Top UN Advisor: Hillary A Danger to World Peace, Lied about UN Treaty, Ruined Kofi Annan's Peace Pla

[amborin]

Top economist, UN advisor and climate activist: "Clinton is a danger to world peace"

Hillary Clinton and the Syrian Bloodbath

by Jeffrey D. Sachs




At Milwaukee Debate, Hillary stated:

But I would add this. You know, the Security Council finally got around to adopting a resolution. At the core of that resolution is an agreement I negotiated in June of 2012 in Geneva, which set forth a cease-fire and moving toward a political resolution, trying to bring the parties at stake in Syria together.

Except, Hillary was blatantly lying:

Dr. Jeffrey Sachs notes:

This is the kind of compulsive misrepresentation that makes Clinton unfit to be President. Clinton's role in Syria has been to help instigate and prolong the Syrian bloodbath, not to bring it to a close.

In 2012, Clinton was the obstacle, not the solution, to a ceasefire being negotiated by UN Special Envoy Kofi Annan.

It was US intransigence - Clinton's intransigence - that led to the failure of Annan's peace efforts in the spring of 2012, a point well known among diplomats.

Despite Clinton's insinuation in the Milwaukee debate, there was (of course) no 2012 ceasefire, only escalating carnage. Clinton bears heavy responsibility for that carnage, which has by now displaced more than 10 million Syrians and left more than 250,000 dead......

from daily kos

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/2/15/1485382/-Top-economist-UN-advisor-and-climate-activist-Clinton-is-a-danger-to-world-peace

[Zorra]

1. link please? Thanks. nt

[amborin]

9. just added them, sorry:

here, too:

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/2/15/1485382/-Top-economist-UN-advisor-and-climate-activist-Clinton-is-a-danger-to-world-peace

[Zorra]

17. Thanks!

[CorporatistNation]

105. Link And ALL Info HERE!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511232595

[newthinking]

108. Hillary is an interventionist, not a peacemaker. She brought on a Neocon (Victoria Nuland)

into high position in her executive staff.

That is my biggest concern about her.

She is the wife of Robert Kagan, a "neocon of neocons".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kagan

I had wondered what the heck that was about. But it looks like "Neo-Liberal" thinkers have effectively signed on to the Neo-Con game plan. Which may be why the neo-cons are still very much in power in our foreign policy.

[peacebird]

2. Hillary would LIE about her record? I am shocked! Shocked, I tell you!

[LW1977]

3. Riiiiiiight

This isn't drudge or free republic! These threads must stop! Where are the moderators, the jury system is failing this website.

[amborin]

4. this is from daily kos and Columbia University Earth Institute

and the UN.

It's scary and un-democratic to suppress the truth.

Sounds as though it's from today's orders from the Clinton campaign

[randome]

8. Judging from what little is posted (without a link)...

...there is no 'truth' here, only someone's opinion. What specifically did Clinton do? Does anyone really think Obama doesn't have a hand in what goes on in foreign policy?

There is nothing to 'suppress' but someone's hyperbolic opinion.

Now that there's a link, I see it even goes into BENGHAZI! territory. There are no facts here, only insinuations.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Aspire to inspire.[/center][/font][hr]

[cali]

16. He isn't just some random (no pun intended) someone

[randome]

20. It's RAN-doh-may, by the way. (Three syllables.)

An Urban Dictionary term that posits in any random Google Image search, you will likely find anime images among the results. And for what it's worth, it is pointedly NOT the other pronunciation, the two-syllable RAN-dohm, which has a less savory meaning.

There still aren't any facts, just an endless litany of American evil, all of which can apparently be laid squarely at Clinton's feet. It goes into lectures about how removing a leader only creates turmoil, a worthy subject of discussion, but not everything America has done for the past 20 years is Clinton's fault.

"And where is the establishment media in this debacle?" he asks. What debacle is that? The fact that the world is fucked up? The fact that America sometimes contributes to the turmoil? If he wants to 'tag' Clinton with something, he needs to provide something to point at, not vague insinuations.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Aspire to inspire.[/center][/font][hr]

[dorkzilla]

44. It's pronounced Bouquet!

[randome]

65. Exactly! There can be a world of difference between different pronunciations!

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Aspire to inspire.[/center][/font][hr]

[840high]

116. Snort. love her

[sulphurdunn]

122. No facts?

Just and endless litany of American evil? Well, the author's statements about Clinton's involvement in the Syrian debacle (that debacle) are posited as facts and can either be proven or disproven. The article never claims that Ms. Clinton is responsible for every debacle in ME foreign policy over the last 20 years. It does make a claim of her complicity. It does not make "vague insinuations" about it. The article concludes that the ME, and by your logic the world, is more fucked up because of her contributions.

[leveymg]

21. Apparently, some here have no idea who Jeffrey Sachs is, and no idea what HRC did in Syria as SOS.

Last edited Mon Feb 15, 2016, 01:25 PM - Edit history (1)

Jeffrey David Sachs (/ˈsæks/; born November 5, 1954) is an American economist and director of the Earth Institute at Columbia University. He is known as one of the world's leading experts on economic development and the fight against poverty.

Sachs is the Quetelet Professor of Sustainable Development at Columbia's School of International and Public Affairs and a professor of health policy and management at Columbia's School of Public Health. He is special adviser to United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon on the Millennium Development Goals, having held the same position under former UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan. He is co-founder and chief strategist of Millennium Promise Alliance, a nonprofit organization dedicated to ending extreme poverty and hunger. From 2002 to 2006, he was director of the United Nations Millennium Project's work on the Millennium Development Goals, eight internationally sanctioned objectives to reduce extreme poverty, hunger, and disease by the year 2015. He is director of the UN Sustainable Development Solutions Network. Since 2010 he also served as a commissioner for the Broadband Commission for Digital Development, which leverages broadband technologies as a key enabler for social and economic development.[3] Since 1995, he is also a member of the International Advisory Council of the Center for Social and Economic Research (CASE).

Sachs has authored three New York Times bestsellers: The End of Poverty (2005), Common Wealth (2008), and The Price of Civilization (2011). His most recent book is The Age of Sustainable Development (2015). He was named one of Time Magazine's "100 Most Influential People in the World" in 2004 and 2005, and was awarded the Blue Planet Prize in 2015 for his contributions to solving global environmental problems.[4]

Prof. Sachs is correct. Clinton effectively scuttled the 2012 Geneva talks by insisting that Assad had to give up power and could not participate in a transitional government. Wiki:

June 2012 Geneva "action group"

An "action group" conference (now referred to as Geneva I Conference on Syria) was held on Saturday 30 June 2012, in Geneva, initiated by the then UN peace envoy to Syria Kofi Annan,[6] and attended by US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov, a representative of China, British Foreign Secretary Hague, and Kofi Annan.[8] Mr Annan, issuing a communiqué,[7] said that the conference agreed [11] on the need for a "transitional government body with full executive powers" which could include members of the present Syrian government and of the opposition.[8] William Hague said that all five permanent members of the UN Security Council – the US, Russia, China, France and the UK – supported Mr Annan’s efforts.[8] Clinton however suggested that Syrian dictator Assad could, in such transitional government, not remain in power, which immediately was contradicted by Lavrov.[8]

[Spitfire of ATJ]

38. "Assad had to give up power and could not participate in a transitional government."

Sounds like the De-Baathification of Iraq all over again.

[leveymg]

47. The outcome would have been massive ethnic cleansing of non-Sunni Muslims and other minorities

No wonder the Alawite continued to fight. They would have been exterminated.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

59. The Clintons are so used to counting former enemies as friends that they assume everyone does....

In the Middle East they still consider genocide to be a natural part of conquest.

Like when Joshua crossed the river Jordan and invented Canaan fodder.

[roguevalley]

69. Her actions have the stench of kissinger

[Spitfire of ATJ]

93. I don't think Kissinger laughed at an assassination.

[rhett o rick]

101. I doubt that he ever laughed. nm

[Broward]

7. Yes, we must bury the truth.

[SammyWinstonJack]

33. Setting the record straight, telling the truth and stop the lies, that must stop?

[passiveporcupine]

75. You really need to read the article instead of instantly dismissing this as RTP

Since then and until the recent fragile UN Security Council accord, the US has refused to agree to any ceasefire unless Assad is first deposed. The US policy--under Clinton and until recently--has been: regime change first, ceasefire after. After all, it's only Syrians who are dying. Annan's peace efforts were sunk by the United States' unbending insistence that U.S.-led regime change must precede or at least accompany a ceasefire.

The hubris of the United States in this approach seems to know no bounds. The tactic of CIA-led regime change is so deeply enmeshed as a "normal" instrument of U.S. foreign policy that it is hardly noticed by the U.S. public or media.

As long as we keep the neocon and thirdway establishment intact, we really will never learn.

RTP (Republican Talking Points)

[malletgirl02]

77. This is not Republican talking points.

It is criticism for the left.

[kryptoniandawn]

78. Clinton supporter

Clinton supporter: All news about Hillary is a lie. Unless it's positive. Has that happened yet?

[notadmblnd]

97. Why must they stop?

[DURHAM D]

5. Wow. She is way more powerful than I realized.

She controls everything.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

14. Controls? not quite.

Causes harm? Quite.

[Lorien]

19. That's the best response you have to this? That's your "defense"?

You do realize that Bernie supporters are giving you softballs compared to what the GOP will dish out to her, right? The denial has to end; due to Hillary's actions and positions on the issues she doesn't have a prayer of winning a general election. Bernie gains momentum every day with voters from across the political spectrum. If you can't offer a credible defense of your candidate, doesn't that suggest that she may not be a candidate worthy of your support?

[99th_Monkey]

23. +10

[Duval]

29. Correct! The GOP is going to hammer this home big time. nt

[Dustlawyer]

39. +11!!!!

Where are the Wall Street speech transcripts to prove you (Hillary) walk the walk and not just talk the talk? Show us where you told the Wall Street banks to "cut it out?" This would prove that you are serious about Wall Street reform and not just lying and being hypocritical.

What? You wont release them until "Everyone else does," and then you will still have to "think about it" if they all do? To me this is the most disgusting, disingenuous, lie (cover up) of all! I would think that with your "trust issues" that you would jump at the chance to prove how tough you are on the big Wall Street banks, and that you were not lying to over 300 million Americans when you told us that you told them to "cut it out?"

[DhhD]

26. Clinton chose to work for other than peace. Working for war, in supporting her?

[dlwickham]

62. She's all powerful

Didn't you know that

Duh

[polly7]

104. The people fleeing by the tens of thousands

and drowning at sea certainly have no control. Nor do all those who've had family members kidnapped, raped, brutally murdered as a result of the vacuums left behind in Libya and Iraq.

She certainly did have some control over that. It's too bad she didn't choose to use it in a more humane, thoughtful way.

[amborin]

10. if Hillary were the nominee, she would NOT win in the GE

[m-lekktor]

11. what difference does it make? This is about Hillary Clinton , Bernie is going to be the DEM nominee.

[Lorien]

15. You SOUND like a Republican with this post. Hillary's actions have doomed her candidacy

she can't possibly win. By refusing to face this fact it's those of you who support Hillary who would doom us to a President Trump or Cruz. Bernie is the only true progressive running and the most "centrist" candidate. He has the best shot at beating the GOP; the polls prove that. Hillary has triple the negative ratings that any candidate has ever had who has won office. SHE CANNOT WIN.

So the question has to be; are you trolling for the right? What ISSUES do you disagree with Bernie on? Why not help a liberal progressive to win instead of beating a dead horse and hoping for a positive outcome?

[7962]

56. Well, Trump DOES have higher negatives than Hillary. nt

[Lorien]

61. Link? And seriously, that's the best defense anyone has??

I've tried to get ANY kind of well reasoned, issues based argument from Hillary supporters for why I or anyone else should support their candidate. Nothing. None of her supporters have posted anything that's even mildly persuasive. I *want* to like Hillary, but they're making it impossible. If every challenge is met with insults, personal attacks, projection and weak snide quips, then that bodes very ill for her in the General Election.

[7962]

91. You really need a link? Its been out for awhile! But here 'tis:

http://www.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/188936/trump-negative-image.aspx
He the only one with worse numbers than Hillary

And i didnt post that as a pro-hillary post, just stating the fact thats all. I agree with your assessment

[Carolina]

60. Bingo

"Hillary has triple the negative ratings that any candidate has ever had who has won office."

Add to that all the baggage from her past ('her record'); and now that Bill is out there, he's fair game as well.

The Clintons (2 for 1 again) will mobilize the GOP in a way the GOP candidates themselves can't. She will not win the independent voters who justifiably don't trust her and then she will likely lose some Dems who are totally disgusted by her lies and despicable campaign tactics.

She's in it for herself, she plays sexist gender politics, she LIES about her alleged record, she changes her mind with the political winds, she panders, she pads her pockets, and she is the a third way, triangulator to her core.

[7962]

92. Cant add anything to that.

[amborin]

126. hillary would lose in a landslide

[Broward]

18. Are you projecting?

[7962]

54. Recent polls show Sanders beating the GOP just like Hillary has

So your fear doesnt really mean a lot. 6 months ago you had an argument, but not anymore.

"If we dont vote for Hillary, the GOP wins!" no longer holds water

[passiveporcupine]

86. Your meme is old and stale

Bernie will blast through any Republican opposition. Hillary is a liability. If you want to keep the white house we need to put Bernie up in the general.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

12. Well, she has her vast experience to rely on. See Iraq, Honduras, Libya, Syria for examples.

Not to mention advice from Ultra-expert Henry Kissinger.

[AzDar]

13. K & R

[CharlotteVale]

22. K&R

[Uncle Joe]

24. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, amborin.

[99th_Monkey]

25. This makes me SO damn glad Bernie is in this race, and in it to WIN.

As if I needed another reason. Clinton's an unmitigated disaster in the making,
and wouldn't have a prayer in the GE.

[amborin]

128. +1000000

[Kip Humphrey]

27. "only escalating carnage" - Clearly, Hillary is following in the footsteps of her mentor, advice,

and dear friend, Henry Kissinger.

[cantbeserious]

28. HRC Has Only One Ambition - To Feed Her Ego As President - The 99% Be Damned

eom

[SammyWinstonJack]

35. Nailed it!

[intersectionality]

30. Does anyone here know who Jeffrey Sachs is?

He is, according to Naomi Klein, the economist who pioneered shock therapy economics and led the charge to economically disrupt the global south and Russia, as well as pacific rim and South Africa, in order for American corporations to raid those countries of capital and resources. This is a disgusting human being. FYI - anti-capitalist in the Bernie camp. Don't go citing dogs because they've all got fucking murder on their minds and fleas that carry the murder-for-money disease with them. Knowing what Sachs is responsible for and how he has distorted that destruction to gain a chair at Columbia with some innocuous title attached, I doubt his words have any real credibility at all.

[avaistheone1]

34. According to the progressive website Common Dreams....

Jeffrey D. Sachs is the Director of The Earth Institute, Professor of Sustainable Development, and Professor of Health Policy and Management at Columbia University. He is Special Advisor to United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on the Millennium Development Goals, having held the same position under former UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan. He is Director of the UN Sustainable Development Solutions Network. He is co-founder and Chief Strategist of Millennium Promise Alliance, and is director of the Millennium Villages Project. A recent survey by The Economist Magazine ranked Professor Sachs as among the world’s three most influential living economists of the past decade. Sachs is the author, most recently, of “The Age of Sustainable Development," 2015 with Ban Ki-moon.

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/02/14/hillary-clinton-and-syrian-bloodbath


He doesn't sound like the bad guy here. Rather it is sounds like Hillary Clinton is responsible.

[Fast Walker 52]

49. what the hell-- are there two different Jeffrey Sachs?

[intersectionality]

50. Looks like common dreams didn't read shock doctrine either

Nt

[questionseverything]

67. some discussion on that

Shock Doctrine lays into Sachs with gusto. She claims the taming of Bolivian hyperinflation in the 1970s, an act of economic wizardry that helped make Sachs's name, was only achieved through government repression that she calls "a kind of junta lite". Later in Poland the free-market shock therapy he encouraged caused a full-blown depression, she contends.

"Well, come on, let's have some sense of proportion," is Sachs's slightly peeved reply when I put Klein's case to him. "Poland ended up the most successful recovery, with robust democratic institutions, and I couldn't be more thrilled. Oppression in Bolivia? That's just factually wrong. There was no loss of life. When she called it Pinochet lite - I mean, Pinochet killed thousands and tortured tens of thousands. Bolivia was a 30-day emergency rule under the constitution at a time of 50,000% inflation."

But Sachs agrees with Klein that the US abdicated responsibility after the collapse of the Soviet Union. He says it felt as though he were shouting in the middle of a hurricane as his recommendations for debt cancellation and emergency loans for Russia were not listened to by the defence secretary in George Bush Sr's administration: one Dick Cheney.

Which brings us to Sachs's greatest complaint. His book argues that the administration of George W Bush has stood in the way of progress on all the most critical fronts: from family planning, to aid in Africa and action against climate change. Instead, it has pursued a relentlessly militaristic path in which the US now spends almost as much money on warfare as the rest of the world combined.

http://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2008/apr/05/climatechange.usa

[Bohunk68]

120. Thank you for sharing this with us. It adds clarity

in a muddied situation. I trust the Guardian a lot. I am sure more of this will play out.

[questionseverything]

123. i am old enough to remember seeing oliver north on cspan admit to running drugs and guns for the

contras.....right before they went to closed session, so i believe the cia is capable of anything

octafish posted this from the article and it bears repeating

EXCERPT...

And where is the establishment media in this debacle? The New York Times finally covered a bit of this story last month in describing the CIA-Saudi connection, in which Saudi funds are used to pay for CIA operations in order to make an end-run around Congress and the American people. The story ran once and was dropped. Yet the Saudi funding of CIA operations is the same basic tactic used by Ronald Reagan and Oliver North in the Iran-Contra scandal of the 1980s (with Iranian arms sales used to fund CIA-led covert operations in Central America without consent or oversight by the American people).

Clinton herself has never shown the least reservation or scruples in deploying this instrument of U.S. foreign policy. Her record of avid support for US-led regime change includes (but is not limited to) the US bombing of Belgrade in 1999, the invasion of Afghanistan in 2001, the Iraq War in 2003, the Honduran coup in 2009, the killing of Libya's Muammar Qaddafi in 2011, and the CIA-coordinated insurrection against Assad from 2011 until today.

It takes great presidential leadership to resist CIA misadventures. Presidents get along by going along with arms contractors, generals, and CIA operatives. They thereby also protect themselves from political attack by hardline right-wingers. They succeed by exulting in U.S. military might, not restraining it. Many historians believe that JFK was assassinated as a result of his peace overtures to the Soviet Union, overture he made against the objections of hardline rightwing opposition in the CIA and other parts of the U.S. government.

CONTINUED...

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/2/15/1485382/-Top-economist-UN-advisor-and-climate-activist-Clinton-is-a-danger-to-world-peace

[MisterP]

41. yeah, cutting 300M people's lifespans by 10 years puts you up there

Pol Pot, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Sachs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Cross
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Russian_constitutional_crisis

[Uponthegears]

51. Hyperbole much?

[Uponthegears]

68. When Naomi Klein

endorses Hillary Clinton OR contests the accuracy of Sachs' statement about Hillary scuttling a peaceful Syrian resolution, you let me know. She absolutely hates Hillary and has accused her of using outright blackmail to pressure the rest of the world into accepting a sh***y and ineffective climate treaty.

"So it’s a horrible choice that the United States has put before the world: accept a completely unacceptable agreement that will not solve the climate crisis, or receive no money to deal with the effects of that crisis, which you are already living — the droughts, the floods, the malaria.

You know, I just blogged about this, and the headline I put on is "Climate Structural Adjustment,” because this is what the International Monetary Fund was so famous for doing. You need help? Your country is collapsing? Here’s our list of demands: privatize your water, lay off your people. But this is on a massive, massive scale. So, yeah, I would call it blackmail. And I think that, unfortunately, countries are so desperate for aid that they may well accept this terrible deal. And that’s — those are the stakes here."

http://www.democracynow.org/2009/12/17/a_naked_form_of_blackmail_naomi

[zentrum]

31. I'm a Bernie Supporter

……but have to ask: Is this Clinton's doing or was she just carrying out Obama's directives? The relationship between the SOS and the WH is really not clear to me. I mean, she wasn't independent—was she?

[amborin]

32. Hillary had major influence in Libya, and to a large degree in Syria, she derailed Obama's

plans in both countries.

don't have time to get links now

[zentrum]

99. Got it. Good, I'll look for it. Thx.

[Thinkingabout]

36. Do you have any accomplishments Sanders has done?

Do you have any examples of accomplishments Sanders has been involved which would show his ability to function as president of the US?

[roguevalley]

71. he has never killed anyone for money. your turn

[Thinkingabout]

90. I dont see this as an accomplishment, I haven't

Ever killed anyone but have made some accomplishments. If you don't know of any accomplishments Sanders has it is okay to say you don't know of any accomplishments he has.

[Ed Suspicious]

83. Yes.

[femmedem]

110. Health care for 10 million people and played an important role in passage of Affordable Care Act

"... perhaps his most significant achievement — providing health care to an additional 10 million mostly low-income Americans by getting Senate majority leader Harry Reid to add $11 billion in funding for community health centers that provide care regardless of a person’s ability to pay to the 2010 Affordable Care Act in exchange for Sanders rallying liberal Democrats who were considering voting against the bill once conservative Democrats removed the public option..."

and lots more here .

[fbc]

37. Her job performance as Senator and Secretary of State was abysmal.

Her supporters want to hype her "experience", but that experience is very light and replete with extremely poor decision making.

[Skwmom]

40. Don't worry. Women will support this. (sarcasm intended).

[blackspade]

42. If factual, this is a damning indictment of her foreign policy cred....

[Duppers]

43. K & R

This thread is too very important to be ignored.

[truthseeker1]

45. K&R

[Helen Borg]

46. No wonder she likes Kissinger...

[tularetom]

58. Hell, no wonder Kissinger likes HER

The nut doesn't fall far from the tree.

[Helen Borg]

74. Hahaha!

[Fuddnik]

111. Or in this case,

The tree didn't fall far from the nut.

[panader0]

48. K and R

[avaistheone1]

52. More on Jeffrey Sachs background. Quite impressive.

http://jeffsachs.org/2012/03/what-i-did-in-russia/

It appears that the Clinton followers are attempting to smear his reputation because he dares speak the truth about him.

[bigtree]

79. a not very impressive smear job of Hillary

...who was Secretary of State.

This fellow has served as a low level adviser at the U.N. on economic issues. He's offered an opinion based on his limited knowledge of administration policy and operations. He's not infallible or immune from criticism and most of what he's written has been rebutted by the Obama administration.

[SunSeeker]

53. Sachs is not a "Top UN Advisor." He's an economist with no special security expertise.

He is Special Advisor to United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on the Millennium Development Goals, as noted at the end of his Common Dreams hit piece.
http://www.commondreams.org/author/jeffrey-d-sachs

He makes the broad claim that "It was US intransigence - Clinton's intransigence - that led to the failure of Annan's peace efforts in the spring of 2012, a point well known among diplomats." But he offers no quotes from any actual diplomats to back this up. He is certainly not one.

In addition to mouthing conspiracy theories about why JFK was assassinated and what Ambassador Stevens was doing in Benghazi, he makes this rather ironic swipe at Hillary:

Her record of avid support for US-led regime change includes (but is not limited to) the US bombing of Belgrade in 1999, the invasion of Afghanistan in 2001,...

He suggests this is proof she doesn't have the presidential qualifications needed to stand up to the CIA. Yet Bernie supported both of these "misadventures," so under Sachs' rules, Bernie is disqualified too.

[EndElectoral]

55. Yes, she spouts these assertions which when fact checked are frankly misrepresentations at best

It's quite troubling and her supposed strength, foreign policy, is in fact a house of cards.

[backscatter712]

57. She's experienced. Learned everything she knows from Henry Kissinger... n/t

[bbgrunt]

63. K n R!!

[tularetom]

64. I like the term "compulsive misrepresentation" as a description of what is wrong with this woman

She knows she's lying, she knows its going to be discovered and made public, she knows she's going to take a ration of crap for doing it, she knows it will hurt her campaign - and yet she goes ahead and lies anyway.

I really have to question the stability of someone who does this. She has issues that won't be resolved by winning the presidency.

[John Poet]

66. Hillary Autoresponse #247

Message Ends

[Dragonfli]

117. Look up: Pathological lying (also called pseudologia fantastica and mythomania) /nt

It is relevant to a potential disorder than may answer some of your questions about stability.

[thereismore]

70. One huge mistake by Obama: nominating her for SoS.

[SDJay]

89. I Think He Had To

if you remember, what with the PUMA stuff and the really, really nasty primary, the party was in a difficult spot when Obama got the nomination. I still think it was nastier than this one, although we've got a long way to go yet in '16. Then-Senator Obama and HRC really needed to hug it out in some way to bring folks back together. Offering HRC a plum position to allow her stature to skyrocket was the way to do it. If he hadn't, we may have had a lot of Ds sitting out in November, even though we'll never know that.

Either way, HRC came around and did a fantastic job helping Obama become POTUS. I admired her for that. Without this help, we may have had President McGrumpyGramps and Vice President Churchy Spice. /shudders/

I don't blame PBO for nominating her one bit.

[farleftlib]

96. I think so too

Yet another case of quid pro quo. Another example of Hillary getting something she never earned through her abilities, but through leverage.

[Fuddnik]

112. He did it to keep her from running against him again in 2012.

The old adage about keeping your enemies closer.

[Blue_Tires]

72. So Hillary is to blame in Syria and not Putin or whoever...

ok....

[bigtree]

73. Sachs is speaking for himself

...in a very partisan way.

[H2O Man]

76. Yes, of course he is.

[bigtree]

80. his opinion is worth what we paid for it

[H2O Man]

81. Respectfully disagree.

I prefer to focus on the issues he raises, rather than resorting to attacks on him as a person. But, of course, I haven't contributed a cent to the pay that you speak of.

What do you think about the issues he raises?

[bigtree]

85. He's presented here as some expert on administration policy

...and he provides only tangential, at best, evidence of his claims on Libya.

I read down to the part where he begins to provide background for his charges and I find he's basing Clinton's culpability on the assertion that Chris Stevens was 'running a CIA operation to ship Libyan heavy weapons to Syria.'

Looked for evidence in the article he provided and found a claim by CNN that there were CIA agents on the ground at the time of the embassy attack. NOWHERE in that article he linked to is ANYTHING indicating Stevens was 'running a CIA operation.

This is part and parcel of the Benghazi smear right wing critics of the administration, and Hillary by extension, have been trying to convince us is something other then their vivid imagination. Now this tripe has been adopted by the left in a cynical attempt to blame the Obama administration for Mideast unrest.

I can't find much more than opinion in this hit piece and it's worth whatever someone feels it is to their agenda. His opinion goes into the file with the rest of the unproven, right-wing-leveraged nonsense which republicans have been unable to articulate without innuendo, weak associations, and outright bullshit.

[Oilwellian]

94. There were several reports about CIA gun running from Libya to Syria

Here's one that mentions other reports as well:

The official position is that the U.S. has refused to allow heavy weapons into Syria.

But there's growing evidence that U.S. agents — particularly murdered ambassador Chris Stevens — were at least aware of heavy weapons moving from Libya to jihadist Syrian rebels.

In March 2011 Stevens became the official U.S. liaison to the al-Qaeda-linked Libyan opposition, working directly with Abdelhakim Belhadj of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group — a group that has now disbanded, with some fighters reportedly participating in the attack that took Stevens' life.

In November 2011 The Telegraph reported that Belhadj, acting as head of the Tripoli Military Council, "met with Free Syrian Army [FSA] leaders in Istanbul and on the border with Turkey" in an effort by the new Libyan government to provide money and weapons to the growing insurgency in Syria.

Last month The Times of London reported that a Libyan ship "carrying the largest consignment of weapons for Syria … has docked in Turkey." The shipment reportedly weighed 400 tons and included SA-7 surface-to-air anti-craft missiles and rocket-propelled grenades.

Those heavy weapons are most likely from Muammar Gaddafi's stock of about 20,000 portable heat-seeking missiles—the bulk of them SA-7s—that the Libyan leader obtained from the former Eastern bloc. Reuters reports that Syrian rebels have been using those heavy weapons to shoot down Syrian helicopters and fighter jets.

The ship's captain was "a Libyan from Benghazi and the head of an organization called the Libyan National Council for Relief and Support," which was presumably established by the new government.

That means that Ambassador Stevens had only one person—Belhadj—between him and the Benghazi man who brought heavy weapons to Syria.

Furthermore, we know that jihadists are the best fighters in the Syrian opposition, but where did they come from?

Business Insider

[Erelis]

82. Clinton could have peacefully resolved the fighting in Syria.

In 2012 the Russians approached the US, England, and France that they would support and help with a plan to peacefully eased out Assad. This according the a Finnish Noble Peace Prize winner named Martti Ahtisaari. They all rejected Russia's help thinking that Assad would be violently overthrown. At that time according to the article, about 10K dead from civil war.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/15/west-ignored-russian-offer-in-2012-to-have-syrias-assad-step-aside

Clinton was Secretary of State at the time. And Susan Rice was UN ambassador at the time.

“We should have prevented this from happening because this is a self-made disaster, this flow of refugees to our countries in Europe,” Ahtisaari said. “I don’t see any other option but to take good care of these poor people … We are paying the bills we have caused ourselves.

”

[Arazi]

84. Welcome to DU! You beat me to posting this article

HRC's war mongering is an important reason she's the wrong person for the presidency



Great addition!

[Erelis]

88. Thanks.

It seems like every president now has to start or escalate some war to prove that "security creds". Obama did that with the escalation in Afghanistan. Obama picked easy targets--some outgunned third world crazies. I am not so sure about Clinton. She all but said she would look for any excuse to bomb Iran, and what about Russia? Given her general lack of judgement on these matters, we could be looking at some major war with her as president.

[passiveporcupine]

87. Interesting add-on here

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=15667

Phyllis Bennis is a Fellow and the Director of the New Internationalism Project at the Institute for Policy Studies in Washington D.C. She is the author of Understanding the Palestinian-Israeli Conflict: A Primer, Before and After: US Foreign Policy and the September 11 Crisis, Ending the US War in Afghanistan: A Primer and Understanding the US-Iran Crisis: A Primer. Her most recent book is Understanding ISIS and the New Global War on Terror: A Primer.

there is a video at link of her talking about the differences between Bernie and Clinton on foreign policy, regime change, and Kissinger. She even has some criticism of Bernie (which I agree with) on regime change in Syria. But she mostly addresses Clinton's war hawk policies.

[Oilwellian]

95. Love Phyllis Bennis

She would be a great addition to Bernie's foreign policy advisory team.

[Octafish]

98. MIC needs to be held to account.

Sachs sums it up:

EXCERPT...

And where is the establishment media in this debacle? The New York Times finally covered a bit of this story last month in describing the CIA-Saudi connection, in which Saudi funds are used to pay for CIA operations in order to make an end-run around Congress and the American people. The story ran once and was dropped. Yet the Saudi funding of CIA operations is the same basic tactic used by Ronald Reagan and Oliver North in the Iran-Contra scandal of the 1980s (with Iranian arms sales used to fund CIA-led covert operations in Central America without consent or oversight by the American people).

Clinton herself has never shown the least reservation or scruples in deploying this instrument of U.S. foreign policy. Her record of avid support for US-led regime change includes (but is not limited to) the US bombing of Belgrade in 1999, the invasion of Afghanistan in 2001, the Iraq War in 2003, the Honduran coup in 2009, the killing of Libya's Muammar Qaddafi in 2011, and the CIA-coordinated insurrection against Assad from 2011 until today.

It takes great presidential leadership to resist CIA misadventures. Presidents get along by going along with arms contractors, generals, and CIA operatives. They thereby also protect themselves from political attack by hardline right-wingers. They succeed by exulting in U.S. military might, not restraining it. Many historians believe that JFK was assassinated as a result of his peace overtures to the Soviet Union, overture he made against the objections of hardline rightwing opposition in the CIA and other parts of the U.S. government.

CONTINUED...

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/2/15/1485382/-Top-economist-UN-advisor-and-climate-activist-Clinton-is-a-danger-to-world-peace

We need integrity. BFEE is how we got here.

[amborin]

114. absolutely; the one exception, perhaps, is arming Syrian rebels; the CIA's own analysis determined t

that arming rebels usually failed to accomplish stated goals and they advised against this in Syria. But
Hillary convinced Obama that arming rebels was a good idea.....

[greymouse]

102. yet another fail for Clinton in foreign policy

Another mess is revealed. Iraq, Libya into civil war chaos, Haiti an economic mess, now this. It would be hard to find someone with a worse foreign policy record.

[Nitram]

103. Yup Clinton is the Anti-Christ and will destroy the world if the becomes president.

Oh my!

[polly7]

115. She's already helped destroy the world for a lot of people.

But because they're outside the U.S., they don't matter.

[Nyan]

106. "Clinton is a danger to world peace."

To that I say "Duh..."
Every single neocon in Wwashington is a danger to world peace.

[billhicks76]

107. She's Simply A Liar I Guess

Liars are bad people. Period.

[jalan48]

109. Ugh. Are these the kinds of people who have taken control of our party?

[amborin]

127. yes

[Pauldg47]

113. We must now win this for Bernie !!!!

[Betty Karlson]

118. So much for experience. Hers is actualy a disqualification.

She cannot be trusted; she is unelectable. She is the biggest risk the Democratic Party could take in the GE.

[downeastdaniel]

119. Thanks for posting, I'm now sharing this on Facebook. Can't hurt...

[Enthusiast]

121. Kicked and recommended!

[d_legendary1]

124. War is peace, oppresion is freedom

Never thought I'd see the day where these right wing slogans could be used on a Democrat.

[sorechasm]

125. Only the hardest of hearts could ignore what devastation became Syria as a result of

policies enacted while Hillary Clinton was SOS, when she insisted that Assad must go.

The U.S. policy was a massive, horrific failure. Assad did not go, and was not defeated. Russia came to his support. Iran came to his support. The mercenaries sent in to overthrow him were themselves radical jihadists with their own agendas. The chaos opened the way for the Islamic State, building on disaffected Iraqi Army leaders (deposed by the US in 2003), on captured U.S. weaponry, and on the considerable backing by Saudi funds. If the truth were fully known, the multiple scandals involved would surely rival Watergate in shaking the foundations of the US establishment.

[amborin]

129. Dr. Jeffrey Sachs fully realizes who and what HRC is