It appears quite clear that many Hillary fans support the swiftboating of Bernie

[cali]

Last edited Fri Feb 12, 2016, 01:29 PM - Edit history (1)

by powerful members of the MSM who have obvious connections to Hillary. About Chris Matthews, nothing more needs to be added. But who knew that Capehart's partner was Deputy Chief of Protocol at State under Hillary and currently works for her campaign? Amazing what a little digging turns up.

Five years ago, while Nick Schmit, the deputy chief of protocol at the US State Department, was traveling in Japan for work, he got a message from a friend suggesting he meet Pulitzer Prize–winning reporter and MSNBC contributor Jonathan Capehart. They were both single at the time, and the friend thought they would have a lot in common. She was right! As Schmit and Capehart prepare to celebrate their fifth anniversary in November, this lively duo agreed to let Capitol File take a peek into their home to learn more about their happy, busy lives.

>snip>

http://capitolfile-magazine.com/inside-jonathan-capehart-and-nick-schmits-house
http://www.yatedo.com/p/Nick+Schmit/normal/a11ff4c0b6814ab541ce85fa871b878b

[Motown_Johnny]

1. Of course they do. Honest arguments are not what they do.

They will say anything to get Hillary elected.

Their venerating Kissinger should make that very clear.

[erlewyne]

63. WHOA HO HO!!!

Back down ....

Cali and Motown ... they took the bait ... watch your backsides !!!

Something hit too close to home.

Stick to unity like Bernie. We (I am) are old democrats.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

80. Are you saying all Hillary supporters are dishonest?

[Motown_Johnny]

101. The OP states "Many" and I was agreeing with that assessment. Not "all" n/t

[mhatrw]

99. The depths of this little episode of ratfuckery are truly unfathomable.

Sally Cook, the retired government lawyer University of Chicago alumni who contacted the University of Chicago archives to get the caption of the photo changed, conceded to Time magazine reporter Sam Frizell that she could not "say for certain the man is not Sanders."

So what made it so important to her that she felt she needed to change the caption in order to identify the individual at a 40+-year-old sit in as some long dead acquaintance rather than as Bernie Sanders?

Who then told Sam Frizell, Time magazine's Clinton pool reporter, about this trifling photo flap? What induced Sam Frizell to devote 1000+ words to this complete non-story without making any attempt to contact the original photographer?

What then induced the WaPo's Jonathan Capehart, the live in partner of a rich longtime Clinton campaign staffer, to pick up this complete non-story and spin it into a direct attack of Sanders' integrity without making any attempt to contact the original photographer?

Why did corporate cable news then trot out Capehart on 10 different shows to promulgate this complete non-story?

[itsrobert]

2. Hmm. Could say the same of Bernie supporter

Who use right wing smears to swiftboat her. Dont you think?

[EdwardBernays]

3. haven't seen much of that

I think a lot of Hillary supporters just assume everything bad anyone says about Hillary is a right-wing smear.

[dbackjon]

73. LOL - you don't comprehend many of the threads on here then.

Many read like they could have been written by the RNC.



Of course, many probably were

[EdwardBernays]

81. Again

Just because the RNC AND many many Democrats see the same corruption doesn't mean that all criticism of Hillary is a right wing smear.

You don't hear Bernie folks talking about Vince Foster or (largely) Benghazi.

But criticising her corruption is a bipartisan issue.

[dbackjon]

86. The fact that you are saying she is corrupt is a right-wing smear

[EdwardBernays]

90. No

And the fact you cant see the ample evidence of her corruption is symptomatic of your delusional obsession...

Hillary's campaign chairman owns one of the biggest lobbying firms in DC. They represent big banks, big pharma, weapons manufacturers and Saudi Arabia.

She repeatedly approved weapons deals with authoritarian regimes at State, including ones the State Department said were killing their own people.

Saudi Arabia wanted a deal with Boeing.. State was against it, regional allies were against it. Saudi Arabia donated a minimum of 10m to the Clinton Foundation and Boeing gave 250,000 for a single speech to Bill.

Clinton approved the deal. And when she did her spokesman said it was a personal priority of hers.

No shit.

In fact twice as many companies and countries that donated to the Clinton Foundation got approval from Clinton at State as those that didn't.

If this was Bush or Cheney the left would have endless petitions to investigate. It would be in every anti-Bush ad the left was running.

But because it's Hillary all of her supporters just say it's a "smear" .

And that's just one small example. There's a LOT more.

Hillary supporters just won't accept it because of their delusional beliefs... Or they - like I've seen a few times on DU - ACCEPT IT, but just ignore it, because they assume all politicians are corrupt.

Which is just suicidal.

[Utopian Leftist]

92. Aha!

If this was Bush or Cheney the left would have endless petitions to investigate. It would be in every anti-Bush ad the left was running.

But because it's Hillary all of her supporters just say it's a "smear" .

After reading your post I finally resolved the age-old mystery of why the Clintons so embrace their own scandal machine, which whips out endless crimes and misdemeanors. Now I finally get it! They constantly embrace scandal because that way when they get caught breaking the law, their well-trained supporters are so used to it that they automatically adjust into "defend-mode," without thinking.

Seriously, self-examination or self-awareness do not appear possible for them. They don't live in the real world with us mere mortals.

[EdwardBernays]

93. Cynicism vs optimism

That's what this Dem race has come down to.

It's like a battle of personality types almost.

I'd definitely say that the left has a LONG history of raising money and organizing around fear. Fear of attacks, fear of failure against the right.

Fear fear fear. Hillary and Bill have using that technique for decades and you see it again this time out.

Obamacare will be destroyed.

America will be destroyed by terrorists.

Women will become second class citizens.

Fear fear fear.

Powerful stuff.

[cali]

4. Who on the supposedly liberal side of the MSM has done that? Names please

[Wilms]

9. "right wing smears to swiftboat her"

That's sounds pretty terrible. And you did mention "supporters". Can you show specific examples? And how they would compare against what the OP is about?

[bettyellen]

52. saw "Vince Foster" thrown into a post yesterday for no reason, and someone suggested it as an OP.

Because vicious ancient RW gossip belongs here.

[dbackjon]

71. BINGO!

[Hassin Bin Sober]

5. Isn't that special.

So their family finances actually depend on HRC winning the election.

I'm sure he discloses this in all his writings.

[peacebird]

79. Exactly

[bigtree]

6. so you think it's fair to smear this black journalist

...who makes no secret of his associations.

Or, smearing DUers with this broad swipe?

[jillan]

10. Why are you bringing race into this? A liar is a liar no matter what the color of their skin.

[cali]

12. Facts are not a smear. And trying to insinuate that I'm a racist?

That is contemptible. And yes, by dragging his race into this and accusing me of smearing him, that is precisely what you did. And I was not just talking about DUers.

[bigtree]

20. I think this post is contemptible

...all in defense of this politician you're supporting.

You don't give a damn who you're smearing here with loose facts, personalization, and innuendo, so it's pathetic and laughable that you think you should be immune from the same.

Also, you equate my mentioning his race - essentially defending this prominent black journalist by identifying him as such - with calling you racist. Mentioning a person's race isn't an attack on anyone. That's a figment of your defensive mind.

[cali]

22. No, that would be you, my dear friend

Bye bye. Get back to doing... what you do.

[Fawke Em]

30. Loose facts?

She posted the links that PROVE Capehart's husband works for Hillary.

He shouldn't be covering this race at all, if he were an honest reporter.

Loose?

[bigtree]

33. he's never made a secret of that, or of his affinity for Clinton

...acting like it's a conspiracy that an opinion journalist covering election politics is openly favoring a candidate is inane.

[TeamPooka]

38. I've never heard him disclose any of this info and I see him on MSNBC all the time.

I had no idea who his partner was until I read this thread.

[klook]

74. Correct.

Never once have I seen Capeheart disclose his family ties to the Clinton campaign. And I've seen him as a panelist and host on many MSNBC programs.

This certainly calls his ethics into serious question.

[bettyellen]

58. welcome to DU, where racism that is imagined or "inferred" is more concerning than the real thing.

Fuck that idea.

[SidDithers]

18. +1...nt

Sid

[m-lekktor]

23. what a pathetic loser act of desperation, bringing up race to "imply" something

when it has nothing to do with anything in this context.

[bigtree]

26. I'm not responsible for your uncomfortableness in my recognizing that this is a black journalist

...one that, I would add, is no stranger to ad hominem attacks on his character.

[farleftlib]

59. a compromised journalist with a vested interest in seeing Hillary elected

smears Bernie and you attempt to make him the victim in all this?

[bigtree]

61. he's an opinion columnist

...entitled to his opinion.

[farleftlib]

66. a lie is a lie, it's not an opinion. n/t

[mhatrw]

100. The depths of this little episode of ratfuckery are truly unfathomable.

Sally Cook, the retired government lawyer University of Chicago alumni who contacted the University of Chicago archives to get the caption of the photo changed, conceded to Time magazine reporter Sam Frizell that she could not "say for certain the man is not Sanders."

So what made it so important to her that she felt she needed to change the caption in order to identify the individual at a 40+-year-old sit in as some long dead acquaintance rather than as Bernie Sanders?

Who then told Sam Frizell, Time magazine's Clinton pool reporter, about this trifling photo flap? What induced Sam Frizell to devote 1000 words to this complete non-story without making any attempt to contact the original photographer?

What then induced the WaPo's Jonathan Capehart, the live in partner of a rich Clinton campaign staffer, to pick up this complete non-story and spin it into a direct attack of Sanders' integrity without making any attempt to contact the original photographer?

Why did corporate cable news then trot out Capehart on 10 different shows to promulgate this complete non-story?

[bigtree]

120. his own classmates questioned the photo

...get over it.

[bigwillq]

7. Aww. Poor Bernie.

Aww. Poor Hillary.

How dare anyone criticize them.

[Maedhros]

27. Was this your reaction when John Kerry was slandered? [n/t]

[bigwillq]

95. Yes

John Kerry is a big boy, he could handle the criticism, as should all candidates. Politics is a dirty business, fair or not.

[Maedhros]

97. Well I think the outrage is not about the candidates' personal feelings,

but rather the dishonest and despicable lies being used to mislead the electorate.

[bigwillq]

98. That likely will always happen in politics

both sides are guilty of it.

[Maedhros]

107. Bullshit. Bernie's campaign has not done anything nearly as repulsive as suggesting

Bernie lied about his activism.

[bigwillq]

108. Keep Calm and Don't Bern Out

Both sides, meaning Ds and Rs, play hardball.

[bvar22]

110. That is a false equivalency,

and you and everybody reading this thread KNOWS it.

[jfern]

116. He lost because of the switfboating

[bigwillq]

117. He lost because he wasn't a great candidate

and more folks decided to stick with the incumbent during a time of war.

[jfern]

118. He got swiftboated and figured he didn't have to respond to such obvious garbage

He was wrong

[bigwillq]

119. He also proved he wasn't a fighter

O-HI-O.

[ucrdem]

11. So Clinton Cash, Benghazi, email servers and the rest of the RW noise is A-okay

but ever so politely call into question one dubious claim and out comes the victim card.

[cali]

14. Who on the supposedly liberal side of the MSM has done that?

[ucrdem]

15. I clicked your first link and I'm frankly surprised that you would stoop this low. Done here. nt

[cali]

19. My first link is simply to a an article about his digs

How fucking absurd to call that low.

[Fawke Em]

31. And the couple obviously consented to the story.

They're even happily pictured in the article.

Unless someone went in an changed the photo tagline years later.

[TwilightGardener]

17. Benghazi is arguably a black mark because it did happen on her watch, involving an ambassador--

but I don't hold her primarily responsible for the attack or the security situation unless something new comes to light. The email server--that's real, Hillary Clinton created it, and it's a problem--and has a law enforcement investigation. Clinton Cash--? When something comes along that I see is inherently, factually dishonest regarding the Clintons, I'll call bullshit.

[Armstead]

25. I saw the original show when Capehart brought this up

It was Tweety's "Tell me something new" and -- with all else going on in the world -- Caprheart eagerly and breathlessly revealed this "scandal" about the photograph like it was some big new scandal.

Coincidentally on the same day Lewis called into question whether Bernie was involved in the civil rights movement or not.

His "revelation" is especially suspect because the damn photograph had already been one of those brief little public campaign "controversies" publicly three months ago.

Strange timing.

[thereismore]

13. Any old port in a storm. They are losing. nt

[restorefreedom]

112. man would i love to see their internals....

must be worse than anyone could have thought

[LexVegas]

16. I think Bernie and his bros should expose John Lewis for what they think he is to SC voters. nt

[cali]

21. I agree! I think John Lewis is a towering figure in the Civil Rights Movement

and an American Hero.

Fucking thrilled to disappoint you.

Oh, and that has nothing to do with the op.

Thanks for confirmation though.

[SwampG8r]

96. Like what?

Hes an american hero we in Bernies camp.respect his hard work for america.

[Kingofalldems]

24. Amazing how you can go after fellow DUers so often.

[cali]

29. I'm going after *some* Hillary supporters in general, not specifically DUers

[Kingofalldems]

35. Your headline says many.

And DU has many Hillary supporters.

[cali]

36. Not very many and I'm thinking of other hill sites.

[CoffeeCat]

28. Swiftboatting is only successful if the echo-chamber flacks are willing to do the heavy lifting

Remember, in the John Kerry Swiftboatting, Rove could only carry the lies so far. It was the minions in the cheap seats who had to show up at the Republican convention with purple band-aids on their faces and repeat the talking points to make it all stick.

I'm still aghast that this happened in our own party. I mean, who knew my fellow Democrats could sink so low.

The thing is--People who support this shit, will support it and everything her campaign does. Sanders supporters will remain unmoved.

It's the people in the middle and the persuadables who are key.

These people can be moved. They can change their vote; or they're still undecided.

And how do you think a Swiftboatting attack from the Clinton camp (complete with lying witnesses who swore to God that wasn't Bernie in the picture!) will bode with those people? Hold outs and Independents are on the outskirts for a reason. They are sick of politics as usual and more skeptical than most. They are not the party faithful.

They will so reject this tactic, in spades.

Just sit tight, because a tidal wave of this demographic is about to fall into the arms of Sanders. Partially, because of Sanders himself, and partially because the Swiftboatting attempt will be such a turn off.

This is a win for Sanders, for sure. The truth is out--the photographer said that it was Sanders in the picture.

The damage they tried to inflict on Sanders will be boomeranging back onto their own campaign.

[NCTraveler]

32. His education plan swiftboats itself.

His voting multiple times against even having an up or down vote on a pathway to citizenship swiftboats itself.

His support for the MIC while pandering as a dove swiftboats itself.

His support of deregulation while claiming he was tricked swiftboats itself.

The list goes on.

[kath]

46. "swiftboats itself"?!? What the fuck. Do you have any clue what the term "Swiftboating" means

and refers to?

You are displaying vast ignorance here. A little reading and research would be in order,

[SunSeeker]

48. Great post. nt

[cali]

34. I am so fucking right kick

[WillyT]

37. K & R !!!

[dsc]

39. really a lecture from you about this

what's next the Limbaugh temporance pitch, or maybe the Cruz speech about how not to be a scuzzball. It is simply amazing that you would have the utter nerve to post this given the crap you bring here about Hillary.

[cali]

42. Lol. Pitiful coming from you.

[dbackjon]

75. Bingo - this poster is rather good at throwing shit at Hillary and her supporters

Hell, I haven't decided who to vote for in the primaries, but Bernistas on here are making me hate him.

[cantbeserious]

40. Us We Together - Vs - Me MyBank And I -- The 1% Will Not Be Denied

eom

[PatrynXX]

41. anyone still left fighting for Hillary likely thinks more like the worst of the Conservatives do

I know some good ones. They'd never swift board anyone and it's those particulars that would never work with Hillary. But a certain probably Rich section of Conservatives would

[dbackjon]

76. So anyone that supports Hillary is a bad conservative?

Please clarify the intent of your post

[Khellendross]

43. Personally I think Hillary is someone who changes her mind every time the political winds blow...

https://www.facebook.com/sfraine/videos/1098295776868843/

[Ligyron]

85. That comment is worth a heart! nt

[AzDar]

44. Dirty. Just like the Clintons.

[LisaM]

45. This is the stupidest argument ever.

A picture that occurred at an event similar to many that Bernie Sanders went to in his college days may or may not be Bernie Sanders. It looks like him. It may be him, it may not be him. The strange this is that no one seems to be asking Bernie Sanders directly, but either way, this is tantamount to the stupid brouhaha when Al Gore hummed a union ditty and everyone jumped on him because it wasn't the same one his mother may or may not have sung to him when he was a child. So what? Everyone knows Bernie Sanders did stuff like this in college.

[cali]

49. What is stupid and disgraceful is Hillarians doubling down on

this when the celebrated photographer who took the pics says they are absolutely Bernie.

Who to believe? Mr. Lyon or the Hillary gang? Gee, that's easy.

[LisaM]

54. Maybe I'm missing something. Has Hillary held up this picture and said it wasn't him?

I don't even know what triggered this discussion, but it's pretty pointless unless someone is violating right-of-publicity or copyright laws and making money off the picture. What started this?

[dreamnightwind]

115. Her surrogates have been plastering this smear all over the MSM

trying to reduce his authenticity numbers. Surprised you haven't seen it, I've seen it done in roughly 10 different news broadcasts. It would be silly, but it's actually a major offensive by the Clinton campaign, her trustworthiness numbers suck and she can't raise them, so she's attempting to bring Bernie's down.

[Andy823]

47. Has Bernie come out and said the picture is of him?

The first time I saw the picture, he was asked if that was him, all he said was "it looks like me". Has he said absolutely that picture is me?

[cali]

50. Yes

[womanofthehills]

82. The photographer Danny Lyons said he took the photo of Bernie

http://www.phaidon.com/agenda/photography/articles/2016/february/02/when-danny-lyon-met-bernie-sanders/

by the way - Danny Lyons is a great and famous photographer!!

[bowens43]

51. they support what they are told to support.

[valerief]

53. That's what establishmenters do. nt

[arcane1]

55. Whatever It Takes(tm). Honesty is a luxury when your candidate stands for nothing but themselves n/t

[riversedge]

56. It is post time that Sanders is vetted by the MSM.

[cali]

60. So you think this is vetting? Oh you Hillarians are such kidders.

Or are you trying to provide right?

[AllyCat]

57. All this nonsense about a photo is somehow more important than the issues.

And the photo nonsense appears to be a fake argument.

[LisaM]

62. I know. No one will even say how it started.

Apparently Hillary carries this picture with her everywhere and insists that it's not Bernie Sanders.

[questionseverything]

114. capehart and matthews made a big deal last night after the debates

saying bernie was dishonest because he isn't the guy in the picture

so now we have photogate after buttongate and whatevergate

the photographer that took the pic says it is bernie and provided more unpublished photos from same day

and yet the msm will not retract

for me ,i am just tired of the lies and the smears and when it is two prominent journalists whose spouses are both indebted to hc doing the smearing

it just gets old

when we should be talking about how hc will continue the failed war on drugs ,even mj which has cost time and energy and devastated families

[LisaM]

64. I'm actually amazed that a post accusing someone of "swiftboating" wasn't removed immediately.

The swiftboat attacks on Kerry were absolutely nauseating, a proven action by a bunch of nasty people to try to discredit the actions taken by a war hero who was running against someone who barely served, if he did at all. To use that term over a photo that may or may not be someone who is known to have attended similar events is absurd, not to mention deeply insulting to John Kerry.

[cali]

69. It's hardly a surprise that Hillary's campaign is swiftboating

That's what David Brock does.

[sadoldgirl]

65. It was clear from the beginning of Bernie's

candidacy that the media as well as the super pacs,
the MIC, the CIA, etc would go after him.

That the HRC supporters welcome this had/has to
be expected.

Let's face it: Bernie knew from the beginning what
resistance he would face; yet he was/is courageous
and strong enough to fight these odds.

And so are most of his supporters, I hope.

[LisaM]

68. Now the CIA is involved in this scrap over a picture?

Fascinating.

[sadoldgirl]

83. I did not say that at all.

What I tried to get across is that Bernie knew
that he would be fought by the establishment,
and MIC as well as CIA belong right into that.

[LisaM]

87. I don't know what you're talking about

How does any of that relate to a squabble over who someone might or might not be in a picture?

[Duval]

67. K&R! nt

[dbackjon]

70. As opposed to the embracing of Right-wing LIES about Hillary by Bernie-fans?

[NorthCarolina]

72. I'm pretty sure they're probably at the

"whatever it takes" stage about now.

[bravenak]

77. Its not swiftboating

[stonecutter357]

84. what does cali over at DU,

think of BernieBro's.

[cali]

89. Huh?

[SwampG8r]

94. Bernie bros cali....

Its what hillarians are calling the 2008 obama boys this time around
Old.meme new title from the cantidate

[lasttrip]

88. need that cash to feed them jones.

Thanks for the post cali.
Peace.
LT

[Amimnoch]

91. Good lord. And you say Hillary flip flops on things?

Just 2 days ago you were all LOVING the MSM, and couldn't quote the articles fast enough on the New Hampshire win, and all the articles about Bernie's campaign gaining strength. (congratulations again, that was an impressive victory)

Perhaps there's a distinct reason why those who KNOW Clinton think she's the best choice?

And those who've worked with Sanders for the past 30 years, in OVERWHELMING majorities, likewise choose Clinton?

You know, the 39 Senators endorsing Clinton. Sanders with his 1 Senator. How about that 158 Representatives endorsing Clinton to Sanders 2? And these are the people he's worked with for all this time? These are also the people that he's supposedly going to get everything on his Presidential "to do" list done with?

On the Article itself, Capehart says he got the quote from Tad Devine. If Tad told him what he says Tad told him, then there is NOTHING for them to retract. Tad is a Sanders Campaign strategist. Has Tad put out any kind of statement from the campaign denying that the quote was real? If it does turn out that Capehart lied about the quote, that will come out, and will be a huge black mark on his career in Journalism.

From the published article this is what Capehart says Tad said:

When I originally used this photo back in May/June is was because the U of Chicago had identified the guy standing as Bernie. It certainly looked like him, and Bernie remembers being there as part of the protests. Then Time Magazine months later raised a question about whether that was him standing. To be honest we are not 100% sure if it is or not. As to why we would leave it in the video, I think it is an accurate representative scene of something that he was part of at the time, so I did not think I needed to redo the video we made months ago. There is no dispute he was there and part of these protests, just like there is no dispute that he was at the March on Washington, where we again used representative visual images.

So far, as near as I can find on searches, his twitter, or on his facebook page at:
https://www.facebook.com/tad.devine

There is no retraction, or denial from him on what he told Capehart.

[orpupilofnature57]

105. Read my posts for the last ten years, MSM = Misanthropic Sycophant Monsters, An on running

commercial for the 1% ,and fake beating up on Hillary isn't fooling intelligent people anymore .

[Amimnoch]

109. LOL, alright.

[Uncle Joe]

102. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, cali.

[orpupilofnature57]

103. It All comes clear now !!!! Connections and Strings won't save our country, same old, same old

[senz]

104. Capehart surprised me last night but it's good to have a logical explanation...

I was actually wondering if he might have a thing for David Brock. Nick Schmit has got to be a nicer guy than David.

[NowSam]

106. Anything to win!

Winning is everything. Then the sellout continues. Principles! Get yer principles. Big sale on principles! Everything must go. Values. We got values. Values and Principles on sale. Big sale. Huge.

[libtodeath]

111. Crystal clear and sickening.

[Beacool]

113. No more than Hillary has been swiftboated using RW talking points.

I personally don't care whether the, by now infamous, photo is of Sanders or not. It's irrelevant to this election. All this brouhaha because John Lewis said that he had never met Sanders?