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Eddie Haskell

(1,628 posts)
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 05:32 PM Oct 2012

In 2008, my home town had a roughly equal number of signs for both candidates.

This year, I've seen one Obama sign for every hundred Romney signs. If that's an indication of how people are voting, we're in serious trouble. What's it like where you live?

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In 2008, my home town had a roughly equal number of signs for both candidates. (Original Post) Eddie Haskell Oct 2012 OP
One for every hundred????? gateley Oct 2012 #1
OK, so I decided to count. Eddie Haskell Oct 2012 #24
in Cuyahoga County, OH CitizenLeft Oct 2012 #68
Eh Day And Night Oct 2012 #2
I am not seeing many signs at all, but Sherman A1 Oct 2012 #3
If we based voting on lawn signs, Obama would win Utah. Drunken Irishman Oct 2012 #4
I am see very few signs, at all, in my area. hamsterjill Oct 2012 #5
In Georgia not many Romney signs Chiquitita Oct 2012 #6
Why is Georgia solid red? Baitball Blogger Oct 2012 #39
Away from Atlanta, votes go conservative, Ilsa Oct 2012 #52
I am working in handmade34 Oct 2012 #7
That sounds like an exact science. Maybe we should just let you make all our decisions. MjolnirTime Oct 2012 #8
I've seen two Romney signs adigal Oct 2012 #9
Where the hell are you Eddie? annabanana Oct 2012 #10
Well, without giving an address Eddie Haskell Oct 2012 #19
without giving an address can you tell us the state? onenote Oct 2012 #38
Denial. Raster Oct 2012 #54
I haven't seen one Obama sign EmeraldCityGrl Oct 2012 #11
I do think the Republicans have been more pro-active with the signs. Baitball Blogger Oct 2012 #40
Same here in very blue Hollywood, FL. Many Romney signs, very few Obama ones.... smorkingapple Oct 2012 #12
Maybe people are still waiting for orders - LiberalElite Oct 2012 #43
I didn't see any Romney bumper stickers or signs... CBHagman Oct 2012 #13
I don't necessary think that is an indication of anything. Fringe Oct 2012 #14
FWIW, we haven't had rain since July except for a tiny bit once. uppityperson Oct 2012 #15
Hey! Fringe Oct 2012 #22
Probably isn't a good indication of the numbers ... Eddie Haskell Oct 2012 #20
I live in Oklahoma City Mrs. Ted Nancy Oct 2012 #16
Maybe the Obama Signs Are Cha Oct 2012 #17
Very likely. Eddie Haskell Oct 2012 #23
I have yet to see any signs for either candidate. surrealAmerican Oct 2012 #18
Not a single Romney sign where I live (Deep Blue Bay Area) sakabatou Oct 2012 #21
Our little red neck neighborhood has mostly local repub signs..... a kennedy Oct 2012 #25
Not quite but lots of rMoney around Akron, oh we can do it Oct 2012 #26
Yeah .........just terrible here in Ohio samplegirl Oct 2012 #27
Good Livluvgrow Oct 2012 #28
They're paper LiberalElite Oct 2012 #45
I hear ya Livluvgrow Oct 2012 #49
Not all of them Tree-Hugger Oct 2012 #63
No Obama signs in Colorado ... earthside Oct 2012 #29
Do you think having signs will help Obama to win? clydefrand Oct 2012 #30
i posted this to someone else LiberalElite Oct 2012 #46
They seem to be out of fashion in the suburbs south east of Los Angeles. Iggo Oct 2012 #31
I have yet to see a single Romney sign in my neighborhood. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2012 #32
Central Florida checking in AwareOne Oct 2012 #33
You're right Eddie Haskell Oct 2012 #55
By that metric, some guy named Coldwell Banker is gonna sweep my town. Robb Oct 2012 #34
After the debate RedSpartan Oct 2012 #35
In Richmond, VA 2theleft Oct 2012 #36
I think there is a difference in the way the 2 campaigns hand out merchandise and use signs Sunlei Oct 2012 #37
I see more Rmoney signs than Obama signs ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #41
Where the HELL do you live?? Alabama?? I have driven 1,000 miles up and down the 5 this week... progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #42
Stop what? Eddie Haskell Oct 2012 #56
Same here spinbaby Oct 2012 #44
The an$wer is obviou$ Iceberg Louie Oct 2012 #47
last i looked, signs can't vote struggle4progress Oct 2012 #48
Linda McSteroids had 8 signs for every Blumenthal sign in 2010. Dawson Leery Oct 2012 #50
what state are you in? robinlynne Oct 2012 #51
PA Eddie Haskell Oct 2012 #57
oh no. I'm from the Burgh. it was Dem when I grew up. but we had steel mills back then. robinlynne Oct 2012 #60
I assure you Tree-Hugger Oct 2012 #64
signs zach1845 Oct 2012 #53
I drove across Virginia recently, from east to west. beac Oct 2012 #58
Interesting. Eddie Haskell Oct 2012 #67
I'm seeing lots of Gov /Senate and local signs Myrina Oct 2012 #59
Philly Burb - BlueInPhilly Oct 2012 #61
I see far more Obama signs, Zoeisright Oct 2012 #62
In that case, McCain/Palin will win big... Tree-Hugger Oct 2012 #65
signs are meaningless Jersey Devil Oct 2012 #66
The last governors race had huge signs and small signs but he lost Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2012 #69

gateley

(62,683 posts)
1. One for every hundred?????
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 05:35 PM
Oct 2012

I seem to recall some here talking about having trouble getting yard signs from the campaign, and something about they decided not to spend a lot of money on them???? Something like that. Anybody?

Eddie Haskell

(1,628 posts)
24. OK, so I decided to count.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 08:35 AM
Oct 2012

It was 61 to 2, but the second Obama sign was added to the same yard. I'm sure if I went into the city, I'd find more Obama signs. After Joe's performance, things might change.

CitizenLeft

(2,791 posts)
68. in Cuyahoga County, OH
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 02:44 PM
Oct 2012

On my way to work, a 20 min drive that takes me through residential areas: 10-1 Obama.

But I was in Lake county this weekend, and it was the opposite. Can't say what Lake looked like in 2008, but this year, I see fewer signs for both parties everywhere. In Cuyahoga county, McCain signs were everywhere in 2008; way fewer Romney signs this year. But Obama clearly dominates in my county, which is expected as it's the bluest part of the state.

Day And Night

(16 posts)
2. Eh
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 05:35 PM
Oct 2012

I'm in KC, MO. I work over in OP, KS. I see more Obama stickers/logos there than I do Romney. And this is an area that's full of dumb, crazy ass teabaggers.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
5. I am see very few signs, at all, in my area.
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 05:39 PM
Oct 2012

But I live in Texas, so Romney is a foregone conclusion.

So - - - the rest of the nation, please don't let me down! I'm counting on sensible Democrats to get out and vote in the swing states in massive numbers!!!

Chiquitita

(752 posts)
6. In Georgia not many Romney signs
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 05:41 PM
Oct 2012

I'm seeing many fewer Romney than McCain signs and bumperstickers this year. About the same number for Obama.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
52. Away from Atlanta, votes go conservative,
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 02:20 PM
Oct 2012

even if it means electing a crook like Tom Graves to the House.

There weren't any RMoney signs up near me until after the presidential debate.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
7. I am working in
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 06:12 PM
Oct 2012

the middle of Ohio... same here... 1 Obama to every 100 Romney... and lots of

"Stop the War on Coal/Fire Obama" everytime I see one I scream out the window... "there is no fucking war on coal you assholes!"

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
9. I've seen two Romney signs
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 06:49 PM
Oct 2012

And I live in a conservative area. Lots more McCain signs last time around.

Eddie Haskell

(1,628 posts)
19. Well, without giving an address
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 09:15 PM
Oct 2012

I live in a Republican County. In fact, there hasn't been a Democratic judge elected in over 100 years.

Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
40. I do think the Republicans have been more pro-active with the signs.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:00 PM
Oct 2012

That, and gaming the polls and, of course, the illegal voter registrations.

smorkingapple

(827 posts)
12. Same here in very blue Hollywood, FL. Many Romney signs, very few Obama ones....
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 07:17 PM
Oct 2012

DOn't know what this means, but it's a vast difference from 2008....

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
43. Maybe people are still waiting for orders -
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:16 PM
Oct 2012

I ordered several items, including signs, from the Obama Store beginning of September and they didn't mail it till at least 4 weeks later. I don't know why it took so long.

CBHagman

(16,984 posts)
13. I didn't see any Romney bumper stickers or signs...
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 07:22 PM
Oct 2012

...until recently. The first bumper sticker I saw was on a car with Washington, D.C., plates, but I wouldn't read too much into that, given how reliably Democratic D.C. is.

Most the signs and stickers I see in Maryland are Obama-Biden. I've seen maybe one anti-Obama bumper sticker and that was in Bethesda.

In northern Virginia, I spotted a fair number of Romney signs but can't give you a breakdown.

Fringe

(175 posts)
14. I don't necessary think that is an indication of anything.
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 07:23 PM
Oct 2012

It depends on where you live, sometimes those with the loudest voices are in the minority.

I lived out West in the blue state of Washington in Kitsap county in 2008, and there were more McCain yard signs than Obama yard signs and the McCain people were louder because they were out numbered by democrats.

I now live in PA, and I've counted zero yard signs of any kind, and I've seen two Obama stickers and 2 Romney stickers on cars. However I have noticed that Romney voters are louder just as McCain voters were in Washington State.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
15. FWIW, we haven't had rain since July except for a tiny bit once.
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 07:35 PM
Oct 2012

everything is dry dry dry but we should be getting back to typical Pacific NorthWet tomorrow.

Fringe

(175 posts)
22. Hey!
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:11 AM
Oct 2012

Thanks for the info. I sure do miss it, rain and all. Washington State is a special kind of place.

Eddie Haskell

(1,628 posts)
20. Probably isn't a good indication of the numbers ...
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:24 AM
Oct 2012

but it could be an indication of their enthusiasm.

Mrs. Ted Nancy

(462 posts)
16. I live in Oklahoma City
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 07:52 PM
Oct 2012

I've seen a few Romney/Ryan signs and bumper stickers, but no where near the number of McCain/Palin signs I saw in 2008.

In the past month, lots of people were wanting Obama signs. They had to wait because the Dems had to order more signs. The signs arrived a couple of weeks ago. They also sent a few thousand signs to the western part of the state. Four years ago, there were just a handful of Obama signs in that area.

Also, I've talked with a few people who have Obama signs in their yard. They have had neighbors tell them "thank-you" for having the Obama sign. Now, their neighbors have Obama signs in their yards.

Oklahoma is safe for Romney. But, I don't think the vote will be as lopsided as it was four years ago.



surrealAmerican

(11,360 posts)
18. I have yet to see any signs for either candidate.
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 08:16 PM
Oct 2012

Then again, Obama will easily win this district, so maybe there's no point in putting up signs.

I haven't seen more than a few signs for local races either.

a kennedy

(29,655 posts)
25. Our little red neck neighborhood has mostly local repub signs.....
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:06 AM
Oct 2012

I've only seen one Mitwit sign, most are for local races.

samplegirl

(11,477 posts)
27. Yeah .........just terrible here in Ohio
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:08 AM
Oct 2012

for a battleground state. I was very disappointed in the signs anyway........could they of made the lettering any smaller?
The signs are awful.
Last election I delivered 250 signs. Maybe they are holding back until the week before.

Livluvgrow

(377 posts)
49. I hear ya
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:52 PM
Oct 2012

I know you would probably recycle them I know I and many others probably would, but most I bet just end up in the trash. What is really wasteful are the really large intersection signs. They seem to stick around for weeks after an election and are more of an eye sore than motivation for voting

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
63. Not all of them
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 01:03 PM
Oct 2012

Many of them are plastic. And they lay around for months after an election. I thought there was some law about leaving them up after a certain amount of times.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
29. No Obama signs in Colorado ...
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:16 AM
Oct 2012

... at least in bellwether Jefferson County.

Oh, I see a few here and there; some of them are clearly signs from 2008.

On the other hand, there are an increasing number of Rmoney/Ryan yard signs.

I have to tell you, I don't know if yard signs influence the vote, but they sure do influence the sense of momentum and enthusiasm. It is a real bummer to see Rmoney signs slowly but surely popping-up and no Obama signs.

Jefferson County is key to winning Colorado -- Obama must win here or be very, very close -- Denver and Boulder by themselves are just not enough to gain a plurality in this state.

Four years ago there were Obama/Biden yard signs everywhere and we all just knew that we were going blue -- this time not so much.

Frankly, and I'm not meaning to be a wet blanket, but I think Colorado is problematic for Obama ... the campaign needs some kind of boost here or it is going the other way.

clydefrand

(4,325 posts)
30. Do you think having signs will help Obama to win?
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:18 AM
Oct 2012

I have seen very few also. I keep wondering why...people can't afford to buy them? Not being sold? Do they really make people want to vote one way or the other? I already know how I will vote.

I do wonder why I don't see more for Obama. I have seen only one sticker on a car for Romney, but lots of signs for him. Also only one sticker for Obama other than mine.

Strange things going on...or at least different than in the past.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
46. i posted this to someone else
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:19 PM
Oct 2012

I ordered some items from the Obama Store, including signs, beginning of September but they didn't ship till nearly 5 weeks later.

Iggo

(47,552 posts)
31. They seem to be out of fashion in the suburbs south east of Los Angeles.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:28 AM
Oct 2012

I haven't seen one. I live in the tail end of the county, a short walk to OC.

To this day, every day, I flip off the house that was draped in Yes On 8 signs and banners. Funny, that dude doesn't have one sign up this year. The lady at the end of the street finally took down her Bush/Cheney sign, but nobody fucks with her because she's got kids in the wars. I remember seeing hundreds and hundreds of Meg Whitman signs lining the roads last time around. Those didn't seem to help and were probably a huge waste of money. And maybe that's what's really going on. They've decided to not waste money where they're not going to win. Good. I hear people got real tired of pulling up all those Whitman signs.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
32. I have yet to see a single Romney sign in my neighborhood.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:36 AM
Oct 2012

And so far I've seen exactly one Romney bumper sticker. There aren't a ton of Obama signs, either, but that may be because around here his victory is a given and people don't think it's necessary to put signs in their yards. The controversial issues here have to do with two proposed state, one to outlaw same sex marriage in the constitution (!) and the other to make voting more difficult. Lawn signs opposing those amendments are everywhere (including my own yard).

 

AwareOne

(404 posts)
33. Central Florida checking in
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:45 AM
Oct 2012

Romney signs are all over my lower middle class, blue collar working class neighborhood. Sometimes they will be in three or four lawns in a row. I have never seen so many and I'm wondering if they went door to door offering them for free. Outnumbering Obama signs like 30 to 1 here. I didn't realize I was surrounded by Republicans until now and I can't understand what these working class people think Romney is going to do for them.

Eddie Haskell

(1,628 posts)
55. You're right
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 09:52 AM
Oct 2012
I can't understand what these working class people think Romney is going to do for them.


It's a sign of stupidity.

RedSpartan

(1,693 posts)
35. After the debate
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:48 AM
Oct 2012

it went from no Obama signs and no Romney signs to no Obama signs and about a dozen Romney signs. I live in the reddest county in NJ. The state is blue, but still...

2theleft

(1,136 posts)
36. In Richmond, VA
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:51 AM
Oct 2012

Not nearly as many for either candidate like there were in '08. The good news is, in the wealthier area of town, percentage wise, we are up. Suburban areas appears about the same percentage wise.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
37. I think there is a difference in the way the 2 campaigns hand out merchandise and use signs
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:30 AM
Oct 2012

Not sure but the Obama campaign seems to hand out signs and campaign merchandise in a more controlled method. For donations or for district leaders. You request a sign rather than pass them out to everyone.

Republicans seem to let more of their party groups sell self created,campaign 'junk-quality' for resale profits. If you look at places like Amazon there are people selling sign packs for high prices, anyone can buy from a sign maker service for 10.00.

Would not be surprised if republicans use tax free campaign donations to wash through their own sign making company. Just like they use campaign funds to buy thousands of their own books.


I think the Republicans spend more $$ to mark the houses of those they work on for the early votes- with a sign. It's a way to make sure your ground hires are actually doing what they are paid for.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
42. Where the HELL do you live?? Alabama?? I have driven 1,000 miles up and down the 5 this week...
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:08 PM
Oct 2012

and I'll tell ya... The Obama stickers and signs?? 5000 to 1. Seriously.

Oh and if you actually ASK people in the campaign, they are NOT wasting money on signs this time. They are putting it into ads and GOTV.

The romney people have the Koch money, and are handing out signs like crazy FREE. But if you look at the cars in the driveways, there are Obama stickers everywhere. Stop.. please stop.

spinbaby

(15,089 posts)
44. Same here
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:16 PM
Oct 2012

I live in a fairly rural part of SW Pennsylvania and we are awash in Romney signs, although I notice that most of them are at public intersections rather than in yards. Obama signs are rare because they're hard to get hold of and get stolen. Even in neighborhoods that had a lot of Obama signs last time around, I'm not seeing any this year.

Iceberg Louie

(190 posts)
47. The an$wer is obviou$
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:21 PM
Oct 2012

Koch Brother$, Citizen$ United, Cro$$road$ GPS, $heldon Adel$on...

Might seem like an oversimplified response, but we know Rmoney doesn't have to apportion out a set amount for sign-printing in his budget. They probably have the resources to wallpaper the whole damn country.

In my very, very, very red city in red state ND, I have yet to see a single Romney sign. The closest I've seen is a rusty Chevy Citation with "Stop Obama" crudely painted on it.

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
64. I assure you
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 01:07 PM
Oct 2012

...there are plenty of Obama signs in PA. It's a large state, so some pockets might differ. Drive by Philly, you may feel better.

beac

(9,992 posts)
58. I drove across Virginia recently, from east to west.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 10:35 AM
Oct 2012

LOTS of Romney signs but they were ALWAYS accompanied by Allen (GOP Senate candidate) signs and a sign for the local Congressional candidate. ALWAYS.

This makes me suspect the local GOP headquarters are giving away these sets free instead of asking for money for them. I saw these three-sets in the front yards of houses that I am pretty certain could not afford to spend $60 on yard signs.

I wouldn't be surprised if the GOP was going door-to-door and offering the signs to households that front on main thoroughfares.

The Obama signs I saw were varied in style (and some saved from '08). They sometimes had local or Senate/Congressional race signs along side, but that was infrequent.

I think the GOP has invested heavily in yards signs while Obama's team is working on a meaningful ground game.

Eddie Haskell

(1,628 posts)
67. Interesting.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 02:26 PM
Oct 2012

After the first debate, I watched neighbors put up a Romney sign. They took pictures of one another with their sign. Given their lower middle class status, I couldn't help thinking it was a sign of stupidity.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
59. I'm seeing lots of Gov /Senate and local signs
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 10:43 AM
Oct 2012

But not one yard sign for either Presidential candidate.

BlueInPhilly

(870 posts)
61. Philly Burb -
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 12:56 PM
Oct 2012

Actually, not a lot of signs in my neighborhood. I have one but I'm not displaying it, because mine was stolen (& later found burned) in 2008. I don't want my house to be the one on fire this year.

But there are no more political ads around here (except for some South NJ guy). A few Casey or Smith here & there, but I enjoy watching TV again.

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
65. In that case, McCain/Palin will win big...
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 01:15 PM
Oct 2012

...based on the bumper stickers I have seen in my area.

I have seen a lot more Obama stickers than Romney stickers, but there have barely been any signs for the past few weeks. The Obama signs are just starting to go up. I would say things are split evenly in my hood as far as signs go, which is representative of this area. It's a light blue county, but there are solid pockets of tea. I live in an area where the guy to the left of me is a liberal and the guy to the right is an Aryan redneck, ya know? Now, the Obama signs around here have been the typical small yard signs. There are two people who have put up big giant Romney signs. I look at that to mean the campaign has a small penis.

There are not as many campaign offices this time around, for either side. If I wanted to go to an office and pick something up, it would be a 30 minute drive. The one closest to me isn't even in a great area. The offices for both sides were closer and more convenient in 2008.

Also, I admit that I don't have my Obama bumper sticker on display because I do fear someone scratching my car. That has happened around here. The tea party types and the racists have gotten louder and more brazen in the last 4 years. It could be that way for other folks.

What does this all mean? Absolutely nothing.

Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
66. signs are meaningless
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 01:30 PM
Oct 2012

First off, many, if not most signs are put on public property like along highways where anyone with a bit of free time can put up hundreds of signs. Such signs do not indicate support for a candidate by anyone. In my town signs on public property are prohibited, mainly due to the failure to take them down after the election, leaving the town a mess.

Signs on peoples' lawns may be a bit more indicative of the level of support but even then it depends on campaign funding. Some campaigns choose to spend money on things like TV ads in expensive markets rather than lawn signs. In NJ, for instance, you rarely see signs for gubernatorial elections because they count against the cap on campaign spending for each candidate and if they spent their money on signs they'd have nothing left to advertise on TV in perhaps the most expensive TV market in America. Now that might be different in an area with cheaper or nonavailable TV advertising capability so maybe in such areas signs might make more sense.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
69. The last governors race had huge signs and small signs but he lost
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 02:46 PM
Oct 2012

I used to get nervous but just think how many Obama signs are getting stolen

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