2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum*Update - Account restored* Twitter Exec Censors #WhichHillary in advance of Sunday Fundraiser
Twitter wants to control what political messages you see.
In a truly egregious move yesterday, Twitter suspended the account responsible for #WhichHillary, activists @GuerrillaDems. Twitter also removed #WhichHillary from trending status odd, considering the hashtag received more than 450,000 tweets in less than 24 hours.
This isnt the first time Twitter has exerted political control like this. It is also a demonstrable conflict of interest, in light of Twitter Executive Chairman Omid Kordestanis Sunday, 2/28 fundraiser with Clinton.
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http://m.dailykos.com/story/2016/02/26/1491618/-Twitter-Exec-Censors-WhichHillary-in-advance-of-Sunday-Fundraiser-Key-Primaries
I don't have Twitter, so if this turns out to be bullshit I will happily delete. I seriously want this to be bullshit.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)Of Corporate America.
azmom
(5,208 posts)This is the way they subverve democracy.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)getting pathetic.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)They feel the Queen can shit all over us, and still get our vote come November. They are so wrong.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)#yamecanse
http://notigodinez.com/y-cibernautas-desafian-la-censura-en-twitter-lanzando-ahora-el-ya-me-canse-2/
The difference is... our press will never touch it.
xocet
(3,875 posts)I don't trust google translate as far as I can throw a stack of proper German dictionaries - even if they are bound together with duct tape.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)The words mean "I am tired"
This came from a presser given by the AG during the height of the ayotzinapa crisis, and it lasted for close to two hours. The press was not done... and the AG violated unwritten press rules. He did not even try the camera man trick. anyway, a reporter asked a question, and he said, "I am tired" and walked out of the room... twitter responded in less than kind ways.
Here is the NPR version of it, Murillo Karam leaving the stage that is
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/02/27/389530564/mexican-attorney-general-who-handled-case-of-vanished-students-to-step-down
I watched that on the official youtube feed for the AG office and it was a gobsmacking moment
xocet
(3,875 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Yes, it may be a conspiracy...it appears to be true, not theory though.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)I wonder why anyone would believe such a thing???
Oh wait...no I don't. This kind of trickery is defining Hillary's campaign.
No wonder it's believed.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)Totally winning reply. Doesn't just look like ignorant invocation of bully-words in the face of undesired facts.
Mika
(17,751 posts)... for the Twitter revolutions in Iran and Libya?
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arcane1
(38,613 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)"'In 2013, the State Department, which has more than 400,000 likes and was recently most popular in Cairo, said it would stop buying Facebook fans after its inspector general criticized the agency for spending $630,000 to boost the numbers,' the wire service reported. "
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3038621/More-2-MILLION-Hillary-Clinton-s-Twitter-followers-fake-never-tweet.html#ixzz41IWvaeL5
redruddyred
(1,615 posts).... hillary clinton is the KIM KARDASHIAN of politics? :0
shenmue
(38,506 posts)think
(11,641 posts)http://fortune.com/2015/10/07/saudi-prince-twitter-stock/
mikehiggins
(5,614 posts)That's how arrogant the Establishment has become.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)Yes. Were Being Censored by Twitter
Its true were being censored by twitter. Were also still locked down. The lock down occurred at the height of the #WhichHillary hashtag trend. We are trying to contact Twitter, but I dont think they want to answer questions at this point.
We announced last night that we were going to try a last minute twitter bomb on the hashtag #WhichHillary, because of the Black Lives Matters video. The reason it was last minute is because of the time and not connection to Black Lives Matter. It was something we thought was worth doing for Black Lives Matter. While we cant take credit for making it pop, we definitely have a voice and our followers are always down for a little thumbing it in the eye of the Establishment.
We contacted the groups we are associated with on twitter to let them know about the hashtag. One of those groups is connected to Bernie Sanders social media team, but they just wanted to lay back and let BLM do their thing. But since we are independent we just went ahead with juicing it.
We then loaded our Buffer with a bunch of tweets that directly attacked Hillarys record and money influences, then called it a night. By morning, we all know it hit number one. We started to tweet and take the account a little off topic, so we wouldnt overdue the #WhichHillary and then it just locked up.
The tweet they stopped was a reminder to everyone about March For Bernie, but it said all our tweets werent legit, no matter what was written. They changed the reason for the lock-down and will probably have some BS answer for why they did it. Its never happen before, nothing was different today.
Once we were locked down someone mentioned the account saying they were censoring us and sent us a screen shot. Twitter has been removing our tweets from their search engine. One in particular that called out Hillary for lying about Priorities USA not being her SuperPac. There looks to be numerous tweets that Twitter is censoring the public from. The Guerrilla Socialists do not sexual harass or harass anyone on the internet. The censorship is directed squarely at Hillary and her connections to SuperPacs, Wall Street, and other corporate interests.
All that being said, were still locked down but plan to go to March For Bernie in Seattle on Saturday Feb 27th. Hopefully we can communicate with our twitter community on that day.
Slick Lion
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)only a couple dozen re-tweets. It would appear that people have moved on?
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Nice hat!
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)I'm confused by a lot of this: wouldnt overdue the #WhichHillary?
it said all our tweets werent legit, no matter what was written. They changed the reason for the lock-down and will probably have some BS answer for why they did it.
What reasons did they give- what is meant by not-legit, overdue?
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)all at once and then time them to go out in intervals.
Businesses use those tools for social media all the time. I do. I write about 10 - 15 Tweets and schedule them to go out over the next two or three days. That frees me up from having to remind myself "it's time to Tweet" when I'm busy writing a blog piece or developing an ad.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Interesting how Twitter is supposed to reflect spur of the moment reactions of a diverse group- but you get shit like this, messing with it.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)It's allowed so people can sleep.
Sorry, you old folks don't get it.
I'm 46, btw.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)It's just a tool of convenience. You still have to write the tweets you're going to send, it just allows you to space them out rather than send them all in one big clump. Or to prevent you having to come back and keep sending them individually which can be annoying if you're busy.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Last edited Sat Feb 27, 2016, 06:10 PM - Edit history (1)
want to limit it.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)You probably wouldn't know about. Applications like this are very common amongst online marketing people in particular and certainly wouldn't normally be considered spam in any way. Twitter has never had any problem with it, because like I said before it's mostly just used to release tweets at particular times rather than send out mass messages. I can understand why it might have caused confusion though.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)extent that they try to prevent people from "gaming" what will be a trending tweet. Which is apparently what this whole thing is about.
They don't, and that is why this case is notable. On several other occasions Twitter have deliberately stopped trending hashtags, that is what they did here. That's why the anger has happened.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)It's being blocked from TRENDING so that if you didn't already know about it, you wouldn't and so that Twitter users can't see what the most popular subjects are.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Ashley William's last tweet has been re-tweeted less than 50 times.
I think people have just moved on. Which is exactly what twitter does. They are crazy hot for something one minute, and over it the next.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)It's still quite popular.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)I think the bulk of it has run it's course.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)You don't understand Twitter.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)If it's just the same people using the same hashtag then it's not a trend. It has to be getting new people Twittering.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)TheFarS1de
(1,017 posts)It is all well documented and just recently they initiated a censorship panel . This is not conspiratorial stuff , simply reality .
nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)for example, with Mexico and #yamecanse, the difference is that our media will never report on this, while Mexican media did.
http://notigodinez.com/y-cibernautas-desafian-la-censura-en-twitter-lanzando-ahora-el-ya-me-canse-2/
libtodeath
(2,888 posts)bunnies
(15,859 posts)None.
elana i am
(814 posts)just posting the hashtag repeatedly doesn't keep it trending unless it's consistently being tweeted by new tweeters. once a trend slows, it can still be posted about thousands upon thousands of times and still no longer trend. it just means it's the same people posting multiple posts with the same hashtag. it's akin to the hits/visitors/page views thing. they do it that way to keep spammers from trending.
the algorithm is complex, so there's more to it than that, but that's the biggest reason. and as the article explains below, the algorithm weeds out even still trending topics after they have been trending for an extended period of time.
article that explains a little more:
http://www.npr.org/2011/12/07/143013503/how-twitters-trending-algorithm-picks-its-topics
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)I suspect twitter has just moved on, as they usually do.
starroute
(12,977 posts)I assume most people read a thread from top to bottom. Seeing virtually identical posts over and over doesn't reinforce the message. It just gets annoying.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)There are times I have had to answer the same question 6 times based on one of my OP's. A lot of people read the OP, then scroll and post.
It's an odd place.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)profound ignorance regarding the topic.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)conspiracy and millions of people are involved.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)That they've been shown to have done numerous times in the past. But this time, gosh it must just be a conspiracy theory.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)temporarily suspended for it,there's your conspiracy.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)When you clearly have very little idea how Twitter works. This had absolutely nothing to do with spam.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)got a lot of publicity over it though.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)Seriously if you think this has anything to do with spam you're very mistaken. Unless of course you can actually provide some proof of that?
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)elana i am
(814 posts)i had to scrounge a litte but found the original article i read on this. it's form 2011 and twitter's algorithm has evolved, but it's still the basics.
[link:https://blog.bufferapp.com/five-twitter-secrets-about-censored-trending-topics|
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Yeah. Sure.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)propaganda.
senz
(11,945 posts)Tarc
(10,478 posts)Seems it was a mistake, though I'm sure the ones won't buy that.
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)death threats or threats of violence. When #Ferguson was trending it was temporarily blocked too and others I have seen
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)some other social media to use and will drop twitter. Millennials cannot be silenced.
sarge43
(28,947 posts)then Hillary Clinton could do the honorable thing, denounce this and refuse to attend the fundraiser until this is stopped. "I don't want or need to win through censorship."
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)sarge43
(28,947 posts)Further, if she backed away from this, she might miss out on a chance for more money in the war chest.
senz
(11,945 posts)Makes them look like they're trying to cover something up.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)which is proof it was there to begin with.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Had just been reading various Tweets about this (missed it earlier)...it's been restored but I call bullshit on it being a mistake.