I'm not asking Bernie to drop out. I am asking Bernie supporters . . .

[Chichiri]

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. . . to stop supporting his Presidential campaign.

Hear me out.

Every anti-Hillary message forum post, or Facebook post, or Tumblr post, is an attack on the person who will be the Democratic nominee for President.

Every calorie of effort spent on those posts is a calorie not spent defending the Democratic nominee.

Every dollar spent on Bernie's campaign is a dollar not spent on the Democratic nominee.

More than that: every calorie and dollar spent on Bernie is a calorie and dollar not spent on converting the Bernie movement into a movement for the Hillary era. Thom Hartmann suggested (in a more-than-somewhat hysterical tone) that it be converted into an antiwar movement. This is a good idea. An even better idea would be a broader social and economic justice movement, something that works on a local level to lay the groundwork for more progressive Presidents in the future. All the young people who support Bernie would presumably jump to a movement like that, especially if Bernie were to lead it.

I'm asking you to convert your enthusiasm for Bernie into a broader, non-destructive campaign for a cohesive progressive movement. Every day you spend trying to make Bernie President is a day you're not doing that.

If Bernie wants to stay in the race, that's his right, and his affair. Inasmuch as Bernie's Presidential campaign is doing something other than trying to make him President, however, that something can be done more directly, and more efficiently, outside the context of a Presidential campaign. You can start now.

Please think about it.


EDIT: I've read all the replies to this thread, and have consolidated my replies into a single post.

[arcane1]

1. Fuck that. When he drops out, I'll stop supporting his campaign. To hell with this FUD shit.

It failed in 2008 and it will fail again in 2016.

[restorefreedom]

58. thread over. first response, too. nt

[AzDar]

89. ...

[840high]

114. +100

[think]

2. I'm asking Hillary to support the Anti Corruption Act. We can all dream....

http://anticorruptionact.org/full-text/

[Luciferous]

68. Lol

[JonLeibowitz]

79. DUzy....

[Jefferson23]

115. Your posts are tremendous. +1.

She cracks me up how she tries to defend herself with WS by using Obama.

[SciFiRK]

3. No, Nope, Nada, Aniyo

Hubris

[Matt_in_STL]

4. Here's the thing

Any money I didn't give Bernie i certainly wouldn't give to Hillary. The DNC will never see a dime from me as I will funnel my money to specific candidates. I knocked on doors for Obama to take voters to the polls and would do the same for Bernie but I wouldn't do it for Hillary.

The fact is, for many of us, not supporting Bernie does not mean supporting Hillary.

[LisaM]

80. I bet there are tons of down-ticket races that would love your support.

Sounds like the way to go!

[Matt_in_STL]

92. Yep, and that's where my money and time will be spent

[LisaM]

95. Good for you!

I wish we could secure a few more governors. They are doing more mischief than anyone else combined (yes, Snyder and Walker, I'm talking to you).

[kristopher]

5. You've put the shoe on the wrong foot.

Trying to force the left foot into a shoe fitted to the right foot is worse than uncomfortable, it damages the left foot.

[GreatGazoo]

6. do you have something against Democracy?

[Skwmom]

7. You are making a lot of assumptions there.

That Bernie contributors would give to Clinton.

That Bernie supporters will spend time defending Clinton.

And as far as Bernie converting to a local movement. That will be MUCH EASIER after he has campaigned in all 50 states.

[bravenak]

8. Couldn't even get people to stop calling us black voters ignorant and uninformed

Or stop seancing MLK. Or to stop harassing John Lewis. Or to stop calling for southern votes to b ignored.

But I hope you are successful.

[JonLeibowitz]

81. Question --

Is there a point after all this is over that you'll re-espouse your liberal views (since they are now no longer aligned with a candidate you dislike) ?

[bravenak]

83. Once people see the error of their damn ways, yes

As long as they pretending there was nothing wrong with all that ABUSE? I will talk about how they treated us ENDLESSLY. See, how minorities are TREATED is an actual issue that is fucking important. It's not a meme, or fake, or race baiting, or unfair to point out totaly blatant mistreatment by so called lefties.

If they wanna come correct I can stfu. Until Then? It is what it is. Maybe next time intead of jumping on us for not liking being treated like absolute shit, folks would check their peers instead, nobody'd have to hear jack shit about it.


And the CANDIDATE should have had our backs. He has never said a damn thing yet.

[PyaarRevolution]

99. I'm part of the GLBT community.

I don't think Hillary cares about me and the attempts she has made come across as cons to get my vote as a number, not a person. JMO.

[bravenak]

111. Ok.

Me too and I think she does care but fucks up big time in demonstrating it. What I like is that she realizes that she fucks up and tries to make amends. I'll take an apologetic fuck up who tries to fix shit over and unapologetic self righteous dude who has swarms of folks harassing people who look like me.

[Politicalboi]

139. Me too

And Hillary doesn't care about us. DOMA comes to mind. Hillary=Bill when times are good but when they show her bad side Bill=Bill.

[reformist2]

9. I still think Bernie will be the nominee.

[NJCher]

41. I do, too

So I see no need to make any other plans for my political donation money other than Bernie or Tim.

In any event, Hillary has tons of money from big corporate donors, so I don't know why she'd need my crummy little $27 donations.


Cher

[Garrett78]

145. Map out the path.

If you truly believe Sanders is going to get to 2026 pledged delegates, perhaps you could detail how that might happen.

[JoePhilly]

10. I'd be happy if they just spent as much time talking Bernie UP ...

... as they do attacking Hillary.

At present, for too many of them, their "support for Bernie" is nothing more than "anti-Hillary" ranting.

It would be nice if they focused a little more on why they support Bernie, not just why they don't like Hillary.

But I won't be holding my breath on this.

[Codeine]

11. They're not going to stop the attacks even after he drops out

and wholeheartedly endorses her, as he most assuredly will.

[liberal from boston]

91. Go Bernie

Your a psychic--you can predict the future. Hillary is not the candidate for change she is the status quo. Bernie is the President that is needed at this time. Robert Reich comment: “I’ve known Hillary Clinton since she was 19 years old, and have nothing but respect for her. In my view, she’s the most qualified candidate for president of the political system we now have,” Reich said. “But Bernie Sanders is the most qualified candidate to create the political system we should have, because he’s leading a political movement for change.”

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. This will depress voters... jesus

how tone deaf can people be?

At this point I will enjoy that in November... oy

Ok time to stop playing here, I need to put together a philosophy, which I expect CNN not to do.

[revbones]

13. Or

Every anti-Hillary message forum post, or Facebook post, or Tumblr post is actually an attack on a corrupt lying politican.

You assume other people are as ok with the corruption and lies as you are, and that if only they'd just see things your way...

[JoePhilly]

33. Every anti Hillary OP pushes pro Bernie OPS

.... straight to the bottom of GDP.

It's a brilliant strategy for ensuring Bernie's positive message is drowned out.

[pangaia]

40. Nobody outside of DU even know DU exists.

So who gives a shit.

[JoePhilly]

49. Same behavior is on display all over the

Internet.

It's no wonder the media doesn't talk about Bernie, many of his supporters don't talk about him either.

They're too busy talking shit about Hillary.

[pangaia]

50. Try reading some of the shit Hillary supporters write.

[JoePhilly]

51. Also obscured by all the anti Hillary nonsense.

[cherokeeprogressive]

56. "...ensuring Bernie's positive message is drowned out."

Run with it.

[JoePhilly]

66. All you have to do is look at the active GDP threads.

No running required.

[Loudestlib]

14. no

[mindwalker_i]

59. ^^^^ This ^^^^

In essence, the OP is saying we should stop supporting the person who actually holds democratic values and support the completely fucked up "organization" that has been and will continue screwing us over.

Fuck that shit!

[timmymoff]

15. I thought about it

and the answer is no. I'd rather fight the third way the whole way then let a single one of them think we are on their page. I'm not on your page, I'm not even reading the same book or in the same library. You want Bernie supporters to unite with your thirty years of crap. Nonsense. We will be the squeaky wheel that ensures Hillary keeps her new "evolutions." In my county we beat Hillary by 3000 Guess what group holds the power. Hint: it's the one with little infrastructure but hard workers who believe in democratic principles of old. I have no desire to help her start screwing us over. You may love the shit sandwiches she offers and even beg for seconds, not me or any of the Bernie supporters in my area. We are actually getting ready to take our efforts to our bordering states. At the end of the convention, then and only then, can you beg us to help. Then and only then many of us will decide. Stop begging , you are supposed to be the front runner.. play the game, go into four corners or whatever, but stop begging for a forfeit when we don't mind the fight.

[democrattotheend]

26. At least this OP acknowledges the need to beg

Rather than threaten or taunt or demand like many of her peers.

[Chichiri]

67. I'm a he. nt

[democrattotheend]

125. Sorry, I wasn't sure

I figured I had a 50/50 chance of guessing right.

[Ken Burch]

16. It can't be progressive to support HRC before the convention, though.

Which is what you really want.

As soon as Bernie gets out, your candidate is going to move forty degrees to the right. There's no good reason for her to do that, but she will.

[Ed Suspicious]

141. MSNBC today they were talking about Bernie stepping aside

so that Hill can pivot to courting Republicans away from Trump. I about three my shoe at the TV.

[immoderate]

17. Can someone who's bought be progressive?

--imm

[lmbradford]

18. No way

Bernie or any true progressive will get my vote. People who promote war and killing will not. EVER!!

[kath]

19. FFS. ENOUGH of this bullshit.

[yallerdawg]

29. Nothing but class.

So glad you are here.

[democrattotheend]

21. It's not about his right to run. It's about my right to vote for him.

And to have my vote matter.

If Hillary gets a mathematical lock on the nomination, I will consider shifting my energy. Not before.

Before donating to Bernie yesterday, I did consider what you were saying - that I have limited funds to donate and maybe I should wait to see who wins the nomination before allocating them. But then I decided that I am not ready to give up on Bernie and I want him to stay in the race until everyone has had the chance to vote, something Hillary herself fought for in 2008. Besides, the $18 I gave Bernie would do little for Hillary, who has so much institutional support, be it from corporations or left-leaning interest groups, and plenty of wealthy donors who can max out. For that reason, if Hillary is the nominee, I am unlikely to give her money, though I will support her in other ways. I would rather give my money to candidates who actually depend on small donations to fuel their campaigns, because I feel that it has more impact.

I also believe it is in the interest of the eventual Democratic nominee to have competitive primaries in every state. In 2008, having competitive primaries in every state brought a lot of new Democratic voters into the process and put in place campaign infrastructures that enabled Obama to win unlikely states like Indiana and North Carolina, both of which had primaries in May. In 2012, when there was no competitive primary, he did not win those states.

I appreciate that your post was more respectful than some of the others, but I still think it is premature and counter-productive. The time to post something like this would be if she locks up a majority of pledged delegates.

[riderinthestorm]

22. Nope, Bernie's message is the broader economic and social justice message

I'm putting my heart, soul and $$ into helping him get that message out there. He's been the best advocate in my lifetime and I'm going to help him get that message out as long as he's willing to continue.

Besides, Bernie is helping down ticket races - 191 races specifically. So by helping him, I am helping get more progressives onto the scene for the future.

http://jackpineradicals.org/showthread.php?4694-Bernie-s-Coat-Tails-Important-List-of-Bernie-Democrats-Running-for-Office

Besides Hillary will do nothing for climate change and her warmongering is disgusting. The planet can't wait for her "incrementalism" and people need to be able to live free of despicable US wars.

She's a terrible candidate and that message must not be silenced.

[democrattotheend]

23. He is also helping the eventual Democratic nominee

Whether it is him or Hillary, by bringing new voters into the process who are more likely to turn out in November and less likely to have difficulty voting if they have already voted in the primaries.

[HubertHeaver]

53. As long as Bernie is still in the race the news coverage won't go dark as it did

in 2004. This year the klowns will keep on klowning and the media moguls would love to drop all democratic coverage.

[azurnoir]

24. so let me get this straight you think Bernie's supporters should donate to Hilary and

redirect the youngsters attention into supporting something small and quiet, something that will keep them busy and build their self esteem until they grow up and see reality or after the elections whichever comes first

well good luck with that

[Lizzie Poppet]

25. Okay, I heard you out.

The answer is still "no." Sorry. I'd really love to accommodate one of the few Hillary supporters who hasn't been acting like a complete and utter douche and has presented a civil, reasoned argument.

But I can't. I don't want a "Hillary era." She is everything I despise about status-quo politics and the Democratic Party's nauseating lurch to the center-right. Her only positive to me is that she's "not Trump." It's not enough...not now that it's been shown an actual progressive has a chance.

I've previously indicated an intention to vote for her if my state is in play (unlikely...). Despite the efforts of so many assholes in the Hillary camp here to dissuade me, I'll probably still do that. But I won't stop supporting Bernie until he's either mathematically eliminated or drops out. And I sure as hell won't help with a Hillary campaign. I need to be able to look at myself in the mirror in the morning. Sorry. And I truly mean that...

[marew]

36. My thoughts exactly! nt

[SusanCalvin]

27. At this point, there is no "Democratic nominee." nt

[Avalux]

28. I'm asking Hillary supporters to stop trying to make us stop.

We're going to the convention, and then yes, we will continue Bernie's progressive movement, with him in the White House or not.

Sorry if you think what we're doing is hurting your candidate (who ISN'T the nominee), but that's the way it goes. Have a nice day.

[Downwinder]

30. Would you be willing to drop out of Hillary's campaign?

[timmymoff]

35. yes

since we have soundly rejected your idea it is now on you to call for Hillary to drop out of the race. It would be best for the party if you stop the divisive tactics and moved your support to Sanders. In order to build on a progressive movement in which progressives will actually support it is of the upmost importance that you and other Hillary supporters beg her to suspend her campaign. Progressives want to vote for progressives not blue dog democrats. Thank you for your efforts in asking her to suspend. I thank you in advance.

[Waiting For Everyman]

31. You've got a whole lot of nerve. "The Hillary era"???

OMG, that's the funniest thing ever!

What you really mean is why don't we convert Bernie's run for President into some dopey little pseudo-movement that Hillary can subvert, take credit for, kick around and ignore? Oh, you mean kind of like the way we're treated now? Sure, we'll "look into it".

Just for that, I think I'll double yesterday's donation. How's that?

[Doctor_J]

34. Comedy Gold.

The Hillary Era ( ) is going to feature torture, more bloated Pentagon, more privatization, more prisons, lower wages, more offshoring of decent jobs, more domestic spying, social security cuts, and more expensive healthcare. God willing Bernie's supporters will have nothing to do with this.

[marew]

38. And that's the good part! Just wait if she is elected!

Hope we never find out what she really has in store for us!

[Art_from_Ark]

84. The Hillary Era will be the Gold Standard of Eras!1!1!l1ll!1!!

[TM99]

37. Fuck no.

The Iowa caucus was on February 1st. It is only March 17th. A month and a half into the primary season with a little more than half the delegates outstanding and y'all are back to your fucking game of inevitability.

The Sanders movement will never be able to be converted to a Clinton one. Progressivism and neoliberalism are like oil and water, they just don't mix.

This is so not helping y'all. This reeks of the desperation of cheaters, who try so hard to get you to quit because they know they aren't really winning. They just want to convince you that you have lost.

So hell fucking no to this ridiculous and insulting OP.

[John Poet]

42. Hillary supporters, please stop supporting a lying criminal warmonger.

All your hard work and money will go completely down the drain
when she is indicted.

Thank you.

[Bluenorthwest]

43. Hillary holds forth: May 2008 on why she should stay in the race and she claims that calls for a

candidate to drop out are historically unprecedented and done to her for some reason she refuses to state. But her own campaign is doing it to Bernie now.

This is perhaps the most ironic political video clip that exists at this moment in time:

[SusanCalvin]

69. ^THIS^

[montana_hazeleyes]

146. Hillary is saying this in her own words:

She believed then that it should not be over until the process is complete. It really would be quite wrong to disenfranchise the people in the states coming up.

I agree whether it was Bernie ahead right now or Hillary. Everyone should have a say in Every State.

[pangaia]

44. Fuck that shit.

The Clintons and their ilk destroyed the Democratic Party. They are nothing but self-serving, lying, arrogant, corporate mouthpieces.

No way in hell would I ever give them a dime.

Will I vote for Clinton if by some horror she becomes the ex-Democratic Party nominee?

I don't have to make that decision. I live in New York.

[JonLeibowitz]

82. I very much like your suggestion to start calling the Clinton wing what it is:

the ex-Democratic party. We the people decide who to consider deserving of the label of our party. Each and every one of us.

[pangaia]

119. I was just thinking.. what about "Faux Democratic Party?

Or, FDP..

[YOHABLO]

126. I live in Georgia .. you think my vote for Hillary or Bernie will count?

[pangaia]

131. I hear ya.

[peace13]

45. You can not force people to support someone whose moral fiber is not of theirs.

Some people need to support honest, peaceful, ethical politicians because they understand that voting against ones conscience will eventually eat one alive. There is no need to settle here and asking them to is really just wrong on so many levels. Hillary folks would be better off trying to encourage independent, undecided voters to vote for her instead of running Bernie people down. Wok for her, dig in and get your hands dirty. It will be good for everyone.

[tokenlib]

46. No more enabling the Third Way/New Dems..Wall Street cash addicts! Hillary Era?

Hillary ERA? Fuck that shit!! Time for another donation to Bernie!

[NV Whino]

47. 👎🏾 Nope.

[dogman]

48. No, this is about revolution.

It doesn't just go away. As Bernie spreads his message it builds a movement that will be needed to continue to pressure Hillary to do what is right and force the Party out of the control of the 1%. Every day we support Bernie, that is what we are striving for. Since Hillary has it wrapped up, you are free to join a truly progressive movement. This is even more important as Trump looms in our future.

[Bjornsdotter]

52. I would seriously consider

....supporting Vermin Supreme first.

Donating to Bernie....thanks for the reminder.

[NCjack]

135. Oh, yes. I must make another donation to Bernie2016. All debt slaves, vote

for Bernie and remove your collar.

[cherokeeprogressive]

54. This response was written after reading only two sentences...

Not. On. Your. Fucking. Life.

Or

Not only NO, but FUCK NO, and don't fucking ask again.

[Cleita]

55. I could ask the same of Hillary voters for the same reasons.

Maybe you don't mean it, but you are asking people to vote from fear not conviction. Vote for your choice in the primary. I will vote for mine because it's my truth not yours.

[SheilaT]

57. Really? When not even half the states have voted?

In 2008 Hillary stayed in until the convention, even after it was beyond crystal clear she wasn't going to get the nomination. Bernie is NOT out of the race at this point, and going forward the states that are left to vote tend to favor him. So why exactly do you want us to fold our tents?

Oh, and I've given money to Bernie, but I will NOT be giving money to Hillary or the DNC. She and they care so little for people like me that I'm going to show them the same consideration.

[Kittycat]

60. ••• I know it's hard to believe •••

That Bernie came from so far behind, and is doing so great. I'm thrilled that he is out there re-engerizing so many voters that haven't been heard by our party leaders in a long time. Even better, he's engaging with new voters, when the DNC wasn't all that interested in them or really saving any seats in the Democratic Party.

So I say, Bernie running for President is great for the party, it's great for us, and great for the democratic cause as a whole. For far too long our party has had to pull right, and beg at the corporate trough, because our base has widdled away. He's proving to everyone that we don't have to do that. Imagine if Hillary would have engaged her base or decided to have a straight forward converstion and make some changes vs the program she opted to go with. Really, imagine what a great place our party would be in right now. Such a shame.

Anyway... Instead of beating us up with sticks, how about considering some of the great things that are going to be possible now. Especially since Bernie and supporters like us are in it all the way. The republicans aren't looking so hot right now my friend, wouldn't you agree? We're sitting over here with millions of mobilized and energetic supporters on a mission for serious change in this country. And donors? We have donors. Each one of us has a vested interest with boots on the ground. $27 freaking dollars, can you believe it? They're freaking out! And all they have is a ticking time bomb. We're they're worst nightmare. LOL. This is going to be fantastic. Front row seats to the destruction of the Republican Party.

Care for some Popcorn?

[peacebird]

61. Why bless your little heart.....

The power of Nope, see this Bernie supporter has learned from Hillary! Nope. No can do.

[Autumn]

62. Nope, not gonna happen. Gonna send an extra donation, and going to do some phone banking next week

Our, we Sanders supporters enthusiasm, for Bernie is building a broader, non-destructive campaign for a cohesive progressive movement. We will succeed too. The money I have donated to Bernie is the best investment I have ever made. It's for my kids and grand kids.

[Armstead]

63. No and here's why. This is the only opportunity for core issues in a Presidential campaign

Hillary and the Democrat Establishment want to start talking about nothing but how bad trump and the GOP are, and toss in a few pandering generalities about chickens in every pot.

Bernie has been the first vehicle for actual core issues about Wealth and Power to make it into the mainstream national dialogue since the 1970's.

There have been grassroots movements all along who have done worthy things. There have been some national movements, but they have been marginalized and occasionally demonized by the Democratic Establishment.

The ONLY way to keep these issues in the dialogue at this point is for Bernie to keep hammering at them. Hopefully, even if he doesn't break through to the nomination, at least the wake up call will have been delivered.

[noretreatnosurrender]

64. Arrogant

The arrogance of this post is just stunning.

[dubyadiprecession]

65. Bernie supporters have to understand that hillary has been through..

the worst already. Republicans have been unsuccessfully attacking her for decades now. The partisan fights have only made her stronger, as she is still standing. After all that, most people couldn't take it and leave politics. She's tough, she knows what she is getting into and still wants to be our president and fight for us.

[Bjornsdotter]

73. Is that the...

...Citibank and Goldman Sachs us, because Bernie is the one fighting for the average person.

[Cleita]

93. Bernie has been in Congress 25 years as an Independent being beat up by Republicans and

Democrats alike because he was an outsider. He has more years experience in that than she does. Time to change that meme to a more truthful one.

[Politicalboi]

142. You heard that old saying

That doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. We already HAD a Clinton is the White House. Let's stop it here.

And you have to understand that she will be mired in more shit if she's elected. This has only just begun.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

70. Climate change and the sixth global mass-extinction event is happening now

Hillary and her friend Kissinger think war is more important.

Sanders understands the issues that matter.

You can support the war woman - I will support Sanders

[joeybee12]

71. Spot on, but of course they're not listening to you...

As long as Bernie stays on message, no one cares if he stays in, but if he keeps on with the personal attacks, as do his supporters, he's only helping the Repukes.

[artislife]

86. Too bad we are using facts. And they hurt her.

She could have made other choices all along the way, but she didn't. We are saying "Enough is enough."

[Politicalboi]

143. Personal Attacks?

It's just her past. It's her lying. It's her investigations. We can't help that she has so many faults. She's your choice. Seems you made the wrong choice.

[Warren DeMontague]

72. No thanks.

He's doing her a favor by staying in, and so are we.

[whatchamacallit]

74. I'm not saying Bernie should drop out...

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[Kalidurga]

133. Yeah that is pretty much what the OP is saying

They stink with desperation.

[ladjf]

75. I don't buy your slick sales pitch.

If Hillary is elected, she and her people will try to keep Bernie out of the public eye. She's not going to
be calling him up for advice as she said she would. Bernie's revolution is a threat to ALL of her strategies.

[Logical]

76. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[bkkyosemite]

77. Link to print out Bernie Flyers...give them out every where you go!

http://feelthebern.org/flyer-kit/ You can copy them...one page has two flyers on it...you can even copy them in black and white to get them out every where you go...this is a war a war against corruption and establishment pay as you go government.

[Blue_In_AK]

78. No, thanks.

[artislife]

85. Good. I love that people are hearing something

besides her revisionist history. The more people know, the more they start to understand how deep the stink is in for both parties, the better.

We all have to wake the eff up.

She is not going to do anything that matters. Not on the large scale.

[H2O Man]

87. No, thank you.

[Punkingal]

88. I appreciate your sincerity, and your lack of ridicule of Bernie supporters.

But I cannot stop supporting Bernie. I admired him long before he ran for President. I believe in him. I believe in the things he talks about. As long as he is in the race, I am going to help him.

I think you would feel the same if the shoe was on the other foot, since you believe in Hillary. I personally don't think there will be a Hillary era. If there is, it won't be what I would like to see. I know the Clinton record, and I know she was Bill's partner all the way. They told us that often enough. I want something better, and while there is even the barest chance of getting it, I will continue to hope for it.

[aikoaiko]

94. I won't be donating to the DNC, HRCs campaign, or her PACS if she is the nominee.

She's got plenty of $$$ to buy people to talk her up.

So no need to worry about my continued support for Bernie.

[LP2K12]

96. No offense...

It's difficult to convert my enthusiasm to a person or campaign that doesn't have me enthusiastic.

[winter is coming]

97. The reasons why I support Bernie instead of Hillary remain unchanged, so no,

I have no intention of removing my support.

[IDemo]

98. No

No, again.

[Maedhros]

100. If Hillary is to win, I want the path to the nomination to be as difficult and costly as possible.

Corporate puppets need to learn that progressives aren't going to stomach their kind in the Democratic Party anymore.

[JeffHead]

104. + 1000

[Raster]

128. Daa-yumn!

[rateyes]

101. Ok. I will think about it.

Thinking.


















Nope.

[bkkyosemite]

102. You must think that Senator Sanders supporters are the type that quits under

pressure...HELL NO!............not happening.......

[Land of Enchantment]

103. I am a registered democrat and have been since 1971 an I have the right to vote

in my primary on June 7. If you have a problem with that then move to some shithole country that supports your beliefs. Until then please find something better to do with your time.

[pdsimdars]

105. I didn't "hear you out",

This morning I was asking around with what people do with annoying posts, the kind that you don't want to muddy your brain by slogging through them. The overwhelming consensus was to just "ignore" them.
All I needed was to get to your "hear me out" and I realized this was one of those posts.
Buh bye... . .

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

106. No sale. It is the responsibility of the voters to scrutinize the candidates for president.

Backing Hillary Clinton as a progressive, anti-war, social justice, advocate is laughable on the face of it. She is none of the above.

[frylock]

107. Here's a picture of me defending the Democratic nominee

[merrily]

108. You think many of Bernie's supporters going to work for and donate to Hillary?

They may or may not vote for her, but I don't see armies of them volunteering and donating.

I could always be wrong because I don't have many daily discussions about this and I do read a lot posts every day. So, I my view could be skewed. But, whether or not people vote for her, I don't see a majority of Bernie's supporters donating and volunteering as they have for Bernie.

[jillan]

109. Wow - talk about self importance trying to tell Americans how they should vote.

Especially since half of the states have NOT VOTED YET!!

[2banon]

110. LOL!

[Chichiri]

120. Sigh. nt

[Impedimentus]

112. It's posts like this one that keep me sending contributions to Bernie

The disingenuous "arguments" you make are amusing however. Thanks for the laugh.

FEEL THE BERN - 2016

[Live and Learn]

113. Hell no. nt

[bigwillq]

116. I have not voted yet. I will continue to support Bernie for Prez

Until I had my say in the democratic process. Even if he fails to win the nomination before I get to vote in CT on Apr 26, I will still support Bernie for Prez.

[MrMickeysMom]

117. You have not understood it from it's inception, or you would never have posted

Add your name to the list of Democrats who are too busy following standard practice while checking their critical thinking at the door. Go ahead... I'm used to you guys. You're not grasping, though you could, what this country needs and what is intended by a revolutionary process.

I and many others don't need what has been continuing to kill this country for decades. We need a political revolution under true leadership.

That's not likely to stop until it has to.

[Third Doctor]

118. The answer is simple.

NO!!

[ibegurpard]

121. She wouldn't get my money with or without him

False premise

[LWolf]

122. No.

I don't have to convert my enthusiasm for Bernie into a broader campaign for a cohesive progressive movement. I actually have been pretty damned enthusiastic and determined to see a cohesive progressive movement long, long before Sanders ever decided to run for president. He just galvanized that movement and helped make it more public and more cohesive; he didn't start it.

I will continue to support his campaign because of that, and because whether he works from the WH or the Senate, he'll be working for that movement.

Hillary Clinton, win or lose, will not be. I won't be spending any of my time or dollars or enthusiasm or energy on her. If Sanders dropped out tonight, that wouldn't change. And I'm not going to look the other way, lie, prevaricate, or anything else when it comes to a Clinton candidacy. I probably won't have anything at all to say about her, at least not here, should worse come to worst. I'll be too busy elsewhere, with a progressive movement.

[yuiyoshida]

123. If you don't mind...

and I am sure that you don't,... I will pass, Thank You.

[Old Crow]

124. +1...

Yui responded with much kinder words than I probably would've used. I'll try to learn from her and simply say, "Yes--what she said."

[basselope]

127. I don't vote for Republicans.

And thus will not be voting for Hillary.

[DonCoquixote]

129. she is not the nominee yet

"Every calorie of effort spent on those posts is a calorie not spent defending the Democratic nominee. "

Even if this is a formality, it is a formality that describes why, for example, we are NOT a parliament where a party group picks a prime minister instead of a president. Besides which, if Hillary is as strong, she will have no problem being selected, and indeed, be stronger because she has been vetted in an honest election, much as Obama was vetted by Hillary.

[MFM008]

130. nice try but

as long as one dusty homeless guy is standing around Sanders or vice versa, until he says stop they wont stop or do the math. Its their right, just like Hillary did in 08. When he does enough math, the truth will dawn, just like it did HRC VS Barack Obama. It hurts, you grieve, you move on, you support the democratic nominee. period.

[Politicalboi]

132. Stop it already

She should drop out over investigations. And for cheating going to the polls. I wouldn't say a good word about her if my life depended on it. We're in it till the END. Get over it and yourself. Let's hope Hillary can rel;ease her transcripts and that the FBI puts s top to her campaign. You are DREAMING. We want to crush Hillary in the coming elections.

[Bassomar]

134. Hahaha

Nope, she has blood on her hands. Her feet will be held to the fire. If you can't get that then FU.

[farleftlib]

136. Not on your life

This is a revolution, in case you aren't up on current events. That means we are right now in the first stages, not the last.

[Ed Suspicious]

137. Fuck that.

[NCjack]

140. What I feel in reading Clintonite entreaties to stop supporting Bernie and fall-in-line is

an undertone of fear that she may fail in the delegate count or be removed from the race. I like our chances of success with an extremely honorable candidate -- Bernie Sanders. (Just made another donation!)

[oldandhappy]

144. I would like to be allowed to vote.

Our primary has not yet happened. Please, allow me to vote. Thank you.