2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHoward Dean embarrassing himself on Joe..
what a slug. He's full-boat kissing Clinton's ass. How pathetic
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)Or some other such thoughtcrime.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)elias49
(4,259 posts)Dean was a very different man when he ran. Now he's on the gravy train. Screw him.
Getting mighty crowded under that bus you Bernie supporters keep throwing good liberals under. Pathetic.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)not everything think Bernie hung the moon. Don't forget to trash John Lewis while you're at it - he supports Hillary also.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)on MSM. It is very much a HRC's is the only one to be acknowledged as running for President. And that is not the case.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Dean is a doctor, he made big bucks before politics, do you know who else makes big bucks? Bernie Sanders makes big bucks as a member of congress, been there for twenty five years so how does his big bucks settle with you?
elias49
(4,259 posts)Dean's a sell-out.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Sanders makes big bucks, he is not "one of us".
frylock
(34,825 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)He supports Clinton. That comes as no surprise. I like Dean, because I think he's pretty honest. He's not a liberal on economic issues and he never was. He certainly wasn't as governor. (His fights with the more liberal legislature were epic).
But Dean is an honorable guy and trashing him because he supports Hillary is bullshit. And I'd be surprised if he trashed bernie.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Wrong and caught in a lie
DanTex
(20,709 posts)I like the guy too, but in 2004, he was sort of being seen (by some) like Bernie is now, and he was no Bernie.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)as if Bernie can't. There is never anyone on their set who supports the intelligence and strength of Bernie Sanders. I could not believe how they ganged up on Bernie this morning by acting like he did not exist and she is the only one with experience. Bull! They have been told to start attacking with much more gusto. Did you see the show this morning? It was disgusting. Acting like Bernie was nothing a nobody........
cali
(114,904 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)Now they're talking about her trust worthyness and how damn loud she is and how it is not natural. Saying HIllary is fighting for people like herself.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Rich, white, and powerful.
onecaliberal
(33,013 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)And frankly, I think that complaining about the MSM, yet tuning into it, is a bit incongruous.
elias49
(4,259 posts)Don't you? Many go so far as to crow that they've 'cut the cord', which is admirable except that then you live your dream, not reality.
Dean just said that if Hilary was a man, no-one would be complaining about her overly robust delivery on TV...the shouting.
'He supports Clinton. So what'. Well I used to respect the man. OK?
cali
(114,904 posts)I cut the cord long ago.
elias49
(4,259 posts)if you don't interact with it.
I read, too. Good on you.
cali
(114,904 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)It definitely was to convince people that HRC is the choice. And that Bernie is nothing to even discuss.
Yupy
(154 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)When he was proven wrong about her taking at least 500K from college speaking fees. And she has the gallery to talk about the high cost of college.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)BigGLiberal
(102 posts)He is in good company though with John Lewis and others.
elias49
(4,259 posts)Some here are still fond of him because...IDK.
bigtree
(86,021 posts)...like all but two of the congressional progressive caucus Bernie founded now supporting Hillary.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)elias49
(4,259 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Traitors to the Cause. They deserve what they get...
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)most of the time.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)They constantly get only Clinton supporters on their show. They are working for the Corporate media because the media does not want Bernie as President.
I am sick and tired of the Bernie is not smart enough, can't make Presidential decisions (yes he can). He is extremely intelligent! They ignore that he has spent decades in public office more than Hillary. Being first lady of AR and the WH does not count for experience in public office. And public office Bernie beats her hands down.
Bernie is smart enough, experienced enough, is for the people not the pundits of the elite establishment and that is what makes him the best choice for President. Even the Hillary supporters here act like Bernie is not experienced or smart enough to be President in their comments.
It is so disgusting to watch the attacks from the MSM. So disgusting!
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)to matter in his bid for the presidency.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Sanders showed his homegrown organization was essentially as good as Clinton's well-oiled, well-practiced, micro-targeted, extremely well-funded one. She's had practice, she's been there before, and knew how Iowa works, and still was barely able to squeeze out a few more votes than he was.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)running. Just as smart!
stonecutter357
(12,699 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)stonecutter357
(12,699 posts)elias49
(4,259 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)the HRC mud (not meaning HRC is mud just his constant Bernie is not electable) in Bernie's face constantly. No he is a shill for the corporate elites.
stonecutter357
(12,699 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)Her latest is I have the most experience I can do the job. So does Bernie and so can Bernie! She is now using Bernie's words...I'm a Progressive (yet months ago I'm a Moderate) I want Universal Healthcare (yet last week it can't be done). It is getting really unbelievable now.
Vinca
(50,334 posts)Wrong. It took about 10 seconds to pull up proof of a couple of speeches in excess of $200,000 per speech. Meanwhile, students are going into debt for half that amount and looking at a lifetime of paying it back. That's why younger voters aren't big on her.
elias49
(4,259 posts)Maybe facts don't matter so much when you're on the Hillary juggernaut.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)expect to be fact checked and called out, lol
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Of course, so are all of the people who complain that he's not 'revolutionary' in the exact same way they want him to be.
According to Sanders, this morning (for anyone that missed his part) his 'revolution' is a political one, about getting Americans re-engaged in politics again, active again. Not about economics, but about re-engagement, and thus control being taken back by all Americans, not just the few.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,990 posts)...people they have on that show. He counters some of the Hillary hate. They did have a wonderful interview with Bernie, today! Joe and Mika were blathering in admiration - I know they think Bernie is a loser, but maybe they'll be surprised in November!
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Its truly sickening that so many Bernie people are now trashing him just because he supports Hillary Clinton.
You mudslingers are dead wrong.
elias49
(4,259 posts)But $$$$$