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The Gallup Tracking Poll That Is Freaking Some People Out Was A Three Day Tracker (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 OP
Its actually a 7 day tracker - Rasmussen's 3 day tracker shows the bounce has stalled 7worldtrade Oct 2012 #1
Thanks For The Explanation DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #2
nope gallup broke it out 3 days My Pet Goat Oct 2012 #3
Now I'm More Confused DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #4
thats what i think happened, but My Pet Goat Oct 2012 #5
You have to pay attention to the averaging 7worldtrade Oct 2012 #7
If Nate Silver And Sam Wang Can't "Reverse Engineer" Tracking Polls Neither Can We DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #13
RCP jumped with excitement to post the 47-47 Tie TroyD Oct 2012 #6
Surprised they got around to it Floyd_Gondolli Oct 2012 #14
I thought that Gallup reports their findings at 1 pm every day. Have they moved that up now... hrmjustin Oct 2012 #8
No, their regular Tracking Poll comes out at 1:00 PM TroyD Oct 2012 #9
yes it was strange when i saw it this morning. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #11
It is also the 4th through the 6th. Jennicut Oct 2012 #10
That's Why Objective Social Scientists Don't Rush Into The Field After A Major Event DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #12

7worldtrade

(85 posts)
1. Its actually a 7 day tracker - Rasmussen's 3 day tracker shows the bounce has stalled
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 09:46 AM
Oct 2012

Gallup uses a 7 day rolling average so any big swing in any direction will be muted at first. Gallup merely said that the the last 3 days of interviews have showed a 47-47 tie. the prior 4 days of their tracker had obama at 50 and Romney at 45, so Romney clearly had a bounce and Obama clearly tracked down. the only question is whether the numbers will move back in Obama's favor. If they do, Obama will stay up. If they stay a tie, then once the full 7 days are accounted for the topline numbers will be even.

Rasmussen's 3 day rolling average had Romney going from minus 2 to plus 2 over Obama between Thursday through Saturday. With Sunday's numbers it has gone to 48-48, a tie. This means that Romney had 2 great polling days Thursday and Friday and two less great polling days Saturday and Sunday. The only question is whether the trend will continue back to Obama plus 2.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
2. Thanks For The Explanation
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 09:49 AM
Oct 2012

Does that mean there really wasn't a five point bounce?

Wouldn't you need two three day trackers, one before and one after the debate, to conclude that?

My Pet Goat

(413 posts)
3. nope gallup broke it out 3 days
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 09:51 AM
Oct 2012

during wich it was tied meaning obama probably recovered somewhat on the weenkend.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
4. Now I'm More Confused
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 09:54 AM
Oct 2012

I would think the damage by the debates was mitigated by the repair from the good jobs numbers.

7worldtrade

(85 posts)
7. You have to pay attention to the averaging
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 10:06 AM
Oct 2012

Gallup's top line numbers that show Obama 49 and Romney 46 as of yesterday are based on 7 days of polling. Each day of polls accounts for 1/7 of the top line number. So the top line number as of yesterday reflects 4 days of pre-debate polling where Obama is ahead by 5 and 3 days of post-debate polling where they are polling even at 47-47. Unfortunately, according to Gallup, Obama and Romney were polling even at 47-47 on each day following the debate and the numbers didn't get better on Saturday. We don't know yet about Sunday - those numbers won't be reflected in the average until 1 pm today. But even if Obama starts gaining some its likely that the top number will still go down unless Obama was up by 5 on Sunday (that's because the new average will drop off one pre-debate day where Obama was up by 5 and add yesterday's number, which it would appear will not have Obama up by 5 if they were 47-47 even on Saturday, but I obviously don't know).

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
6. RCP jumped with excitement to post the 47-47 Tie
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 10:02 AM
Oct 2012

On their website this morning.

But I'm assuming they're going to have to replace it at 1:00 PM, because that's when the proper daily Tracking Poll is released.

Yesterday Obama was at (+3), and if Romney came down today in Rasmussen from (+2) to a TIE, I'm assuming Romney isn't going to go up in Gallup.

 

Floyd_Gondolli

(1,277 posts)
14. Surprised they got around to it
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 11:06 AM
Oct 2012

It means they had to take a break from aggregating essays from the Heritage Foundation and content from World Net Daily.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
8. I thought that Gallup reports their findings at 1 pm every day. Have they moved that up now...
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 10:12 AM
Oct 2012

... to the morning.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
9. No, their regular Tracking Poll comes out at 1:00 PM
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 10:17 AM
Oct 2012

If you go to the main Gallup page on the right side, it still shows the latest tracking poll from yesterday as Obama +3:

Obama - 49

Romney - 46

Please also read my post above where I explained it.

http://www.gallup.com/home.aspx

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
10. It is also the 4th through the 6th.
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 10:22 AM
Oct 2012

Did they do new polling Sunday?

Sigh. I hate when polls try to influence things with half truths. Obviously Romney's bump has most likely stalled. Even in those few days he pulled even with President Obama he could not get ahead. He pulled even with Mittens on Rasmussen. Why not just wait until 1:00 to post the 7 day tracker with the new polling data? Unless they want to be a 3-4 day tracker.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
12. That's Why Objective Social Scientists Don't Rush Into The Field After A Major Event
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 10:46 AM
Oct 2012

Even if their findings are statistically sound they have been heavily influence by current events.


On 9/12/01 Bush had a 90% approval rate.

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