2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCapehart removes the picture of "Not Bernie" from his twitter page, replaces it with lawn sign
(cross-posted from the Bernie Group)
https://twitter.com/CapehartJ/status/698190063016906752
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)He needs to just say he was 100% wrong and accept the ire, rather than sugar coat.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Yeah, that is not a picture of Sanders... after all. Heh.
I never even recall hearing about this guy before this so if he comes out and gives a sincere apology about being biased and crap and not thinking critically then he can come out ahead in my eyes.
We'll see what happens.
But he definitely stepped in it.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)Response to joshcryer (Reply #23)
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Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)"Hands up, dont shoot was built on a lie"
"They have also forced me to deal with two uncomfortable truths: Brown never surrendered with his hands up, and Wilson was justified in shooting Brown.......
What DOJ found made me ill. Wilson knew about the theft of the cigarillos from the convenience store and had a description of the suspects. Brown fought with the officer and tried to take his gun. And the popular hands-up storyline, which isnt corroborated by ballistic and DNA evidence and multiple witness statements, was perpetuated by Witness 101. In fact, just about everything said to the media by Witness 101, whom we all know as Dorian Johnson, the friend with Brown that day, was not supported by the evidence and other witness statements."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2015/03/16/lesson-learned-from-the-shooting-of-michael-brown/
I'm surprised he's seen as having any credibility at all. DUers who promoted such opinions were not well received at all but Jonathan continues his Twitter based, researched after the fact so called 'journalism'.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)But thanks for the reminder of that, to be frank, I hadn't recalled hearing of him until now.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Danny Lyon, a famous man, about the photograph Danny took before Capehart was even born. That's not journalism that is gossip based fiction.
I'm surprised that DU, which was so strongly supportive of the people of Ferguson, are willing to defend this self promotional hack. Some of his defenders on DU utterly destroyed DUers who took Capehart's position on the shooting of Michael Brown. But they love Capehart because today he's useful to them, which says plenty.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Bless you.
I didn't know Capehart was pro-Brown murder nor that DUers disliked him then but supported him now.
I'm sure you could provide specific links to those allegations. If you are "afraid" of a jury hiding them, feel free to PM, and I will openly respond with said links. I have never failed to provide links to DUers own words, and, as yet, I have never gotten a hide for it. So show the fucking links, because I find this allegation egregious and would happily add those people to my ignore. No, I would want to put those people on ignore.
Put up or PM and I will. I mean it. It's simple.
Note: if you don't actually PM me these links I will consider you full of it.
mythology
(9,527 posts)they were wrong about the Michael Brown shooting, or that they jumped to conclusions that weren't supported by the evidence.
Capeheart admitted he was wrong. That's more than a lot of people did.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)internet. At least it should be. Further, DUers who took those positions were castigated and not forgiven. Capehart back tracked only after days of paining himself as the victim. If nothing else his credibility should be highly doubted when compared to that of Danny Lyon who has over 50 years of excellence and sound reporting, 50 years of brave and righteous words and actions.
Odd that you think people who get paid to 'report' should be just as free to be full of shit and lies as anyone posting on DU. I do not agree at all.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)of his apology. He's a Hillaryite.
concreteblue
(626 posts)Any apologies yet?
Avalux
(35,015 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Avalux
(35,015 posts)The sign is covered in snow. Capehart would never endorse Bernie.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Sunlight is a great disinfectant. They are being exposed.
840high
(17,196 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)JimDandy
(7,318 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)snorting cocaine off of a Bernie sign?
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)Color me surprised.
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Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Just Asking Questions and all that.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Too bad he's not so concerned with obvious socks and admitted trolls.
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R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Too funny.
PonyUp
(1,680 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)Saying in a roundabout way that Bernie is not presidential. And also making it seem, to those not in the know, that he always had that picture there.
This is very odd indeed.
Any self-respecting objective journalist would make a retraction and apology.
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Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)"Not so cut and dry."
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JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Maybe he is confused about how his job is supposed to work because of how twitter sorts the timeline.
Iggy Knorr
(247 posts)"Spent the day doing my job. Reporting. Getting the facts. Thinking before writing. New Bernie photo piece coming soon. Not so cut and dry."
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)embarrassing himself on the internet.
He won't be fired. He is useful.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)We are witnessing marching orders in action.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)but he had his ass handed to him. He humiliated himself. But he will have a long a prosperous career as a shill to whomever wields power.
jillan
(39,451 posts)He thought he could get away with it.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)And *crickets*.
jillan
(39,451 posts)It takes a big man to admit to the public he f-ed up.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)...he got the Washington Post.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)R B Garr
(16,954 posts)interviewed someone?! Scary.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Even potentially get hard hitting pieces.
Clickbait checkbook journalism has to start somewhere!
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)enigmatic
(15,021 posts)I'm sure he's being "paid" handsomely.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Here's the staff list: https://theintercept.com/staff/
Check off the founding editors.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)joshcryer
(62,270 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)joshcryer
(62,270 posts)The discussion was about checkbook / clickbait journalism.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)you don't like it because it's critical of the Obama administration and rightly so. it's one of the best investigative resources out there, political party partisans will never like it.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Identity politics, in their very nature, do. Clinton is trying to channel it to great benefit.
If I bothered, or maybe wanted to get some decent money, I'd spend 16 hours a day rebutting each and every rhetorically bankrupt Intercept article. But 1) I don't care about being profit and 2) I really really don't care.
Oh, and 3) because The Intercept is backed by a literal oligarch, a fucking billionaire, a simple blogger is not going to have much sway against its rhetoric.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)the editor in chief?
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)But not those who seek it out, it's super profitable. Easy money, too.
asuhornets
(2,405 posts)R B Garr
(16,954 posts)It also looks like his harassers didn't watch him on Chris Matthews last night.
cui bono
(19,926 posts).
asuhornets
(2,405 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)it says he knew what what was doing when he did it , getting the lie out in WaPo was the mission and he did it- a despareate attempt by Team Weathervain to hold on to it's remaining demographic
femmedem
(8,203 posts)Not an endorsement.
Donkees
(31,406 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)In some cases the order of actions makes a vital difference, examples include pulling down one's drawers prior to defecation as opposed to the other way around. Condoms go on before the sex, not after, this is key to proper efficacy.
It is not always possible to simply and safely reverse the established protocols.
So it really is best to ask the person who shot the photo about that photo before you go on TV with your 'opinion' about that photo taken when you were not yet born, characterizing and mocking a Presidential candidate in the Democratic Party who is supported by millions of Americans.
Capehart shits on democracy for his own advancement, to give himself something to fuss over on Twitter. That is the long and the short of it.
eShirl
(18,491 posts)Jonathan Capehart ?@CapehartJ 3m3 minutes ago
Where the word of a proud photographer conflicts with the pride of an ex-wife and friends.
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Jonathan Capehart ?@CapehartJ 25m25 minutes ago
Where the doubt of a campaign strategist slams up against a university archive.
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Jonathan Capehart ?@CapehartJ 29m29 minutes ago
This is a story where memory and historical certitude clash.
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Jonathan Capehart ?@CapehartJ 1h1 hour ago
........writing......
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Ino
(3,366 posts)He calls this writing? proud photographer? pride of an ex-wife? WTF?
It seems he's not going to say he was wrong. It's a difference of opinion. No one can trust their own damn eyes.
I can't get over the look of absolute GLEE on his face when he "broke" this story on Hardball.
eShirl
(18,491 posts)meh
polly7
(20,582 posts)tweets of which 90% seem completely against what he did.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Response to Electric Monk (Original post)
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Petrushka
(3,709 posts)tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)Where the youthful Civil-Rights activism of Bernie Sanders and Bruce Rappaport collide.
Jonathan Capehart
Where the word of a proud photographer conflicts with the pride of an ex-wife and friends.
Jonathan Capehart
Where the doubt of a campaign strategist slams up against a university archive.
Jonathan Capehart