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I dislike Hillary (like the majority of Americans according to cnn) but this is silly. boomer55 Mar 2016 #1
All I can say is if it were Cornel West doing this instead of Bill Clinton, Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #2
That's for goddamn sure. Nyan Mar 2016 #3
her husband was at a polling place with a bullhorn iAZZZo Mar 2016 #16
He did nothing wrong, and it was confirmed by the Secy of State of MA yesterday afternoon. George II Mar 2016 #71
Who said just shaking hands was not illegal 2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #80
Well, there are reports that people couldn't vote because of his disruption. cui bono Mar 2016 #14
LOL. I hope this is a joke. If not, how embarrassing. nt BreakfastClub Mar 2016 #4
I'm even embarrassed for him DianaForRussFeingold Mar 2016 #11
No joke marions ghost Mar 2016 #44
A bullhorn and whatever he's holding, just to shake hands? Sleaze Incorporated. merrily Mar 2016 #5
let's see what we can get away with before the indictments are delivered (n/t) iAZZZo Mar 2016 #17
He should be "Tar and Feathered" in a public forum. aspirant Mar 2016 #6
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #7
I absoluely LOVE ... Optimism Mar 2016 #8
I'm embarrassed for him renate Mar 2016 #9
I hope he pushes it so far that no one can possibly ignore it. senz Mar 2016 #87
the whole world is watching olddots Mar 2016 #10
This is the rankest garbage ever, Clinton Derangement Syndrome at its worst. Hekate Mar 2016 #12
Are you against the petition or are you against fair elections? n/t cui bono Mar 2016 #15
I saw that one. The level of ugliness gets worse each hour. riversedge Mar 2016 #27
Yep. Supreme nastiness. sufrommich Mar 2016 #28
There is VIDEO of Clinton doing this. beac Mar 2016 #50
whatever are you talking about? yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #70
You don't think people should be held responsible for their actions? senz Mar 2016 #85
Hmmm...with so much attention on MA and Bill, MSNBC should have noticed WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2016 #13
Really. The media had better not ignore this. senz Mar 2016 #88
This is some petty shit. Chicago1980 Mar 2016 #18
Does it have to? demwing Mar 2016 #19
The attorney general seemed fine with it. nt Codeine Mar 2016 #31
Yeah go figure 2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #81
I dont know...how many could have voted in the 2 hours SwampG8r Mar 2016 #29
Exactly. If even one person was prevented from voting it is wrong. beac Mar 2016 #54
Desperation youceyec Mar 2016 #20
'BANKERS FOR HILLARY' in background BWAHAHAHAHAHA tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #21
GREAT PICTURE!!! Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #53
My MEME on Facebook Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #59
Nice! marions ghost Mar 2016 #63
It does... Agschmid Mar 2016 #73
simple answer Thespian2 Mar 2016 #22
Shared it in social media. socialistforpeople Mar 2016 #23
People should stop pretending they live in a country where the laws apply to the oligarchs and Karmadillo Mar 2016 #24
Sharing on social media. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #25
Election officials have already ruled on this but cry on liberal N proud Mar 2016 #26
Actually, no. Last night, shey said they had received no complaints "so far." beac Mar 2016 #37
22k have signed by now, and they're shooting for 25k. Seems like they could probably shoot for a Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2016 #30
If he's guilty, isn't the person holding the bankers for Hillary sign also guilty? onenote Mar 2016 #32
Yes. And two wrongs don't make a right. beac Mar 2016 #41
Yeah the laws must be pretty lax in MA marions ghost Mar 2016 #49
Are you assuming the "Bankers for Hillary" sign was a sarcastic endorsement against her? GummyBearz Mar 2016 #67
EIther way, it would seem to violate the restriction on electioneering onenote Mar 2016 #72
I completely agree... the picture shows 2 people promoting hillary GummyBearz Mar 2016 #77
ROTFL. Agschmid Mar 2016 #75
26,976 tk2kewl Mar 2016 #33
Surely whoever was waving the "BANKERS FOR HILLARY" sign should also go to prison? Nye Bevan Mar 2016 #34
Surely, you aren't saying that what Clinton did is right because beac Mar 2016 #42
I'm sure a team of prosecutors is meeting right now on this, Nye Bevan Mar 2016 #43
Wow, you are a real comedian. beac Mar 2016 #47
Actually, its probably a closer call on what Clinton did onenote Mar 2016 #74
Well I, for one, am on record here and elsewhere saying what the signholder did was wrong too. beac Mar 2016 #79
What is the typical punishment for this? -nt Bradical79 Mar 2016 #35
LOL! MaggieD Mar 2016 #36
The trial will be conducted via Skype, and the jury will vote with a Twitter poll Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #38
You guys should totally petition Sanders to add this sufrommich Mar 2016 #39
Yes, an ex-President violating election laws and preventing beac Mar 2016 #45
Whiners.. asuhornets Mar 2016 #40
Good. Grief. If you did that, by the way, it would backfire for Sanders. Zynx Mar 2016 #46
Oh yes it would marions ghost Mar 2016 #51
Which is exactly why Clinton knew he could do this and get away with it. beac Mar 2016 #52
Are you kidding me with this? So you wouldn't mind it if Jane Sanders flew over to MA and did this? Nyan Mar 2016 #60
Over 29,000 have signed now. n/t PonyUp Mar 2016 #48
LOL.. is this the Onion?? DCBob Mar 2016 #55
Laws do not apply to the 1% and the 1% know it: Bill Clinton breaks the law with impunity & hubris. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #56
So, one cannot wear a Political T-Shirt fredamae Mar 2016 #57
He's taunting Bernie and his supporters. Nyan Mar 2016 #58
Comedy gold Dem2 Mar 2016 #61
You guys are hilarious. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #62
If they can't beat her in the primary, get payback by sending her husband to prison! (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2016 #66
"Bankers For Hillary". That sign says it all. Ridiculous. n/t PonyUp Mar 2016 #64
This is the kind of shit that goes on in Russia. pangaia Mar 2016 #65
We should probably include an online poll with our online petition Godhumor Mar 2016 #68
This is proof they are not above stealing elections. senz Mar 2016 #69
OMFG!!!! A SCOFFLAW. Oh noes... nt COLGATE4 Mar 2016 #76
The word means a criminal who laughs at the law. senz Mar 2016 #84
36,189 signers so far. panader0 Mar 2016 #78
He escapes, black dude would be shot. oldandhappy Mar 2016 #82
Isn't he guy who told people to "work hard and...play by the rules''? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #83
Shark Jump. Darb Mar 2016 #86
I SENT AN EMAIL snowy owl Mar 2016 #89
 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
2. All I can say is if it were Cornel West doing this instead of Bill Clinton,
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:07 AM
Mar 2016

campaigning for Bernie instead of Hillary, I don't think he would have gotten away with it.

Nyan

(1,192 posts)
3. That's for goddamn sure.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:09 AM
Mar 2016

The Clintons must be really desperate. She's sent her husband to the polling place with a bullhorn?

 

iAZZZo

(358 posts)
16. her husband was at a polling place with a bullhorn
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:31 AM
Mar 2016

the name "hillary" was mentioned no less than two times

Brian McNiff, spokesman for the Secretary of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, says shaking hands alone isn't prohibited. Explicit campaigning is what's banned within 150 feet of a polling places.

"Just meeting people doesn't constitute campaigning," McNiff told CNN. "We received no information that anything like that happened." http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/01/politics/bill-clinton-campaigning-polling-place-super-tuesday/index.html


let this be repeated again to the "spokesman for the Secretary of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts," with emphasis:

her husband was at a polling place with a bullhorn. the name "hillary" was mentioned no less than two times
 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
80. Who said just shaking hands was not illegal
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:23 PM
Mar 2016

You think he was just saying hi on that bullhorn? In a Bernie rich district? Keeping people from voting for two hours? It was purposeful attempt at manipulating the outcome of an election.

Laws apparently do not apply to the Clintons.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
14. Well, there are reports that people couldn't vote because of his disruption.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 04:43 AM
Mar 2016

Up to two hours of not being able to vote. Plus it's illegal to electioneer within 150' of a polling place in MA.



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Optimism

(142 posts)
8. I absoluely LOVE ...
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 04:13 AM
Mar 2016

... that bright yellow sign over his shoulder, "Bankers for Hillary". TOO funny (if it weren't so true and sad).

renate

(13,776 posts)
9. I'm embarrassed for him
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 04:17 AM
Mar 2016

Before, I was pissed. And I'll be pissed again because he has no self-restraint and I'm sure he'll embarrass himself again.

(Let me just interrupt myself to say that I do not hold Hillary responsible for Bill's behavior.)

But a former president of the United States holding a bullhorn at a polling place, where he knows damn well (do not tell me Bill Clinton doesn't know politics inside and out) that it is not permissible to campaign, to try to convince people to vote a certain way... that's just pitiful.

How the mighty have fallen.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
12. This is the rankest garbage ever, Clinton Derangement Syndrome at its worst.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 04:36 AM
Mar 2016

If I couldn't see that this is a "Democratic" site, I would have thought I'd strayed into FR, especially after seeing the OP that claimed former President Bill Clinton has Alzheimer's.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
28. Yep. Supreme nastiness.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 07:41 AM
Mar 2016

It will have the opposite effect on everyone but the most fanatical Sanders supporters.

beac

(9,992 posts)
50. There is VIDEO of Clinton doing this.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:16 AM
Mar 2016

What is "deranged" about recorded proof than an ex-President violated election laws and prevented people from voting because of his security and media detail?

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
85. You don't think people should be held responsible for their actions?
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:39 PM
Mar 2016

I'm a Democrat. Does that mean I can break the law with impunity? Does it mean I can interfere with elections? Is the "D" after a politician's name a get out of jail free card?

Chicago1980

(1,968 posts)
18. This is some petty shit.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:42 AM
Mar 2016

Real petty.

Did his proximity prevent 20,000 people (which was the tally that separated Clinton from Sanders) from voting?

SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
29. I dont know...how many could have voted in the 2 hours
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 07:52 AM
Mar 2016

That no one could vote because of his shenanigans?

beac

(9,992 posts)
54. Exactly. If even one person was prevented from voting it is wrong.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:21 AM
Mar 2016

I am shocked to see DEMOCRATS saying that people being denied their chance to vote is no big deal.

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
22. simple answer
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:57 AM
Mar 2016

Bubba will stoop to any illegal activity to get to live in the White House...and soak his ass in the hot tub...such a POS...

23. Shared it in social media.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 06:35 AM
Mar 2016

To those HRC supporters saying it's silly, any genuine reason or fact for why? Because I read the Mass. law in terms of violation in the voting place and it's even posted in the petition letter. And it's obvious he violated it. Guess what? that's considered a felony.

Karmadillo

(9,253 posts)
24. People should stop pretending they live in a country where the laws apply to the oligarchs and
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 07:18 AM
Mar 2016

their political servants.

beac

(9,992 posts)
37. Actually, no. Last night, shey said they had received no complaints "so far."
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:06 AM
Mar 2016

I imagine they HAVE received complaints by now as there is now VIDEO proof that he was engaging in electioneering within 150 feet of a polling place.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
30. 22k have signed by now, and they're shooting for 25k. Seems like they could probably shoot for a
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 08:11 AM
Mar 2016

higher target.

beac

(9,992 posts)
41. Yes. And two wrongs don't make a right.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:07 AM
Mar 2016

Also, the sign holder didn't hold up voting for HOURS by holding his sign.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
49. Yeah the laws must be pretty lax in MA
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:14 AM
Mar 2016

Where I live there would be strong objection at the time from election officials. Wonder why they were were so passive--just blindsided, I guess.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
67. Are you assuming the "Bankers for Hillary" sign was a sarcastic endorsement against her?
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:11 AM
Mar 2016

She has received more money from individual bankers than any other professional group. Why don't you think this is a legit Hillary supporting banker who is trying to get his message out? That is 2 strikes against her in one picture.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
72. EIther way, it would seem to violate the restriction on electioneering
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:49 AM
Mar 2016

"no person shall solicit votes for or against, or otherwise promote or oppose, any person or political
party"

Do you disagree?

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
34. Surely whoever was waving the "BANKERS FOR HILLARY" sign should also go to prison?
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 09:59 AM
Mar 2016

Because that seems like blatant electioneering, too.

beac

(9,992 posts)
42. Surely, you aren't saying that what Clinton did is right because
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:09 AM
Mar 2016

someone else did the same wrong thing?

They both should be charged. Election laws exist for a reason and NO ONE is above the law.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
43. I'm sure a team of prosecutors is meeting right now on this,
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:10 AM
Mar 2016

poring over the video footage, and planning on swooping in to make arrests.

beac

(9,992 posts)
47. Wow, you are a real comedian.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:14 AM
Mar 2016

Glad you find it so amusing that an ex-President blatantly violated election law and prevented people from voting.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
74. Actually, its probably a closer call on what Clinton did
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:52 AM
Mar 2016

In terms of the letter of the law.
But my question back to you is why all of the outrage seems directed at one alleged violation, but not at the other?

beac

(9,992 posts)
79. Well I, for one, am on record here and elsewhere saying what the signholder did was wrong too.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:20 PM
Mar 2016

I think the outrage comes from the fact that not only did Clinton violate the law, but he held up the voting process for hours in doing so.

(Never mind that the influence of a former President with a bullhorn is infinitely higher than one unknown guy with a homemade sign.)

As to your point about the letter of the law, the sign was silent and could only be seen by those nearby. Clinton's bullhorn could be heard up and down the street. But both used the word "Hillary" and that's what made it a violation. Both were wrong and both should be held accountable. NO ONE is above the law.

beac

(9,992 posts)
45. Yes, an ex-President violating election laws and preventing
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:12 AM
Mar 2016

citizens from voting is just HILARIOUS, isn't it?? So worth your scorn and derision.

I really cannot believe you all are defending his behavior.

And before you trot out the "but the signholder behind him!" nonsense, I am already on record that that person was also in violation.

Zynx

(21,328 posts)
46. Good. Grief. If you did that, by the way, it would backfire for Sanders.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:13 AM
Mar 2016

Most people don't give a crap about these sorts of things and charging a former president who is generally beloved by his party would do no good for Sanders.

beac

(9,992 posts)
52. Which is exactly why Clinton knew he could do this and get away with it.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:18 AM
Mar 2016

He believes himself above the law and, sadly, he probably is.

That is not democracy and it is a sad statement about our country.

Nyan

(1,192 posts)
60. Are you kidding me with this? So you wouldn't mind it if Jane Sanders flew over to MA and did this?
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:38 AM
Mar 2016

Tell me. Would you say the same if Jane Sanders did this with bullhorn in her hands, blocking people from voting?

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
57. So, one cannot wear a Political T-Shirt
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:27 AM
Mar 2016

and/or carry a Sign....but an ICON who is the Face of said Celebrity can be there in person?
Interesting.
The optics are just plain shitty to Use a "loop-hole" instead of taking the high road.
That's how I see it.

Nyan

(1,192 posts)
58. He's taunting Bernie and his supporters.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:34 AM
Mar 2016

He knows he's gonna get away with it.
He would probably laugh at it if he saw people's petition.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
65. This is the kind of shit that goes on in Russia.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:52 AM
Mar 2016

The Clintons know exactly what they are doing, and know they will get away with it. They KNOW the boundaries beyond and over which who will see what. Where is that grey area... how grey...

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
68. We should probably include an online poll with our online petition
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:15 AM
Mar 2016

So "they" know just how serious we are about this.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
69. This is proof they are not above stealing elections.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:28 AM
Mar 2016

They'll do whatever they can to get what they want - laws be damned.

The Bernie campaign should watch voting very carefully from here on out. Their opponent is a scofflaw who will cheat.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
84. The word means a criminal who laughs at the law.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:36 PM
Mar 2016

We're talking ugly here: criminal, sleazy.

You like that? Seriously?

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
83. Isn't he guy who told people to "work hard and...play by the rules''?
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:32 PM
Mar 2016

The rich have different rules than the rest of us.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
89. I SENT AN EMAIL
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:44 PM
Mar 2016

I sent an email to an address I got off DU and so far this is all I've gotten back:

Your e-mail has been forwarded to the following division:
Elections Division
Secretary of the Commonwealth
One Ashburton Place, Room 1705
Boston, MA 02108-1513
Tel: 617-727-2828
Toll Free: 1-800-462-VOTE (8683) (within Mass. only)
Fax: 617-742-3238
www.sec.state.ma.us/ele/eleidx.htm
E-mail: [email protected]

CIS

I'm in the NW and said so but decried the undue influence Clinton exerted when he broke the law and seemed to get away with it. I hope others will send emails. Why should an elite like Clinton break the law and get away with it? It's more of the same and is just more corruption to the voting process.

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