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BlueStateBlue

(517 posts)
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 10:29 PM Oct 2012

My apolitical coworker's comments about the debate lifted my spirits today

My coworker commented to me this afternoon that after seeing the debate last night, she and her father decided that even though they have not voted since 1996, they have to vote this year because Romney is so scary. They'll be voting for Obama. For what it's worth, political discussion at my office is practically non-existent.

I don't think Romney "won" anything with undecided voters. I think he got played like a fiddle.

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My apolitical coworker's comments about the debate lifted my spirits today (Original Post) BlueStateBlue Oct 2012 OP
Agreed. Willard didn't 'win' anything. He came across as an arrogant bully without self-control. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #1
Interesting.. barnabas63 Oct 2012 #2
I think President Obama went in with a strategy last night BlueStateBlue Oct 2012 #11
There is a definite blowback starting.... barnabas63 Oct 2012 #14
Also made me think of Tom Cruise... Beartracks Oct 2012 #26
Yes, his energy level was fine before and after the debate. LiberalFighter Oct 2012 #20
The way he stepped on the moderator was pretty off-putting to me NCLefty Oct 2012 #3
I doubt Rmoney helped his gender gap much... barnabas63 Oct 2012 #7
I hear he lost the bird vote. lol n/t Beartracks Oct 2012 #25
+1. If he'd been that way only to Obama, you could maybe write it off as being "competitive". gkhouston Oct 2012 #10
Exactly, gkhouston.. have ya'll seen the Vid that DNC made Last NIght, Cha Oct 2012 #15
Yes. That was fast work. n/t gkhouston Oct 2012 #21
Great video, but it also shows how Lehrer was at a disadvantage Frustratedlady Oct 2012 #29
I know.. that was weirdly surreal Cha Oct 2012 #30
Thanks for reporting - but be sure they're registered and up to date on how to vote. There have... freshwest Oct 2012 #4
She assured me that they are both registered BlueStateBlue Oct 2012 #12
It may be too late to register. And if you feel comfortahle with it, tell them to check locations. freshwest Oct 2012 #18
Here in NJ, they can register up to 21 days before the election. I'll have forms for her in the am. BlueStateBlue Oct 2012 #19
Plus two in NJ! WTG! freshwest Oct 2012 #22
They may be able to get some information using canivote.org. gkhouston Oct 2012 #24
Tomorrow, tell her to make sure madaboutharry Oct 2012 #5
Make sure they get registered! Baitball Blogger Oct 2012 #6
Absolutely will do. Especially since she lives in a republican-held congressional district. n/t BlueStateBlue Oct 2012 #17
I agree with this. As much as I wanted to see Obama nail Romney, I think a lot of people BenzoDia Oct 2012 #8
To me, Mitt always seems phony as a $3 bill struggle4progress Oct 2012 #9
He's like the guy who has to sell that water purifier or used car or investment program. The Wielding Truth Oct 2012 #23
Great news! :) n/t Tx4obama Oct 2012 #13
Better slip them a couple of voter registration applications Stat Brother Buzz Oct 2012 #16
Did she say what exactly it was that Romney did that scared them? Just curious. Pirate Smile Oct 2012 #27
In his usual condescending way courseofhistory Oct 2012 #28
I'm thinking the no-drama style is coming into its day treestar Oct 2012 #31

Indpndnt

(2,391 posts)
1. Agreed. Willard didn't 'win' anything. He came across as an arrogant bully without self-control.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 10:33 PM
Oct 2012

Nobody wants that in a President.

barnabas63

(1,214 posts)
2. Interesting..
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 10:38 PM
Oct 2012

...I suspect that Romney will see a modest, possibly short-lived bounce from the debate. How do you think, though, he "got played like a fiddle?"

BlueStateBlue

(517 posts)
11. I think President Obama went in with a strategy last night
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:03 PM
Oct 2012

I think he decided to give Romney plenty of rope to hang himself. He stayed low key (admittedly a little too low key for my taste), and Romney took the bait and spewed lie after lie. Now the fact checking has kicked in and the overall message is that Romney's a liar. The good guys got tons of footage to use against them in ads, and plenty of ammo to nail him to the wall in the final debate.

The energy the president has shown on the campaign trail before and after the debate tells me that his subdued tone was no accident. He wasn't unprepared, that debate was a sacrifice fly.

barnabas63

(1,214 posts)
14. There is a definite blowback starting....
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:07 PM
Oct 2012

the Sesame Street issue & Mitt's "alpha-male" Mel Gibson performance turned off a lot of people

LiberalFighter

(50,928 posts)
20. Yes, his energy level was fine before and after the debate.
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 12:00 AM
Oct 2012

A person doesn't normally swing that fast from one level to another. Romney probably does though.

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
3. The way he stepped on the moderator was pretty off-putting to me
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 10:38 PM
Oct 2012

but I already had negative feelings toward him. I had wondered if independents/undecideds viewed it the way I did though. Good to hear

gkhouston

(21,642 posts)
10. +1. If he'd been that way only to Obama, you could maybe write it off as being "competitive".
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:02 PM
Oct 2012

Treating the moderator like shit? That's just an asshole.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
29. Great video, but it also shows how Lehrer was at a disadvantage
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 03:31 AM
Oct 2012

He is diminished by being below the debaters. Mitt is bad enough about stepping on people below his status, but this made it even easier.

Cha

(297,220 posts)
30. I know.. that was weirdly surreal
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 03:42 AM
Oct 2012

I wonder if there will be any changes in further debate positions for the moderators so someone like mitt romney won't use his high horse to trample them?

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
4. Thanks for reporting - but be sure they're registered and up to date on how to vote. There have...
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 10:38 PM
Oct 2012

Been many changes since 1996, requirements, time limits and polling places.

BlueStateBlue

(517 posts)
12. She assured me that they are both registered
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:06 PM
Oct 2012

But I will be sure to get 2 copies of the voter registration form onto her desk first thing tomorrow morning, just in case.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
18. It may be too late to register. And if you feel comfortahle with it, tell them to check locations.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:51 PM
Oct 2012

Of course I'm not in your area, but I saw a video here saying that registration in most states ends on October 7th. And we know there are prohlems...

Good story and thanks for keeping on it.

gkhouston

(21,642 posts)
24. They may be able to get some information using canivote.org.
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 12:25 AM
Oct 2012

I'll admit that I've already check my registration twice, even though I voted in this year's primaries and local elections.

BenzoDia

(1,010 posts)
8. I agree with this. As much as I wanted to see Obama nail Romney, I think a lot of people
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 10:45 PM
Oct 2012

were probably turned off by his overly aggressive performance.

Romney has a big empathy problem and his attitude last night didn't help that.

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
9. To me, Mitt always seems phony as a $3 bill
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 10:50 PM
Oct 2012

and after only a few minutes of the debate, I was wondering why anyone would ever vote for Mr Plastic Face

The Wielding Truth

(11,415 posts)
23. He's like the guy who has to sell that water purifier or used car or investment program.
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 12:16 AM
Oct 2012

Spilling out everything that he thinks you want to here and he knows it's bunk.

Brother Buzz

(36,431 posts)
16. Better slip them a couple of voter registration applications Stat
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:36 PM
Oct 2012

I'm pretty damn sure they have been dropped from the rolls

courseofhistory

(801 posts)
28. In his usual condescending way
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 01:30 AM
Oct 2012

he let Leher know he would chop Big Bird's head off also. I read a body language expert said if you turn the sound off on the debate and watch Romney's actions, he is behaving manically and too aggressively. I think many people felt that way. Obama couldn't respond because he kept repeating blatant lies. To his credit Obama did say that just 5 wks before the election he is changing his $5T tax cut prior statements. But it got lost in all the manic behavior of Romney.

This is also in line, I feel with his wife's concern for his mental health if he becomes president. I have a feeling he does some of this sort of behavior in private.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
31. I'm thinking the no-drama style is coming into its day
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 04:18 AM
Oct 2012

We've had a society that rewards people for demonstrating "fire in the belly" and seen what trouble they cause, and starting to look askance at that because it can be displayed for its own sake with no substance under it.

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