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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 11:03 PM Jan 2016

Bernie Sanders' Master Stroke In Asking for SANCTIONED Debates!

Bernie Sander’s is not allowing himself to be maneuvered by Clinton or NBC into a pre-New Hampshire debate. Instead he is using their strategy to prevent them from ‘cornering’ him to do what they want, when they want.

This is what he said:

While the DNC is unlikely to exclude all three candidates from future debates, Sanders added that he does not want to commit to an ad hoc schedule of debates set by networks.

“As I have said from day one I want to see debates. I love debates. I think it’s good for the Democratic Party, I think it’s good for the people of this country, but you’ve got to do it in a rational way, you just can’t do it because some network says this and some network says that,” Sanders said. “I would hope that in the very short future we can develop a series of debates, and I think ... Illinois, Ohio, California, New York state are some of the states we might want to be looking at.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-01-27/ahead-of-white-house-meeting-sanders-says-obama-is-not-taking-sides


I TAKE MY HAT OFF TO HIM FOR HIS ELEGANT SIDESTEPPING OUT OF THEIR TRAP, with his response saying in effect: ‘yeah, let’s do more debates, but let’s plan them, and not do them as an ambush attempt.’ Go Bernie! What this means is that Sanders is not allowing the Clinton machine and their surrogates, (read MSNBC) to push him around by setting up times and agendas favorable to Clinton. By agreeing to go to this debate, he would set a precedent, that at any point that the Clinton machine wanted to invoke a debate to help her, she could recruit her allies in the MSM to set one up.

MSNBC is going full bore to push Sanders into the Clinton debate….they are doing nothing more than providing full campaign ads for Hillary. It is 24/7 Hillary Time. Watch the videos and you will see what I mean. If you have any doubt that MSNBC is shilling for Hillary, take a look at this interview by Andrea Mitchell today with Brian Fallon, Hillary’s Press Secretary. Be clear: MSNBC did not provide air time for a Sander’s representative, or ANYONE with an opposing position to the Hillary staff person and he was barely challenged by Andrea. She just let him continue the memes which were negative about Sanders, which the campaign is hoping that some will stick.


Watch this Andrea Mitchell Report with Hillary spokesman Brian 'BoyBot' Fallon......nothing but a lying RAT!

The essential points of the interview by Andrea Mitchell with Fallon are:

1. Sanders has not fared well in the spotlight; if you look at the tone he has been taking; quite disturbing, seen a pattern of Senator Sanders saying one thing and doing another; that he would shun the support of a SuperPac, now has one; said he wouldn’t attack Clinton, but now he has said that she was like Dick Cheney and third thing this debate next week, Sen Sanders said he would wanted to debate more, now he is not.

2. Today a new york times report said he bragging about running a negative ad; and now Sanders is weighing running a negative running the same kind of ad as Karl Rove did,

3. That Sanders was having a meeting to decide whether to take the core persona that Sen Sanders has cultivated of the first few months of the campaign and crumpling it in into a ball an throwing it into the trash… I hope he rejects it Andrea…. they, his advisors, are trying to turn Sanders into someone less Simon and Garfunkel and more Karl Rover and it is unfortunate…..

4. Fallon repeated the meme of comparing Sanders to Karl Rove instead of Simon and Garfunkel

Also follow this interview on Andrea Mitchell with none other than Tweety (Chris Matthews):

WATCH VIDEO:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/01/27/clinton_spokesman_sanders_advisors_turning_him_into_someone_who_is_less_simon_garfunkel_and_more_karl_rove.html



UPDATE:

Just to be crystal clear in the midst of all this maneuvering, DWS issued the following, saying that the DNC WOULD NOT SANCTION THE PRE NEW HAMPSHIRE DEBATE:

The Democratic National Committee says it is unlikely to sanction additional debates before the New Hampshire primary, a decision that could strike a blow to MSNBC and the New Hampshire Union Leader as they seek to host an event next week.

"We have no plans to sanction any further debates before the upcoming First in the Nation caucuses and primary, but will reconvene with our campaigns after those two contests to review our schedule," DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz said in a statement.

"We have consistently worked with our campaigns to ensure a schedule that is robust and that allows them to engage with voters in a variety of ways, whether through debates, forums, town halls, but also leaving them the flexibility to attend county fairs and living room conversations in states like Iowa and New Hampshire where direct voter contact matters so much."

DNC throws cold water on unsanctioned New Hampshire debate

http://g.thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/dem-primaries/267120-dnc-will-not-sanction-additional-debates



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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/01/27/1476004/-Bernie-s-Master-Stroke-in-asking-for-SANCTIONED-debates
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Bernie Sanders' Master Stroke In Asking for SANCTIONED Debates! (Original Post) Segami Jan 2016 OP
Nice work Segami, thanks so much for Karma13612 Jan 2016 #1
Unbelievable it never occured to them that Bernie would easily call their bluff CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #2
They are. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2016 #3
We're still dealing with the concept of "inevitability". They haven't gotten the email. libdem4life Jan 2016 #4
He did it when the DNC cut off his access to voters lists. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #5
Presidential material. Karma13612 Jan 2016 #6
Yeah, exactly! I'd forgotten how quickly they buckled when the Sanders campaign filed that lawsuit.. frylock Jan 2016 #12
This is the kind of negotiator I want on my side!!!!!! highprincipleswork Jan 2016 #7
EXACTLY my thought!!!! nt slipslidingaway Jan 2016 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jan 2016 #9
If Bernie snooped into the military's equipment suppliers, Segami Jan 2016 #10
But trillion dollar F-35 boondoggles are safe under Sanders. SunSeeker Jan 2016 #16
LOL....keep trying... Segami Jan 2016 #19
Very elegant! zentrum Jan 2016 #11
They are just putting the screws to these idiots! frylock Jan 2016 #13
They can always change it to another town hall forum hedda_foil Jan 2016 #14
Sanders to Maddow on 1-19-16: "If the other candidates are in, you count me in." SunSeeker Jan 2016 #15
baloney. he said the beginning restorefreedom Jan 2016 #20
He didn't give that condition when Rachel asked him. nt SunSeeker Jan 2016 #21
he didn't have to. restorefreedom Jan 2016 #22
Bernie's flip flop has not gone unnoticed. SunSeeker Jan 2016 #23
the only one flip flopping is hillary restorefreedom Jan 2016 #26
This 2pooped2pop Jan 2016 #27
Andrea Mitchell: that's close to the best superdistortion yet! Voice for Peace Jan 2016 #17
He's totally messing with Hillary's DNC Prism Jan 2016 #18
First time there hasn't been a debate in New Hampshire before the primary Matariki Jan 2016 #24
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #25

Karma13612

(4,555 posts)
1. Nice work Segami, thanks so much for
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 11:10 PM
Jan 2016

this summary of the debate-debate.

I will be curious what happens in the coming days.

Things are certainly heating up!

CharlotteVale

(2,717 posts)
2. Unbelievable it never occured to them that Bernie would easily call their bluff
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 11:11 PM
Jan 2016

this way when he's been calling for more sanctioned debates all along. Comical too. Camp Weathervane must be spinning like a top.


 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
5. He did it when the DNC cut off his access to voters lists.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 11:25 PM
Jan 2016

Pushing this guy is clearly a mistake. It looks like he is 2-0 in this type of situation (so far).



Karma13612

(4,555 posts)
6. Presidential material.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 11:42 PM
Jan 2016

Bernie will not be a pushover.

This whole primary season is the job interview.

So far, he is acing it.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
12. Yeah, exactly! I'd forgotten how quickly they buckled when the Sanders campaign filed that lawsuit..
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 01:48 AM
Jan 2016

is it still pending?

Response to highprincipleswork (Reply #7)

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
10. If Bernie snooped into the military's equipment suppliers,
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 01:18 AM
Jan 2016

rest assured, the days of spending $800 for a single hammer will go the way of the Dodo bird........


 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
19. LOL....keep trying...
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 02:12 AM
Jan 2016


Integrity is not a word associated with Hillary......its just that simple.


SunSeeker

(51,814 posts)
15. Sanders to Maddow on 1-19-16: "If the other candidates are in, you count me in."
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 01:58 AM
Jan 2016
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/watch/one-more-democratic-primary-debate-maybe-609555011560

Well, the other candidates are in, but now he insists he's not in until everyone meets his conditions, including that the DNC have three additional, late season (as late as May) debates set. That is not "elegant side stepping." That is Sanders going back on his word to Rachel.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
20. baloney. he said the beginning
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 02:13 AM
Jan 2016

he wanted more SANCTIONED debates. this is just more maneuvering by a campaign in freefall and he is calling them on their bullshit. its about time someone did.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
22. he didn't have to.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 02:21 AM
Jan 2016

it has been his position all along. so if you think he will go back on his word, you must have him confused with another candidate

SunSeeker

(51,814 posts)
23. Bernie's flip flop has not gone unnoticed.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 02:27 AM
Jan 2016
The unsanctioned debate will be moderated by Meet the Press host Chuck Todd and MSNBC anchor Rachel Maddow, and will also include questions from local reporters, the Union Leader announced. Two of the party's three candidates have already announced they would be participating; Hillary Clinton and Martin O'Malley. Despite initially complaining of the limited debate schedule, Bernie Sanders's campaign has said he will not be participating.


https://uk.news.yahoo.com/us-election-2016-clinton-omalley-034850592.html

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
26. the only one flip flopping is hillary
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 02:31 AM
Jan 2016

who initially only wanted four debates, although she likely preferred none at all.

if you have an issue with the debate schedule, an email to dws would be in order. after all,she rigged all of this for hillary to begin with.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
17. Andrea Mitchell: that's close to the best superdistortion yet!
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 02:10 AM
Jan 2016

"Oooooh i'd like t'ringyerprettylittlechickenneck"

Ha ha just kidding thatsajoke somebodyelsesaidit

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
18. He's totally messing with Hillary's DNC
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 02:11 AM
Jan 2016

It's wonderful. You can tell he's just as sick of their shit as we are. Let them wail insincerely. It just underscores how fake the entire exercise is.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
24. First time there hasn't been a debate in New Hampshire before the primary
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 02:29 AM
Jan 2016

in over 30 years. Why is Wasserman Schultz being such a stubborn asshat?

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