2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDon't let anyone intimidate or shame you into not using the words of
Martin Luther King Jr.
If they wish to deny Dr. King's message just because much of it meshes with that of Bernie's this is their problem, not yours.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,368 posts)highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)Martin Luther King
I have looked at Bernie's character, and found it authentic and on the side of working class, middle class, and just plain struggling class Americans of all colors and creeds. From my own personal experience, I honestly cannot say that about the other side.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)And I don't hold it against him that he's a Klingon, because he is 100% correct
Uncle Joe
(58,368 posts)Peace to you.
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)if he was here today.
Uncle Joe
(58,368 posts)Peace to you, Live and Learn.
dchill
(38,505 posts)Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)democratic socialism.
Uncle Joe
(58,368 posts)Peace to you.
kath
(10,565 posts)by one of DUers illustrious "gifted" posters.
Uncle Joe
(58,368 posts)Peace to you, kath.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)coyote
(1,561 posts)Quote# 117360
I cannot stand him. His fans are racists who run around calling blacks racist and wonder why we hate him and them. I don't even LIKE Hillary but I will vote for her just so his fans can feel the sne BERN that they have been passing out.
Look at the racist comments here. I did not know jews hated us blacks so much. Good to know. I will return it in kind. There are so few of them It's a wonder they have the gall to think about being racist against blacks.
Bravenak, Frontpage Mag 6 Comments
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WTF?! || meh
http://www.fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=117360
There you are in all your glory Bravenak, pretty hard to forget that.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)kath
(10,565 posts)See this thread for links,which include a screenshot of the original post on the cesspool hate site. http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280152392
panader0
(25,816 posts)Be brave.
kath
(10,565 posts)apparently only certain people are allowed to do that:
Autumn
(45,109 posts)Thank you for posting this Uncle Joe.
Uncle Joe
(58,368 posts)KeepItReal
(7,769 posts)H2O Man
(73,559 posts)G_j
(40,367 posts)Broward
(1,976 posts)slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)Paulie
(8,462 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,368 posts)I can listen to Martin's words on the thread you linked to while I'm posting and reading on other threads including this one.
Peace to you.
Uncle Joe
(58,368 posts)used the word "revolution" or "revolutionary" something for which the corporate media conglomerates condemn Bernie for today or at the very least paint in a fearful light.
When it means nothing more than calling for economic justice, increased participation in our democracy, and the elimination of or major reform of our corrupted campaign finance system.
senz
(11,945 posts)can be read here: http://www.thekingcenter.org/king-philosophy#sub1
Thanks, Paulie, for linking to the original speech.
Myrina
(12,296 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,368 posts)Peace to you.
mia
(8,361 posts)His life changed mine. I came of age when he was the spokesperson for all of us. His eyes have seen the glory of what we could be.
840high
(17,196 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)They mock Sen. Sanders for holding the same positions some 50 years later. They support a candidate who on economics is 180 degrees opposite what Dr. King would support.
It really is depressing.
Uncle Joe
(58,368 posts)Peace to you.
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)It just makes me soooooo mad!
ETA: And the funny thing is: it feels so GOOOOOOOOD to feel so mad.
Go figure. Kinda like an addiction for some of us.
Buzz cook
(2,472 posts)..
Duppers
(28,125 posts)Thank you for this thread, Uncle Joe.
The parallels are extraordinary and I shake my head at the fact that so many are blind to them.
Uncle Joe
(58,368 posts)Peace to you.
JEB
(4,748 posts)Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)And countless others who were not as famous.
Like Bernie.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)aikoaiko
(34,172 posts)I think that most of the objections you noted were strategic.
Uncle Joe
(58,368 posts)the tacit or indirect objections to MLK's economic message will fade away and he will still be touted as an American Hero but his legacy will also continue to be co-opted by those willfully ignoring Dr. King's fundamental anti-poverty, anti-war and economic equality messages.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Big K&R
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Wow. Oh. Wow. No wonder that never gets brought up on the "Martin Luther King, Jr. National Day of Service."
Just like President Kennedy, Dr. King opposed war in Vietnam.
It was Cheney who privatized the Pentagon for Bush Sr, a guy I'd like to question publicly about his activities in Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963.
Thank you for another outstanding OP and thread, Uncle Joe. You get it: Some "things" are more important than money. People, for instance. Peace, another.
Uncle Joe
(58,368 posts)Peace to you.
Duppers
(28,125 posts)Octafish, best history source on DU!
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Instead, the FBI and US Army intelligence and who knows what-all did all they could to spy on Dr. King. FBI Director J Edgar Hoover even used his office to encourage the man to take his own life.
FBI tracked King's every move
* FBI memo called King the "most dangerous ... effective Negro leader" in U.S.
* Hidden wiretaps turned up no Communist Party ties, just extramarital affairs
* J. Edgar Hoover's contempt for MLK's private behavior shows in private memos
By Jen Christensen
CNN, Dec. 29, 2008
EXCERPT...
Hoover's contempt for King's private behavior is clear in the memos he kept in his personal files. His scrawl across the bottom of positive news stories about King's success dripped with loathing.
On a story about King receiving the St. Francis peace medal from the Catholic Church, he wrote "this is disgusting." On the story "King, Pope to Talk on Race," he scribbled "astounding." On a story about King's meeting with the pope, "I am amazed that the Pope gave an audience to such a degenerate." On a story about King being the heavy favorite to win the Nobel Prize, he wrote "King could well qualify for the 'top alley cat' prize!"
When King learned he would be the recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize in 1964, the FBI decided to take its harassment of King one step further, sending him an insulting and threatening note anonymously. A draft was found in the FBI files years later. In it the FBI wrote, "You are a colossal fraud and an evil, vicious one at that." The letter went on to say, "The American public ... will know you for what you are -- an evil, abnormal beast," and "Satan could not do more."
The letter's threat was ominous, if not specific: "King you are done." Some have theorized the intent of the letter was to drive King to commit suicide in order to avoid personal embarrassment. "King, there is only one thing left for you to do," the letter concluded. "You know what it is ... You better take it before your filthy, abnormal fraudulent self is bared to the nation."
CONTINUED...
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/31/mlk.fbi.conspiracy/
Dr. King was only 39 years of age when gunned down in Memphis, Tennessee. He was visting Memphis to express solidarity with the city's striking sanitation workers, largely African American and underpaid. Dr. King believed all men were equal under the law, no matter their pigmentation, heritage, religion, politics, or wealth.
G_j
(40,367 posts)hands down!
Octafish
(55,745 posts)No other American has been closer in deed, as well as in spirit, to the Jewish fellow, Son of Joseph from Nazareth, also.
The people who've moved trillions looted from US workers and taxpayers were behind his death and that of the Kennedy brothers and too many good others.
Uncle Joe
(58,368 posts)King's message of "We" with them it's all about slicing, dicing and dividing the people up by category; race, gender or whatever they can come up with, just so they can play the divide and conquer "horse race" game instead of focusing on the critical issues affecting the American Peoples' lives of which Martin championed.
So long as the American People play along with this game, the 99% will lose.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)And the people responsible are free to make fortunes or paint or whatever?
Uncle Joe
(58,368 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Martin Luther King, Jr. because the link was run by someone undesirable. As if reccing an accurate quote means you approve the owner of the source.
Besides that, it was clear from the thread that I thought the source was wikipedia. My critic referenced the thread and source but did not give the link. And this was one of those DUers who can pull up a link from 2002, when trolling someone about a past post.
The tactics are sickening sometimes.
Uncle Joe
(58,368 posts)Attacking the messenger if you fear or can't attack the message.
Peace to you, merrily.
merrily
(45,251 posts)In that case, the messenger was me and the message was that I clicked the rec button on a quote of Martin Luther King, Jr.
If anyone really thinks that I should be reproached on a message board because of that, too bad!
senz
(11,945 posts)Thanks for an uplifting thread, Uncle Joe.
Uncle Joe
(58,368 posts)the amazing thing is, it stuck through all these years.
Bernie has consistently held true to his core convictions throughout his career.
Peace to you, senz.