2016 Postmortem
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blm
(113,150 posts)AmIright?
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)In her own words about what she said in her own words.
You are being intentionally disingenuous. In fact you are making her appear worse by posting such nonsense in the face of such blatant and public dishonesty.
AMIRIGHT!!!
blm
(113,150 posts)in this same narrative groove that was created and deepened by the lies from the GOP's RW propaganda machine. Yes, she's going to be cast as shifty - she's a politician, and steps carefully, and sometimes she IS shifty - it annoys the crap out of me, but, I am not going to pretend that the image and narrative itself, was, indeed, CREATED.
Gore could easily be shown to be uncomfortable - corpmedia ran with the narrative that he was a liar, too. If Saders was running against Gore, you could all be led to to say the same things about him.
The actual lies being told aren't anywhere near in scope to the lies the American people have been told, which is where the 'opinions' about her trustworthiness and 'perceptions' that she is a liar were formed.
Sorry you don't get to force your game of pretend on me. I am a corporate media hawk - I understand the need to show discernment. Try it sometime.
Broward
(1,976 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)for 4-8 years. she makes a mockery of the very idea of truth itself.
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)Politicians do not lie pathologically. They do not lie for the pure pleasure of it, because they enjoy deceiving others, because they dislike others and want to deny them the truth. And so on. Politicians lie because they want to get the most votes they can. So they appear before the Green Hat Society and say, "I think our most pressing need is to encourage more people to wear green hats." The next day, speaking to the Blue Hat Society, the speech is, "The critical issue for our nation is to maximize the freedom to wear blue hats." It's lie, perhaps, or maybe not so much, but it's definitely not the whole truth. They get used to doing this, and it becomes second nature, so it flows out easily, just as it would from a pathological liar, but it's not motivated by any pathology.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)ebayfool
(3,411 posts)Herman4747
(1,825 posts)ebayfool
(3,411 posts)Much gold on the intertubes!
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)THAT takes some extra special audacity, she knows she's lying and she knows the character smear she's trying to put on the other person is completely false. It's lying squared.
That person can't be President. God only knows what she'd be doing every minute of the day behind our backs.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)Herman4747
(1,825 posts)... http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511296616 (comment # 43), one definite concern is that she will, if the nominee, become the Democratic Mitt Romney, blowing a perfectly winnable presidential election through her duplicity.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)probably since childhood. It's painful to watch.
I feel sorry for her sometimes, but that's no reason to vote for her.
Herman4747
(1,825 posts)in November, don't look at it that you are voting for her, think instead that you are voting against the Republican.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)I don't think she is capable of recognizing the truth if it hit her on the behind.
I am reminded of a couple of quotes from that straight-shooting Democratic President Harry Truman about another compulsive liar:
"Richard Nixon is a no-good lying bastard. He can lie out of both sides of his mouth at the same time, and if he ever caught himself telling the truth, hed lie just to keep his hand in. Harry Truman, 1960
"I dont think the son-of-a-bitch (Nixon) knows the difference between truth and lying.