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Hmmm...on REAL CLEAR POLITICS' own map, OHIO is no longer in play...Obama/Biden has 265 EV (Original Post) brooklynite Sep 2012 OP
It's interesting they can call some states a tossup, groundloop Sep 2012 #1
I think a 5 point lead is their threshold for becoming a leaner. DCBob Sep 2012 #3
Nice. That must have just happened today.. DCBob Sep 2012 #2
I am not a fan of RCP TexasCPA Sep 2012 #4
It means that Obama needs to take only one of these states... Stuart G Sep 2012 #5
Real Clear Politics moves OHIO into Obama's column TroyD Sep 2012 #6
Indiana only leans Rmoney? Woohoo!! Indiana's going Obama again LiberalFighter Sep 2012 #7
'ABC has shifted Ohio from "tossup" to "lean Dem" in our presidential race ratings' TroyD Sep 2012 #8
ABC has Obama with only 201 electoral votes... JaneQPublic Sep 2012 #16
And in their 'no tossups' map, every single tossup goes to Obama muriel_volestrangler Sep 2012 #9
Ohio is either a likely dem or solid dem, but it is stronger than lean. JRLeft Sep 2012 #10
Anybody know which of NC VA FL likely to be called first? dmallind Sep 2012 #11
Obama has the biggest lead in VA. JaneQPublic Sep 2012 #12
FL will be called last... brooklynite Sep 2012 #13
I think VA is going to be called first because NC and FL will be close. Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2012 #15
She's clearing her throat and ready to go on, Mittens... Adenoid_Hynkel Sep 2012 #14
Things are looking better LakeErieLiberal Sep 2012 #17
Ohio and Virginia are in the Eastern Time Zone so if they drop for Obama early it is virtually yellowcanine Sep 2012 #18

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
1. It's interesting they can call some states a tossup,
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 08:44 AM
Sep 2012

yet President Obama has been ahead in every single poll, including the R leaning polls, for the past 2, 3, or 4 weeks.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
3. I think a 5 point lead is their threshold for becoming a leaner.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 08:47 AM
Sep 2012

That's a big lead in some states. Seems to me it should be something like 3 or 4%.

TexasCPA

(527 posts)
4. I am not a fan of RCP
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 09:48 AM
Sep 2012

but the media tends to use them as a source.

They use 5% as the cutoff of toss up to leans.

Stuart G

(38,427 posts)
5. It means that Obama needs to take only one of these states...
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 10:00 AM
Sep 2012

Toss Up (82) according to REal Clear Politics.....Obama..265



Colorado (9)



Florida (29)



Iowa (6)



Nevada (6)






North Carolina (15)



Virginia (13)

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TroyD

(4,551 posts)
6. Real Clear Politics moves OHIO into Obama's column
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 10:07 AM
Sep 2012

That is indeed a huge development on THAT site. They've had OHIO as a Toss-Up all year. Other sites like Huff Po and some of the others have often had Ohio in Obama's column, but never RCP.

LiberalFighter

(50,928 posts)
7. Indiana only leans Rmoney? Woohoo!! Indiana's going Obama again
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 10:44 AM
Sep 2012

Let's play some mind games with the opposition on this.

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
16. ABC has Obama with only 201 electoral votes...
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 02:27 PM
Sep 2012

...as opposed to RCP's new total of 265 for Obama.

ABC still has WI as tossup, which is totally unreasonable, in light of recent polling (by pollsters other than ABC's), and they have NC as leaning GOP rather than a tossup.

dmallind

(10,437 posts)
11. Anybody know which of NC VA FL likely to be called first?
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 01:08 PM
Sep 2012

Obviously it depends on closeness but assuming, as we probably can, that all 3 are within a few points either way, which is likely to deliver results first?

While mathematically Romney is still in the race losing any of them, practically speaking my hardly out-on-a-limb take is that once I see any of them called blue it's time to go home smiling (I'll be at the bar when results start coming in).

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
12. Obama has the biggest lead in VA.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 02:10 PM
Sep 2012

His leads in the three states you mentioned, according to RCP averages, are as follows:

VA = 4.5

FL = 3.1

NC = 1.0


So, if 5.0 points is the lead RCP requires to move a state out of toss-up status, then VA is getting pretty darn close.

brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
13. FL will be called last...
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 02:14 PM
Sep 2012

...it stretches into Central Time Zone, and after the 2000 fiasco (the calling, not the counting) they'll hold off to be safe.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
15. I think VA is going to be called first because NC and FL will be close.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 02:22 PM
Sep 2012

I think Obama will win VA handily. He'll have a tougher time in NC and FL with the voter suppression. His leads are also not as healthy in those states.

LakeErieLiberal

(37 posts)
17. Things are looking better
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 02:28 PM
Sep 2012

But we must stay committed and use this polling evidence that people still considering Romney are not mainstream and get even more voters into the Obama camp. People need to know that the Democratic Party's policies put a floor under the recession that the Republican's caused and that they're the one's who will keep making things better as we go forward.

Nobody but the 1% trying to buy this election has any business voting for this republican party so we've got to keep fighting even though things look good.

This brand of Republicans will do anything to try to obtain power...even if it means intentionally attempting to tank the economy as we have seen.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
18. Ohio and Virginia are in the Eastern Time Zone so if they drop for Obama early it is virtually
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 03:36 PM
Sep 2012

lights out for Mitt on election night. At that point NC and Florida would be icing on the cake.

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