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I have many, many grievances against Hillary VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #1
I have a right to my opinion CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #9
Sorry, much as I admire you, I just can't get past cali Feb 2016 #2
I stopped there as well. That's fucking bullshit. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #6
Stand in my shoes. She did this to my state and our process CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #11
They don't care, CoffeeCat. They support her dirty tricks and win-at-all-costs lust. nt ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2016 #13
iowa has been having a caucus for decades JI7 Feb 2016 #28
You deserve a good vent artislife Feb 2016 #29
"I am appalled and sickened by Hillary Clinton." I am, too, CoffeeCat. Thank you for... ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2016 #3
no words demwing Feb 2016 #4
"She is the worst human on the planet."!?!?!? You lost me on that hyperbolic bullshit. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #5
I will not apologize for being disgusted and angry!!!! CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #22
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Feb 2016 #7
Wow, sore loser. n/t seaglass Feb 2016 #8
It's not about who won or lost. CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #27
All that. All the dirty tricks and Bernie still sties her. NowSam Feb 2016 #10
So you are shameful also comparing Hillary to GWB. Welcome to DU?? riversedge Feb 2016 #15
She voted with the Neocons, did she not? nt ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2016 #18
Your oP is a RW hit piece. Shame of you. You do Democrats no good hiting on a riversedge Feb 2016 #12
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"She is the worst human on the planet." alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #14
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Personal attack on another DUer. nt ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2016 #20
I said ANYONE. JTFrog Feb 2016 #25
Worst human on the planet! Worst! On the planet! DanTex Feb 2016 #19
I can't say what I would like to say here so I will just leave this here Samantha Feb 2016 #21
I hate the caucus and as I get older they get harder. I know it's hard to see Autumn Feb 2016 #23
this is one of those things that say more about you than anything else JI7 Feb 2016 #24
I understand why you feel the way you do, being right there in the middle of it. Avalux Feb 2016 #26

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
1. I have many, many grievances against Hillary
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:59 AM
Feb 2016

But I can't go as far as to say "worst person in the world". That can be saved for the current clown car of republicans. Now I won't vote for her. If she gets nominated, this account will fall into disuse. But I'd save the outright hyperbolic attacks-- she's not the worst. She's just a really, really bad choice.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
9. I have a right to my opinion
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:02 PM
Feb 2016

It's not hyperbole.

I'd never vote for any of the Republicans. They are dysfunctional (at best) and dangerous (at worst).

But you know what? None of them cheated. None of them came into our state, as guests--and decided that it was ok to cheat in a caucus.

What does that say about Hillary Clinton?

What is this doing to our party?

Instead of being sooooooo offended by my words, why don't you take a look at what she did.

Maybe if it happened in your state, to your process--and to your friends and relatives--you might look at it differently.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
11. Stand in my shoes. She did this to my state and our process
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:06 PM
Feb 2016

And what do you want to bet that all of this is used to denigrate and criticize our process?

I can't stand her.

I think I'm entitled to a few emotions and a few emotional statements.

I really don't want the admiration of anyone. When I posted about Iowa, it was about helping others understand what was really happening in Iowa. I am glad that so many appreciated it. However, I am doing now what I have always done--speaking from the heart and telling it like it is.

Yes, maybe she's not the worst human on the planet. But I am entitled to say whatever I want about her because of what she did in my backyard. Do you know the phone calls I'm getting from friends across the state in other precincts.

Wait until she comes to your state and causes chaos.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
29. You deserve a good vent
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:14 PM
Feb 2016

We have followed your steps all along the way and if you say what happened was out of order, I believe it. I didn't really think it was that widespread, but it sounds pretty bad.

Big cyber hug to you and your fellow Iowans.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
3. "I am appalled and sickened by Hillary Clinton." I am, too, CoffeeCat. Thank you for...
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:59 AM
Feb 2016

...fighting so hard. Thank you.

I will be telling everyone I know and then some about Hillary Clinton.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
22. I will not apologize for being disgusted and angry!!!!
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:11 PM
Feb 2016

You watch your entire process turned into a tornado of chaos. A joke. All because one person decided to cheat.

You are so offended by me venting some emotions. Do you have the same outrage for HER actions????

To me, at this moment---she is "the worst human on the planet."

No one else but Hillary came into my state and caused such destruction.

I tell you what. You work harder than hell to help Bernie win. You walk miles canvassing until your feet hurt. You make phone calls and try to do all of the right things to win fair and square. And you host people in your home--and watch them return to your home at 10:00 at night and fall into bed exhausted from canvassing. You watch people in your state working so hard and playing by the rules--and trying to win fair and square.

Then, you watch the other candidate come into your state and create untold, unprecedented destruction that hurts your party, your state, and the voters who were cheated.

You'd have some emotions too!

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
27. It's not about who won or lost.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:12 PM
Feb 2016

The outcome is not important, in my opinion.

If Bernie had won, I would have the same opinion.

It's not about the final outcome, for me.

It's the cheating that she engaged in. It's the widespread, intentional cheating.

It's sick, sick, sick.

How can you even be proud of this win? It's a joke.

NowSam

(1,252 posts)
10. All that. All the dirty tricks and Bernie still sties her.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:04 PM
Feb 2016

CoffeeCat, You have said what so many feel. HRC=GWB. Really. That bad.

riversedge

(70,464 posts)
15. So you are shameful also comparing Hillary to GWB. Welcome to DU??
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:08 PM
Feb 2016

I will have to think about that one.

riversedge

(70,464 posts)
12. Your oP is a RW hit piece. Shame of you. You do Democrats no good hiting on a
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:06 PM
Feb 2016

Presidential Dem. candidate with vile words. Take is down before you further embarrass yourself.

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Samantha

(9,314 posts)
21. I can't say what I would like to say here so I will just leave this here
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:10 PM
Feb 2016

If this is how she conducts herself in a simple caucus election, how do you think she will conduct herself should she be sitting in the Oval House. You are correct. We have to win this nomination and stop her.

I am so sorry you had to experience all these dirty tricks after the hard work you put into this effort. It is not fair to the Sanders' campaign, its wonderful team of volunteers or the people who support him. Evidently, "fair" is not a consideration in this election.

Write a piece about your experiences last night, it will be very therapeutic for you. Keep it visible throughout the election so others will know what they are dealing with when their primaries occur. We have to try to win by big margins to overcome the "win at all costs" mentality.

I am so sorry, CoffeeCat.

Sam

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
23. I hate the caucus and as I get older they get harder. I know it's hard to see
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:11 PM
Feb 2016

people like Andy McGuire doing the wrong thing when you have worked so hard to get people out there to caucus. Iowans and you especially did a remarkable job. No one can take that away and this will make Bernie's wins all the better

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
26. I understand why you feel the way you do, being right there in the middle of it.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:12 PM
Feb 2016

I'm going to give you a pass on the "worst human on the planet" comment because at this moment, that's what she is to you. I'd like to thank you again for all of your hard work and dedication, and I'd like to reiterate what another DUer said in this thread - even with all of her money, infrastructure and dirty tricks, she didn't get what she wanted - to neutralize Bernie.

I feel great this morning and I'm excited to see where things go from here. Hillary is no longer inevitable and as she scrambles to redefine herself yet again, nothing she can do will be enough to stop Bernie's momentum.

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