2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy Clinton came out on top in town hall
"If it was easy, there wouldn't be any contest," she told a young woman in the course of explaining why so many Republicans seem bent on stopping her at all costs. "I've been on the front lines of change and progress since I was your age."
Clinton even embraced the fact she draws attacks from right-wingers. "They throw all this stuff at me. And I'm still standing," she said, comparing the civility of the night's discussion with the Republican slugfest. "The other side is not talking issues, it's talking insults," she said.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/26/opinions/democratic-town-hall-reaction-louis/index.html
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)mcar
(42,366 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)To paraphrase Upton Sinclair never try to convince somebody of something their whole world hinges on not believing.
mcar
(42,366 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)"Never try to get someone to believe something his or her job depends on not believing."
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)asuhornets
(2,405 posts)oasis
(49,398 posts)asuhornets
(2,405 posts)oasis
(49,398 posts)Please see post #34
asuhornets
(2,405 posts)oasis
(49,398 posts)One can only wonder why.
asuhornets
(2,405 posts)islandmkl
(5,275 posts)The New England Patriots won the AFC Championship Sunday, though being outscored by the Denver Broncos...just an opinion, of course...
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)In a unrelated but similar situation, Nate Silver who is predicting a Clinton victory in Iowa predicted Denver would play in the Super Bowl, before the season even started... just a fact, of course...
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2015-nfl-predictions/
#dsb@allidoiswin
islandmkl
(5,275 posts)of course, as in all 'predicting', especially something as long-range as pre-season sports prognostications...
it's all a guess...and if it works out...then the outcome becomes 'corrrect'...the guess was only a fact as far as being 'the guess'...
wonder if Nate took any action in Vegas in August...could have made out...
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)His MLB and NBA predictions are pretty good, too...
I can give specific examples where the "old hands" said he was crazy and he turned out to be right.
They aren't guesses in the true sense of the word. He builds model that take into consideration the performance of the players, the teams, and the schedule.
islandmkl
(5,275 posts)the bullet dodged Nate...
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)He is clearly past his expiration date though...
I forgot what team it was but there was a MLB team coming off a World Series championship and Nate's model predicted they would 74 games ? the next year and the "old hands" laughed at him. Well, they won 74 games.
I am a huge Miami Heat fan. Nate's model showed the 012-013 Spurs and the Heat were so closely matched it was nearly impossible to pick a winner and that's how the championship series played out.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)Shit!
ismnotwasm
(41,998 posts)I enjoy the town halls better than the debates to tell you the truth
Larkspur
(12,804 posts)In 2008 she started at third base and watched Obama, who had to start at the begining, pass her and defeat her.
This time, she started between third base and home plate and is on the verge of being lapped by a year old Jewish white guy, who had to start from the dugout.
Don't underestimate her ability to pull defeat from the jaws of victory.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)-Larkspur
What does a candidate's age and religion have to do with anything?
Thank you in advance.
Respectfully,
DSB
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Erm, no.
That "front lines" thing sounds good, but is flatly contradicted by the fact that just 12 years ago she was gving authoritative speeches to the senate about "the sacred foundation of marriage is between a man and a woman"
It all always boils down to some variation of "vote for Hillary because she's Hillary"
Because obviously, Hillary cannot run on the issues.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)her earlier material was way better.
hueymahl
(2,507 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Debates are her bag and she's a whiz-bang preparer who loves to strategize and that's why she's aced all four or at least the 3 that I watched. She's great with quick answers and knocking the stuffing out of her opponents. Forums leave her too much time to ad lib and go off-script though she stayed focused last night.
Personally I thought the whole thing was designed to give Bernie a leg up as he went first and didn't have to worry about getting flattened by Hillary. And the questions were pretty lightweight. And he did really well. But I'm happy to concede that Hillary took home another trophy!
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)She was terrible.
murielm99
(30,754 posts)And Clinton is not the one calling for more debates. She doesn't need them.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Hillary is way behind in New Hampshire and roughly tied in Iowa and suddenly a Town Hall pops up. Then she spends half an hour yelling at the audience and avoiding questions. By the end of the next business day we have a non-sanctioned debate scheduled and Hillary has already agreed to do it so long as the other candidates do. It was even suggested that the DNC would sanction it.
The pattern is clear.
quickesst
(6,280 posts). "Then she spends half an hour yelling at the audience and avoiding questions."
I'm really glad I don't have your ears because I'm afraid that someone might offer me a compliment, but the ears would interpret it as a nasty insult, and I'd probably slap an innocent person.
MauriceLawrence96
(48 posts)how much experience she has, and how excited she is to be first female President.
Sen. Sanders talked about specific problems and his solutions. He didn't talk about himself, he talked about how to make America better for 99% of Americans.
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ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)I am sure she is brave. Just like you are. My apologies
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I am sure she is brave. Just like you are. My apologies
I am a he and not a she but there in nothing wrong with being the latter, am I right?
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)-Duckhunter935
I am a he and not a she but there in nothing wrong with being the latter, am I right?
-DemocratSinceBirth
-Duckhunter935
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)and suggest the "nope" was in reference to the question "nothing wrong with being the latter" as opposed to the question "am i right"
the wording of the question could lead to either a yes or no answer, both of which could be meant as a positive
maybe, ya know?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)oasis
(49,398 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)And here I thought I watched her show last night. I guess I must have been watching an "I Love Lucy" rerun!
ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)draa
(975 posts)She's been getting her ass handed to her over the past week or so.
Iggy Knorr
(247 posts)while others wanted to go faster
RichVRichV
(885 posts)Where did she start, +75 when Bernie first entered? It's all been down hill since. Wasn't she up 25 a month ago?
I'm sure the next popup town hall/debate/DNC strategy is going to stop the bleeding and turn it all around!
Fearless
(18,421 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Fearless
(18,421 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Fearless
(18,421 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)MeNMyVolt
(1,095 posts)Clinton and O'Malley did rather well.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)SheilaT
(23,156 posts)Wasn't she forty points ahead a few months ago?
Wow.
merrily
(45,251 posts)MeNMyVolt
(1,095 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)who do they think they are fooling?
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)and the wanna be's.
For the rest of us, she means more hard times ahead.
Iggy Knorr
(247 posts)HRC came in first because reasons!
jfern
(5,204 posts)supporting network that says she won.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,370 posts)that much. CNN does love a horse race though.
This Op-Ed was written by Errol Louis and reflects his opinion, not that of CNN. This is Errol Louis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Errol_Louis