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Apparently, me too. TDale313 Mar 2016 #1
I'm with you! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2016 #7
Punish by voting for the other party. Hortensis Mar 2016 #21
Nothing will force change it seems Armstead Mar 2016 #29
I will proudly stand with you! n/t djean111 Mar 2016 #2
Millions and millions are right there with you. SamKnause Mar 2016 #3
It's amazing how many Democrats have drunk the 'Hillary is more electable' Kool-Aid, forest444 Mar 2016 #4
Glad you finally realize it. Some us didn't have the heart to tell you. RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #5
Glad you have the luxury to gamble with our future....some don't. -nt Happenstance24 Mar 2016 #6
Future War's, Future Regime change's , Future Bank bail-outs, Future Trade deals....... bahrbearian Mar 2016 #9
Back alley abortions, end of the middle class, guns everywhere, corps having even more power... Happenstance24 Mar 2016 #13
This won't work on me. 840high Mar 2016 #31
yes, I can see Clinton doing all of that dana_b Mar 2016 #33
Your candidate opposed my right to marry just 3 years ago and she's supposed to be my champion? Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #43
I don't care if Bernie Happenstance24 Mar 2016 #51
Why would people sit out? You could just write him in if you want to. Loudestlib Mar 2016 #52
We've been gambling with it for a long time. Some of us have noticed the game is rigged. Autumn Mar 2016 #11
Translated: "My cynical, pessimistic view of humanity... RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #14
This. great post! kath Mar 2016 #41
There is very little in Hillary's stated proposals that improve the future lives of regular citizens Trajan Mar 2016 #17
Is there a mirror nearby? dchill Mar 2016 #19
If your candidate fails to get elected, that's the fault of your candidate. n/t Loudestlib Mar 2016 #34
True. Now tell Berniestans that. -nt Happenstance24 Mar 2016 #37
Primary is not over yet your vote suppressing bully tactics are reckless and smug. Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #45
I'll tell anyone that will listen. Loudestlib Mar 2016 #50
Yeahup, voting for more war.... daleanime Mar 2016 #49
SSDE Dem2 Mar 2016 #8
put me down too as "one of many people who has just fucking had enough (pardon my language) and kath Mar 2016 #10
Amen. 840high Mar 2016 #32
I've always been this way. Gregorian Mar 2016 #12
How dare you! 99th_Monkey Mar 2016 #15
This will be my 11th POTUS election as a voter Martin Eden Mar 2016 #16
I'm an academic, so I'm resistant to academese MisterP Mar 2016 #18
I'd vote for him over Hillary on that alone. panader0 Mar 2016 #54
And dreamers. Vinca Mar 2016 #20
We must be related! cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #22
the corporate owned media Thespian2 Mar 2016 #23
It's highly amusing to find people who cry "purists" usually demand we be "pure" Democrats Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #24
except that MANY of us are not Dems dana_b Mar 2016 #36
In my state we don't register by party. It's quite liberating. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #38
I'm going with the latter. AlbertCat Mar 2016 #25
If Reagan democrats have taken over heaven warrprayer Mar 2016 #26
Count me the same. We could have things so much better. Jackilope Mar 2016 #27
Sad that people give up so easily and are willing to turn the country over to Trump. Hoyt Mar 2016 #28
"Give up so easily"?!? Hell, the DLC/ThirdWay assholes have been serving us shit for DECADES and we kath Mar 2016 #47
Life is tough, it'll be tougher under Trump. Just give up and see how you feel in 10 years. Hoyt Mar 2016 #48
Shame on you. You need to be brought to heel. EndElectoral Mar 2016 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author SidDithers Mar 2016 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #39
Take a break and do something you love -- at least for a couple of days Samantha Mar 2016 #40
This place is starting to reek of desperation ... salinsky Mar 2016 #42
How long have you been a racist? Jack Rabbit Mar 2016 #44
Kicked and recommended to the Max! The bullshit limit has been exceeded! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #46
In our caucus, a woman speaking for Hillary said mountain grammy Mar 2016 #53

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. Punish by voting for the other party.
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 03:20 PM
Mar 2016

I.e., to toss your own bums out. Or at minimum by staying home and not voting. Then, next time vote for better people from your own party and toss the others out. YOU ARE NEEDED! There is nothing more guaranteed to force change.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
29. Nothing will force change it seems
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 03:34 PM
Mar 2016

The repressive reaction to the Sanders challenge is looking like evidence of that.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
4. It's amazing how many Democrats have drunk the 'Hillary is more electable' Kool-Aid,
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 02:05 PM
Mar 2016

when in reality, polls have consistently shown the opposite: that Bernie's not only a far better Democrat than Shillary, he's also much more electable.

It's the media doing, no doubt about it.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
5. Glad you finally realize it. Some us didn't have the heart to tell you.
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 02:05 PM
Mar 2016

It's awkward. Kind of like halitosis.

Illegitimi non carborundum, FS!

Happenstance24

(193 posts)
13. Back alley abortions, end of the middle class, guns everywhere, corps having even more power...
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 02:19 PM
Mar 2016

The Supreme Court is the end game. Presidents come and go every 4-8 years. SC justices last 40 years +. This "revolution" should have turned toward the SC the second Scalia died.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
43. Your candidate opposed my right to marry just 3 years ago and she's supposed to be my champion?
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 03:47 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie is my champion, not the woman who edits bits out of the Bible to attack me with when stroking the folks at Rick Warren's Megachurch.
If Hillary had planned on running as a civil rights champion, she ought not have been a civil rights opponents. Her supporters just seem bigoted and selfish and rich, half of them strut around here wearing the rhetorical version of top hat and monocle 'listen to me, my wife and I are wealthy'. So really, you are full of stink.

Happenstance24

(193 posts)
51. I don't care if Bernie
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 04:02 PM
Mar 2016

is your champion. I'm not trying to stop you from voting Bernie. Go vote for him. I care about those who say they will sit out the general when he loses.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
14. Translated: "My cynical, pessimistic view of humanity...
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 02:20 PM
Mar 2016

... makes me afraid to stick to my principles and vote according to my conscience instead of taking the easy way out and following the conventional wisdom."

And who, by the way, is defining that conventional wisdom?

Is it the will of the people? Or is it the dictate of Big Money and its bullhorn, Big Media?

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
17. There is very little in Hillary's stated proposals that improve the future lives of regular citizens
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 02:45 PM
Mar 2016

Nothing that wasn't already proposed by Bernie Sanders ...

The 'future', as defined by Bernie's proposed policies, is a FAR more optimistic place than Hillary's 'NO WE CAN'T' can ever offer ..

One might wonder why someone would even claim such a thing .. Hillary has a positive vision of the future state of the middle class? ... hardly ...

NO WE CAN'T? ... I don't think that's a positive, optimistic stance, and I'm sure most rational people would agree that Hillary's offers the LEAST positive policies for regular citizens ...

Loudestlib

(980 posts)
50. I'll tell anyone that will listen.
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 04:00 PM
Mar 2016

I'll also tell them that if a candidate runs a dirty primary campaign, attacks her opponents supporters, and deflects questions, that candidate may win the primary but they'll lose a chunk of the base and the GE.

Pyrrhic victory.

kath

(10,565 posts)
10. put me down too as "one of many people who has just fucking had enough (pardon my language) and
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 02:15 PM
Mar 2016

and reached his/her limit of bullshit".

Enough is enough is fucking ENOUGH.
And fuck all the DLC/ThirdWay/TrojanHorse assholes who infiltrated the party of FDR.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
15. How dare you!
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 02:24 PM
Mar 2016

Didn't your parents teach you that having high principles and humane values was
selfish in the extreme?





Martin Eden

(12,878 posts)
16. This will be my 11th POTUS election as a voter
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 02:45 PM
Mar 2016

More often than not, I've cast my vote AGAINST the Republican rather than FOR a candidate I truly believed in -- and even then I was disappointed after my guy won.

I'm bloody sick of voting for the "lesser evil."

Nevertheless, if Hillary is the nominee and my home state of Illinois has even a remote chance of flipping to whomever emerges from the Rethug clown car, I'll hold my nose and vote for HRC because REAL PEOPLE will suffer far worse consequences with an R in the White House.

If I thought that disaster would somehow lead to the kind of political revolution that would make things better in the long run I would consider not lifting a finger to keep the likes of Trump from becoming president, but I have no confidence in that kind of positive backlash.

Hopefully, President sanders will be inaugurated next January and we won't have to endure another Rethug misleading our country.

Vinca

(50,313 posts)
20. And dreamers.
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 03:16 PM
Mar 2016

Our ideas have no chance of succeeding. Wonder how many people told JFK we couldn't get to the moon?

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
23. the corporate owned media
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 03:23 PM
Mar 2016

support Her Royal Highness because, if she is the Dem nominee, then it doesn't matter to the Greedy Bastards who wins the general election...I thought intelligent Dems had already figured that out...

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
24. It's highly amusing to find people who cry "purists" usually demand we be "pure" Democrats
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 03:26 PM
Mar 2016

and vote for anyone with a (D) label behind their name.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
36. except that MANY of us are not Dems
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 03:39 PM
Mar 2016

we're indys who have registered a Dems in order to vote for Bernie - that's it. So this "be a good Dem" stuff REALLY won't work on us.

Jackilope

(819 posts)
27. Count me the same. We could have things so much better.
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 03:32 PM
Mar 2016

I feel beaten up for having the audacity to want a better Democratic candidate. (One that isn't sold out, a corporate and Wall St. shill, and a war hawk. Not too much to ask for as a Democratic candidate.)

So no, copying up with the tormentors isn't an effective tactic or motivating force for me.

I stand with you.

kath

(10,565 posts)
47. "Give up so easily"?!? Hell, the DLC/ThirdWay assholes have been serving us shit for DECADES and we
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 03:51 PM
Mar 2016

have had enough. We put up with it for a long time, but we aren't going to do it any more.
Fuck the corporate wing of our once-great Party.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
48. Life is tough, it'll be tougher under Trump. Just give up and see how you feel in 10 years.
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 03:52 PM
Mar 2016

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Samantha

(9,314 posts)
40. Take a break and do something you love -- at least for a couple of days
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 03:44 PM
Mar 2016

Hopefully it will be something that will incorporate physical exertion. Listen to music you love. Watch a movie you have really been wanting to see but missed because you were posting here. Take long walks. Call an old friend you really care about but have neglected. Eat good food and catch up on your rest. Read that great book you have had on your nightstand for forever.

Do not visit DU no matter how much you are tempted. Turn it off and let your brain and your blood pressure rest. When you have reached the point you feel you are your normal self again (whatever that is Flying Squirrel!!!!) come back and once again start raising holy hell!!! We will miss you but we know you will return as a new and improved version, and we will start calling you "Rocky."

Take care.

Sam

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
44. How long have you been a racist?
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 03:47 PM
Mar 2016

I've been a racist since I opposed Obama's continuing NSA spaying.

Before that, when Bush the Frat Boy did it, it was OK to oppose NSA spying and even regard it as grounds for impeachment.

mountain grammy

(26,656 posts)
53. In our caucus, a woman speaking for Hillary said
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 04:09 PM
Mar 2016

She has so much foreign policy experience, and, with Bill, it's like getting 2 for 1...

I said it's precisely America's failed foreign policy that has me supporting Bernie Sanders. More of the same intervention and aggression from Hillary, protecting the interests of corporations. Let's give peace a chance. As a Sec of State, I think Kerry has been far more effective.

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