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arcane1

(38,613 posts)
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:37 PM Feb 2016

*Update - Account restored* Twitter Exec Censors #WhichHillary in advance of Sunday Fundraiser

Twitter wants to control what political messages you see.

In a truly egregious move yesterday, Twitter suspended the account responsible for #WhichHillary, activists @GuerrillaDems. Twitter also removed #WhichHillary from trending status — odd, considering the hashtag received more than 450,000 tweets in less than 24 hours.

This isn’t the first time Twitter has exerted political control like this. It is also a demonstrable conflict of interest, in light of Twitter Executive Chairman Omid Kordestani’s Sunday, 2/28 fundraiser with Clinton.

-snip-

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2016/02/26/1491618/-Twitter-Exec-Censors-WhichHillary-in-advance-of-Sunday-Fundraiser-Key-Primaries

I don't have Twitter, so if this turns out to be bullshit I will happily delete. I seriously want this to be bullshit.

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*Update - Account restored* Twitter Exec Censors #WhichHillary in advance of Sunday Fundraiser (Original Post) arcane1 Feb 2016 OP
That's some serious bullshit and goes to show that Hillary has the backing berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #1
It's true. It was reported yesterday that it was being done azmom Feb 2016 #2
Oh for fuck sake. This conspiratorial crap is sufrommich Feb 2016 #3
more info restorefreedom Feb 2016 #7
If you have evidence that this is false, present it. I would LOVE it! arcane1 Feb 2016 #8
+1 NWCorona Feb 2016 #10
They don't Politicalboi Feb 2016 #29
So it did not happen either in Mexico nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #18
Could you please note what "Ya me canse" means? xocet Feb 2016 #47
Ok here is the context nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #49
Thank you for the translation, context and link. That is very interesting. n/t xocet Feb 2016 #52
Conspiracy? passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #41
This conspiratorial crap is getting pathetic. AlbertCat Feb 2016 #44
Fuck these people. shenmue Feb 2016 #46
Magic kill-word + ROFL smiley = de nada JackRiddler Feb 2016 #73
Is this the same Twitter that Hil appropriated State dept servers to... Mika Feb 2016 #4
She also spent taxpayer money purchasing Twitter followers for the State Department n/t arcane1 Feb 2016 #6
Hmm NWCorona Feb 2016 #12
Did not know that! NWCorona Feb 2016 #11
It stopped in 2013 when Kerry took over arcane1 Feb 2016 #15
are you telling me that.... redruddyred Feb 2016 #43
Whatever that was, put it down. shenmue Feb 2016 #48
Side note: Saudi billionaire Prince Alwaleed doubles his stake in Twitter think Feb 2016 #5
They don't even try to hide their conflict of interest mikehiggins Feb 2016 #9
Its not blocked. It is alive and well. Lucinda Feb 2016 #13
here's the truth --> nashville_brook Feb 2016 #17
The most recent post with that hastag a few mintes ago was from Ashley Williams - with Lucinda Feb 2016 #21
That doesn't fit the paranoid schematic shenmue Feb 2016 #50
Yeah.... Lucinda Feb 2016 #51
what does "loading our buffer with a bunch of tweets" mean? is that like spamming or using bots? bettyellen Feb 2016 #27
You can use programs that allow you to write several Tweets Fawke Em Feb 2016 #33
Ah, so it is like spamming. Now I get why he was afraid "to overdue" it. And why it was blocked. bettyellen Feb 2016 #35
No..it's not like spamming at all. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #61
It's nothing to do with spam Kentonio Feb 2016 #65
Well the effect is like spamming- automating the sending of the tweets. So I get why Twitter would bettyellen Feb 2016 #75
I don't want to sound mean, this is something that unless you work with the particular software Kentonio Feb 2016 #76
I know they are common in marketing, but apparently Twitter does have an issue with it- to the bettyellen Feb 2016 #78
No. Kentonio Feb 2016 #79
You can still use the hashtag. Duh. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #31
It has to be actually used a lot to be trending. The last time I looked Lucinda Feb 2016 #32
It's not just Ashley typing it. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #34
I know, but my point is the woman behind it's surge, isnt being re-tweeted. Lucinda Feb 2016 #36
That has nothing to do with it. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #58
If it doesn't have any new people joining the hashtag then it's not trending tammywammy Feb 2016 #57
I know that. The other poster doesn't. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #59
Twitter in some instances hides trending tweets . TheFarS1de Feb 2016 #53
k and r nashville_brook Feb 2016 #14
They have done this in the past nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #16
That is what I would expect of repukes not our side. libtodeath Feb 2016 #19
None of the elites are on our side. bunnies Feb 2016 #22
it's the algorithms elana i am Feb 2016 #20
Yep. Ashley Williams' most recent tweet has only been re-tweeted a couple dozen times Lucinda Feb 2016 #23
Any particular reason you had to say that three different times? starroute Feb 2016 #54
No...Most people don't seem to read top to bottom here. I do though. Lucinda Feb 2016 #55
And what you keep saying in this thread with regard to Twitter shows FlatBaroque Feb 2016 #74
I noticed that too. Seems more like a propaganda mission more than just expressing an opinion. GoneFishin Feb 2016 #77
Don't bother,it falls on deaf ears. It's a massive sufrommich Feb 2016 #24
Yes we're clearly crazy for believing Twitter would do something Kentonio Feb 2016 #66
The account got caught spamming twitter and was sufrommich Feb 2016 #67
You really shouldn't talk about how Twitter works Kentonio Feb 2016 #68
Yes,it was spamming. This little known account sure sufrommich Feb 2016 #70
You don't know what Buffer is clearly.. Kentonio Feb 2016 #71
Everything got bumped by a shocking episode of How to Get Away With Murder bettyellen Feb 2016 #28
Don't tell me...waiting to enjoy on the week end...nt artislife Feb 2016 #60
So shocking, I am going to have to start watching again after reading the tweets! bettyellen Feb 2016 #72
one more article elana i am Feb 2016 #30
The algorithms locked their account? jeff47 Feb 2016 #37
Conservatives hate free speech. If "net neutrality" ever goes awa, all you'll ever see is far right Doctor_J Feb 2016 #25
Well, we all know the Corporate Candidate cannot win a fair fight. senz Feb 2016 #26
The account is no longer blocked Tarc Feb 2016 #38
I've seen it done when people use hashtags for fun n serious Feb 2016 #39
They are making a huge financial mistake on this one. Millennials will simply find liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #40
If this is true and like the OP I hope it isn't, sarge43 Feb 2016 #42
Queen Hillary hopes media censorship will mean that most people don't read about this AZ Progressive Feb 2016 #63
Oh, I know. sarge43 Feb 2016 #64
K & R AzDar Feb 2016 #45
Interesting how Hill people ALWAYS jump in to say, "Move along. Nothing to see here." senz Feb 2016 #56
especially when "nothing to see" is corrected or apologized for m-lekktor Feb 2016 #69
"Mistake" my ass... SoapBox Feb 2016 #62

azmom

(5,208 posts)
2. It's true. It was reported yesterday that it was being done
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:39 PM
Feb 2016

This is the way they subverve democracy.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
29. They don't
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 02:09 PM
Feb 2016

They feel the Queen can shit all over us, and still get our vote come November. They are so wrong.

xocet

(3,875 posts)
47. Could you please note what "Ya me canse" means?
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 03:50 PM
Feb 2016

I don't trust google translate as far as I can throw a stack of proper German dictionaries - even if they are bound together with duct tape.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
49. Ok here is the context
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 03:55 PM
Feb 2016

The words mean "I am tired"

This came from a presser given by the AG during the height of the ayotzinapa crisis, and it lasted for close to two hours. The press was not done... and the AG violated unwritten press rules. He did not even try the camera man trick. anyway, a reporter asked a question, and he said, "I am tired" and walked out of the room... twitter responded in less than kind ways.

Here is the NPR version of it, Murillo Karam leaving the stage that is

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/02/27/389530564/mexican-attorney-general-who-handled-case-of-vanished-students-to-step-down

I watched that on the official youtube feed for the AG office and it was a gobsmacking moment

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
44. This conspiratorial crap is getting pathetic.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 03:32 PM
Feb 2016

I wonder why anyone would believe such a thing???

Oh wait...no I don't. This kind of trickery is defining Hillary's campaign.


No wonder it's believed.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
73. Magic kill-word + ROFL smiley = de nada
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:38 PM
Feb 2016

Totally winning reply. Doesn't just look like ignorant invocation of bully-words in the face of undesired facts.

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
4. Is this the same Twitter that Hil appropriated State dept servers to...
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:42 PM
Feb 2016

... for the Twitter revolutions in Iran and Libya?


.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
15. It stopped in 2013 when Kerry took over
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:55 PM
Feb 2016

"'In 2013, the State Department, which has more than 400,000 likes and was recently most popular in Cairo, said it would stop buying Facebook fans after its inspector general criticized the agency for spending $630,000 to boost the numbers,' the wire service reported. "

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3038621/More-2-MILLION-Hillary-Clinton-s-Twitter-followers-fake-never-tweet.html#ixzz41IWvaeL5

 

think

(11,641 posts)
5. Side note: Saudi billionaire Prince Alwaleed doubles his stake in Twitter
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:42 PM
Feb 2016
Saudi billionaire Prince Alwaleed doubles his stake in Twitter

http://fortune.com/2015/10/07/saudi-prince-twitter-stock/

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
9. They don't even try to hide their conflict of interest
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:45 PM
Feb 2016

That's how arrogant the Establishment has become.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
17. here's the truth -->
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:55 PM
Feb 2016
http://www.guerrillasocialists.com/post/140018333267/yes-were-being-censored-by-twitter

Yes. We’re Being Censored by Twitter

It’s true we’re being censored by twitter. We’re also still locked down. The lock down occurred at the height of the #WhichHillary hashtag trend. We are trying to contact Twitter, but I don’t think they want to answer questions at this point.

We announced last night that we were going to try a last minute twitter bomb on the hashtag #WhichHillary, because of the Black Lives Matters video. The reason it was last minute is because of the time and not connection to Black Lives Matter. It was something we thought was worth doing for Black Lives Matter. While we can’t take credit for making it pop, we definitely have a voice and our followers are always down for a little thumbing it in the eye of the Establishment.

We contacted the groups we are associated with on twitter to let them know about the hashtag. One of those groups is connected to Bernie Sanders social media team, but they just wanted to lay back and let BLM do their thing. But since we are independent we just went ahead with juicing it.

We then loaded our Buffer with a bunch of tweets that directly attacked Hillary’s record and money influences, then called it a night. By morning, we all know it hit number one. We started to tweet and take the account a little off topic, so we wouldn’t overdue the #WhichHillary and then it just locked up.

The tweet they stopped was a reminder to everyone about March For Bernie, but it said all our tweets weren’t legit, no matter what was written. They changed the reason for the lock-down and will probably have some BS answer for why they did it. It’s never happen before, nothing was different today.

Once we were locked down someone mentioned the account saying they were censoring us and sent us a screen shot. Twitter has been removing our tweets from their search engine. One in particular that called out Hillary for lying about Priorities USA not being her SuperPac. There looks to be numerous tweets that Twitter is censoring the public from. The Guerrilla Socialists do not sexual harass or harass anyone on the internet. The censorship is directed squarely at Hillary and her connections to SuperPacs, Wall Street, and other corporate interests.

All that being said, we’re still locked down but plan to go to March For Bernie in Seattle on Saturday Feb 27th. Hopefully we can communicate with our twitter community on that day.

Slick Lion

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
21. The most recent post with that hastag a few mintes ago was from Ashley Williams - with
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:58 PM
Feb 2016

only a couple dozen re-tweets. It would appear that people have moved on?

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
27. what does "loading our buffer with a bunch of tweets" mean? is that like spamming or using bots?
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 02:04 PM
Feb 2016

I'm confused by a lot of this: wouldn’t overdue the #WhichHillary?
it said all our tweets weren’t legit, no matter what was written. They changed the reason for the lock-down and will probably have some BS answer for why they did it.

What reasons did they give- what is meant by not-legit, overdue?

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
33. You can use programs that allow you to write several Tweets
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 02:21 PM
Feb 2016

all at once and then time them to go out in intervals.

Businesses use those tools for social media all the time. I do. I write about 10 - 15 Tweets and schedule them to go out over the next two or three days. That frees me up from having to remind myself "it's time to Tweet" when I'm busy writing a blog piece or developing an ad.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
35. Ah, so it is like spamming. Now I get why he was afraid "to overdue" it. And why it was blocked.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 02:26 PM
Feb 2016

Interesting how Twitter is supposed to reflect spur of the moment reactions of a diverse group- but you get shit like this, messing with it.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
61. No..it's not like spamming at all.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 01:01 AM
Feb 2016

It's allowed so people can sleep.

Sorry, you old folks don't get it.

I'm 46, btw.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
65. It's nothing to do with spam
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:42 AM
Feb 2016

It's just a tool of convenience. You still have to write the tweets you're going to send, it just allows you to space them out rather than send them all in one big clump. Or to prevent you having to come back and keep sending them individually which can be annoying if you're busy.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
75. Well the effect is like spamming- automating the sending of the tweets. So I get why Twitter would
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 05:04 PM
Feb 2016

Last edited Sat Feb 27, 2016, 06:10 PM - Edit history (1)

want to limit it.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
76. I don't want to sound mean, this is something that unless you work with the particular software
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 05:50 PM
Feb 2016

You probably wouldn't know about. Applications like this are very common amongst online marketing people in particular and certainly wouldn't normally be considered spam in any way. Twitter has never had any problem with it, because like I said before it's mostly just used to release tweets at particular times rather than send out mass messages. I can understand why it might have caused confusion though.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
78. I know they are common in marketing, but apparently Twitter does have an issue with it- to the
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 06:23 PM
Feb 2016

extent that they try to prevent people from "gaming" what will be a trending tweet. Which is apparently what this whole thing is about.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
79. No.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 06:40 PM
Feb 2016

They don't, and that is why this case is notable. On several other occasions Twitter have deliberately stopped trending hashtags, that is what they did here. That's why the anger has happened.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
31. You can still use the hashtag. Duh.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 02:17 PM
Feb 2016

It's being blocked from TRENDING so that if you didn't already know about it, you wouldn't and so that Twitter users can't see what the most popular subjects are.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
32. It has to be actually used a lot to be trending. The last time I looked
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 02:19 PM
Feb 2016

Ashley William's last tweet has been re-tweeted less than 50 times.

I think people have just moved on. Which is exactly what twitter does. They are crazy hot for something one minute, and over it the next.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
36. I know, but my point is the woman behind it's surge, isnt being re-tweeted.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 02:27 PM
Feb 2016

I think the bulk of it has run it's course.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
57. If it doesn't have any new people joining the hashtag then it's not trending
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 04:35 PM
Feb 2016

If it's just the same people using the same hashtag then it's not a trend. It has to be getting new people Twittering.

TheFarS1de

(1,017 posts)
53. Twitter in some instances hides trending tweets .
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 04:08 PM
Feb 2016

It is all well documented and just recently they initiated a censorship panel . This is not conspiratorial stuff , simply reality .

elana i am

(814 posts)
20. it's the algorithms
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:58 PM
Feb 2016

just posting the hashtag repeatedly doesn't keep it trending unless it's consistently being tweeted by new tweeters. once a trend slows, it can still be posted about thousands upon thousands of times and still no longer trend. it just means it's the same people posting multiple posts with the same hashtag. it's akin to the hits/visitors/page views thing. they do it that way to keep spammers from trending.

the algorithm is complex, so there's more to it than that, but that's the biggest reason. and as the article explains below, the algorithm weeds out even still trending topics after they have been trending for an extended period of time.

article that explains a little more:

http://www.npr.org/2011/12/07/143013503/how-twitters-trending-algorithm-picks-its-topics

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
23. Yep. Ashley Williams' most recent tweet has only been re-tweeted a couple dozen times
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:59 PM
Feb 2016

I suspect twitter has just moved on, as they usually do.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
54. Any particular reason you had to say that three different times?
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 04:13 PM
Feb 2016

I assume most people read a thread from top to bottom. Seeing virtually identical posts over and over doesn't reinforce the message. It just gets annoying.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
55. No...Most people don't seem to read top to bottom here. I do though.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 04:23 PM
Feb 2016

There are times I have had to answer the same question 6 times based on one of my OP's. A lot of people read the OP, then scroll and post.

It's an odd place.

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
74. And what you keep saying in this thread with regard to Twitter shows
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:43 PM
Feb 2016

profound ignorance regarding the topic.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
66. Yes we're clearly crazy for believing Twitter would do something
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:45 AM
Feb 2016

That they've been shown to have done numerous times in the past. But this time, gosh it must just be a conspiracy theory.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
67. The account got caught spamming twitter and was
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:47 AM
Feb 2016

temporarily suspended for it,there's your conspiracy.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
68. You really shouldn't talk about how Twitter works
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:49 AM
Feb 2016

When you clearly have very little idea how Twitter works. This had absolutely nothing to do with spam.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
71. You don't know what Buffer is clearly..
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:58 AM
Feb 2016

Seriously if you think this has anything to do with spam you're very mistaken. Unless of course you can actually provide some proof of that?

elana i am

(814 posts)
30. one more article
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 02:15 PM
Feb 2016

i had to scrounge a litte but found the original article i read on this. it's form 2011 and twitter's algorithm has evolved, but it's still the basics.

[link:https://blog.bufferapp.com/five-twitter-secrets-about-censored-trending-topics|

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
25. Conservatives hate free speech. If "net neutrality" ever goes awa, all you'll ever see is far right
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 02:03 PM
Feb 2016

propaganda.

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
39. I've seen it done when people use hashtags for
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 03:04 PM
Feb 2016

death threats or threats of violence. When #Ferguson was trending it was temporarily blocked too and others I have seen

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
40. They are making a huge financial mistake on this one. Millennials will simply find
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 03:07 PM
Feb 2016

some other social media to use and will drop twitter. Millennials cannot be silenced.

sarge43

(28,947 posts)
42. If this is true and like the OP I hope it isn't,
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 03:08 PM
Feb 2016

then Hillary Clinton could do the honorable thing, denounce this and refuse to attend the fundraiser until this is stopped. "I don't want or need to win through censorship."

sarge43

(28,947 posts)
64. Oh, I know.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:17 AM
Feb 2016

Further, if she backed away from this, she might miss out on a chance for more money in the war chest.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
56. Interesting how Hill people ALWAYS jump in to say, "Move along. Nothing to see here."
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 04:32 PM
Feb 2016

Makes them look like they're trying to cover something up.

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
69. especially when "nothing to see" is corrected or apologized for
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:49 AM
Feb 2016

which is proof it was there to begin with.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
62. "Mistake" my ass...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 01:57 AM
Feb 2016

Had just been reading various Tweets about this (missed it earlier)...it's been restored but I call bullshit on it being a mistake.

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