I think the Sanders supporters need to take a long, hard look at their attitude on the electorate...

[brooklynite]

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by azurnoir (a host of the 2016 Postmortem forum).

In the past few days, as it became more obvious that Clinton will have a huge win tonight, the commentary by Sanders' supporters has bordered on ugliness: South Carolina is a "Confederate Red State" - never mind that 2/3 of the Democratic voters are African American. African American voters have a "Master/Slave relationship." The State is "dumb". All because real Democrats don't see the apparent superiority of their candidate.

If Sanders is going to have the remotest hope of winning the nomination, he's going to have to substantively change the way large swaths of the Democratic electorate view him. If his supporters (at least those here) are reflective of how his campaign's volunteers are approaching prospective voters, I'm thinking they've got an insurmountable hill to climb.

[LexVegas]

1. The marginalization of African Americans is a new tactic.nt

[FreakinDJ]

110. Actually the Clintons mastered the art of marginalizing African American voters

In 1994, Bill Clinton passed the now-infamous crime bill, which even he has since admitted led to the mass incarceration problem we have today. The bill allocated an additional $30.2 billion for new state prisons, implemented harsher prison sentences, and created the three-strikes law, since adopted in 20 states, that mandates a life sentence after a third violent crime. Before the bill became law, Hillary Clinton was stumping ferociously for its passage:

“We will finally be able to say, loudly and clearly, that for repeat, violent, criminal offenders: three strikes and you’re out. We are tired of putting you back in through the revolving door,” First Lady Clinton had said.

http://usuncut.com/politics/black-lives-shattered-how-the-clintons-built-their-empire-on-white-supremacy/

[mcar]

2. K&R

[grossproffit]

3. Slips are starting to show. I'm gutted over these posts.

[Madam Mossfern]

4. I think you meant to say

"a couple of Sanders supporters."
Right?

[LexVegas]

5. Lot of recs on those threads.nt

[kstewart33]

7. More than a couple. nt

[Hekate]

64. Nope. There's a YUUUUUGE number of Recs and attaboys on those threads.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

76. I'm hoping it's just a few. Bernie would be pissed off if he saw some of his "supporters" comments.

Hillary also has some "supporters" that aren't too helpful to her. The reason I put quotes around the word supporters is that sometimes I wonder if they are actually supporters of the other candidate, Republicans, or trolls.

Sanders supporters the "hero" worship is a turn off - he is a politician and a person- not a God (we've seen this type of phenomena before) it will only lead to cynicism and heartbreak on your part because he CANNOT be perfect throughout this campaign or potential Presidency? Stop demonizing any person (formerly beloved black, white, Hispanic, media members) who supports Clinton. Clinton supporters stop telling people to "get in line" or "step in place," etc. or gloat. Sanders is an underdog and it's tough to be a supporter of an underdog.

If either candidate should win, they need the other candidates supporter's votes and support. We cannot have a President Trump. We already had 8 years of Bush, 12 years of Republicans) and that was a disaster environmentally and economically.

[JimDandy]

77. Exactly. He is going to the convention with the support of millions of good people.

Anonymous opinion on the internet needs to be taken with a yooge dose of scepticism.

[DrDan]

99. 22 recs right now - certainly more than a couple

[SoLeftIAmRight]

6. Hello

I think this is a sad racist diatribe.

[Kall]

51. Yep.

[Hekate]

66. Parse it out. You've missed the point by a mile.

[MissDeeds]

87. Really cringe worthy

But not surprising

[joshcryer]

8. Anyone have the results for that thread?

2-5 keep. I alerted on it but it was already juried.

[SidDithers]

31. Me too...nt

Sid

[Jbradshaw120]

9. I think both sides need to remember

That neither can accomplish anything without the other. No issues of concern to blacks will get addressed without the suport white liberals and the same is true for white liberals can not address their concerns without the suport of POC. My biggest concern this time around is the driving of the wedge between these to key elements of the Democratic Party base.

[noretreatnosurrender]

15. I agree

I'm concerned about that too. It's very short sighted.

[MisterP]

50. it's usual Rahmist politicking: you tell the South Side the North has it out for them

and ask the North "can you BELIEVE what the South Side's been saying about you?!"

it only works as long as we don't compare notes

[andrewv1]

52. I disagree with that completely....Sanders is bringing in new supporters &....

Clinton is not.

In fact looking at the polling data, younger voters and independents support Sanders.

That means Clinton needs that support but I don't think it's as much the other way.

[Jbradshaw120]

73. I respectfully disagree.

This isn't so much clinton vs sanders (full disclosure I'm an ardent sanders supporter) but of we split the white liberal vote from the POC vote neither is strong enough on its own to win. That's fact. I personally never not voted for the dem nominee have several times came close to opposing clinton should she win based on how they are treating my beliefs and hopes.

[99th_Monkey]

10. Your 'concern' is duly noted, and probably not entirely unjustified.

Regardless of who ones candidate is, all supporters need to heed your wise advice IMHO, to be
"reflective" re: how our words, or the way we frame things, may reflect on our candidate, for
good or for ill.

[gwheezie]

11. And it's why Bernie will lose the south

I live in rova, the rest of Virginia, he's not even bothering here. Maybe up north he is, I doubt in Hampton roads. He doesn't have a message that is appealing to dem voters where I live.
Now maybe his best tactic is to have his supporters call us stupid or fascists.

[Raine1967]

113. I never heard of ROVA, before. I am up in NOVA and

he hasn't been to Virginia at all.

I kinda like the term ROVA.

I live in a pretty progressive area of the city of Alexandria and I am not seeing a lot of signs for either Hillary or Bernie.

One thing I will say, I am not impressed with the advocacy of his supporters. I'm undecided right now and have some great conversations with friends about this.

At a certain point, and I really believe this, a politician's campaign is responsible for the tone its supporters take.

I remember watching John McCain's campaign go off the rails after he chose his VP Nominee. When he finally had to confront the meanness, the divisiveness: it was too late. it was this moment:

Sometimes I wonder if Sanders is not realizing what his supporters are doing to his campaign and I wonder if it is too late.

[phylny]

116. I've gotten a few calls (one to canvass in Roanoke),

there are some signs for Bernie (none for Hillary) but the only commercials I've seen on TV are for Trump, Cruz, and Rubio. To be honest, in my area (central Virginia) I can't blame any Dem for not advertising. It's a big swath of red here, and it's not going to change without changing the districts.

[gwheezie]

121. I live in red state VA too

My county is full of teabags but ironically the only sign I've seen is for kasich.

[jillan]

12. I think you need to stop trying to tell people what to do.

[wildeyed]

55. I think you need to stop telling people

to stop telling people what to do.

[0rganism]

13. i think the Sanders and Clinton supporters need to take a look at the turnout numbers

granted the Democratic primary has boiled down to 2 candidates while the GOP is still rocking 5, but even so, they're smoking us in every primary so far. the DNC needs to take this very seriously or it's not going to matter who we put up in the general, they'll have, as you say, an insurmountable hill to climb.

[restorefreedom]

23. if you havent yet, this should be its own op

we are getting completely smoked in turnout, and the repubs are positively giddy about their turnout, as they should be, and what it means.

personally, i think dws and the corrupt dnc has a lot to answer for in terms of these low turnouts. but it warrants a full and passionate discussion.

dems are looking to have their butts royally kicked in the ge, and downtickets as well.

[0rganism]

25. agree - this is important

i'll make an op for it

[restorefreedom]

27. excellent! nt

[0rganism]

34. op generated

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511355932

unfortunately, i didn't include any anti-candidate snark, so i expect it to sink quickly.

[restorefreedom]

40. just visited it. we gotta keep it kicked! this is the story! great job! nt

[Ed Suspicious]

43. The DNC is set on Hillary or a Republican. They'd rather have H, but a Republican allows them to

live to fight another day.


The whole thing is such horseshit.

[Chicago1980]

58. Your comment is just plain foolish.

The DNC is set on Hillary "Or a Republican"?

You've got to be kidding me...

This is the type of rhetoric we don't need.

Don't be sour about this.

[malletgirl02]

14. Those post are wrong

however you apparently have no problems with post that are dismissive of Sanders supporters. There was even a thread comparing Bernie Sanders supporters to members of the Red Guard during the Cultural Revolution in China.

[sufrommich]

17. You don't think there's a difference between that and stating that

a whole state needs to be ignored because of it's master/slave past?

[malletgirl02]

20. No there is no difference

Both slavery and Cultural Revolution was a terrible times in history. Both posts are wrong.

[Cobalt Violet]

16. I think you need to stop nagging Sanders supporters.

[Hortensis]

18. Radicals never have won the presidency, tho, because

large swaths of the electorate simply don't want them. Although, I agree entirely with your thread, I don't think he could fix that, no matter what, because it goes to who HE is.

Bernie attracted radical lefters, including black, because of who he is and repelled non-radicals, including blacks, because of who he is. Yes, he could try harder, but honestly I think he chose not to add distractions to his message to draw in black and other minorities because he wants to press an undiluted message to the nation. He is a radical ideologue, and righteousness, superiority, narrow paths, and passion are all part of that. He doesn't have time to, as someone here said, "pander" to those who won't get it.


This article, inspired by Bernie's campaign, is about what happened to all his predecessors.
[

b]How radical Left-wing US presidential candidates have fared
As Bernie Sanders threatens to derail Hillary Clinton’s procession to the Democratic nomination, the historical precedent suggests that US voters are unlikely to back a radical candidate

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-politics/11721097/How-radical-Left-wing-US-presidential-candidates-have-fared.html

[TTUBatfan2008]

49. He's not that radical

Both parties have been pulled way too far to the right.

[malletgirl02]

53. In Europe

Bernie Sanders would just be another center-left politician. The fact that he is considered a radical is a sad indictment of politics in the U.S.

[Hortensis]

97. First, we are not Europe. We are different.

Second, Bernie's radicalism is part of his personality, and his ideology arises from that. Europe also has radicals who are outside the mainstream. A European Bernie would never just be centrist anything. He would always want "more" than the mainstream was willing to embrace. It is always hard sledding for radicals, even when they are on the right side of history in the long run.

[Hortensis]

86. No, agree. There are American groups supposedlyto Bernie's left, but

a mistake some followers make is wanting to believe that it isn't that he and they are left of the liberal maInstram but that it is liberals who are, exactly as you say, to the right.

Reality is, all liberals are at least solidly left these days, most "mainstream" left, and Bernie is significantly farther left, out of the mainstream. This business of insisting we are really conservative is a way of insulting us for some and fooling themselves for many.

Note that Bernie is famously proud of being far left and of not being part of the mainstream left. He would no doubt hit that more if it werent a bad idea in a national election.

[snowy owl]

65. what What about FDR when he told the American People he welcomed their hate?

Referring to the top tier and corporations. Was he a radical? Did the people elect him?

[Hekate]

101. People forget that FDR was speaking to his own social & economic class when he said that...

FDR was no outsider, NOT AT ALL. The Roosevelts were New York upper crust establishment for generations.

And no, he was not a radical in the way you wish. He did know where the levers of power were, and he knew how to move them. Yes, he was elected 4 times. He was the right man for the times.

[OrwellwasRight]

71. Except that Bernie is not radical.

Every single one of his positions was a mainstream Dem position from FDR to Carter. Only Bill Clinton abandoned these ideas and now that allows you to portray them as radical. Sad day for the Democratic Party.

[pangaia]

109. Bernie is.... RADICAL?? LEFT WING??

WHAT?????????????


jesus on a stick !!!

[malletgirl02]

119. It is best not the waste your time

with that poster. Other posters and I tried to explain that Sanders was not a radical and she keeps on saying that he is. It shows how much our politics have moved to the right that anyone would think Bernie Sanders is a radical.

[cherokeeprogressive]

19. Y.A.W.N.

[Lucinda]

21. KNR

[TheCowsCameHome]

22. Keep driving that wedge.

You're only hurting your own candidate come GE time.

[LWolf]

24. Clinton supporters always seem to have special criticisms and advice

for Sanders supporters.

Reeks of disdain and patronization.

[Luminous Animal]

26. Day after day after day after day. The nagging is frickin' tedious.

[Purveyor]

35. Oh tut, tut...

[Marr]

28. Sanders supporters aren't the ones excusing 'bring them to heel' type comments.

Sanders supporters aren't the ones who brush off the racist campaign Hillary ran in 2008, or try to defend 'Welfare Reform' and a hundred other small and not-so-small attacks on the working class and the poor.

The only thing Hillary Clinton and her supporters have to teach on this topic is how to lie, how to cover up a candidate's racist campaign history, and how to somehow not gag at their own revolting hypocrisy when they suggest their opponent is the one with low character.

[SidDithers]

29. DU rec...

but it won't happen.

Sid

[Warren DeMontague]

30. Sure. And Hillary's surrogates should stop condescending to millennials & lecturing legal pot states

[Chicago1980]

60. Where were millennial in 2010 and 2014?

I'm not much older than millennial, but where were they when needed?

[Warren DeMontague]

62. Good question.

Perhaps you should take a look at the states where our party actually did well in 2014, for instance, and then ask yourself that question again in the context of my previous post.

http://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/news/politics/elections/2014/08/20/democratic-party-supports-marijuana-legalization-gmo-labeling/14359551/

[Chicago1980]

68. That's not a good enough reason.

2010 is when the census was taken and when the congressional districts were redrawn.

[Warren DeMontague]

80. Uh, I think it is a good enough reason. Namely, when the party's values align with the voters

particularly young ones, they are motivated to come out and vote.

I don't know why paying attention to places where our party actually has been doing WELL even in off years would be a controversial notion.

[TM99]

32. Hypocrisy is thy name Clinton supporters.

Yeah, New Hampshire does not really count because they are just a majority white state that borders Vermont. Hell they might as well BE Vermont.

Yeah, Iowa is just white people. What really counts are those southern states full of blacks and those western states full of Hispanics.

Yeah, the youth vote doesn't really matter. They are just lazy and want free shit. Besides they will never turn out for the important elections.

Get off your high horses. Clear the motes from your own eyes before you start going after ours.

SC is a small southern conservative state. It will not go blue in the GE. It only offers up around 53 delegates. Most of y'all were complaining about Confederate flags and racists after the Charleston shooting. The bullshit about southerners then was appalling. And now y'all think you can crow on and on about how horrible Sanders supporters are en mass just because ONE fucking OP was made about dismissing the SC voters?

[JustAMaverick]

33. With all respect, it is you who mis-percieve the situation in a dangerous way.

South Carolina is irrelevent...I don't have to prove it to you, you will see in just a couple days how unimportant this state is. Instant history of a small violently red state that even Jesus could not be elected in if he ran democratic. A electorate easily swayed because their poverty prevents them from communicating via social media. They are captive to the TV and what it tells them. They truly are merely sheep to the slaughter.

But if you haven't noticed, I will point out two undeniable facts. First, as far as Bernie supporters go, they see Hillary as the anti-candidate. They believe she stands for everything they oppose. If Hillary does get the nomination you are foolish if you believe that majority of Sanders supporters will switch support for Hillary in the main. That means no matter what happens...Hillary and the country lose. That is the way of it my friend. For us who see the world as it is...enough is enough and the lesser of evils is how we have gotten so far down this road to hell.

The second point is Bernie has just taken the lead nationally...in multiple polls. It is Hillary supporters that for the good of the party need to start thinking about supporting Bernie and the Revolution.

Any other conclusion is unjustified and potentially politically suicidal. Bernie or bust.....

[mythology]

83. Wait, poverty prevents people from using Facebook or Twitter?

Social media is free. All you need is the internet.

[grasswire]

36. RIDICULOUS

Your candidate is the candidate most opposed to the good of the electorate; she is owned by interests that are the rapists of the poor and the decimators of the middle class.

Absolutely ridiculous, your assertion.

[Gothmog]

37. The post your are referencing is sad

[Barack_America]

38. You are suggesting a thread by one person is generalizable to ALL?

Kind of pot calling the kettle black there.

[brooklynite]

39. If it was ONE post, I might agree...I've seen this stuff multiple time in the past week.

[Ed Suspicious]

41. I think your opinion on what "Sanders supporters" need to do is worth just a bit less than the paper

it's printed on.

[jalan48]

42. I think the more Bernie's message gets out the more voters he will attract.

Unless your super-wealthy how does a Wall Street candidate help the average person?

[Milliesmom]

44. smile it's all in good nature fun.

Bernie won one primary by double digits, so only fair he let Hillary win one!

[Feeling the Bern]

45. Kissinger loving, Goldwater supporting, "bring them to heel" superpredator screaming,

Wall Street owned, condescending and probably will be indicted. . .yes, Bernie needs to change.

I call desperate bullshit on this crap!

[Hekate]

63. Peddling RW memes from one end to the other...that's all you've got?

[Doctor_J]

98. I haven't seen any right wingers complain about Clinton being too conservative

Can you post a few of those links?

[840high]

100. Her own words.

[mckara]

46. Clinton Supporters Should Wrap their Heads Around this Concept:

Clinton CANNOT win the General Election

[iandhr]

78. You think Bernie can?

[Purrfessor]

47. It has gotten ridiculous around here. I happen to like South Carolina...

I may retire to the Charleston area or somewhere just north of North Myrtle Beach. Racists exist in every part of the US. To disparage the residents of an entire state because Bernie may not win that state's primary is not only foolish but insulting.

[MisterP]

48. just because you're mad that BLM isn't backing YOUR favored candidate and sparing them from being

confronted with their record and policies doesn't mean you can try and make Black votes into some hobby-horse to flog

besides, there's always the trendlines

[NurseJackie]

54. I think you're correct about that. (But don't hold your breath.)

It may take awhile... if at all.

[Chicago1980]

56. I hope we can all cill out and look at the bigger picture.

No one is going to be swayed by nastiness.

Personally I'm going to be voting BLUE no matter who.

[cantbeserious]

57. Predictably Spreading Establishment FUD - Meme Number 117

eom

[AlbertCat]

59. I think Hillary and her supporters should enjoy their win in SC!

It's the only SC win Hillary will ever have.

[Chicago1980]

61. okay...

[AlbertCat]

69. Well. she ain't gonna carry SC in the general.

[Tarc]

75. And this matters...why?

Obama romped through the South against Hillary in 2008, carried hardly any of them in the general, yet still won handily.

Another thing to keep in mind is that if...a big if...Sanders becomes the nominee and runs in the general, he's running for the president of the entire country, not just the cozy white enclaves of New England.

[Geronimoe]

67. Unfortunately

Trump will win SC in the General.

[erlewyne]

70. I'm voting for Bernie Sanders.

I am so proud of him!

[onenote]

79. So am I. But I'm not proud of some of my fellow Sanders' supporters posts here.

And I'm very much not proud of the Sanders' supporters that say they won't vote for Clinton if she get the nomination. I was discussing this with an African-American colleague. He is a Bernie supporter and he was expressing shock that there were Sanders' supporters that would not step up to defend the rights of minorities by doing everything possible to defeat whatever republican maniac gets their nomination. Again, he wants Bernie to be our nominee, but he's disturbed at the idea that there are other Sanders supporters who would not stand up to a candidate that has been endorsed by the KKK and David Duke.

Obviously, most Sanders supporters will support whomever gets the nomination and there are many here that speak out when someone posts something offensive. But the blame game gets old.

[malletgirl02]

88. So all Clinton Supporters are sweetness and light?

By some of the post on DU I'm sure there are Clinton supporters who won't vote for Sanders if he would get the nomination.

[onenote]

89. Of course not. But saying both sides do it doesn't excuse it either.

[Blue_In_AK]

72. The fact remains

that South Carolina hasn't voted for a Democratic presidential contender since 1976. I have about as much faith that they will this year as I do that Alaska will. It says nothing about Democrats in South Carolina other than they're vastly outnumbered, just like here.

[PatrynXX]

74. you can have your night but it's just NH to me n/t

[Iggo]

81. I like my attitude just fine, thanks!

[PonyUp]

95. You think they will show up to vote for Hillary when she needs them most? n/t

[malletgirl02]

108. I would be careful with insulting Sanders supporters

If Clinton wins the primary she will be need the votes of Sanders supporters to win the election. Ironically you are doing the same thing the OP is accusing Sanders supporters of doing.

[Politicalboi]

84. We knew she would win SC

BFD! Many more states to pick up, and each day more bad news about the Queen comes out. We just can't believe after all the lying they still support her. They'll learn. If she's the nominee they'll learn they chose wrong. Too bad not so sad, more funny than anything else.

[Autumn]

85. Sc was never in question, that was always going to be hers. Onward

[jalan48]

93. Yep-Hillary wins conservative southern state.

Not the end by any means.

[Autumn]

94. Not even close to the end.

[Dragonfli]

90. You paint with a brush so broad, you cover the canvas, the wall, and half the room in one stroke.

Most sanders supporters are not represented by your few and even amplified statements placed in their mouths.

Another thing you might consider is getting to know the actual electorate. Living in wealth , far above most of the others in this country (would I be correct to assume via several comments you have made in the past) that your family income places you in the 1% (even tho I assume it is in a higher bracket than that. in the .##).

You do not learn about the electorate living in a bubble of thousand dollar plate fundraisers and rubbing elbows with wealthy people at prestigious cocktail parties. Live in the shoes of the poor, the hungry, the working poor that hold two or three jobs yet still dread a gas or electric shut-off or even an impending eviction, or even the middle class that are sinking fast, many underwater and on there way to the road of "the working poor" at breakneck speed. It is among those people whose shoes are worn and tattered where you will find the majority, in fact most of the electorate you presume to speak for.

Your candidate thrives on the very cancer the billionaires and corporations are responsible for. They Buy Neo-liberal candidates within the Democratic party, while buying the John Birch Society reborn Republican party to dance in the great theater of politics in order to collude in ways that have reduced most of us to poverty, near poverty, or desperation.

Your bubble leaves you completely insulated from what the electorate faces and has blinded you to the realities that most of us face to the point you are likely convinced this orchestrated dance between the purchased of both parties is not being led by those who have more wealth funneled upwards to them that have so much already and that it is being funneled every single day.
(at the expense of the electorate you are so "concerned" about)

Your bubble leaves you too blind and ignorant to dare use a straw man to chastise the regular people, or pontificate in any way some view to the great majority of people you don't understand, trying to "enlighten" us, the unwashed about anything regarding our views concerning each other.


Keep your advice to yourself or whisper it in the ears of the wealthy, living in the same bubble, you may understand them at least a little and have something of value to offer.

[840high]

103. .^that x100

[emsimon33]

91. So, she wins states that she can not win in November

Only further confirms what I have said from Day 1: If Hillary is the nominee, then we will have a Republican president, a overwhelming Republican Senate and Congress, and a Republican Supreme Court.

[davidthegnome]

92. The things you're saying...

are broad brush statements/assertions, much like those you are referring to in the first paragraph of this OP. His (Bernie's) supporters - those here? We're a pretty large, pretty diverse group of people. Some of us say dumb things, some of us make ignorant posts some times, sure. I have voted to hide posts that went over the top from both sides of the fence on this debate. That said, I do not think that all of either group behaves in a certain way, to suggest such a thing would be inaccurate - as Clinton supporters are also a large, diverse group of people.

Let's take people to task for the things they say, especially when they're ignorant and moronic... however, let's take the individual to task for the actions/words of the individual, rather than the group as a whole. My point is - you are doing something very similar to what you are complaining about here.

Plenty of different kinds of people on both sides of the fence here.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

96. I think both sides have been repugnant for awhile now

Calling Hillary dishonest, a liar, "The Queen", etc is disgusting, and so are people who blithely toss out there that Bernie is an "asshole". The superfans are turning us all off.

[Hekate]

102. Both sides are not behaving in the same way. Really.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

104. Of course, no one thinks their own farts stink. n/m

[m-lekktor]

112. Oh please.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH

[davidthegnome]

122. No, they aren't.

Some individuals on both sides are behaving badly, but neither group as a whole.

[SoapBox]

105. Enjoy your Wall Street/Bankster Third Way candidate.

Not for me, thank you.

[brewens]

106. Large swaths of the electorate have pulled their heads out of their asses. It's unfortunate that

many of them are supporting tRump. There really is no polite way to tell people they are idiots to want more of the same. We're hoping they figure it out without having to really hit bottom.

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

107. I spent a lot of time trying to understand the black vote. Unsatisfied with what I discovered.

I liken black South Carolinians voting for a Clinton to white Kansans as they're portrayed in "What's the matter with Kansas?" I, me, a white guy from a metropolis, Chicago, looks at Kansas and wonders why they vote against their best ECONOMIC interests. But that's my point of view, because they place CULTURAL ISSUES above economic issues. I shake my head at them because those cultural issues don't rate with me. I look at South Carolina, and I'm thinking, "How can you be marginalizing Bernie, he's fighting against economic inequality? You have no power until you have economic power!" Obama didn't have any tricks before he got to office. He leaned heavily on his cabinet. It hadn't crossed my mind that a president wouldn't delegate to experts.

Buuuuuut, whatever. Some people insist the cart actually goes before the horse despite the fact that they've been stuck at the same place with the same buggy driver at the helm.

So, South Carolina, you should be a super Tuesday state, so I can ignore you like the others. I don't even know who's up next. That's the way it should be. Good riddance!

[muriel_volestrangler]

111. As a neutral, I can see several threads tonight with that awful attitude

and those Bernie supporters indulging in it (writing the threads, or recommending them) should realise how crappy they're making their camp look. It's condescending, often insulting, and possibly racist in a few cases. They should pray that no undecided voter reads what they've written.

[Trust Buster]

118. I think they're burning down the house.....sad.

[Pharaoh]

114. I watched !

Where the fuck were all the POC?

All I saw was white people!

[magical thyme]

115. offs, exactly where has such crap been posted? links please.

[HooptieWagon]

117. Take a long hard look at your attitude.

Hillary will be wanting every Sanders supporter to vote for her in the GE. Be a shame if her supporters alienated every Sanders supporter. When she loses, you all will OWN it.

[RoccoR5955]

120. The OP keeps posting the same crap

Thinking that while Clinton attacks Sanders at will, we should not bring up issues that effect us.
Telling Sanders supporters to just give up, and support Clinton.
I am fed up with this crap. I have listened to Hillary's speech today in SC, and every point that she has brought up, was brought up before she did, by Bernie. Why do people believe her? She has lied in the past to us, I am sure that she will be lying in the present, and shall lie in the future.
I do not want this sort of person for president, nor will I give up to have the Genuine Article: Bernie Sanders!

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