame on you, and shame on the group for doing this. Aerows Mar 2016 #24
Makes about as much sense ibegurpard Mar 2016 #27
The cocktail queens spend a lot of time feathering their own nest nichomachus Mar 2016 #28
Like HRC has been exemplary on their recent endorsements... Dynamite Dave Mar 2016 #29
I've donated to the Human Rights Campaign every single month for the last 9 years. Firebrand Gary Mar 2016 #30
Wait, wut? KamaAina Mar 2016 #32
Human Rights Campaign = the Establishment as some of us and our candidate have been telling everyone Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #33
haha. I guess it's ok to criticize Human Rights Campaign now. m-lekktor Mar 2016 #35
To be surprised that they did this is to admit you don't know them. Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #36
exactly. nt m-lekktor Mar 2016 #37
Locking.. one_voice Mar 2016 #38
 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
1. HRC is at it again...
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 05:51 PM
Mar 2016

"Follow the Money"

Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #1)

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
21. HRC = Human Rights Campaign, not Clinton. eom.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 06:22 PM
Mar 2016

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
22. Gah! Sorry. I shall now delete.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 06:23 PM
Mar 2016
 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
25. :P n/t
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 06:45 PM
Mar 2016

FarPoint

(12,466 posts)
31. Prove it..
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 06:52 PM
Mar 2016

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
2. I wonder what group is going to replace them...
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 05:52 PM
Mar 2016

Because this seems like a sure fire way to lose members.

LiberalArkie

(15,730 posts)
3. Lost one earlier this month
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 05:53 PM
Mar 2016

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
9. If I had been a member I would have been out on that endorsement if not sooner.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 05:55 PM
Mar 2016

There are other groups and of course anyone is free to start another organization.

LiberalArkie

(15,730 posts)
12. They lost a lot of Arkansas supporters when 2 attorneys in Little Rock were fighting
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 05:59 PM
Mar 2016

the Same Sex banning law. When they won the battle in Arkansas (Out of their own pocket), then Chad Griffin came in and held a press conference and took credit for it.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
13. It's sad they had good goals at one point
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 06:01 PM
Mar 2016

They were on my short list of organizations to contact for solidarity, but that's over.

LiberalArkie

(15,730 posts)
14. Just a big business now I guess.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 06:05 PM
Mar 2016

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
4. Politics over the people
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 05:53 PM
Mar 2016

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
5. I have very limited means but she is one of the few candidates I donated to./nt
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 05:53 PM
Mar 2016
 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
6. Reminds me of when they endorsed D'Amato. Pissed me off.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 05:54 PM
Mar 2016
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
23. It is gay baiting.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 06:25 PM
Mar 2016

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
26. And their premature endorsement of Hillary nt
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 06:46 PM
Mar 2016
 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
7. Tell me again why there is no sexism? It is everywhere! nt
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 05:54 PM
Mar 2016

LiberalArkie

(15,730 posts)
8. Must have something to do with leadership coming from Hope, Arkansas
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 05:55 PM
Mar 2016
 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
10. Well, I guess the fact they endorsed Hillary over Bernie
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 05:56 PM
Mar 2016

should now be taken with several huge barrels of salt...

(They were probably just trying to protect their "neoconservative cred" in that case)


TheDormouse

(1,168 posts)
34. I missed this thread--just posted the same thing in another nt
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 07:02 PM
Mar 2016

surrealAmerican

(11,365 posts)
11. This is crazy.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 05:57 PM
Mar 2016

Sen. Kirk is a useless piece of GOP. WTF are they thinking?

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
15. What does this have to do with the primaries?
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 06:07 PM
Mar 2016
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
20. Not a thing
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 06:11 PM
Mar 2016

and it is purposeful crap-shooting at people to piss them off.

It succeeded, I'm pissed off, but I won't say exactly what I think about this gay baiting bullshit, because I don't wish to get banned.

xloadiex

(628 posts)
16. Kirk also stated
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 06:07 PM
Mar 2016

He will endorse Trump should he be nominated.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
17. The money rigs "civil society" as well as politics.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 06:07 PM
Mar 2016
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
18. There are a whole lot of things I could say
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 06:09 PM
Mar 2016

in response to this post.

None of them are worthy of polite company.

How dare you.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
24. Shame on you, and shame on the group for doing this.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 06:26 PM
Mar 2016

I'm gay and a solid Democrat.

I respect the HELL out of Tammy Duckworth. I can't even fathom accomplishing as much as she has, can you?

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
27. Makes about as much sense
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 06:47 PM
Mar 2016

As some of the endorsements for the other HRC...

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
28. The cocktail queens spend a lot of time feathering their own nest
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 06:47 PM
Mar 2016

Maybe we can mention this to them at their next $150 garden party.

 

Dynamite Dave

(26 posts)
29. Like HRC has been exemplary on their recent endorsements...
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 06:49 PM
Mar 2016

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
30. I've donated to the Human Rights Campaign every single month for the last 9 years.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 06:51 PM
Mar 2016

That ends today.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
32. Wait, wut?
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 06:53 PM
Mar 2016
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
33. Human Rights Campaign = the Establishment as some of us and our candidate have been telling everyone
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 07:00 PM
Mar 2016

Of course a group of DU Straights Proudly Stands with them
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511030251

But we keep pointing out that they have big issues and do not represent the community interests nor reflect the community's content.
5 Most Disappointing Things We Learned About HRC's 'White Men's Club'

A new internal diversity report reveals the Human Rights Campaign has a sexist work environment where only 'gay, white, male' employees advance into leadership positions.
http://www.advocate.com/human-rights-campaign-hrc/2015/06/04/5-most-disappointing-things-we-learned-about-hrcs-white-mens-cl


Shameful? HRC is shameless, they have endorsed Republicans in the past and many other shameless acts of political exploitation and betrayal.

Let their Moderate Straight friends proudly stand with them and Nancy Reagan and whom ever they wish. I say the 30 preening board members of HRC can go soundly fuck themselves.

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
35. haha. I guess it's ok to criticize Human Rights Campaign now.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 07:03 PM
Mar 2016

They must be low info and have Stockholm Syndrome!

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
36. To be surprised that they did this is to admit you don't know them.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 07:10 PM
Mar 2016

And the Hillary folks are shocked, they have been telling me all about how radical and fully representative of the LGBT community HRC is.

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
37. exactly. nt
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 07:12 PM
Mar 2016

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
38. Locking..
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 07:41 PM
Mar 2016

Doesn't meet SoP for GDP. GDP is for discussions about Democratic presidential primaries and or it's candidates. This is better suited for GD please re-post there. Thanks.

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