2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders Civil Rights Photographer was Danny Lyons - more Bernie pics
Looks like John Lewis can't ignore Danny. This is what he said about him:
This young white New Yorker came South with a camera and a keen eye for history. And he used these simple, elegant gifts to capture the story of one of the most inspiring periods in Americas twentieth century. John Lewis, US congressman
From a blurb on Danny's book:
Memories of the Southern Civil Rights Movement
by DANNY LYON
https://twinpalms.com/books-artists/memories-of-the-southern-civil-rights-movement/
In the summer of 1962, Danny Lyon packed a Nikon Reflex and an old Leica in an army bag and hitchhiked south. Within a week he was in jail in Albany, Georgia, looking through the bars at another prisoner, Martin Luther King Jr. Lyon soon became the first staff photographer for the Atlanta-based Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC), which already had a reputation as one of the most committed and confrontational groups fighting for civil rights.
This is Dann'y blog and on the blog he has two entries:
BERNIE SANDERS LEADS 1963 SIT-IN
Posted on January 30, 2016
https://dektol.wordpress.com/2016/01/30/bernie-sanders-leads-1963-sit-in/
where he identifies the two photographs he took of Berrnie that have been widely published
And a second blog that he did yesterday:
MORE BERNIE CIVIL RIGHTS PHOTOS FOUND!
Posted on February 11, 2016
https://dektol.wordpress.com/2016/02/11/more-bernie-civil-rights-photos-found/
The slander that Bernie was not a very early leader for African American civil rights got so outrageous that persons went into the archives of the University of Chicago and changed captions on Danny Lyons 1962 photos, claiming it was Bruce Rappaport standing in Bernies clothing leading the demonstration in the Ad Building. These newly discovered pictures, including close up photographs of the student activists show us exactly what Bernie was and what he remains.
He posts more photos of the sit-in and then says:
Here at the University of Chicago, in the winter of 1962, students led by Bernie Sanders and others have occupied the hallway of the Administration Building, spending the night inside. The Chancellor cannot get into or leave his office. Bernie is leading a protest against the discrimination practiced by the University of Chicago against African Americans in its extensive housing. This protest for equal rights for African Americans is the first sit-in to be held in the north as part of the great 1960s civil rights movement. Bernie is the real deal. And voters, all voters know it. Feel the Bern.
I think Danny makes a pretty solid case given who he was: a civil rights photographer and John Lewis of all people attests to his work.
John Lewis would know Danny because:
Lyon soon became the first staff photographer for the Atlanta-based Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC)
and John Lewis headed up the SNCC from 1963 to 1966.
SamKnause
(13,849 posts)Thank you so very much for posting this.
I just posted a piece, but yours is much more detailed.
Thank you !!!!
I am sick of the lies.
I am sick of the attacks on this great and humble man.
FEEL THE BERN
Senator Tankerbell
(316 posts)I would like to send him this.
klook
(12,902 posts)The web site Brock founded, Media Matters, is supposed to expose conservative lies. Maybe Media Matters will perform its watchdog function and expose the lies perpetrated by Brock's other enterprise, "Correct" the Record.
Cheviteau
(383 posts)David Brock proved himself to be a liar years ago. Some on this site may believe he's redeemed himself. I'm not among them.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)Sally Cook, the retired government lawyer University of Chicago alumni who contacted the University of Chicago archives to get the caption of the photo changed, conceded to Time magazine reporter Sam Frizell that she could not "say for certain the man is not Sanders."
So what made it so important to her that she felt she needed to change the caption in order to identify the individual at a 40+-year-old sit in as some long dead acquaintance rather than as Bernie Sanders?
Who then told Sam Frizell, Time magazine's Clinton pool reporter, about this trifling photo flap? What induced Sam Frizell to devote 1000 words to this complete non-story without making any attempt to contact the original photographer?
What then induced the WaPo's Jonathan Capehart, the live in partner of a rich Clinton campaign staffer, to pick up this complete non-story and spin it into a direct attack of Sanders' integrity without making any attempt to contact the original photographer?
Why did corporate cable news then trot out Capehart on 10 different shows to promulgate this complete non-story?
Unknown Beatle
(2,688 posts)Hillary represents the status quo and Bernie represents a political revolution. The lies and the smears against Sanders are just starting.
The monied elite, which Hillary considers herself to be a part of that tiny group, want to continue fleecing the 99%. Their gravy train will slow down if Bernie is elected president and they don't want anything to disrupt their runaway money train.
Fuck them!
Feel The Bern!
Rilesome
(33 posts)Unknown Beatle
(2,688 posts)Welcome to DU.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,168 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)He accomplished his goal. His actions have a certain Rovian flare.
Raster
(20,999 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)WiffenPoof
(2,404 posts)Where did you get all the hearts???
cali
(114,904 posts)And feel the Bern sure sounds like an endorsement.
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)That was low. And unnecessary.
Hillary was no surprise. Anybody who would lie this much as the nominee, would have zero problem lying us into another war if needbe. That's obvious.
cali
(114,904 posts)Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)your posts always seem to give me an opening for my thoughts.
What is that saying about every bad thing has something good?
Without John Lewis' badmouthing Bernie, I would not have gotten
some great "old" pictures of Bernie.
Those were great years for me because I was in high school
and did not realize how sleazy our great country was becoming.
I supported Goldwater back then because he was an underdog.
earthside
(6,960 posts)But there is no doubt in my mind that the pressure from the Clintons to say and do anything to backup Hillary is enormous right now.
They have a reputation going back to Arkansas of being bullies and fierce threateners.
As long as the 'inevitability' argument for Hillary stays viable, there are going to be a lot of establishment Democratic officeholders who will succumb to the threats and say whatever they think will keep them in the Clintons' favor.
That's why knocking down the inevitability concept is so important.
I'm trying to remember a saying about the Clintons from 1992 (I'm not finding it by Googling yet) about how Clinton campaign wouldn't just respond to an attack with a counter punch, but would chop off the hand ... something like that.
arikara
(5,562 posts)the saying that is. I've heard similar about their scorched earth campaigns.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)zentrum
(9,866 posts)
.that along with endorsing HRC he dissed Bernie. Was that really necessary? Bernie is a progressivewhat was the point?
Fine for him to back herespecially if in his calculations she'll be the winner and he doesn't want her as an enemyI know how DC works and have heard of HRC's vindictiveness but, did he also have to cast doubt on the integrity of Bernie's life story?
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)John Lewis may not have known the whole plan, but he was given a script to read and did as he was told.
JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)"Die a hero, or live long enough to become a villain"
I agree John Lewis will always be a hero. I can forgive the sleight, but it will always call his words into question now.
frylock
(34,825 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)those years.
It was Brock and the Hillary campaign that gave it the spin that because John Lewis did not know him then that meant that Bernie was not in the movement.
For God's sake he did not know me either. A lot of us did not know each other.
Cheviteau
(383 posts)Go back a read the history of his first campaign for his congressional seat.
klook
(12,902 posts)I am sorry that he's supporting the Clinton campaign this time around, and I'm sorry that he chose to cast doubt on Sanders's political history. This one moment does not destroy Lewis's long record of exemplary public service.
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)If he were a witness in a court case, for instance, I wouldn't believe him now.
He made a bad choice, and he should have known that it wasn't worth it. So good judgement's out the window too.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)It seems to happen too often...a great history, doing great work...and then they get soiled over something like this.
And all in the name of trying to get her elected.
Too bad.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)lostnfound
(16,686 posts)It is not helpful. We have no idea what kind of pressure he is under, and what kind of memory he has. Be kind, and assume the best in people.
It's important to bring out the truth, and it's terrible that anyone would want to try to rob Bernie of a proud brave legacy.. But the man who was Bernie then, and the man who is Bernie still today, would never want to be part of tearing down a man like John Lewis.
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)There was NO NEED to say what he did about Sanders. None, whatsoever. HE went there. He could have endorsed HRC without deliberately trying to damage another candidate over a point that he knew was false. He attempted to smear the hard-earned, long-standing reputation of an innocent fellow civil rights worker merely to put his candidate a little more ahead.
What about fairness? Is that just a word to toss around? Appparently so.
I'll bet neither Lewis, nor HRC, expected that photographer to come forward. And what if the photograher had NOT come forward? What then? Would this be ok for this smear gambit of theirs to stand just because Lewis is an icon? And if so, then how is that any different from the idea of "too big to jail", meaning some people are exempt from the standards the rest of us are held to and expect?
Well, it isn't ok with me. I expect my icons and heroes to exceed the common standards, not to fail miserably at them.
People who would do this sort of thing, I ask myself what else would they stoop to? what else have they already done that we don't know about? It's game over for Lewis' reputation in my book. That's entirely his doing, it's not mine for saying so.
I appreciate your politeness in asking, but I won't be checking my opinions at the door for ANY candidate. This wasn't a little "oops", a little slip as far as ethics are concerned, this was a disaster, a very telling one.
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tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)But one degree of separation - and a journalist covering the movement reporting on both Bernie and Rep Lewis...
Great post
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)Although I think it was an unnecessary dig. It was the disingenuous "but I met Hillary" ( implying that unlike Bernie, by Lewis' implication, Hillary was somehow in the civil rights movement) that was classic Clintonian word games at their worst.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)I've had that feeling of deep sadness and disappointment when some one I respect or love discounted my contribution or sincerity to something important to me. I wonder if Bernie feels wounded by these sorts of attacks on his work - attacks that try to discount what I believe is truly part of his soul. Does he take time to console himself over the pain it must cause or is that something that has to wait?
renate
(13,776 posts)It makes me sad too, especially the unnecessity of it. Why would Lewis say something like that about a candidate who is almost certainly more deeply-in-his-bones on his side than the other one? Not that Hillary isn't fully in support of civil rights--but justice has been Bernie's raison-d'etre for his entire life.
Jarqui
(10,496 posts)She went on to be a Goldwater girl
She went on from there to be president of the Young Republicans at college and intern for Republicans in Washington.
It was a while (if truly ever) before she caught and embraced civil rights.
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)Late 60s-she supported Eugene McCarthy in 68; she and Bill campaigned for McGovern and 72
She was assigned a Republican congressman for her internship she didn't pick him
She also resigned from the young Republicans by her senior year
When did Sanders become a Democrat was it after 72
Jarqui
(10,496 posts)But as mayor, congressman and senator, he's been an independent who caucused with the Democrats in Washington.
But these policies and positions he's talking about, he's had those since the 60s.
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)So does he still believe that there's no difference between Republicans and Democrats because he's on record as saying that or has his opinion changed over the years?
druidity33
(6,574 posts)dlwickham
(3,316 posts)Just wondering if he had changed his opinion after all these years
Jarqui
(10,496 posts)if we try to be objective about it.
In terms of other areas, he's slammed the Republicans on climate change for example and not the Dems to the same degree. He's complimented Obama on far more things than he's been critical of. Haven't seen many compliments for Republicans. He's touted Hillary as a hundred times better than any Republican candidate.
I'd say he sees plenty of differences.
A number of years ago, maybe after they signed the welfare bill, maybe not so many differences back then and he spoke emotionally to claim no difference as a figure of speech rather than literally. Maybe it was at the municipal level when both parties ganged up on him. I haven't seen the context so I'm not sure.
Carolina
(6,960 posts)than she is... with her DLC, repuke-lite history. He's FDR, she's Nixon... deceit and dirty tricks, anything to win
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)Though he did, deliberately, insinuate Bernie wasn't who he says he is. That was uncalled for and unnecessary. He could have just endorsed HRH and left it at that, but he didn't do that. He made the decision to get down in the David Brock muck. He was wrong.
I still admire him and always will. It's just unfortunate he's supporting someone like Clinton and flung her shit for her.
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)SixString
(1,057 posts)Senator Tankerbell
(316 posts)Even though he has now been proven wrong.
https://twitter.com/CapehartJ
We need to let his editor know about this and ask if there will be a retraction:
https://twitter.com/hiattf
dragonfly301
(399 posts)who doesn't care if the washpo is inaccurate as long as Hillary wins. I have been a subscriber for 31 years, today I canceled my subscription. Enough.
Senator Tankerbell
(316 posts)Merryland
(1,134 posts)has become nothing but a right-wing shilling operation since it's pro-Iraq War days. Ugh.
appalachiablue
(42,982 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)intheflow
(28,998 posts)This librarian wants to know!
thereismore
(13,326 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Since the "bernie lied about being an activist" lie failed, the hillarians will probably go back to red-baiting.
panader0
(25,816 posts)I still have my copy.
intheflow
(28,998 posts)I'll have to check it out!
starroute
(12,977 posts)I saved, cropped, rotated, sharpened -- and did a Google reverse image search on the result. Came up with this.
intheflow
(28,998 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)different clothes, different hair, no pudgy cheeks
intheflow
(28,998 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)Naahh..
jwirr
(39,215 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)Bernie:
Not the Bernie:
Check the name of the 1st photo: "berniefr22-copy.jpg"
Check the name of the 2nd photo: "studentatsitin010.jpg"
Armstead
(47,803 posts)FourScore
(9,704 posts)but the photographer says on his blog that it is just another protester. I'm not sure why he posted it unless it was to show that numerous students had the same "look" with the hair and glasses.
Donkees
(32,423 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)jalan48
(14,479 posts)to kiss and make up? Really?
I used to vote for the lessor of two evils. Then I realized that guaranteed the choice available would always be between evils.
There are a lot of reasons I don't like Hillary, but lying about her opponent by herself and her surrogates, how anti-Democratic can one get. Dare I use the phrase anti-American? which has been misused so often, but what else would one call corrupting the electoral process.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)Only if you want to sound ridiculous.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Last edited Fri Feb 12, 2016, 01:36 PM - Edit history (1)
You should be ashamed - no sarcasm tag on that...
If anyone should be ashamed it's the people running around with their hair on fire attacking a Democratic candidate in such hyperbolic fashion that it's embarrassing to DU. I have zero respect for people who fully embrace right wing positions to attack Hillary.
That poster proved one point in his post correct however: Dare I use the phrase anti-American? which has been misused so often. And now it has again. Anyone trying to claim Hilary is anti-American is on the wrong fucking website.
demwing
(16,916 posts)It's Team Hillary that is spreading malicious lies and corrupting the democratic process.
Fucking own it, at least. Have the courage of your misguided convictions.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)And I'll say it again. Anyone trying to claim Hilary is anti-American is on the wrong fucking website.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Yours appears to includes lying to get elected. Mine does not.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,168 posts)JoeyT
(6,785 posts)Ask all those poor Cambodian kids Hillary's buddy carpet bombed about running around with their hair on fire.
Carolina
(6,960 posts)and I won't vote for her in the general
Rilesome
(33 posts)myrna minx
(22,772 posts)I have no issues with Congressman Lewis' recollections of whether he ever met Sanders or not. It's very probable that he never did meet Sanders.
My problem is the Brock Machine is ready to pounce on any untrue smear to besmirch an honorable man's reputation and passionate work.
What Brock did to Anita Hill was disgusting, and while he claims to atone for such horrible tactics, it appears that he's still at it- he's just going after Sanders now.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Jarqui
(10,496 posts)wants voters to ignore
WillyT
(72,631 posts)thereismore
(13,326 posts)He did great work in the North.
Baitball Blogger
(48,258 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)zentrum
(9,866 posts)
.photo looks like Bernie and this photo settles it.
Wish the powers that oppose him weren't so slithery.
Jarqui
(10,496 posts)have him wearing a sweater/top and pants that look the same in the disputed photo.
The different shades are development or lighting
... a little more evidence ...
gregcrawford
(2,382 posts)I am disgusted beyond words that Hillary's campaign would stoop so low as to hire a former Republican operative. I am suspicious, too, of Brock's claims that he has seen the light and repented of his evil ways, such as his malicious Anita Hill takedown. Conservatives are liars by nature, otherwise they wouldn't BE conservatives. Given the venomous hatred of Hillary by the vast Right-wing Conspiracy and there can be NO doubt that there is one it is no big stretch to imagine that Brock might be a particularly devious Trojan Horse inserted into the Clinton campaign to take her down once and for all.
I'm a Bernie supporter through and through, but I'd still like to believe that Hillary might have a tattered remnant of decency left, and that she's been had by some truly vile people.
Just call me Pollyanna.
zentrum
(9,866 posts)
.at Brock.
But I doubt he's a trojan horse. I think his background proves to her he's just the kind of slimy do-anything operative she needs. His ideology is of no consequence to her. I think she'd take Rove as an advisor if he offered himself. She's machiavellian. Which is why I think she's a bad feminist as well. She stands for only one thingthe power and legacy of herself.
gregcrawford
(2,382 posts)... you're probably right. It's just that if all those things are true, then the Democratic Party has been hijacked in a most despicable way by people so rotten that they would aspire to ascend to the level of "despicable." And when you pull on that thread, it unravels a really ugly sweater to expose a virulent cancer at the very heart of our political system: Rapacious corporatism in all its malignant glory. But far worse than that is the fact that so many of the people we admired have eagerly guzzled that Kool Aid. And a horrifying number of our friends here on DU still think the Sun shines out of their nether portals. Bummer...
Did you happen to see that video post a couple of weeks ago featuring a Goldman Sachs trader being interviewed on British TV? That evil little bastard didn't even try to mask the malice that drives that organization, and they are far from alone in their quest for total world domination.
On that cheerful note, I bid you adieu and wish you a happy Valentine's Day.
Rilgin
(793 posts)Carolina
(6,960 posts)that back in the 1990s, she hired that toe sucker Dick Morris, too. Her conduct this time around is 2008 redux with more shock and awe (see my OP in this forum: Challenging history, authenticity and facts).
HRC's campaign is positively Nixonian. Maybe her emails and speech transcripts will sink her like the Nicon tapes did him.
zazen
(2,978 posts)An awful choice. I'm going to have a hard time voting for her if she wins the general. It sickens me.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)ucrdem
(15,720 posts)the student in the disputed pic who has been identified as Bruce Rappaport by the Washington Post and others. Yesterday:
By Jonathan Capehart February 11 at 5:38 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/02/11/stop-sending-around-this-photo-of-bernie-sanders/
So I'm not sure this new photo settles anything.
Beowulf
(761 posts)I can see the confusion, but when the guy who took the photo says it's Bernie, and that guy has impeccable bona fides as a photographer of the civil rights movement, I think I'll go with the guy who was there and took the photo over the hacks at the Washington Post and Time.
Amaril
(1,267 posts)....that is in the others. He is wearing white socks. Guy in the other 4 is wearing black socks (look at the top left photo -- the one that is turned sideways).
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mhatrw
(10,786 posts)Who "identified" him as Bruce Rappaport? How did they "identify him as Bruce Rappaport" when the photographer himself says he is Bernie Sanders?
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)They are worried they'll have to pay more in taxes.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Respect 88
(67 posts)The grandstanding of the establishment against Bernie's life long activism was an outrage! What a breath of fresh air to see this post of pics. BTW - Bernie was arrested during this sit-in.
Jarqui
(10,496 posts)This sit in was about segregation and discrimination in student living quarters that prohibited blacks living with whites (something like that)
I think it helped lead to the dean asking him to take time off school
Sanders was arrested while demonstrating for desegregated public schools in Chicago in 1962. (a different cause and protest related to civil rights)
Respect 88
(67 posts)Jarqui, Thank you for having the proof of this!
demwing
(16,916 posts)Why is there any controversy over this?
How can anyone spread such an easily refutable, malicious lie, and in the face of that shame, still expect the vote of any honorable Democrat?
Jarqui
(10,496 posts)In this case, it got him arrested. In another case, it had the cops tailing him and taking his flyers on police brutality down right after he was putting them up. It had the dean of his school asking him to take a year off.
If you attended one of these demonstrations, like the March on Washington in 1963 that Sanders did, you risked tear gas, night sticks, arrest or worse.
Aug. 28, 1963 Military police line up at the Washington Monument prior to the March on Washington. Fearing violence from the event, 30 Army helicopters patrolled the skies, swooping low over the Reflecting Pool. Four thousand troops stood ready in the Washington suburbs, and 15,000 paratroopers were placed on standby in North Carolina.
John Lewis was told he had to tone his March on Washington speech down because it was too militant. They feared he'd spark a riot.
Despite the event being organized to be a nonviolent protest, authorities had set up crowd control measures out of fear of a riot breaking out. Military police lined the National Mall and dozens of Army helicopters patrolled the skies over the march. Nearly 6,000 police officers were on duty, as well as 2,000 men from the National Guard. Four thousand soldiers stood at the ready in the D.C. suburbs alone, and 15,000 paratroopers were on standby. The march took place without major incident, however.
Partly due to mistrust and partly due to risk in business or socially, there were not a lot of whites really standing up for blacks in 1962-3. The movement was growing but not there yet. So supporting them got you labeled things like "nigger-lover". About 1/4 of the people in the March on Washington were white. But I bet the vast majority didn't go to work the next day bragging about being at the demonstration. There were still a lot of prejudice people having trouble accepting it.
Actions have consequences. If you protest darn near anything, you're taking some sort of risk - particularly in the early 60s. To suggest Bernie didn't take risks is inaccurate and unfair. John Lewis and MLK took much bigger risks. It got MLK killed and for example, John Lewis was beaten by mobs as a Freedom Rider and in a protest for voting rights at Selma, the cops attacked them and fractured Lewis's skull here:
So to maintain perspective, Bernie actions were not as risky as the ones John Lewis took but he did take some risks standing up for the same cause.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)I wonder if Bernie recalls him being there.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)This link it to the Museum of Contemporary Photography
John Lewis in Cairo
Accession Number:
2012:127
Artist:
Lyon, Danny
Date:
1963; printed 2010
Medium:
Gelatin silver print
http://www.mocp.org/detail.php?t=objects&type=browse&f=maker&s=Lyon%2C+Danny&record=81
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)She REALLY needs to muzzle these people.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)Great post!
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
ALBliberal
(2,875 posts)therefore doesn't talk about this as much as he could. But NOW he will be getting all sorts of publicity on his civil rights bona fides all before the SC primary.
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)mainer
(12,188 posts)I didn't really care about the photo dispute until now. It was so minor as to be irrelevant.
But this -- THIS -- is like a window into the soul of Hillary supporters. That they would dare change an archive means they have no interest in the truth.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)erlewyne
(1,115 posts)I often use Wikipedia (online) and am dismayed at
how prevalent misinformation is. It is kind of
like our votes via computer verses paper ballots,
it is all about a rigged system and people with
deep pockets.
LiberalArkie
(16,585 posts)establishment contacts. What does this mean? It means access to old phone conversations, emails etc of probably everyone in congress and most people in government.
We have to take what they say with a grain of salt. There might be an old picture out there from 50 years ago of John Lewis giving a woman an innocent peck on the cheek. We wonder why congress never changes, the data keepers never change.
INdemo
(7,020 posts)To him?
nyabingi
(1,145 posts)in a now-hidden post because it angered me that he is now too blind to see that he is being used by a cold, calculating, cutthroat Clinton campaign (alliteration intended lol) to whip potential Black voters in line behind her candidacy, that Hillary takes donations from many of the interests who are literally profiting off of the Black community's misery, that after having solidified himself as a hero he is now vouching for someone who was on the side of the enemy back then, etc.
Many of the civil rights leaders of yesterday are still trying to stay in the fight, but they need to realize that their time to lead should be ceded to the young who are more in touch with the pulse of their young peers. People like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson have had difficulty maintaining their "leader" status in the wake of the Black Lives Matter movement, but instead of trying to be the face of leadership of this younger groups and trying to diminish their activism, they should seek to join with them and lend their voices to the youth. John Lewis, through his vocal support of Hillary Clinton, has shown me that he's lost touch with the pulse not only of our youth, but with the ebb and flow of this country's political dynamic and mood.
I don't apologize for what I said about John Lewis because I truly feel he earned those words.
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)nt
And where are the pictures of Hillary?
awake
(3,226 posts)TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)quoddy woman
(38 posts)Has dragged his reputation through the same slime as Colin Powell. If you look at the young man's hands,there can be no question. He has the longest thumbs I ever saw.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Not only has Bernie been saying the same thing for years, he's been waving his hands around in the same way for years!
creatives4innovation
(98 posts)Duval
(4,280 posts)Thank you Jarqui!
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)monicaangela
(1,508 posts)the fact that some people would first believe that John Lewis would remember every member of SNCC number 1. And, that those same people would believe an article that takes the time to look back into history to try to deny a person who is in a photo, several photos to be exact, somehow isn't there or is trying to use the photo of someone else to prove he/she was a part of the Civil Rights movement in the 60's. Thank you for putting this matter to rest Jarqui, we who are supporters of Sanders are grateful for what you have done.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Someone needs to go to JAIL for that.
FourScore
(9,704 posts)They may even have a record of what was written there before, if anything. The university need to clarify.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Jesus Christ. How low can they go?
noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)The slander that Bernie was not a very early leader for African American civil rights got so outrageous that persons went into the archives of the University of Chicago and changed captions on Danny Lyons 1962 photos, claiming it was Bruce Rappaport standing in Bernies clothing leading the demonstration in the Ad Building. These newly discovered pictures, including close up photographs of the student activists show us exactly what Bernie was and what he remains.
This reminds me of the dirty tricks perpetrated by the Nixon campaign.
Jarqui
(10,496 posts)other candidate for president.
Both have/had brains. Both have/had experience and good roles in government. But both are/were kind of detached - less human as they lack warmth. And both lied their heads off.
Like Nixon, she'll lie about fairly petty stuff.
Having lived through Tricky Dick, I do not trust her at all. No way. Look at how many sleazy deceptions or lies we're been confronted with in this campaign? I seem to run into something every day now.
There's a darn good reason why 60% of Americans don't trust her. America found out the hard way with Nixon. Hopefully, we can avoid that this time around.
I called her Nixonian up thread and I remember that fucker, too.
There is no way I can vote for her ever, for anything. Certainly not POTUS
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)anAustralianobserver
(633 posts)Uncle Joe
(60,242 posts)Jarqui
(10,496 posts)Response to Jarqui (Original post)
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