Anecdotal: Hillary supporters breaking for Kasich in Ohio

[revbones]

I was just on the phone with a business partner in Ohio after she texted me a photo of her ballot. She she is a die-hard Hillary supporter. So I was taken aback when I got the photo of her ballot showing she voted for Kasich.

I asked why and she said that her die-hard "consensus group" of Hillary supporters decided that they believe Hillary has the nomination and it's more important for them to vote for Kasich to avoid Trump getting the nomination. Their belief is that if they can get Kasich's numbers up, it will aid the push toward a brokered convention and keep Trump out. They are so scared of a Trump candidacy in the general with the possibility that he might win, that they all skipped out on voting for Hillary and instead chose Kasich.

Weird right? Meanwhile, hopefully more felt this way and Bernie is laughing all the way to the bank in Ohio.

[JTFrog]

1. Cool story bro. n/t

[Snotcicles]

15. True story bro. They are going door to door with that stuff. My friend in Ohio is

a Bernie supporter and told them, no way! that she would never vote for a republican.

[nadinbrzezinski]

39. Have you seen coverage of news media about this cross over?

The anecdotal is pretty much confirmed by both CNN and MSNBC

Oh and the Cleveland paper as well

http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2016/03/can_john_kasich_stop_donald_tr.html

[Punkingal]

44. Yes, I saw that on CNN.

Wow. If Bill really did tell Trump he should run, I'll bet he's shitting a brick. (Excuse my language.)

[Renew Deal]

2. Tell your friends they screwed up

http://prospect.org/article/losing-ohio-improves-trump%E2%80%99s-chances-win-nomination

[revbones]

3. I really don't care as long as they don't vote for Hillary... :) nt

[leftofcool]

5. And Bernie might get half the delegates and still be behind

[Hortensis]

38. He has to get over 55% just to NOT fall farther behind.

If he got 58%, it'd mean a couple extra delegates, not nearly what he has to get.

[Ken Burch]

7. That link seems to be dead. n/t.

[Renew Deal]

18. Fixed

http://prospect.org/article/losing-ohio-improves-trump%E2%80%99s-chances-win-nomination

[morningfog]

4. It's illegal to photograph a filled in ballot in some states, fyi.

[revbones]

11. Well I didn't do it... I just got the text...

[DefenseLawyer]

23. "Also, let's not forget - let's not forget, Dude"

"that keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city - that aint legal either." -Walter Sobchak

[Docreed2003]

42. Well that's just like....your opinion man

[Glamrock]

43. What the fuck

are you talking about, Walter?

[beam me up scottie]

49. LMAO! Perfect!

[Kip Humphrey]

6. Hillary supporters believing Hillary hype.

That it the problem with true believers.

[Merryland]

29. great gif!!! n/t

[Svafa]

8. There have been quite a few reports of

Dems in OH to vote Kasich, and there has been speculation as to whether they are Clinton supporters who feel that she has OH in the bag so they can throw a protest vote against Drumpf or whether they're more conservative/moderate working-class white Dems who likewise wish to protest Drumpf. This is the first post I've seen where Democrats voting Kasich have been identified as Clinton or Sanders supporters. If there are as many Dems voting for Kasich as the media are making it seem, it will be very interesting to see how this will affect the Democratic race.

[alcibiades_mystery]

9. Aaaaaaaaachooo-bullshit

Gesundheit.

[nadinbrzezinski]

40. Tell that to the Cleveland paper

http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2016/03/can_john_kasich_stop_donald_tr.html

As well as MSNBC and CNN, they are reporting the same

[thereismore]

10. That's stupid of them because Kasich beats Hillary in the GE. Just saying.

[revbones]

12. Again, I don't care. As long as they don't vote for Hillary

it's fewer votes Bernie has to overcome to win!

[revbones]

13. For what it's worth

She lives in Chagrin Falls, Ohio. She's probably late fifties. Big Hillary supporter and fan. Won't even consider for a second that Bernie could be a better candidate or could win.

I mentioned the last debate, and she said the news proved Hillary cleaned Bernie's clock. I asked "What about the standing ovation at the end?" She replied that it was nice of them to give both candidates a standing ovation. I then asked about them chanting "Bernie! Bernie!" and she said the audience was just stacked with his supporters. I gave up after that.

[highprincipleswork]

34. Basically without a lick of common sense.

[revbones]

35. She didn't watch the debate. She gets her news from MSNBC & CNN. nt

[BernieforPres2016]

14. Hard to imagine hard core supporters doing that

The current view among campaign insiders appears to be that Ohio is likely in play on the Democratic side and Bernie could win. Perhaps these Hillary supporters are starting to realize that they would be OK Feeling the Bern but need a rationalization for abandoning Hillary.

And don't tell them this, but I have seen analysts say it will actually be better for Trump if Kasich wins Ohio and stays in the race. Under that school of thought, Trump has a bigger chance of losing he nomination if the race gets down to Trump versus Cruz with everybody else out and a lot of states still to go.

[revbones]

17. That's not it

At least for the group I was referring to. I talked to her after the text because I was initially upset at her for voting in a Republican and not Bernie or at least Democrat and wanted to know what the heck was going on, because I knew her to be a Democrat and proud Hillary supporter.

She explained to me that Hillary had this, but she just could not risk the possibility of Trump getting the presidency and that this was strategic to get a brokered convention and protect against Trump.

She even posted this on FB this morning "First time ever voting Republican but the consensus told me it was best to vote for Kasich today. I hope Hillary will forgive me"

[BernieforPres2016]

22. Thanks for the data point

If I heard this from MSNBC after a Hillary loss I would taken it for an excuse. I heard or read a little bit of speculation on some voters like your friend after the Michigan primary.

[revbones]

25. I jsut thought it was weird, until I posted it.

It's my wife's birthday and we were out all day after voting and she is taking a nap, so I thought I'd post that and check in. I originally thought it was just really weird that she did that. Now after your post and others, I think it might be a little more widespread.

[Land of Enchantment]

16. Ohio is a mixed primary

and she must be in an 'open' precinct where the voter can for anyone and your party registration is irrelevant. Can anyone explain how this works? Does anyone have a map or listing of open/closed areas of the state? Thanks!

[OhioBlue]

24. It's not a mixed primary in that sense

The entire State votes the same way. You request your ballot when you vote. Whichever ballot you request causes you to be registered in that party. So, you may have identified and voted D for the last 20 years, but if you request an R ballot, you get one and become registered R.

Changing my registration is the only think holding me back from voting for Kasich today. I don't think I can do it.

[SheenaR]

19. Local papers have said

Many Democrats are doing this. And from both sides in fairness. It's a dumb idea.

[awake]

21. I do not think many Bernie voters would switch

Now the Hillary voters who switched may have voted for ether Republican

[Samantha]

45. I do not believe Bernie voters would switch either (eom)

[Cobalt Violet]

20. Yes!

Maybe an unintentional benefits of being underestimated!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

26. Kinda like jabbing your eye with needle to avoid somebody else jabbing your eye with a needle.

[revbones]

27. It's the same as all the loyalty oaths they expect.

In their mind, they're sucking it up to vote for someone they don't approve of, 'for the greater good'. I think that's partially the mentality that is present with those posting the loyalty oath posts here.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

30. Well, I'm avoiding jabbing my eye with a needle by voting for the most progressive candidate

on my ballot.

It also saves wear and tear on my overly tender nose injured by past votes for the "lesser of two evils".

[CanadaexPat]

28. Too clever by half.

1. This will hurt Hillary, obviously, and makes a lot of assumptions about future events.
2. A brokered convention will make Trump stronger - if the Rep establishment can't stop him now they can't stop him then, they're just delaying the inevitable and are going to allow him to prove his strength and their disarray.

[SheilaT]

31. Don't you just LOVE the arrogance of the Hillary crowd?

"She has the nomination sewn up so I'll vote in the Republican primary."

When Sanders wins Ohio, text her the definition of "hubris".

[revbones]

36. ROFL.... so true nt

[Renew Deal]

37. Sanders needs to win Ohio 60-40

Other than that, he's not getting anywhere. After today, he will need to win states 65-35.

[Hortensis]

41. Simple truth.

[jillan]

32. Haha GOOD! Ohio is one state that Bernie could pull another upset, and if Hillary supporters

want to help - all I can say is -

Thank you!

[jwirr]

46. The only thing that is weird is that the Hillary group thinks

she has a win in Ohio in the bag. Let is hope they are wrong and it will be a two prong win for us - Trump will lose and Bernie will win.

[mhatrw]

47. Makes sense since Kasich is basically Hillary in stag. nt

[ebayfool]

48. Kasich scares me more than Trump. He keeps his crazy masked, Trump revels in his for all to see.

In the WH, Kasich would do more harm - he would have the full cooperation of the GOP. Trump I think would keep the GOP in full disarray.

So Hillary groups that are participating in this little game are playing with fire (imo). Helps my candidate, but dayum! Are they really thinking this through?

[Capt. Obvious]

50. MSNBC just reported

a precinct with 93% registered D voted 44% in R primary

[nadinbrzezinski]

52. That could be really bad for one of the campaigns

[TwilightGardener]

51. Idiotic, if true. I never understand throwing one's vote away to play games like this.

[nadinbrzezinski]

53. This year is not a normal cycle

and I keep saying that.

We have a new Reagan coalition building, which I predicted months ago.